Just took DAT--what I thought

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I am rather new to the dental forum. I was pre-med and then switched to pre-dent. I am applying for the 2004 class. I really enjoy reading everybody's post. They are very informative and they have guided me well.

I recently took the DAT and thought I would give people some subjective feedback. All-in-all I agree with Freddy---by the way, awesome job Freddy, your scores are great.

My turn-out:
ACADAVG: 21
PERCEP: 19
QUANT: 18
READING: 20
CHEM: 19
BIO: 21
ORGO: 25
TOTAL SCI: 21

READING- Top-Score was very accurate with respect to the passage-type and questions. There were only a couple "thinking" questions, however. I was pleased that the passages were about material I already knew about, and I hope it is the same for others who have yet to take it. I don't recommned using already-established knowledge to answer questions, however this knowledge is great for an educated guess. My strategy was very effective. For some history on myself, I have never done well on standardized tests. I truly made the extra effort for this DAT and I stuck with my strategies that I used while studying.
My approach at the reading comprehension was that I read the topic sentences of each paragragh first to "map-out" the passage sort of speak. For example--I would keep something of this sort in the back of my mind---"paragragh one is on prevention, paragragh two is on diagnosis, etc." Then I answered each question. This method gave be ~1min per question. I personally believe reading the whole passage is a big mistake, unless you're are a super fast reader. It was imperitive for me to be scientific with the passage. As applicants to dental schools, we are all scientists in our own way. Search for key words in the question stem and focus on that word while frantically scanning the passage for it. It worked for me---however use what works for you.


BIOLOGY: I studied with old text books and used kaplan as time was running out. Cell-related questons, enzymology, cellular respiration, genetics, ecology, and evolution are important areas (recommended) to know---just the basics and not too detailed. I felt like the DAT was written for someone who has not been in school for a while. For recent graduates and soon-to-be graduates, you will find a lot of DAT stuff to be second nature. It was for me with the questions and I believe you don't have much to worry about here.

GENCHEM: Do not forget to know concepts for this. All I can say is that I used the periodic table only one time. Stoichiometry, MORE stoichiometry, and MORE stoichiometry. Study stoichiometry. Top-Score was on the mark with this section 100%, as well as Lipocott, Williams, and Wilkins DAT The Science of Review. Similarly, Exam Krackers 1001 MCAT Chem question is a must have!

ORGO: BUY EXAM KRACKERS 1001 MCAT questions in orgo. I felt like the DAT was a carbon copy of this book. I made it up to question 700 somehting, and this book is solid gold. Please buy this book. You can get it online at www.examkrackers.com. It shipped to me in 2 days. I freaked out during the exam because on question 91 my computer wigged out, scrolled up-and-down at warp speed and jumped to the review your marked-answers screen. I recommend studying first semester stuff a lot, however do not neglect the other stuff. That would be foolish.

MATH: Top-Score was close for the most part. However, the permutations on Top-Score were a litte unecessary. Yor "basic" algebra manipulation questions and percentages are important to know--as well as how to manipulate trigonometric functions. QUANT was my lowest score, however I am prouud of it considering I have never been math oriented.

PERCEP: The angles are impossible. The pixels on the screen are as such that the angles don't look proportional on the screen. My parallel method worked, as well as comparing each angle with the X-axis. All the other perceptual ability questions are similar in dfficulty to Kaplan, Barron's, and others. I recommend using Barron's to study for this section.

Well that is my review of the DAT. When you feel like giving up because your are getting very bored, anxious, upset, and everything else, remember we are all going through it together. Our goal to be dentists is all we need to keep motivated. The potential to practice in the field of dentistry is worth the many hours studying. When you get anxious while studying, just remember what you are doing it for---it is well worth it! The mere act of being on SDN displays your committment to this wonderful field. Gook Luck!
 
Congratulations on your score. your post inspired me because I too am not a very good standardized test taker. Do you mind my asking when you started studying and how many hours per week did you put in? What was your daily schedule like?

Also, what is the parallel method you described in regards to the angle ranking on the PAT?
 
I startied studying on around May 15th. I studied for about 8hours a day. I kind made it a full time job----only because I know how I have and have not done with respect to studying for standarized testes befor. Here is one typical day:
-Study two hours 9-11
-Go to the Y to work out from 1130-1230.
-Come home, eat and take a 30min break.
-Study from 1-5.
-I generally did two subjects a day.
-Since ORGO was a more relaxed subject to study (meaning no real written work necessary) I did math the same day.
- I really want to stress that I actually studied per say very little. I did question after question.

-Orgo: Used only Exam Krackers and looked in text if I did not understand. I did this for reducing surgars for example. Reviewed flasch cards in bed.

-Genchem: Exam Krackers and class text book study guide. Reviewed flash cards in bed.

-Bio: I bought a "Test Yourself in Biology" book which introuced the chapter and then had tons of question per chapter. Reviewed flash cards in bed.

-Percep: I just did the same questions over and over again. I also bought an ASVAB mecanical and spatial skill book to help with cube counting and pattern folding. I used whatever I had at my disposal over and over again.

-Reading: I simply used what I had until I ran out (Barron's, Top-Score, Kaplan, Liponcott WIlliams, and Wilkins---just tried to maseter my strategy.

-Math: GRE math book and I wet online and look at word problem lessons. It turs out that agr, coins, distance, and percentage questions are quite common topics to be taught. I don't remember learning them though. I had relly only had algebra and trig on my test. It is better to be over-prepared though.

