Job offer 800k starting

[WeigertMeyer]

Hi this is a job posting..
My group is offering 800k to start, every year for 4 years and then full partner parity making 7 figures. Partners own their own equipment and it's fully physician owned. This is in a major city in the South and you have to be on site. Please DM me if interested!

Another option is Remote employee track which starts at 600k for experienced rads and 450k for new fellows. A couple of weekend calls a year but no nights or evenings. 8 weeks vacation.

Please let me know if interested! Thanks.

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[Neopolymath]

Hi this is a job posting..
My group is offering 800k to start, every year for 4 years and then full partner parity making 7 figures. Partners own their own equipment and it's fully physician owned. This is in a major city in the South and you have to be on site. Please DM me if interested!

Another option is Remote employee track which starts at 600k for experienced rads and 450k for new fellows. A couple of weekend calls a year but no nights or evenings. 8 weeks vacation.

Please let me know if interested! Thanks.

What procedures are required, out of curiosity?

 

[WeigertMeyer]

What procedures are required, out of curiosity?

It is subpecialized.
Neuro-occasional LP, some work from home shifts.
Body-no procedures with a lot of work from home shifts.
Breast-biopsies.
Most of the procedures are done by IR.

 

[odyssey2]

How many RVUs/year?

 

[WeigertMeyer]

Hard to say, I don't have the latest info but it is a high volume practice. All the systems are very very efficient (like PACs, powerscribe templates, loading priors, techs worksheets etc). For instance at my old practice I was only doing half to 1/3 of the volume I am doing now due to technical limitations.

 

[vm26]

How many RVUs/year?

Has to be high volume. Guessing >85th% (probably >18KwRVU's yr)....What is $/wRVU? (more/less will overall summarize the job quality). Many groups and most recruiters have no idea about these numbers.

Biggest obstacle is discrepancy between onsite and tele-rads compensation. Big discount for tele-rads, which as a partner in a local PP I understand. Since I am diagnostics (occasionally breast screeners which needs onsite monitor for now), I am already 85% or so work from home so hard for me to consider a tele-rad job at such a discount, particularly with only 8 weeks vacation.

 

[Ho0v-man]

Hard to say, I don't have the latest info but it is a high volume practice. All the systems are very very efficient (like PACs, powerscribe templates, loading priors, techs worksheets etc). For instance at my old practice I was only doing half to 1/3 of the volume I am doing now due to technical limitations.

So below average vacation and 2-3x the volume of your previous job which I’m sure was still a full time attending job. This sounds like a job very far above 100 RVUs per day.

 

[WeigertMeyer]

So below average vacation and 2-3x the volume of your previous job which I’m sure was still a full time attending job. This sounds like a job very far above 100 RVUs per day.

No my old job was part time actually

 

[Radology]

Hi this is a job posting..
My group is offering 800k to start, every year for 4 years and then full partner parity making 7 figures. Partners own their own equipment and it's fully physician owned. This is in a major city in the South and you have to be on site. Please DM me if interested!

Another option is Remote employee track which starts at 600k for experienced rads and 450k for new fellows. A couple of weekend calls a year but no nights or evenings. 8 weeks vacation.

Please let me know if interested! Thanks.

25-50% pay cut for tele is silly, especially if your “on site” docs get “a lot” of wfh shifts

 

[vm26]

25-50% pay cut for tele is silly, especially if your “on site” docs get “a lot” of wfh shifts

Yes big disconnect out there. Recently pitched a tele-rad position for 3pm-11pm by a Locums recruiter for $350/hour. To be fair RVU/hour was not bad but internally we pay about the same for any day time moonlighting. Evenings/overnights much higher.

 

[Melkor]

Hard to say, I don't have the latest info but it is a high volume practice.

Gotta know your practices rvus, daily average rvus, # of daytime, evening and weekend shifts. That's pp 101. Skirting the question is sus.

Also, why 4 years? Sounds like there will be abuse one way or another.

 

[vm26]

Gotta know your practices rvus, daily average rvus, # of daytime, evening and weekend shifts. That's pp 101. Skirting the question is sus.

Also, why 4 years? Sounds like there will be abuse one way or another.

Absolutely. This day and age, its akin to knowing what you are getting paid per latte working at Starbucks. Also have to have some sense of MGMA data.

4 year partnership is simply discordant with the radiology job market. Way too many risks. Max I would do if I was a new grad would be 18 months, given there was a substantial signing bonus. I won't even go into buy-in which I am guessing is astronomical since senior partners purchased equipment when it still made sense (around 15-20 years ago)

 

[Womb Raider]

4 years is terrible. I found a PP job in the south with 1 year partnership track with partners making 7 figures and no buy-in (group doesn’t own equipment though). A lot can happen in 4 years to screw you over.

