Jackets and Shoes for colder climates

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I grew up in Los Angeles and am moving to what's considered the 2nd coldest state in the nation. What should I be buying to keep my torso warm, my ears from freezing off and my contacts from straight up breaking in my eyes? Everyone's been saying I should get a north face down jacket with a hood.. but is there anything that insulates that isn't as bulky? Will one of those fleece with waterproof shell ski jackets do?
Thanks.
 
there are north face jackets that aren't super bulky but still warm. look out for those. fleece's with shells won't cut it. invest in a good pair of warm boots and good gloves, you'll probably need something warm to cover your ears. it also depends how warm-blooded you are...i have poor circulation so fleece is my best friend. ps leather gloves look warm but fleece traps more heat. also, you'll need to layer a lot, usually through winter I wear running leggings(underarmor knockoffs) under my jeans for about a month and a half straight. i'm from illinois so hope that helps ya.
 
Minnesota is freaking cold. Get a good winter coat. Look for jackets used by skiers. I shelled out the money to buy one and it was totally worth it to be able to feel my arms when I get inside.
 
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If you don't want to wear a snowboarding/ski jacket everyday, I recommend wool coats with a good lining. I have a hooded toggle coat from J. Crew and combined with a good scarf and gloves, I am always warm and it goes with everything I wear, casual and professional.

I would caution you with the running pants under jeans thing. Yeah, if you've gotta walk more than say 2-3 blocks, it'll be nice, but you'll want strip down once you get inside. Be sweating buckets otherwise. Plan out your layering of clothes.
 
If you don't want to wear a snowboarding/ski jacket everyday, I recommend wool coats with a good lining. I have a hooded toggle coat from J. Crew and combined with a good scarf and gloves, I am always warm and it goes with everything I wear, casual and professional.

I would caution you with the running pants under jeans thing. Yeah, if you've gotta walk more than say 2-3 blocks, it'll be nice, but you'll want strip down once you get inside. Be sweating buckets otherwise. Plan out your layering of clothes.

There you go. I don't know why people feel like they need to wear a parka and a thick sweater and snowboots and long underwear every day. Get a good warm coat (as you mentioned), a scarf to wrap around your neck, a good pair of wool gloves, and a simple knit cap. Maybe a pair of conservative/simple boots for getting in and out of your car, etc. You're not going to be doing any outdoor camping or living in an igloo, you're only outside for a few seconds, maybe a few minutes at a time. Indoors it's still 70 degrees, just like during the summer. You'll be fine.
 
While some people don't like to wear thermal underclothes, I do. They are cheap and I have yet to get extremely hot in them if I am indoors. Layering is just something you will have to get used to, but it isn't so bad once you adjust.
 
Growing up in Minnesota, I've discovered that during the winter I never really seem to "thaw out" after being outside unless I wear long sleeves/sweaters/sweatshirts everyday. But that's just me - I think I might be cold-blooded...

I just got a new jacket at the Columbia outlet in Medford (about an hour or so south of the cities)... it is one of those double layer jackets that you can separate, and I absoultely love it, plus I got an amazing deal on it. Oh and a thick hat and a jacket with a hood are pretty crucial for those blustery days 😉
 
When I moved from Los Angeles to New York for med school, I was unpleasantly surprised by the 1st winter. It's far from the 2nd coldest state, but I found that the north face style down jackets you mentioned makes a huge difference. I ended up using one of those down jackets that went all the way to my knees, zipped up, to keep the rain and wind out.

Wool jackets probably won't keep you warm when it is cold, especially when you are used to LA weather. Keep in mind that in LA, winters are 50 degrees F and people think it is cold. I don't know where you are going, but I remember the coldest it got when I was in NY was negative 10 (with windchill). The other thing to keep in mind is that when it rains, the north face jacket will keep water out, while most wool jackets will soak it up and become a mess.
 
I will let you in on a little cold weather secret. The key to staying warm is wind protection. Just buy a winter jacket and make damn sure it is wind proof.
 
