Kaplan vs. Princeton review course

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Smyle4Jenn

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I graduated from college a year ago and need to take the MCAT this April. I'm planning on taking a review course by either Princeton or Kaplan, but am not sure which course is better. I know that Princeton offers more classroom hours. Can people critque their review courses and provide a recommendation?
 
I loved the Princeton Review and would highly recommend it.

The classroom teachers did vary slightly. My verbal teacher and my g-chem/physics teachers were so good I wondered how TPR was able to recruite and retain teachers of that caliber. They were among the best teachers I ever had. My bio teacher was a good teacher and it was very clear that he took a personal interest in the individual students, but he hadn't been teaching quite as long and was just great, not unbelieveable. The organic teacher on the other hand... I never had a class with her, because military deployments just happened to conflict, but the rest of the class said she was unprepared and disorganized. They mentioned that to the management and she wasn't at the next class. TPR was very responsive to the criticism and replaced the teacher instantly. Our new teacher was good, but I suck at OChem, so it seemed like she went a million miles an hour. I still learned a lot, it was just overwhelming.

The material was strong. It was enough for me to refresh 10 year old subjects to the point that I feel like I learned more for the MCAT in 3 mos. of TPR than 4 years of college.

I took the MCAT in 1994 with no prep and scored 31. 10 years later, 8 of those out of school w/ no day to day science work and I scored a 36. TPR helped me improve 5 points from a real MCAT despite 8 years away from school.

Great program.
 
I'm in tpr right now, and I like the program, i just need to catch up with my homework. AHHHHHHH
 
Do you think you need to be taught everything, or do you think that you need more practice time on your own. Not that it is as simple as that, but that's probably the best way to think about it. I'm taking Kaplan, so I don't know much about the TPR stuff. Now that I have seen what the course is like, I am glad I am in Kaplan because I would not want to be sitting in class for another 50 hours more than I did with Kaplan. Even if TPR has better teaching, I just don't benefit much from classroom instruction. I seriously feel like at least 95% of the time I spent in the classroom was wasted and I could have been learning more on my own. Depending on how much you already know and how well you can learn on your own, you may feel like the classroom time is important for you. I've also heard that the teaching varies widely from place to place. What I will say is that I could teach the class better than my teacher. I think Kaplan doesn't make it tough enough on the teachers because they basically just give them a sheet with the day's lesson on it and then the teachers just go through the lesson exactly as it is planned out on their sheet. This basically means that they don't have to really know the material, they only need to know what is on the sheet. So if you have a question that is not included in the lesson for the day, forget about it. And the problem is, no matter how high these people scored on the MCAT, a lot of them are 1 or 2 years removed from studying at a minimum. How much do they really remember when all they are required to learn is what is on the lesson sheet? I'm not sure if TPR is tougher on the teachers, but again, this probably varies widely from place to place. But I have definitely enjoyed all of the materials, and if you decide for yourself that you are going to make the most of what they provide for you, I think Kaplan is a very useful tool. You will have access to about 15-17 practice tests, 45 topical tests (MCAT style tests for each topic in the review notes), around 30 section tests (total for PS, VR, and BS) and then some other stuff that I didn't find as useful. But at any rate, that is a ton of material. I'm not sure what TPR gives, but I have heard that it is also quite abundant, although slightly less than what Kaplan provides. Not sure how it is organized, either. And I think the flashcards are good (not overly important, but nice to have when you are on the go) and there is a formula sheet which basically tells you exactly what you should remember and what will be provided for you (you can probably find that somewhere else). I like the stuff they taught us about the writing sample too, but that is definitely not worth taking a class for, just thought I would throw that in since I'm trying to think of everything I can. In all, I'm happy with Kaplan. It has been everything I expected and it's nice to have so many practice tests at my disposal. I think if I had it to do over again I would still choose Kaplan, but that is mostly because I don't like class time very much. I think I can learn more on my own in 50 hours than I could possibly be taught in an extra 50 hours of class time. But if I had come into this class expecting to be taught a lot in class, I would probably be quite disappointed in what I have learned from Kaplan because the classroom lessons have not been very impressive to me. If you think you want to learn more from the teaching in the course, TPR is probably the best choice for you. I'm tired from all this rambling and I can't think of much else to add. So if you think of any other questions let me know. PM me or just ask on here.
 
willthatsall said:
Do you think you need to be taught everything, or do you think that you need more practice time on your own. Not that it is as simple as that, but that's probably the best way to think about it. I'm taking Kaplan, so I don't know much about the TPR stuff.

