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@JaggedJimmyJay i have read your posts now but my brain is way too tired to process

i will keep my vote on Dina, out of courtesy, even though I still think you are more likely to be wolf than town tbh, just because i am a masochist
 
Day 2 Yeet Tally
Wilgy (2) - Pippy 30, Dina 11
Boq () -
Dina (3) - Boq 65, Wilgy 39, samac 55
mighty () -
JJJ (4) - mighty 24, Zenge 11, mayo 36, moth 20
moon () -
mayo (3) - Nate 49, JJJ 108, moon 35

12/13
yeet close in ~5 hours
 
yeah sorry everyone, i need to sleep

i am staying on Dina because I think it is a wolf approach to be apologetic to pushes and shade but it might also be a personality thing
I think JJJ has scum equity still and plays like he usually does as a wolf so eh

goodnight
 
Boquise said:
What do you make of that everyone who participated in your game yesterday in real time decided that dubz was town, yet dubz got yeeted? I was super close to put scum but thought she had posted well enough to "deserve" a gth town read.

How do you think the wolves saw the thread atmosphere after? Imo they probably felt like Dubz was not in danger? Like the only person who voted her earlier was me and I looked like a madman. So I wonder if there is not some sort of comfy in the wolf thread right after the game, that should maybe have been changed to a subtle panic when she was gaining the votes?
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I have a feeling the mafia team felt great about that GTH exercise. It probably made them feel decent about the atmosphere of the game; however, given the "reading card" dynamics of the SDN meta... they were probably still just waiting for Zenge to take a stance on Dubz and chewing their nails over it. Even if non-SDN people are in the wolf chat with her, she probably told them that Zenge could catch her.

DrWilgy said:
Can I have some thoughts on Moon? Someone talk to me about that slot.
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I think she generally sounds earnest in her posts, and I appreciate the efforts she has made to provide them. Her reads are extremely against-the-grain, and that isn't necessarily a problem. But I am a little befuddled that she town read me immediately on Day 2 after having voted me on Day 1. That progression would be remarkably lucid if she is town, and I will give her twelve cookies after the game if that turns out to be the case. But I can't help but feel iffy about it.

I wish I could be more concrete, but I've no experience with moonster and hesitate to draw strong conclusions.
 
NateTheLesser said:
I certainly have concerns about Jay that I don't want to ignore, either. As I mentioned I've almost entirely seen him up close as a wolf and the one time he wasn't it was a situation where we couldn't work together, so I'm never sure if what I'm expecting from his town game is realistic (maybe Wilgy can shed light on this). But what I've noticed in hindsight in his wolf games is that he produces town reads, and produces the building blocks of a "town core" (his GTH exercises, deep dives on interactions), but doesn't actually want a town core to form so he doesn't directly engage much with his town reads to put those blocks together.
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Thoughts on this @DrWilgy and thoughts on Boq's similarities he sees between Jay here and w!Jay in Halvosen Ridge, since you were also in that game. And I guess thoughts on Jay in general since you're more familiar with him than most of us.
 
NateTheLesser said:
Thoughts on this @DrWilgy and thoughts on Boq's similarities he sees between Jay here and w!Jay in Halvosen Ridge, since you were also in that game. And I guess thoughts on Jay in general since you're more familiar with him than most of us.
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NateTheLesser said:
I certainly have concerns about Jay that I don't want to ignore, either. As I mentioned I've almost entirely seen him up close as a wolf and the one time he wasn't it was a situation where we couldn't work together, so I'm never sure if what I'm expecting from his town game is realistic (maybe Wilgy can shed light on this). But what I've noticed in hindsight in his wolf games is that he produces town reads, and produces the building blocks of a "town core" (his GTH exercises, deep dives on interactions), but doesn't actually want a town core to form so he doesn't directly engage much with his town reads to put those blocks together.
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Aye, I think I stated previously how I think to read Jay. You have to look for where they are setting up to be incorrect.

W Jay is very good about forming a town core without supporting it. Providing just enough for that core to be lightly pocketed.

What this results in is W JJJ having to maneuver around his reads and if you can see where they've put someone aside to be misyeeted, that's where you'll catch him.

I do think it often requires the PoE to be decreased for that to happen too. Right now, I wouldn't bet on my ability to catch W JJJ, at least until other variables are dealt with.

Now, mind you my understanding of W JJJ came literally at the cost of my own life, losing a game against him where I was VERY close to yeeting him at 3 am but ran out of brain cells to think and fell asleep.
 
NateTheLesser said:
I certainly have concerns about Jay that I don't want to ignore, either. As I mentioned I've almost entirely seen him up close as a wolf and the one time he wasn't it was a situation where we couldn't work together, so I'm never sure if what I'm expecting from his town game is realistic (maybe Wilgy can shed light on this). But what I've noticed in hindsight in his wolf games is that he produces town reads, and produces the building blocks of a "town core" (his GTH exercises, deep dives on interactions), but doesn't actually want a town core to form so he doesn't directly engage much with his town reads to put those blocks together.
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What I suppose I'm saying is your assessment I think is accurate.
 
As it currently stands, I still think Dina is better. Jay is fine though, I'd probably still cry after regardless of flip because it's Jay, but only for a few hours.
 
I think I can see why Mayo is fine, but it doesn't solve the oddities I saw in VCA so meh.
 
NateTheLesser said:
Only 2 votes moved off Mayo, one was Pippy moving to Dubz, the other was moonster unvoting and eventually going JJJ. There was never really a viable cw after Dubz got run up.

