Is this clinical experience? (Helping a person with a disability with ADLs [paid position])?

[RespectTheChemistry]

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I'm sure this has been asked before but I'm no good with SDN's search function and couldn't find what I was looking for.

I still have my CNA certification active with my state's healthcare worker registry, although I haven't done long-term care work in quite some time. I was thinking of applying for positions helping people with disabilities with ADLs (i.e. what a CNA does - showering, dressing, etc.) for a couple hours a day. I would get paid. This would occur in people's own homes.

Can I list this as clinical experience?

Thank you!

 

[Goro]

That's a client, not a patient

 

[RespectTheChemistry]

That's a client, not a patient

Thank you, Goro!

 

[Egret_Farmer]

That's a client, not a patient

Are there any resources out there for people trying to distinguish the two? Maybe this sounds like a facetious question, but I have a similar position as RespecttheChemistry and work mostly with older adults that have dementia/other pathologies relating to age, doing perineal care/helping with other ADLs. Does it have to do with caregivers not helping with a specific diagnosis like workers at a hospital would?

 

[Goro]

Are there any resources out there for people trying to distinguish the two? Maybe this sounds like a facetious question, but I have a similar position as RespecttheChemistry and work mostly with older adults that have dementia/other pathologies relating to age, doing perineal care/helping with other ADLs. Does it have to do with caregivers not helping with a specific diagnosis like workers at a hospital would?

Working with a population >1 and outside their home would be more in line with patients. I feel that being a caregiver is not patient contact experience, although still admirable when it's NOT done for a relative (as you're supposed to take care of your relatives).

 

[Dantes]

I feel like it should still count even though it's not a traditional setting. Home care is a thing for nursing, PT etc. and can be part of a patient's treatment. Sounds like these people have disabilities (and thus are patients with certain diagnoses and not a normal population) and you're directly helping them with their care in a hands-on manner.

 

[Egret_Farmer]

Working with a population >1 and outside their home would be more in line with patients. I feel that being a caregiver is not patient contact experience, although still admirable when it's NOT done for a relative (as you're supposed to take care of your relatives).

I’m sure you’ve been asked about this dozens of times, but I thought caregiving would be passable as clinical experience mostly because of this AAMC article. The article specifies an ill family member, but now that I look at it, it also talks about things like scheduling appointments and obtaining medicine, which would still have more to do with the hospital than just assisting with ADLs at the person’s home (although both would probably be required to take care of the family member). Is it the contact with the hospital that makes the AAMC “caretaking” clinical experience?

At any rate, I still plan to do scribing or somesuch other hospital/clinic activity. It’s just that I was hoping the stuff I’m doing might suffice for the “patient” care part, since getting an actual CNA certification and doing a little more than what I’ve been doing now—but just at a hospital—might be too monotonous for me. I’m other words, I’d like to know if OP’s job + scribing/general shadowing or hospital exposure would be adequate.