Jason Burke, M.D.

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Congrats. to Dr. Burke on building a successful business in Las Vegas as well as a national vitamin business.

He is the leading expert on treating "hangovers" in the world.

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I tried a $225 hangover cure — and it worked

 

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[Man o War]

This dude is brilliant.
I would’ve laughed in his face if he told
me he was leaving the OR for this.
Now I wish I’d have thought of it.

 

[caligas]

He may be making millions with little work, but I sleep well at night knowing that I actually help people instead of enabling bad....

....Ok, I admit it, I’m Jealous.

 

[Twiggidy]

He may be making millions with little work, but I sleep well at night knowing that I actually help people instead of enabling bad....

....Ok, I admit it, I’m Jealous.

 

[Twiggidy]

I complain everyday that I don’t think outside the box, but I’m also a bit of a chicken shyte when it comes to risk. Guess that’s why I’ll be sleeping in a hospital 5 nights a month unless I “sack up”.

 

[caligas]

what is this “sarcasm” you speak of?

 

[pgg]

I wonder what'll happen when he treats a headache that isn't from a hangover, and that patient drops dead a week or six months later from something a real headache workup would've revealed to be a [bleed, tumor, parasite egg sac]. Does he carry liability insurance?

 

[BLADEMDA]

I wonder what'll happen when he treats a headache that isn't from a hangover, and that patient drops dead a week or six months later from something a real headache workup would've revealed to be a [bleed, tumor, parasite egg sac]. Does he carry liability insurance?

Maybe he goes "bare" and tells every patient that prior to his "treatment"? Maybe, they sign a waiver/consent acknowledging he has no malpractice insurance and his remedy is intended only for healthy people. If your headache persists go to the ER.

 

[deleted87051]

There are people out there treating cancer with vitamins. In the scheme of things what he is doing is very low risk.

 

[BLADEMDA]

There are people out there treating cancer with vitamins. In the scheme of things what he is doing is very low risk.

11,000 "treatments" over 12 months at $225 per treatment: $2.47 million. Yes, we need to subtract his "overhead" and Nursing labor costs but I'm pretty certain that left him with a nice chunk of change even after giving a nice % to his PhD partner.

 

[OB1🤙]

I was giving serious thought to doing this out here, but another guy beat me to it.

 

[chocomorsel]

He's a nice dude. Business savvy obviously.

 

[Mman]

I was giving serious thought to doing this out here, but another guy beat me to it.

he's been doing it for at least 10 years I think. I know him through a friend and this is not something he recently started doing.

 

[deleted162650]

I was giving serious thought to doing this out here, but another guy beat me to it.

I think there’s only a couple locations where this idea could work, and Vegas is obviously #1 on the list. I just don’t think you’d have enough consistent volume in most other places.

 

[sevoflurane]

I have ex partners that are doing just this in Vegas and I think Berke used to be in our group. Hire a handful of OR/ICU nurses, get through the licensure peocess, insurance contracts, marketing and then start collecting royalties and never take call again. Not a bad gig, but it does take some effort.

 

[caligas]

Keep waiting to see this guy show up on shark tank.

I think it’s “scalable” to NYC, LA, Miami, Cancun etc...

Nothing really proprietary though.

 

[Twiggidy]

I have ex partners that are doing just this in Vegas and I think Berke used to be in our group. Hire a handful of OR/ICU nurses, get through the licensure peocess, insurance contracts, marketing and then start collecting royalties and never take call again. Not a bad gig, but it does take some effort.

and there lies my problem....i need to change this mindset or else I'll always be a minion.

 

[deleted643396]

There's already one in NYC: Home

I'm not sure why you would spend money on IV fluids when a $6 bowel of pho usually does the trick.

This is a gimmick and more of a flash in the pan type of business rather than something that lasts.

 

[Twiggidy]

There's already one in NYC: Home

I'm not sure why you would spend money on IV fluids when a $6 bowel of pho usually does the trick.

This is a gimmick and more of a flash in the pan type of business rather than something that lasts.

Or some chicken and waffles.....which means I just need to open a Roscoe's

 

[OB1🤙]

Treatments

 

[deleted162650]

Or some chicken and waffles.....which means I just need to open a Roscoe's

Way to feed the stereotype. 😉

#soulfoodmatters

 

[Twiggidy]

Way to feed the stereotype. 😉

#soulfoodmatters

#allfoodmatters

 

[Iso4ane]

Way to feed the stereotype. 😉

#soulfoodmatters

#allfoodmatters

No amount of salad will make me happy after a night of drinking.

 

[deleted162650]

No amount of salad will make me happy after a night of drinking.

Does the celery in a Bloody Mary count?

 

[Mman]

There's already one in NYC: Home

I'm not sure why you would spend money on IV fluids when a $6 bowel of pho usually does the trick.

This is a gimmick and more of a flash in the pan type of business rather than something that lasts.