LA --> upstate NY

I took a look at my wardrobe today and realized 1/3 of it was t-shirts and shorts. 1/2 of my shoes are flip-flops and sandals.


I'm screwed :laugh:
 
If you don't want to wear a snowboarding/ski jacket everyday, I recommend wool coats with a good lining. I have a hooded toggle coat from J. Crew and combined with a good scarf and gloves, I am always warm and it goes with everything I wear, casual and professional.

I would caution you with the running pants under jeans thing. Yeah, if you've gotta walk more than say 2-3 blocks, it'll be nice, but you'll want strip down once you get inside. Be sweating buckets otherwise. Plan out your layering of clothes.

I have both a snowboarding jacket (more casual, also used for actually snowboarding) and a dressier wool jacket from J.crew. Both are super super warm. You'll need scarfs, mittens/gloves, and warm hats. Look for wool or fleece. You'll also need layers. I love silk long undies (mine are from L.L. Bean) because they keep you super warm but aren't bulky at all. Get some socks that are meant for hiking . . . they will be super warm without being bulky and will whisk moisture. On the coldest day you can have long undies --> long sleeve shirt --> thin sweater --> coat and then you can strip down to just the long sleeve shirt with the undershirt in a particularly toasty indoor environment. Uggs rock for footwear. I've trekked around in 20 for hours in those things and still had warm toes. You'll probably also want some type of waterproof boot with nice treads for slushy snowy days. Also nice sheepskin slippers for indoors at home.
 
Can I give you LA natives some advice? I'm sure you all have tact and grace that this may go without saying, but don't go around complaining about the weather all the time this winter. It's annoying. We're all cold, the only difference is how you handle it. Dress appropriately and it won't be a problem. Complaining about it just makes you sound snobby & prissy.
 
Can I give you LA natives some advice? I'm sure you all have tact and grace that this may go without saying, but don't go around complaining about the weather all the time this winter. It's annoying. We're all cold, the only difference is how you handle it. Dress appropriately and it won't be a problem. Complaining about it just makes you sound snobby & prissy.

Likewise, you should probably realize it's a big change/shock for us, and we're most likely not trying to be "snobby and prissy" 🙄
 
going from living in 80 degree weather all your life to minus temperatures and storms is a HUGE adjustment. and expressing shock/dislike/etc isn't being prissy.
 
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Can I give you LA natives some advice? I'm sure you all have tact and grace that this may go without saying, but don't go around complaining about the weather all the time this winter. It's annoying. We're all cold, the only difference is how you handle it. Dress appropriately and it won't be a problem. Complaining about it just makes you sound snobby & prissy.

Haha, as somebody who grew up in Northern Wisconsin and did my undergraduate degree at the U of Minnesota, I have to disagree. We ALL spend the entire winter bitching about and hating on the cold, not just the warm weather transplants. The only exception is anybody who does so without wearing a hat, gloves, and oaf-ish looking winter coat, they should be and are ostracized.

OP, the tunnels at the U of MN are key! And the amazing springs, summers, and falls (almost) make the winters worth it.
 
going from living in 80 degree weather all your life to minus temperatures and storms is a HUGE adjustment. and expressing shock/dislike/etc isn't being prissy.

Yeah, it's an adjustment you'll have to make. It just comes off a little insulting at times when Californians, who have had the benefit of living in perfect warm weather their whole life, are constantly whining about how they hate the weather and they're so used to beautiful warm weather as if their delicately sun-bronzed skin can't possibly stand anything else. As was stated above, we don't really like it either, but this is our home and yours too for the next few years and the place you chose to do your medical training, so don't pretend your body temp drops any more than ours with proper clothing. I don't mean to be rude, it was just a pet peeve of mine going to school here. Sounds like some of you are already planning to gripe a lot though.
 
I went Hawai'i to Wisconsin.

On the really, really beyond cold days (<-5-0F), I wore my long down jacket, tall Uggs, snowboarding gloves + liners, scarf, beanie, and ski goggles.