Some things I would want to know as an applicant:
- how much money is the imaging equipment/non professional fee income bringing in for the partners?
- what is buy in for the equipment?
- are there different tiers of partners?
- is there “mandatory” moonlighting for associates?
- daily and annual wRVU averages, preferably by my subspecialty
- this would allow you to calculate $/wRVU. Most southern practices achieve high salary numbers by grinding insane RVUs rather than having a good payor mix/hospital subsidy.
- does workload/producticity expectations change after becoming partner?
- how many people make partner that want to? (I would try to search for people that recently left and figure out why)
- what are daytime working hours and what the commute(s) are like
- is it easy to buy/sell vacation? 8 weeks vacation is very bad in a high volume practice
- what kind of preference do partners get for vacation given 4 year partnership track. Am I working 4 Christmas’s in a row?
- would they be willing to sign PE buyout protection clause in my contract
- is there a relatively balanced age distribution in the practice? Heavily tilted toward older rads is a bad sign.

Unless the non-pro fee side is just absolutely insane I see no reason to take a 4 year track job in this market. Too many other good jobs out there and lots of horror stories of people getting screwed right before making partner.

 

[Steve_Zissou]

4 years is terrible. I found a PP job in the south with 1 year partnership track with partners making 7 figures and no buy-in (group doesn’t own equipment though). A lot can happen in 4 years to screw you over.

Some things I would want to know as an applicant:
- how much money is the imaging equipment/non professional fee income bringing in for the partners?
- what is buy in for the equipment?
- are there different tiers of partners?
- is there “mandatory” moonlighting for associates?
- daily and annual wRVU averages, preferably by my subspecialty
- this would allow you to calculate $/wRVU. Most southern practices achieve high salary numbers by grinding insane RVUs rather than having a good payor mix/hospital subsidy.
- does workload/producticity expectations change after becoming partner?
- how many people make partner that want to? (I would try to search for people that recently left and figure out why)
- what are daytime working hours and what the commute(s) are like
- is it easy to buy/sell vacation? 8 weeks vacation is very bad in a high volume practice
- what kind of preference do partners get for vacation given 4 year partnership track. Am I working 4 Christmas’s in a row?
- would they be willing to sign PE buyout protection clause in my contract
- is there a relatively balanced age distribution in the practice? Heavily tilted toward older rads is a bad sign.

Unless the non-pro fee side is just absolutely insane I see no reason to take a 4 year track job in this market. Too many other good jobs out there and lots of horror stories of people getting screwed right before making partner.

What’s the workload like at the place you signed?

 

[Womb Raider]

What’s the workload like at the place you signed?

12 week vacation as associate, 12-15 as partner. 10-12 call weekends a year. No nights. No procedures. No mammo unless you want. Avg daily wRVU 75-80. Higher on call weekends, around 100.

 

[Steve_Zissou]

12 week vacation as associate, 12-15 as partner. 10-12 call weekends a year. No nights. No procedures. No mammo unless you want. Avg daily wRVU 75-80. Higher on call weekends, around 100.

That seems like a pretty solid deal. I'm looking for chiller work for less pay when I get to applying, but your setup seems real solid.

 

[vm26]

12 week vacation as associate, 12-15 as partner. 10-12 call weekends a year. No nights. No procedures. No mammo unless you want. Avg daily wRVU 75-80. Higher on call weekends, around 100.

Sounds like a solid deal but I am guesstimating >18K for wRVU productivity? I think 90th% is around 16-17k for MGMA (2023 data)

 

[Womb Raider]

Sounds like a solid deal but I am guesstimating >18K for wRVU productivity? I think 90th% is around 16-17k for MGMA (2023 data)

I think it's closer to 17-17.5k.

 

[jambro]

12 week vacation as associate, 12-15 as partner. 10-12 call weekends a year. No nights. No procedures. No mammo unless you want. Avg daily wRVU 75-80. Higher on call weekends, around 100.

are call weekends both days or 1? how much remote?

 

[Womb Raider]

are call weekends both days or 1? how much remote?

Call is both days and remote. Most weekdays are in person but have occasional remote.

 

[DarkHorizon]

12 week vacation as associate, 12-15 as partner. 10-12 call weekends a year. No nights. No procedures. No mammo unless you want. Avg daily wRVU 75-80. Higher on call weekends, around 100.

How much are you making with this set up (the ballpark figure) I always wonder when I hear this.

 

[Radology]

Our setup is similar (10 weekends call, evening shifts but no overnights, 12-14 weeks off depending on staffing). make around 800k as partner