More significant to me is Dubz not voting there when Mayo was the main cw (she went back to Pippy instead).
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WIFOM time but wolf dubz isn’t like IMMA BUSSSSS
but she also will bus if she has to.
In a situation where it would be W/W wagons I don’t see any reason for her to vote off her partner.
 
samac said:
WIFOM time but wolf dubz isn’t like IMMA BUSSSSS
but she also will bus if she has to.
In a situation where it would be W/W wagons I don’t see any reason for her to vote off her partner.
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To put it another way, if Mayo's town that seems like it would have been an easy self pres vote. He's the only real cw and she already had him as a wolf read (the GTH exercise and her general POE). But instead she put a 2nd vote back on Pippy. I can certainly come up with reasons, like sticking with who she'd already been voting so she doesn't make too many people look good if she flips. But that plus Mayo's sudden Dubz suspicion and tying her to Jay makes me narrow my eyes. Anyway.

I need to take another look at Dina in the time we have left, since a lot of the people I currently trust have concerns there.
 
samac said:
I SAID 5 BUCKS PSV DIES TONIGHT YOU DIDNT TAKE IT
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There was nothing in that statement indicating you wanted to place a wager with the house.

Boquise said:
i will read your posts, i think
i am very tired but i am also waiting for a package that is never arriving
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smh idk how you expect me to send you a package when you haven’t decided on its contents
 
NateTheLesser said:
To put it another way, if Mayo's town that seems like it would have been an easy self pres vote. He's the only real cw and she already had him as a wolf read (the GTH exercise and her general POE). But instead she put a 2nd vote back on Pippy. I can certainly come up with reasons, like sticking with who she'd already been voting so she doesn't make too many people look good if she flips. But that plus Mayo's sudden Dubz suspicion and tying her to Jay makes me narrow my eyes. Anyway.

I need to take another look at Dina in the time we have left, since a lot of the people I currently trust have concerns there.
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It ended 7 on dubz and 2 on mayo though. She put her vote somewhere safe on pippy and by the time she returned there wasn’t a reason to move back.
Zenge142 said:
I’m sorry! It’s been a busy day!

Ask me anything!
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WHAT YOU VEEN BUSY WITH
DRIVING THE BUS OVER YOUR PACKMATE?!?!?!?1!1!1?1?1
 
samac said:
Dubz wagon least to most sus after sitting and chewing on it.
Zenges
Pippy
Boq
Wilgy
Dina

I know staying focused on the dubz wagon is too narrow a gaze I just can’t help but feel it’s a narrow pool in which to find a wolf.

I also keep getting more and more worried about moon and I don’t have words to put behind it. I just am.
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I kind of feel like Dina is the least suspicious here because of how sketchy the vote actually was. If I remember correctly, she said something like "yeet Dubz, seems fun," which if you're a wolf is like...a really spontaneous and sketchy way to jump on a bus. More likely to be a villager who is not caught up and is ready to sheep the thread leaders.

I think I agree with the moon feels and I should probably do an iso.
 
PippyPony said:
I kind of feel like Dina is the least suspicious here because of how sketchy the vote actually was. If I remember correctly, she said something like "yeet Dubz, seems fun," which if you're a wolf is like...a really spontaneous and sketchy way to jump on a bus. More likely to be a villager who is not caught up and is ready to sheep the thread leaders.

I think I agree with the moon feels and I should probably do an iso.
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Dina is not the least suspicious before zenges

But it depends on if wolf Dina was busy or not tbh
 
holdthemayo said:
I post as i catch up. I gave the caveat when I joined the game that if I ask a question that is already answered or after you are dead, there is no need to answer it.
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Yeah you're good; I mean no animosity. I just think it's suboptimal for me to say anything else about that.
 
well time to break my reads list up into an obnoxious amount of posts (sorry)
 
2. mightyrunner7 - null - idk I feel like his only contribution this game has been pushing JJJ. I was confused about why he was being so widely village read last cycle, but I guess it was partially a change in tone from last game? I did vibe with some of the reads list he posted today so there's that
 
3. NateTheLesser - Leaning village d/t dubz snap voting him, like his analysis today even if I don't completely agree with the mayo push I can follow the logic he's presenting
 
4. JaggedJimmyJay - Leaning wolf, but confused, interactions with dubz lean wolf, but I'm getting caught up on the PSV kill, just seems like a weird choice if JJJ is a wolf when PSV was so heavily village reading him
 
samac said:
WHAT YOU VEEN BUSY WITH
DRIVING THE BUS OVER YOUR PACKMATE?!?!?!?1!1!1?1?1
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Samac pls. If I was going to drive the bus over Dubz, the on thread fight we would have…

No. I’m not going to tell you how we would have done it. I’ll save that surprise for another game…

But seriously. Me? Bus there? Samac pls, keep it together!
 
Zenge142 said:
Samac pls. If I was going to drive the bus over Dubz, the on thread fight we would have…

No. I’m not going to tell you how we would have done it. I’ll save that surprise for another game…

But seriously. Me? Bus there? Samac pls, keep it together!
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NO IM UNHINGEEEEEEDDDDDDD
 
8. Boquise - neutral, kinda already talked about it, I think the early dubz vote gives him village points, I don't like how hard he's pressing me about saying I didn't understand him flip flopping
 
10. genny - I'm not good at reading genny, but I've liked her posts and don't really have a reason to be wolf reading her rn
 
12. moonstermash - null to wolf leaning , I don't really have a reason to go either way, the mothy vote yesterday to make a tie pinged me, weird switching on JJJ read also pinged me, need to go back and read her posts
 
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