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[bishoy20]

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Hi, i am a senior biology major with 3.87 GPA. i am planning to apply this summer but i have a question about withdrawing from a class with a W as a grade. i had two withdrawals from previous semesters and one withdrawal this semester but i want to withdraw from another class this semester too which is a bioseminar but i am afraid that this might hurt me in the application. so what do you think,,,,,,,,,thanx

 

[Kahr]

I imagine having your GPA, especially your sGPA, decrease as being more damaging than a withdrawal grade, even if you already have a few.

I withdrew from physics II in my final semester of undergrad because I just couldn't give it the attention it needed, knowing it would have hurt my GPA significantly. Decided to take it later with a better grade and higher GPA.

 

[bishoy20]

I imagine having your GPA, especially your sGPA, decrease as being more damaging than a withdrawal grade, even if you already have a few.

I withdrew from physics II in my final semester of undergrad because I just couldn't give it the attention it needed, knowing it would have hurt my GPA significantly. Decided to take it later with a better grade and higher GPA.

lol, W grade in my school is an indication of withdrawal from class but it's not a letter grade that counts in the GPA. its not like f grade. in my school in order to get a w grade i have to fill a certain form and submit it in the register's office before the deadline

 

[Kahr]

lol, W grade in my school is an indication of withdrawal from class but it's not a letter grade that counts in the GPA. its not like f grade. in my school in order to get a w grade i have to fill a certain form and submit it in the register's office before the deadline

Uhh, yeah, that's pretty much how it works at every school as far as I'm aware. I think you're misunderstanding me here.

 

[Osity]

I would avoid withdrawing, because to dental schools, I believe it looks the same as an F. Just stick with it and put in the necessary effort, because if your W's accumulate, it definitely starts to deteriorate your application.

 

[gigawatt]

Pulling out's not a great strategy, but sometimes it's your best option.

 

[Kahr]

I would avoid withdrawing, because to dental schools, I believe it looks the same as an F. Just stick with it and put in the necessary effort, because if your W's accumulate, it definitely starts to deteriorate your application.

I would think this would be the case with a "P" grade (Pass/Fail option), not a W. I mean, you could withdraw before the semester was even halfway over, I can't believe they would assume it to equal an F, especially if you later took the course and got a decent grade (I don't compare this to a re-take either).

A "W" is a "W", they can imagine all they want, but if they see a "C-" (or worse), they know for sure what it is, seems to me a literal bad grade is worse than a possible bad grade, along with a literal bad GPA. Just my opinion of course. I would agree with Osity IF you can tell yourself (and mean it) that you can in fact stick it out and do fairly well.

 

[Osity]

"You should do your best to avoid having to withdraw or retake a course, especially science prerequisites. Medical schools generally view a “W” as a C- or lower, even if you repeat the course."

This is off of NYU's website. It says medical schools, but I imagine it would be about the same for dental. So it's not an F, but it definitely will hurt your transcript.

 

[sbdento]

You have 3...is one more going to matter?

 

[bishoy20]

"You should do your best to avoid having to withdraw or retake a course, especially science prerequisites. Medical schools generally view a “W” as a C- or lower, even if you repeat the course."

This is off of NYU's website. It says medical schools, but I imagine it would be about the same for dental. So it's not an F, but it definitely will hurt your transcript.

I have 3 W's but two W's are for elective classes (history and economics) and only one for science class (genetics) which i took again later and got and A-

 

[Nateftw]

You shouldn't ever need to withdraw from a class unless you have a special circumstance...It sounds to me like you aren't picking your classes correctly. There is a drop deadline, and that is what you should be using to get out of class that you don't want to take...not withdrawls. A withdrawl implies that you couldn't handle the course for one reason or another, and thats how any adcom would look at it..whether the reason is because you're sick, or because you are lazy; it doesn't matter.

You should think ahead, and DROP the course when you can, don't wait too long and be forced to withdraw.

 

[dantemac]

Rack up as few as possible. They will ask about them during interviews.

 

[bishoy20]

"You should do your best to avoid having to withdraw or retake a course, especially science prerequisites. Medical schools generally view a "W" as a C- or lower, even if you repeat the course."

This is off of NYU's website. It says medical schools, but I imagine it would be about the same for dental. So it's not an F, but it definitely will hurt your transcript.

so are you saying that they will count these W's as C's when they recalculate my GPA in the AADSAS

 

[Kahr]

so are you saying that they will count these W's as C's when they recalculate my GPA in the AADSAS

No, they have no impact on your calculated GPA in AADSAS. He's saying that should the admissions people decide to give your transcripts a look-over, they may equate a W grade as C- or lower in their heads, e.g. it isn't harmless, it has a negative effect to some extent. And I imagine the more W grades, the worse they look in culmination. (None of this is my own opinion, I'm just interpreting)

 

[notin]

No, they have no impact on your calculated GPA in AADSAS. He's saying that should the admissions people decide to give your transcripts a look-over, they may equate a W grade as C- or lower in their heads, e.g. it isn't harmless, it has a negative effect to some extent. And I imagine the more W grades, the worse they look in culmination. (None of this is my own opinion, I'm just interpreting)

i agree completely with this. a W will for sure not actually impact your gpa calculation. but admissions people will look at a W and think "so they were failing..." and if they see a bunch they might wonder what your deal is. that said, i think a W is better than a C-, as your calculated GPA is king, but avoid them if possible.

thinking back on it, at my school i don't even think you were allowed to withdraw more than once without petitioning the dean.