JB/MBA before MD

Started by adoggie
This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Thank you.
Get help with your application

Use all the free resources available to you from SDN: articles, guides, expert advising, forums discussions, and school research.

adoggie

Full Member
10+ Year Member
5+ Year Member
15+ Year Member
Advertisement - Members don't see this ad
Will having JD and MBA degrees (in US) before medical school (in UK) negatively impact my MD application? I want the first two degrees to make money to pay for employment in Germany so I can attend a UK med school as an EU citizen. What do you think...
 
Why would you waste 5+ years of your life obtaining those degrees if your ultimate goal is to do something not even related to them?

Perhaps he wants to open his own office and then represent himself once he gets sued for malpractice?
 
Advertisement - Members don't see this ad
I think it will raise a red flag, but if you can explain your situation and express your passion for medicine it should be no problem.

I'm interested in getting my JD eventually (after many years of practice) and going into politics to improve our healthcare system. Idealistic, I know.
 
Will having JD and MBA degrees (in US) before medical school (in UK) negatively impact my MD application? I want the first two degrees to make money to pay for employment in Germany so I can attend a UK med school as an EU citizen. What do you think...

This board attracts almost exclusively candidates interested in practicing in the US. The standards for admission to medical school can vary wildly from country to country. I doubt that you're going to get any useful advice here.

Also, your post confuses me. Are you trying to gain citizenship in the EU? Is there some reason you need two seperate graduate degrees to do that? Do you just want the graduate degrees to improve your earning potential so that you can pay for medical school? If so, how are you paying for the graduate degrees themseleves, and why can't you just use that source of funding to pay for the MD instead?
 
I think it will raise a red flag, but if you can explain your situation and express your passion for medicine it should be no problem.

I'm interested in getting my JD eventually (after many years of practice) and going into politics to improve our healthcare system. Idealistic, I know.

I've also thought of a MPH/MD joint possibility. I like to write articles, not that I have much experience presently or anything.
 
Why would you waste 5+ years of your life obtaining those degrees if your ultimate goal is to do something not even related to them?

I want to practice medicine in London, rather than the US. And I can save maybe $100,000 of international student tuition money in addition to having a business perspective and experience, under the MBA plan.
 
This board attracts almost exclusively candidates interested in practicing in the US. The standards for admission to medical school can vary wildly from country to country. I doubt that you're going to get any useful advice here.

Also, your post confuses me. Are you trying to gain citizenship in the EU? Is there some reason you need two seperate graduate degrees to do that? Do you just want the graduate degrees to improve your earning potential so that you can pay for medical school? If so, how are you paying for the graduate degrees themseleves, and why can't you just use that source of funding to pay for the MD instead?

I decided to boot the JD possibility. But working with an MBA and real management experience is a nice way to spend time in Europe, since that's where I want to live and die. I'm not going straight into the MD because I think I should have a backup qualification in case I end up in some muddy hole and lose my doctor job. It's easier for young people to take out loans - they have parents who can co-sign.
 
I decided to boot the JD possibility. But working with an MBA and real management experience is a nice way to spend time in Europe, since that's where I want to live and die. I'm not going straight into the MD because I think I should have a backup qualification in case I end up in some muddy hole and lose my doctor job. It's easier for young people to take out loans - they have parents who can co-sign.

Why would you lose your job? surgeons who had medical malpractice suits dont lose their MD typically.
You plan seems very convoluted to me, quite frankly.
If you want to be an MBA in europe then stay an MBA in europe. Getting an MD is like asking for another 100,000 in loans, for a profession which, apparently, doesnt seem like your calling
 
I want to practice medicine in London, rather than the US. And I can save maybe $100,000 of international student tuition money in addition to having a business perspective and experience, under the MBA plan.

How does an MBA help you practice medicine in ENGLAND?
 
Listen, if you drink a Jim Bean before anything relating to the medical field you have larger fish to fry. I don't care if it's MD, DO, MPH. Now if you are referring to going to see the Jonas Brother, I have no issue with that.

But being a lawyer and MBA dude before becoming a MD might raise some red flags with some people.
 
I decided to boot the JD possibility. But working with an MBA and real management experience is a nice way to spend time in Europe, since that's where I want to live and die. I'm not going straight into the MD because I think I should have a backup qualification in case I end up in some muddy hole and lose my doctor job. It's easier for young people to take out loans - they have parents who can co-sign.

Again, if you can't take out loans how are you getting the MBA? They're expensive too.
 
I want the first two degrees to make money to pay for employment in Germany so I can attend a UK med school as an EU citizen. What do you think...

I earned my MBA straight out of undergrad with full ride (scholarships + GA) from a top-tier institution. (very rare) Sorry OP but you are dreaming. I don't know how much the JD/MBA education costs in Europe but it'll take you a very long time just to break even. Not to mention the (natural) unemployment rate in Europe is much higher than that of U.S. It took my European friend (an MBA) over a year just to get a job.

Also, MBA right out of undergrad is not that useful unless you have a specific goal. In fact, most top schools won't accept you in the first place without several years experience or a specific goal. In my case, I lacked the experience but had a goal. And don't bother going to any MBA programs below the first tier.
 
Advertisement - Members don't see this ad
MBAs are great to have for a doctor, particularly if you want to start your own private practice and you specialized in healthcare for the MBA.

Furthermore, MBAs will definitely give a headstart in learning about how to conduct oneself before people in a professional manner, and how to work as part of a team - something doctors need to do, surgeons included.
 
My opinion, no one has any business in an MBA program until they have worked at a salaried professional position for 5 years. Until then, you lack the fund of knowledge to make the most of business school.


I know a few of my relatives in business who say the same thing. LizzyM knows everything.
 
MBAs are great to have for a doctor, particularly if you want to start your own private practice and you specialized in healthcare for the MBA.

Furthermore, MBAs will definitely give a headstart in learning about how to conduct oneself before people in a professional manner, and how to work as part of a team - something doctors need to do, surgeons included.

So, you want to be a surgeon in your own private practice in england? Maybe you should look into what it takes to do that, because healthcare is set up a little differently over there. I mean, technically it might be possible, but...well I guess that's it. Technically, it's just barely possible.