Seriously about the ski goggles, they're awesome, even if you look kinda weird. If you already have them, and you have to walk far, I'd suggest using them. My eyes would start hurting.

Generally I wear my snowboarding jacket especially if I'm just going to and from school, but if it's a little warmer I wear wool coats
 
You're right that it's an adjustment we have to make, but it's not like we're going "oh CA is so much better than [insert cold state here]. I understand that everyone has their pet peeves, but you need to develop a little more patience towards people who will be out of their comfort zones and trying to adjust. Right now you come across as just plain bitter and intolerant.

Actually, that's exactly what CAians have said in the past, and repeatedly enough to go from light-hearted joking to eye-rolling to thinking, "yeah, I can't wait until you go back to CA for residency either" to get under my skin. My advice is to do your best not to be that guy.

And for the record, I really don't mind if my venting comes off as "just plain bitter and intolerant" whilst griping about gripers anonymously on the internet. However I suppose I apologize if anyone was honestly offended.
 
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California----->Wisconsin for me.

I'm scared and excited to experience my first REAL winter.

FWIW, I've lived in WI for my whole life (inc. college and med school) and haven't had a 'winter' jacket for like 7 or 8 years. I usually just layer well with something long sleeve or sweat-shirty and then throw on a fleece afterward.

I think the key is having a great set of gloves and a hat. It's really your extremities that get cold, not your torso (well at least for me, that is)
 
I've lived in MI my whole life, and we get a ton of lake effect snow. I agree with the poster above, that if you keep your extremities warm most days you can get away with a sweatshirt and a North Face fleece over it for your torso. Keep your feet, hands, and ears warm and dry and you will be fine! The weather is an adjustment, but winter can be absolutely breathtaking in it's own clean, white, fresh way!

Seriously, buy some gloves (I always wear the cheap kid's style cotton ones for ease of washing, gloves get gross touching outside stuff) and keep your hands stuffed in your pockets while you walk outside. As for feet, buy some waterproof boots (I do the Uggs simply for function, I think they are hideous and always have, but they do keep your feet dry and warm) that go above you pant line. While walking outside, stick your pants into the boots, then when you get inside pull them out and let your jeans fall normally. No one notices you have on ugly shoes if you untuck your pants to draw the attention away from them. Nothing sucks more than your pants to get all snowy and wet and having to sit in class all day like that...ick. As for ears, I just pull my hood up on my jacket and call it good. I don't really think earmuffs or bands are necessary unless you are going out to stay out, ie build a snowman or ski or something. Knit hats are good too, but as a girl they really mess up your hair and it's too hot to just leave them on once you get inside.
 
Having lived in northern Michigan for my entire life, I can give you a couple of helpful hints. Let me just give a side note first. I live for winter, it is the most anticipated time of year for me, and I can even imagine what living without snow is going to be like (I know I'm just moving to detroit which is still fairly cold. But seriously, things just get dirtier here as opposed to having a pristine blanket of 2-4 feet of snow the whole winter, its pretty sad). I have been a competitive downhill skier my whole life, so standing out in the cold with just a speed suit on in -40 below can suck (Lutsen MN AND searchmont canada, true story), but there are ways you can live through it.


Here are a few tips:
- Even if you are wearing gloves, put your hands + gloves into your coat pockets, you wouldn't believe how much this works
- Dont wear more than one pair of socks unless you have too big of boots. Tight boots = cold boots
- invest in a good hat. "nice" or "cute" hats wont cut it when its really cold. Find a hat that is wool and a bit thicker than others, something that will cover your whole ears. Most of your heat is lost through you head/neck area
- If you have a choice on sidewalks and entrances to walk on packed snow or clear/wet looking pavement, pick the packed snow. Snow has grip, ice does not. Black ice is not forgiving, and I have seen/been in some wicked falls on pavement that looked ok without closer inspection.

Hope some of those help
 
180s.

Good boots, good jacket, gloves. I don't like hats beause I have big curly hair and hats ruin it, but the 180s keep my ears toasty and dont ruin my hairstyle.....so vain....