I can only assume you've never been to Las Vegas. He's been doing this for years. Las Vegas is full of people blowing cash left and right that are only there transiently. While one individual may only use this service once in their life, somebody else will use it the next day. It's a sea of 10s of thousands of people many of whom are spending hundreds of dollars (or way more) per night at the club and are only in town for a short while. If he can get them back in action quicker the next day, it's worth it to them.

I'd bet the real kicker is getting in with the casino hosts and making house calls up to the room of whales.

 

[deleted87051]

Keep waiting to see this guy show up on shark tank.

I think it’s “scalable” to NYC, LA, Miami, Cancun etc...

Nothing really proprietary though.

I can only assume you've never been to Las Vegas. He's been doing this for years. Las Vegas is full of people blowing cash left and right that are only there transiently. While one individual may only use this service once in their life, somebody else will use it the next day. It's a sea of 10s of thousands of people many of whom are spending hundreds of dollars (or way more) per night at the club and are only in town for a short while. If he can get them back in action quicker the next day, it's worth it to them.

I'd bet the real kicker is getting in with the casino hosts and making house calls up to the room of whales.

This was started by one of our former anesthesia techs/strip club bouncer.

Las Vegas : IV Rescue

 

[deleted643396]

I can only assume you've never been to Las Vegas. He's been doing this for years. Las Vegas is full of people blowing cash left and right that are only there transiently. While one individual may only use this service once in their life, somebody else will use it the next day. It's a sea of 10s of thousands of people many of whom are spending hundreds of dollars (or way more) per night at the club and are only in town for a short while. If he can get them back in action quicker the next day, it's worth it to them.

I'd bet the real kicker is getting in with the casino hosts and making house calls up to the room of whales.

Oh I've been to Vegas more times than I care to admit...

Maybe it works long term, but I think the prostitute analogy works here. There's nothing proprietary about hanging a bag of IV fluids. Once other people see that this guy is making easy money there will be plenty of people who want to get in on it until there are people on every corner offering some hangover fix. In the end, a Bloody Mary and a greasy meal works just as well.

 

[Iso4ane]

Does the celery in a Bloody Mary count?

I guess between the tomato and celery, two vegetables a salad makes.

 

[Shimmy8]

I've been approached about starting something up like this in my city by some friends business acquantices. There's a group or two here already but they're run terribly and marginally successful. Lot of CRNAs in my group have previously worked on and off for the companies.

Might give it a run later this year.

I'm in a city that is booming and could be sustainable.

 

[Mman]

Oh I've been to Vegas more times than I care to admit...

Maybe it works long term, but I think the prostitute analogy works here. There's nothing proprietary about hanging a bag of IV fluids. Once other people see that this guy is making easy money there will be plenty of people who want to get in on it until there are people on every corner offering some hangover fix. In the end, a Bloody Mary and a greasy meal works just as well.

While there can be a strip club on every corner or a hooker at every bar, places like the Rhino are still raking in money hand over fist year after year. I agree anybody can do it, but that doesn't mean there aren't first mover advantages. I suspect he'll be retired before his profit margin is run down to nothing.

 

[chocomorsel]

There's already one in NYC: Home

I'm not sure why you would spend money on IV fluids when a $6 bowel of pho usually does the trick.

This is a gimmick and more of a flash in the pan type of business rather than something that lasts.

What about when you can’t tolerate PO fluids?

 

[Psai]

What about when you can’t tolerate PO fluids?

Admission

 

[Twiggidy]

While there can be a strip club on every corner or a hooker at every bar, places like the Rhino are still raking in money hand over fist year after year. I agree anybody can do it, but that doesn't mean there aren't first mover advantages. I suspect he'll be retired before his profit margin is run down to nothing.

Easy there. The Rhino is the Rhino for a reason. Not just anyone can show up with a g-string and a smile and say "Can I dance?" So I'm not sure this analogy really works. Now in this situation, I would argue that the people working for him are no better at hanging IVs than the next man so if a bunch of services do start to pop up there will need to be something that distinguishes them. If his service has regular joe's showing up starting IV's, maybe mine will have "said Rhino workers" showing up starting IVs. I bet you the latter (and I'm sure there's a nurse, CRNA, MD or two at the Rhino) will get more business from the Venture cap bros going HAM on a weekend in Vegas.

These are all just hypotheticals of course......not that I'm well versed on the Rhino at all.

 

[deleted162650]

Easy there. The Rhino is the Rhino for a reason. Not just anyone can show up with a g-string and a smile and say "Can I dance?" So I'm not sure this analogy really works. Now in this situation, I would argue that the people working for him are no better at hanging IVs than the next man so if a bunch of services do start to pop up there will need to be something that distinguishes them. If his service has regular joe's showing up starting IV's, maybe mine will have "said Rhino workers" showing up starting IVs. I bet you the latter (and I'm sure there's a nurse, CRNA, MD or two at the Rhino) will get more business from the Venture cap bros going HAM on a weekend in Vegas.

