Your last post either deliberately misquoted and misrepresented my comments or is proof of your poor cognitive and analytical skills.
As I stated in my previous post, I offered an OPINION based on my experiences. You said that I made statements that "lack any objective backing" and that I "claim to be an academic or an intellectual". Please have someone who can read go over my previous postings and explain that I never claimed to be an "intellectual" or an "academnic". These are your fabrications.
Furthermore, I made it clear that my opinion is based on ample experience with both current students and recent grads -- yet still only an opinion.
In addition, you falsely state that I claim to be a "humanitarian". Again, YOUR word, not mine.
Now that I have corrected your misrepresentations/misquotes, I will respond to your general argument:
Yes, I have seen the same student at more than one interview. I agree that there are similar qualities that the top schools look for in candidiates. These are initially at least, primarily "paper" qualities/numbers that will result in similar interview pools. And yes, there is a luck factor involved when dealing with personalities during an interview.
However, you are sadly mistaken if you think that schools, particularly Cornell and Columbia, do not strive for a class reflecting a certain "personality". Andrew Frantz, the head of admissions at Columbia, is well-known to put his personal stamp on each entering class. He has very certain ideas about the type of students he wants to see at Columbia and the overall class personality. Obviously he does not interview every student, but he does have veto power, and exercises it at will, to shape the entering class. You are dead wrong when you intimate that at these top schools, the interview is used to determine "will this student get through school". This is especially true at Columbia as is evidenced by the type of questions students are asked.
Now, I never suggested, as you indicated, that Columbia looks for immature students. However, it is certainly possible that in their quest to admit students with certain traits/backgrounds (e.g. rugby players) that they deem positive, that they overlook or fail to emphasize others (e.g. maturity, commitment to serve the underpriveleged, etc.) This has been my experience -- again, with current and recent grads.
ONE example: A current student (MS2) at Columbia who used to work at Harlem Hospital and see many Columbia students come through "wanting to learn, but not touch the indigent". I am not going to enumerate every one, but this example was very telling.
Also, your statement that students choose med schools "somewhat randomly" is laughable. While students select med schools for varying reasons, location, curriculum, cost, etc., and you may not agree with their methodology, pre-med students are an overwhelmingly anal lot. This is more likely amongst the students selecting from the "top schools".
Finally, your last paragraph in which you falsely state that I claim to be a "humanitarian", misses the point. There are still students deciding whether or not to accept an offer of admission from Cornell (perhaps deciding between Columbia and Cornell) and other hopefuls on the wait-list. While Cornell is still my first choice, I am not going to disparage Cornell in the hopes dissuading others, in order to improve my chance of admission.
The original intent of my post was to offer an opinion based on observations, conversations with students/grads and faculty at both schools, and a solid knowledge of the admissions process at both schools. Furthermore, as an older app with life experience in the real world, I wanted to assist the original poster since he/she is of a similar background.
Again, learn how to accept dissenting opinions without refelxively labeling them "cheap-shots" -- if not for your own sake, then for your future patients.
Based on your numerous misquotes of my posts and your posing as a physician in another thread (Did you know chiropractors do cancer screenings?), I would ask that you try to maintain some modicum of responsibility in the future.