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I've been reading posts about people applying to medical schools and I see alot of people say that "I want to get into this top school, this is my dream school".
My question is, don't med schools all teach the same material? What's the difference between a "top med school" vs a "low tier med school"?
Stupid question I know, I'm kinda clueless :/
 
"Top tier" is a designation related to research funding. If one doesn't want to be a biomedical researcher in a powerhouse academic position, then any other med school in the country will do, because they all teach the same material and provide you with the same privileges following graduation. This has actually been discussed quite a bit.

If a doc is all you want to be, any state or private MD or DO school will get you where you want to be.
 
I've been reading posts about people applying to medical schools and I see alot of people say that "I want to get into this top school, this is my dream school".
My question is, don't med schools all teach the same material? What's the difference between a "top med school" vs a "low tier med school"?
Stupid question I know, I'm kinda clueless :/
Its also a matter of ego and personal expectation (much of which is generally unrealistic).

All US MD schools (maybe with the exception of Northstate) are essentially going to produce equal clinicians. Research, however, will be very diverse.
 
"Top tier" is a designation related to research funding. If one doesn't want to be a biomedical researcher in a powerhouse academic position, then any other med school in the country will do, because they all teach the same material and provide you with the same privileges following graduation. This has actually been discussed quite a bit.

If a doc is all you want to be, any state or private MD or DO school will get you where you want to be.

This is not entirely true.

Your first two years (sometimes 1.5 years) of medical school are classroom based learning. It is very similar at most schools with slight modifications about how much PBL or other 'types' of learning the school integrates in the place of some lecture. The quality of the education is seen as relatively similar because the curriculum are relatively similar. They all teach at least a little bit toward Step 1, which you take after your second year. Other than helping you prepare for Step 1 and laying the framework for everything after, your first two years of medical school are largely irrelevant for residency and beyond.

Third and fourth year are clerkship based or in other words clinical. The quality of education varies significantly. Take a gander at the allopathic forum. People complain left and right about poor rotations, bad preceptors, lack of resources etc. While a 'top' school is not immune from those things, the education is different at different schools. And yes, it does matter. The starting quality of interns is a reflection of who they are, first and foremost, but also what they have done their last two years in medical school. It is astonishing the number that show up and an H&P is difficult or organizing several patients is difficult. These are skills that take time and practice to develop. If a school doesn't set reasonable expectations and have the infrastructure or culture to push students along, they don't develop. This makes for people that are just terrible coming out of medical school.

Yes, you will be a doctor coming out of any MD or DO school, but do not kid yourself. I am one of the largest proponents on this forum about no matter where you go to school (MD) you can end up in just about any residency. But, it does matter to a certain extent, not just for the reasons above. A lot of residency matching in the more competitive fields or at more competitive institutions is about networking. We call the letter writers of every single applicant we are seriously interested in. Granted we are in a smaller specialty and can do something like that, but who people know matters and coming out of a powerhouse is going to do you favors down the road. Couple that with the fact that many schools are feeders for certain residencies (think HMS feeding MGH, B&W, BID), there are very good reasons to want to go to the 'best school' that you can.

All of this having been said, most pre-meds have no idea what "top school" means and the concept of a "dream school" is a little silly. The vast majority of those people are being driven by parents, ego, misinformation etc.
 
Its also a matter of ego and personal expectation (much of which is generally unrealistic).

All US MD schools (maybe with the exception of Northstate) are essentially going to produce equal clinicians. Research, however, will be very diverse.

Yea... well MD schools are about impossible to get into nowadays. You need a 47 MCAT and a 7.42 GPA to stand a chance.
 
Its also a matter of ego and personal expectation (much of which is generally unrealistic).

All US MD schools (maybe with the exception of Northstate) are essentially going to produce equal clinicians. Research, however, will be very diverse.

I would avoid making broad sweeping statements like this if you don't have direct experience with the clinical quality that comes out of medical schools or a source to back it up.
 
I would avoid making broad sweeping statements like this if you don't have direct experience with the clinical quality that comes out of medical schools or a source to back it up.
Noted.

Would you disagree though? From many interactions with physicians during my research+shadowing+clinical experiences, and my own parents (one went to top tier, one went to branch of state med), I've been told repeatedly that patient care quality is often essentially equal between any US allo program; hence my generalization above.

I'd love to hear a contrasting viewpoint on this.
 
Just like what the previous posters said there shouldn't be a top vs non top anything in medical school since its already hard to get into one but the truth of the matter is that there is

I personally think your top medical school or dream school should be a personal choice not just the fact that its high on some ranking but if this school has exactly what you need or exactly the type of program you are interested in etc. That should be your personal top school, kinda makes no sense to go to Harvard med and try their global health program if my state school has a better global health program (this is an example)
 
“Dream schools are like dream girls: better in the abstract than reality”. –The exceptionally wise gyngyn



All of this having been said, most pre-meds have no idea what "top school" means and the concept of a "dream school" is a little silly. The vast majority of those people are being driven by parents, ego, misinformation etc.
 
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