These are all just hypotheticals of course......not that I'm well versed on the Rhino at all.

PM me your business plan. Let’s do this.

 

[Man o War]

Easy there. The Rhino is the Rhino for a reason. Not just anyone can show up with a g-string and a smile and say "Can I dance?" So I'm not sure this analogy really works. Now in this situation, I would argue that the people working for him are no better at hanging IVs than the next man so if a bunch of services do start to pop up there will need to be something that distinguishes them. If his service has regular joe's showing up starting IV's, maybe mine will have "said Rhino workers" showing up starting IVs. I bet you the latter (and I'm sure there's a nurse, CRNA, MD or two at the Rhino) will get more business from the Venture cap bros going HAM on a weekend in Vegas.

These are all just hypotheticals of course......not that I'm well versed on the Rhino at all.

Rhino and Hangover Heaven combined would seriously cut into Dr Burke’s bottom line.
And here you thought you were bad at thinking outside the box!

 

[Ipassgas]

A CRNA here was at the same place, same time as his residency. Was neither complimentary, nor derogatory about him. Implied he was lazy and always looking for the shortcut. I guess he found it.

I also considered trying it here. Batted the idea around for 6 months, always talking myself out of it due to risk aversion.

Now, an NP opened one and runs crappy radio ads. I should check out her operation. Maybe I can unseat her first mover advantage . . .

 

[deleted643396]

Easy there. The Rhino is the Rhino for a reason. Not just anyone can show up with a g-string and a smile and say "Can I dance?" So I'm not sure this analogy really works. Now in this situation, I would argue that the people working for him are no better at hanging IVs than the next man so if a bunch of services do start to pop up there will need to be something that distinguishes them. If his service has regular joe's showing up starting IV's, maybe mine will have "said Rhino workers" showing up starting IVs. I bet you the latter (and I'm sure there's a nurse, CRNA, MD or two at the Rhino) will get more business from the Venture cap bros going HAM on a weekend in Vegas.

These are all just hypotheticals of course......not that I'm well versed on the Rhino at all.

Count me in as an early investor...and possibly customer.

 

[deleted162650]

Rhino and Hangover Heaven combined would seriously cut into Dr Burke’s bottom line.
And here you thought you were bad at thinking outside the box!

Actually, I think he was thinking more inside the box

 

[Twiggidy]

Actually, I think he was thinking more inside the box

 

[Twiggidy]

For some reason this whole I idea has me feeling like this....

 

[deleted162650]

Ok, I’ve got a slogan for the stripper hangover cure service:

“We’ll straighten you right out!”

Or, why stop at strippers - this is Nevada after all. How ‘bout

Hangover Hookers
“We’ll poke you while you poke us”


I actually think that sooner than later the hotel/casinos will just start offering this as an in house service and put the mobile operations outta business.

 

[chocomorsel]

Admission

Way more expensive than calling up this guy.

 

[Twiggidy]

Ok, I’ve got a slogan for the stripper hangover cure service:

“We’ll straighten you right out!”

Or, why stop at strippers - this is Nevada after all. How ‘bout

Hangover Hookers
“We’ll poke you while you poke us”


I actually think that sooner than later the hotel/casinos will just start offering this as an in house service and put the mobile operations outta business.

Suite at the Wynn....a couple buffet vouchers....a night of bottle service at XS.....i don't ask for much to provide my skills

 

[Mman]

I actually think that sooner than later the hotel/casinos will just start offering this as an in house service and put the mobile operations outta business.

The benefit to a mobile op is you only need 1 or 2 people at a 5000 bed hotel to use the service to be profitable. If you are the hotel, can't exactly pay staff to sit around all day for only 1 or 2 customers.

I kinda doubt each hotel has 20 people per day using this. I mean maybe after some epic Hangover style batchelor party, but not on a regular basis especially on weekdays.

 

[ZzzPlz]

Legalized marijuana is not going to help the hangover IV service one bit

 

[deleted162650]

Legalized marijuana is not going to help the hangover IV service one bit

They can just parlay into a Funion delivery service. Problem solved.

 

[Mad Jack]

I think there’s only a couple locations where this idea could work, and Vegas is obviously #1 on the list. I just don’t think you’d have enough consistent volume in most other places.

There's at least one guy doing this in NYC

 

[Apollyon]

I actually think that sooner than later the hotel/casinos will just start offering this as an in house service and put the mobile operations outta business.

That's where you butt up against regulatory agencies. If the hotel actually is the boss, then the argument that you are running a hospital could be made. This is different from a solo practitioner hanging a shingle for a doctor's office, or a group expressly formed to be a doctor's practice. For example, in Waikiki, the tourist clinic is in a hotel (the Sheraton Waikiki, and at the Hilton Hawai'ian Village), but it's run by Straub Health, not the hotel. (There are also a few urgent cares in Waikiki.) That's when it's cost-effective or not, for the hotel to offer it.