is using a testbank cheating?

[170]

my professor said "last semester one of my students told me they found one of my test online, i thought that was interesting" .... i was in that class last semester and I'm taking him again for another class...

Funny thing is, i found a test bank for my current textbook (made by the publisher) and was thinking if he used one for my other class, maybe he'll use it for this class as well?

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[30Percent]

Would someone on the internet telling its cheating, stop you from using it?

 

[170]

Would someone on the internet telling its cheating, stop you from using it?

i don't think its cheating, because i have been using "study guide for students" optional supplement text from the publisher that i bought at the bookstore fore 60$, to test myself..... and the questions are very similar..

 

[Notecard]

i don't think its cheating, because i have been using "study guide for students" optional supplement text from the publisher that i bought at the bookstore fore 60$, to test myself..... and the questions are very similar..

How did you manage to connect study guides made by the publisher and your teacher's old tests? They're completely unrelated.

If your teacher thinks it's cheating then it's cheating, and don't do it. Otherwise, unless you personally think that you are cheating yourself, it doesn't matter.

 

[170]

How did you manage to connect study guides made by the publisher and your teacher's old tests? They're completely unrelated.

If your teacher thinks it's cheating then it's cheating, and don't do it. Otherwise, unless you personally think that you are cheating yourself, it doesn't matter.

teachers old test??? i said he uses the publishers test... the publisher made the student study guide... they are very related..besides the testbank has 300 questions in it and he asks 50 on the exam.. so im pretty sure he just chooses 50 from the bank

 

[Notecard]

one of my students told me they found one of my test online

i have been using "study guide for students" optional supplement text from the publisher

?? You did not say that. You said that the student found an actual past test online, and that you were nervous about studying a publicly made pool of questions.

In other words, you don't have anything to worry about.

 

[confettiflyer]

not cheating, your professor is just being lazy

 

[chemguy79]

my professor said "last semester one of my students told me they found one of my test online, i thought that was interesting" .... i was in that class last semester and I'm taking him again for another class...

Funny thing is, i found a test bank for my current textbook (made by the publisher) and was thinking if he used one for my other class, maybe he'll use it for this class as well?

Found the test bank or purchased the test bank?

 

[owlegrad]

This thread confuses me. Finding a professor's test online and using a publisher's student guide is not the same thing. Even if the professor is using the test bank supplied by the publisher, the question still makes no sense to me - using the resourse provided by the publisher to students is not cheating. No one could possibly think that is cheating, unless I am fundamentally misunderstanding the central issue here.

 

[170]

Found the test bank or purchased the test bank?

um found it on a professors umm website? i think he posted it for his students... but it is completely public material and looks like its directly from the publisher...

although there are websites trying to sell it...

 

[owlegrad]

um found it on a professors umm website? i think he posted it for his students... but it is completely public material and looks like its directly from the publisher...

although there are websites trying to sell it...

Now you are asking if what the professor posts online is cheating? What?

Can you please clarify the question for me? Thanks.

 

[170]

This thread confuses me. Finding a professor's test online and using a publisher's student guide is not the same thing. Even if the professor is using the test bank supplied by the publisher, the question still makes no sense to me - using the resourse provided by the publisher to students is not cheating. No one could possibly think that is cheating, unless I am fundamentally misunderstanding the central issue here.

ok i may have confused everyone when i said "he said a student found one of his test online"....im pretty sure when the student said that, he meant that he found the exact questions and answers on the testbank...not the exact test that was given...

 

[170]

Now you are asking if what the professor posts online is cheating? What?

Can you please clarify the question for me? Thanks.

NOT MY PROFESSOR... a professor from another college posted the test bank that ALL TEACHERS HAVE from the publisher.... im sure that professor doesn't use the exact test bank though...

 

[chemguy79]

This thread confuses me. Finding a professor's test online and using a publisher's student guide is not the same thing. Even if the professor is using the test bank supplied by the publisher, the question still makes no sense to me - using the resourse provided by the publisher to students is not cheating. No one could possibly think that is cheating, unless I am fundamentally misunderstanding the central issue here.

I think that there are two different issues at hand.

(1) The testbank is not provided to students under any circumstances.
(2) The publisher's student guide is what it is, a study guide for students. It can be purchased legally.

