JHU-Osler vs. BWH vs. MGH

[buckeye03]

---

Members do not see this ad.

Hey all, I'm struggling to put these in any sort of order. They are obviously all great programs, but I'd like to hear opinions on autonomy, how rigorous the training is, etc. I'll likely subspecialize down the road - probably ID or rheum. Thoughts???

 

[Instatewaiter]

Hey all, I'm struggling to put these in any sort of order. They are obviously all great programs, but I'd like to hear opinions on autonomy, how rigorous the training is, etc. I'll likely subspecialize down the road - probably ID or rheum. Thoughts???

You can't go wrong with any of these programs. The new work hours are going to change the training at almost all of the top tier programs. I can really only speak to Hopkins.

Hopkins is traditionally thought of as one of the most rigorous and one of the most autonomous. On the O (general wards) you are the only one seeing the patients overnight and during the day, you are the one making the decisions. For the most part, you can write your own ticket coming out of Hopkins.

The program is very heavy on Cards and Pulm/Critical care and because of that about 1/2 of the residents go into Cards, 5ish go into Pulmonary Critical care each year. Each year a few go into ID, a few go into Onc and a few go into GI. Very few go into Rheum or endocrine. This year we have 1 person going into rheum and that is a lot. The kind of people who are attracted to Hopkins are also the ones attracted to Cards. The cards teaching just draws people in and converts them to cards.

I don't know too much about the boston programs except what I learned during interview day last year- which wouldn't help you all that much.

I don't think you can go wrong with any of those programs. I'd go with whichever program you feel most comfortable with.

 

[infarct]

You can't go wrong with any of these programs. The new work hours are going to change the training at almost all of the top tier programs. I can really only speak to Hopkins.

Hopkins is traditionally thought of as one of the most rigorous and one of the most autonomous. On the O (general wards) you are the only one seeing the patients overnight and during the day, you are the one making the decisions. For the most part, you can write your own ticket coming out of Hopkins.

The program is very heavy on Cards and Pulm/Critical care and because of that about 1/2 of the residents go into Cards, 5ish go into Pulmonary Critical care each year. Each year a few go into ID, a few go into Onc and a few go into GI. Very few go into Rheum or endocrine. This year we have 1 person going into rheum and that is a lot. The kind of people who are attracted to Hopkins are also the ones attracted to Cards. The cards teaching just draws people in and converts them to cards.

I don't know too much about the boston programs except what I learned during interview day last year- which wouldn't help you all that much.

I don't think you can go wrong with any of those programs. I'd go with whichever program you feel most comfortable with.

for the most part you can write your ticket coming out of ANY of those places. go where the nightlife is the most poppin'

 

[styleandsugar]

Hey all, I'm struggling to put these in any sort of order. They are obviously all great programs, but I'd like to hear opinions on autonomy, how rigorous the training is, etc. I'll likely subspecialize down the road - probably ID or rheum. Thoughts???

I felt, both based on interview and just what I've heard from friends at these programs, that this is how each program falls on the spectrum for each category you listed:

Autonomy (intern year): JHU > MGH > BWH. I think MGH really strikes a nice balance.
Rigorous training: JHU=MGH=BWH. They are all rigorous, but I think how quickly they throw you into acting mostly independently of your senior varies. JHU does it much quicker, MGH in between, BWH you have a senior with you on all call nights. That's not to say that you don't at JHU or MGH, I think the seniors are just stretched a little more thin and are not by your side (i.e. in the same team room) when on call.

You can't go wrong with any of these. For me, JHU is just way to hardcore up front...I would rather be broken into having autonomy more slowly. Some people want the independence right away (or are extremely confident about there abilities) in which case hopkins would be perfect.

At the end of the day, I think they all produce the same end product. So, I'm basing my choice on the residents/location/gut feeling etc...

 

[KeepOnTruckin31]

How does this change since Osler lost their great PD?

 

[jdh71]

Which spots affords the better hookers and blow. The most important questions. The world runs on prostitutes and cocaine, as it should!

 

[CaipirinhaQuinho]

Definitely Hopkins, didn't you watch The Wire?

 

[Instatewaiter]

How does this change since Osler lost their great PD?

The guy who replaced him, is pretty awesome too. He was hopkins housestaff back in the day and is a great guy. He's smart and really goes to bat for the housestaff.

 

[indiamacbean]

hopkins. baltimore sucks but their medical training is awesome.

 

[obiwan]

Which spots affords the better hookers and blow. The most important questions. The world runs on prostitutes and cocaine, as it should!

i could definitely use a lot more hookers and a little less cocaine.

 

[ccmonopolies]

i could definitely use a lot more hookers and a little less cocaine.

can't believe you actually posted that.😱>😎>😀

 

[adagio]

Hahaha, who needs sex and drugs when we have ROCK AND ROLL!!!!!!

 

[jdh71]

Hahaha, who needs sex and drugs when we have ROCK AND ROLL!!!!!!

You have obviously never tried the sex or the drugs 😎

 

[adagio]

Oh, good sir, you obviously never heard steelheart blazing their majestic solos in the middle of the night 😎 😛

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxnGaURm3B8

 

[NDESTRUKT]

All good places, but I'd prefer to be in Boston.

 

[MidWestGeek22]

If only it wasn't Baltimore, I've yet to hear solid things about the city. Hopkins yes, city no :/