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Do TPR. Will actually has some good points in there. I want to add that TPR DOES have a formula sheet like Kaplan does, except ours is already in the Physical Sciences review book so you don't have to go begging to find it.

The ONLY drawback I will tell you we have are the flashcards, but this isn't a reason to take the Kaplan course. I really think TPR has the finest materials in the industry, and undoubtedly the best instructors.
 
Thank you for the great reviews of both courses. I read a few reviews on eOpinions and the consensus is that Princeton tends to have more qualified teachers and as a result the classroom time is helpful, whereas most students who took Kaplan thought the advantage was in the resources such as the topical tests and the Kaplan Center, but felt that classroom time was a waste b/c the teaching was mediocre.

I think I need both the teaching and alone time to learn the materials. There's so much material that I'm afraid I won't learn it all through Kaplan, which has fewer sessions. At the same time, I don't want to waste my time sitting in class if I take a Princeton course.

I think everyone agrees that perhaps the most important thing is that you take as many practice tests as possible. I think both Kaplan and Princeton provide 5 practice tests, but Kaplan also provides its students with topical tests. Are the topical tests included in the Kaplan materials or are they only available at the center? I've read that sometimes the topical questions don't resemble MCAT questions. Any thoughts?
 
Smyle4Jenn said:
Thank you for the great reviews of both courses. I read a few reviews on eOpinions and the consensus is that Princeton tends to have more qualified teachers and as a result the classroom time is helpful, whereas most students who took Kaplan thought the advantage was in the resources such as the topical tests and the Kaplan Center, but felt that classroom time was a waste b/c the teaching was mediocre.

I think I need both the teaching and alone time to learn the materials. There's so much material that I'm afraid I won't learn it all through Kaplan, which has fewer sessions. At the same time, I don't want to waste my time sitting in class if I take a Princeton course.

I think everyone agrees that perhaps the most important thing is that you take as many practice tests as possible. I think both Kaplan and Princeton provide 5 practice tests, but Kaplan also provides its students with topical tests. Are the topical tests included in the Kaplan materials or are they only available at the center? I've read that sometimes the topical questions don't resemble MCAT questions. Any thoughts?

Topical tests along with most other tests are available online AND available at the center.

Also Kaplan has total of 11 Full Length tests. I am not familiar with TPR.
 
pateltr1 said:
Topical tests along with most other tests are available online AND available at the center.

Also Kaplan has total of 11 Full Length tests. I am not familiar with TPR.


Kaplan has 11 full lengths of their own and they also have the AAMC tests, so they have about 15 or 16 total. And then they have a ton of topical and section tests. TPR proctors like 5 I think and then they have the tests they give you to do on your own (A-D), which I heard are really hard. John Holmes has experience with both, so if he says TPR, maybe you should listen to him. I have a question though. How does JohnHolmes take Kaplan, get a 43 on the MCAT, and then decide TPR is better? I guess he would have gotten a perfect score with TPR? Traitor! :meanie:
 
I didn't know John Holmes took both courses. He didn't mention that in the review. So in terms of the number of practice tests and questions, Kaplan has an advantage.
 
I took TPR for the MCAT and Kaplan for my SAT. For my money (exactly $1400) of it, I'd prefer TPR. I liked the location and felt more at ease there. Also, I actually learned a lot of stuff from TPR books and reviews whereas my KAPLAN experience merely left me with fancy names for strategies we already use. Yeah like I gotta pay money to learn "process of elimination" is the name of the strategy where you reasonably eliminate wrong answers until you reach the right one. Also, the TPR gives you a buttload of practice materials. They give you the Yellow Page sized Science workbook, 72 verbal passages, and Practice A-D tests. Although the A-D tests are recommended only if you are a sadist.
 
The issue of practice material is bogus. If you can't get through all of TPR's materials you are a maniac. You have acess to >10 practice tests, including two AAMC tests, 4 additional verbal tests plus about 30 additional verbal passages, (thats three more tests), and the science workbook that is >600 pages long.

Trust me, you won't run out of material. If you don't want to sit in class that much, don't go. (This is your choice, but you won't get a refund if you bomb the real deal, or a redo) TPR material is far superior to KAPLAN.

Make your choice wisely, but pick TPR. I like it and I would reccommend it.
 
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