If you find the testbank on the internet, the professor can find the testbank via the internet, so it's laziness on his part if he chooses to use the test bank. Besides, you're probably not the first person to do it.

However, I know of students who would conspire together and illegally purchase testbanks from distributors on the internet. (Five students in my Physical Chemistry class at Purdue did this, were caught, and I never saw them again in any of my Chemistry classes.)

 

[170]

I think that there are two different issues at hand.

(1) The testbank is not provided to students under any circumstances.
(2) The publisher's student guide is what it is, a study guide for students. It can be purchased legally.

If you find the testbank on the internet, the professor can find the testbank via the internet, so it's laziness on his part if he chooses to use the test bank. Besides, you're probably not the first person to do it.

However, I know of students who would conspire together and illegally purchase testbanks from distributors on the internet. (Five students in my Physical Chemistry class at Purdue did this, were caught, and I never saw them again in any of my Chemistry classes.)

Yeah, my college's math and chemistry departments make their own finals...so there standardized in a way....therefore testbanks from the publishers wont help, and plus they change every semester... But this one is biology, seems like most teachers in the bio department are using the publishers testbanks as a crutch to not make there own tests..

 

[owlegrad]

NOT MY PROFESSOR... a professor from another college posted the test bank that ALL TEACHERS HAVE from the publisher.... im sure that professor doesn't use the exact test bank though...

Ah, I see now. I think. I don't know how chemguy managed to get all that, but pretty impressive.

I am going to agree with others here (I think?) - if your professor chooses to use questions that he knows you can find online (and in fact seems to be hinting to y'all that y'all can?) I think that is his way of trying to help you guys out. He wouldn't bring it up if he didn't expect that you would do it. If he chooses to keep drawing questions from the same bank, he is clearly trying to help you guys out. IMO. I may still be quite confused though.

 

[170]

Ah, I see now. I think. I don't know how chemguy managed to get all that, but pretty impressive.

I am going to agree with others here (I think?) - if your professor chooses to use questions that he knows you can find online (and in fact seems to be hinting to y'all that y'all can?) I think that is his way of trying to help you guys out. He wouldn't bring it up if he didn't expect that you would do it. If he chooses to keep drawing questions from the same bank, he is clearly trying to help you guys out. IMO. I may still be quite confused though.

lol sorry for the confusion..thanks for input

 

[crazybob]

I wouldn't abuse the whole situation too much.

If you get burned with a completely new test, well, it'll be hard.

 

[Pojman]

Might seem weird - But, I would suggest asking your professor.

There is a lot of gray area when it comes to issues like this. Cramster is a perfect example.

I have used Cramster.com for some of my classes. But! Before I use it, I will ask that professor, and tell my professor what my objective is when using Cramster.com.

In my case, I use Cramster.com for the tutoring help, and the math even answers. I find that if I use the site as a learning tool, and not a crutch, it helps me a lot. Some professors say they are fine with it, and some are not. In the end, it is most important to respect the position of your professor.

What is your objective of using the test bank? Is it a learning tool, or are you cheating? Only you can answer that.

 

[Busta919]

If you are using the test bank to study, then you are in a good situation. When the question changes, you have an understanding of what the question is asking and how to answer it. If you are using the test bank to memorize the answers, then what did you learn? If you don't know why the answer you memorized is correct and the information is changed or asked in a different manner, then you normally will not succeed.

It is mainly how you use the information. Public information is just that, public.

Some large classes, where there are multiple instructors and a lead instructor, may utilize a test bank that all the instructors draw their questions from so that class-to-class testing is balanced.

 

[Swiss Medical]

My mother is in nursing and is using a test bank. However, she also supplements that by actually reading the textbook. For some of my upcoming classes, I also have test banks available, but I am very reluctant to use them. I feel that using test banks are very dangerous in case the professor decides to change the questions. I would rather aim for learning the material traditionally by reading the book.

 

[WhiteSnows]

Half of my said it is cheating, the other half don't want to admit it.

 

[zdaven]

if your not cheating youre not trying hard enough

 

[xtsukiyox]

if your not cheating youre not trying hard enough

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Seriously, though.

 

[owlegrad]

 

[xtsukiyox]