As for a set schedule, I really did not use one. I was very dynamic and studied what I woke up and felt like studying. However, I pretty much studied in pairs as I said above. I was going insane after studying for so long, so I rescheduled my DAT a week early. It really was not that bad at all. The study guides over-prepared me, which I am sure is their goal.
Here is the angle strategy I used:

ANGELS:
This may or may not help but I find it to be very effective in discriminating angles--it is a strategy not listed in prep-books (some may be)

1) mentally mesure each angle relative to the X-axis. Having a reference point for comparison really helps.

2) for angles that are intentionally similar, look at the leg lengths--clearly, the choice with the longer legs will be the smaller angle for angles that seem the same.

3) for angles that are very very very close (which, on the actual DAT they are) look for parallel lines. Say you have choices a), b), c), and d). Most of the time it is easy to discriminate the exremes, but for those that are tough, stay cognizant of whether of not the different choices have legs that are parallel to each other. Say the top leg of the angle in choice a) is parallel with the top leg on the angle in choice c). Ask yourself if the other legs will intersect. By mentally noting what you would have to do to make the other legs parallel to each other (or not intersect) will tell you which angle is bigger or smaller relative to the other. The leg doing the intersecting is the leg that is on the smaller angle. The test makers do things like putting legs parallel to each other to give the test-taker another path with which to solve the problem. In summary, with angles that are really close in measurement, look for:

1) leg-length disparity-----the longer legs are on the shorter angle for angles that seem ridiculously close.
2) parallel legs-----what leg is doing the intersecting and ask yourself what you would have to do to make the other legs parallel as well.

Hope it helps a little.

-Richard
 
I forgot to mention that Princeton Review AP chemistry and REA (Research and Education Association) AP Biology helped me big time. The REA book has about 6 AP biology tests in it that are pretty much the EXACT same as the DAT.

-Richard
 
I was just wondering how long the Dat is and what's it out of.

Thanks a bunch
 
Where did you purchase the REA AP bio book? I couldn't find it on Amazon?
 
Originally posted by Dentaldream
Just out of curiousity, do you get the results from the U.S Dat immediately after you write it??
yes, you get the results right after you finish the exam
 
I bought the book at Barnes & Noble. I am sure you can buy hte book at www.rea.com. It has a cd with it too.
 
Spectacular Score!!! congratulations! :clap:
and thanks for the wonderful tips!
I think I will get the AP bio book for review , bio is my weakest part. I am trying to memorize the kaplan book, will that be sufficient enough?
and I am soooooo glad to know that no one can finish reading the 3 boring passages and finishing questions on time🙂 I was so worried though I have always been considered as a fast reader.
 
I appreciate everyone's kind comments🙂 🙂 🙂

Lucy, I felt like the Kaplan book was a great resource, however I dont think it should be the only thing you use. Certain sections, like Ecology and genetics for example are pretty weak in Kaplan. I feel like Kaplan uses the same stuff over and over again. If you happen look at the Kaplan MCAT Biology topics you will notice that they are the same, with the exception of Plant stuff, Ecology, and diversity, as the DAT Kaplan book. (They just want to make more money) The MCAT biology does not demand one to know specific facts as the DAT does. The Kaplan MCAT Bio is sufficient for MCAT takers, as the MCAT is an application test. With the DAT, we need to know all the details, not the broad overviews. That being said, I recommend using old text books if you have any or go to a college bookstore nearby and ask for an out-dated BIO edition. I bought one for $10. In the texts you will get all the details you need, and the Kaplan book is useful for zooming over the topics to ensure you have the BASIC facts. Good luck to you!

-Richard
 
THe REA AP Biology book is no longer in print. I managed to order a used copy. So I would check used book stores.

HOWEVER

You can purchase the AP biology exam full length exam from the college board. Just go to amazon.com and type AP, Biology. Just scroll near the bottom of the choices and you will see it. They publish an old chemistry exam as well. I bought both of those. These were real exams that were offerred in the past.

In addition, go to ETS' website. They are the organization that produces the GRE. They offer a FREE full length sample exam (130 questions) each on biology and chemistry. You have to have adobe acrobat reader to download. If you don't have adobe acrobat, just download that free. Each exam is like 59 pages. It could be excessive. But I would definitely go with the AP tests.
 
I just went to Barnes and Noble and indeed rsweeny was correct. The REA AP biology book is available as is it's chemistry version.

For those of you who need some spoonfeeding on biology and chemistry, there are several options

Level I - SAT II Biology and Chemistry (Princeton Review)
Level II - AP Biology and Chemistry books (Princeton Review)
Level III- GRE Biology and Chemistry (kaplan)

I think the AP books are the most appropriate for the DAT. GRE kind of goes in excess but they are still great for extra practice. I would recommend the SAT II Biology and Chemistry books if you haven't had your pre-req's in a while. They are a great review and they go over steps that are implied in the more advanced books.
 
Mcat,

Have you taken the DAT yet?
 
is the DAT a computerized exam? if it is, i had no idea...
 
Hey buddy, great info it's really helpful.
Do you think just using examcrackers for orgo is enough or you really need teh Kaplan book? I find taht the kaplan has a lot of reactions that I've never seen before and seem too much for the DAT. what do you think?
 
Originally posted by Barry20
Mcat,

Have you taken the DAT yet?

nor mcataz or I have taken the DAT yet. I am planning to take it 11/22. Sure taking it late may hurt my chances at some schools but its easier to justify a late score than a bad one. Didn't Yah-e take his in January. He got into a few schools.
 
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