~Labor day submitters, what have you heard from the schools you’ve applied to?

[premed20172017]

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Around the same as Davis, early September! And thanks!

Thanks! Congrats again!

 

[rockersoccer]

Haven't heard anything yet this week. Still sitting on 3 IIs (2 IAs) and 2 rejections...hoping to hear stuff before Thanksgiving.

 

[deleted1011020]

anyone else finding that they are dodging the rejection waves (wake forest, BU, gwu, rosalind)? was complete end of august to mid september.

Yea I applied to schools im almost certain I should have been rejected from by now but haven't heard back from them so I don’t know what to think.

 

[tessellations]

As we approach Thanksgiving, I have gotten an official decision from 6 schools. 3 IIs and 3 Rs. Feeling pretty good so far!

 

[Chromium Surfer]

To add more data I’ve got 3 R’s and 2 II’s as we approach TG. Rooting for you all in this thread

 

[sealfriendo]

coming in with 4rs and 1 ii. A little discouraging to be honest, but im trying to keep my head up

 

[sgw97]

Out of 20, I've gotten 3 IIs, 3 holds, no Rs yet (knock on wood)

 

[tessellations]

coming in with 4rs and 1 ii. A little discouraging to be honest, but im trying to keep my head up

I didn’t know you had gotten an II, congrats my friend, that’s awesome!!! The Rs definitely sting but an II before Thanksgiving is amazing 😊

 

[sealfriendo]

I didn’t know you had gotten an II, congrats my friend, that’s awesome!!! The Rs definitely sting but an II before Thanksgiving is amazing 😊

Cheerz my friend. I really appreciate your support and your success makes me happy

 

[kingdomheart]

Surprisingly 4IIs and 4Rs. Came a long way future docs

 

[rockersoccer]

Good job everyone! An II before TG is a great sign! Keep going strong! Hopefully there will be some decisions at the beginning of this coming week.

 

[andalukia]

I gots 2 IIs and 4 Rs! I guess next week won't be a big decision week with TG but I'm looking to hear from more in December 🙂

 

[NPowerB]

5 IIs and 1 pre-II R so far. Attended 2 interviews but haven’t heard anything back yet.

 

[OntologicalDamnation]

3 IIs and 4Rs so far.

 

[rockersoccer]

I suspect since we weren’t complete till September that we may still hear stuff in December too. I know at least a couple schools that haven’t even gotten to our apps yet

 

[Wayfinder]

I am currently sitting on 1 ii and 3 R's.
When are you all sending in letters of intent?/ What is SDN's opinion of letters of intent?
Also for clarification is there a designated time for us Labor day people to panic if we don't have more movement? (I'm assuming the thanksgiving rule doesn't fully apply due to lateness? Though I could be completely wrong)

 

[mwsapphire]

anyone else finding that they are dodging the rejection waves (wake forest, BU, gwu, rosalind)? was complete end of august to mid september.

Yea I applied to schools im almost certain I should have been rejected from by now but haven't heard back from them so I don’t know what to think.

yeah same!!! all of these schools have straight up skipped over my completion date so I'm super confused at this point.

Same!
Ya'll can see when I was complete. Idk, either it's they're mulling us over, and are maybe deciding whether to give the II or axe us.So this is good bc no quick axe.
Or, like my imposter syndrome is telling me in my case, that they just chucked my app so fast they forgot to send the R

 

[deleted1011020]

2 Rs, 1 hold, no II. This is going to be a looong cycle apparently.

 

[rockersoccer]

Radio silence these past few weeks....going to be a long cycle indeed.

 

[MDMar10]

I submitted my secondaries between Aug 28 and Sep 15. I have 3 IIs, 1IA (1 T30, 1 T20), 6 pre-II Rs, 2 pre II waitlists, and silence from over 20 schools.

 

[andalukia]

I submitted my secondaries between Aug 28 and Sep 15. I have 2 IIs, 1IA (1 T30, 1 T20), 6 Rs, 2 pre II waitlists, and silence from over 20 schools.

Wow that timeline is exactly me! Can I ask what your LM is?

I also have 2 IIs but I have 4 Rs and 1 hold. Still gotta hear from 23 schools, though some of those schools are almost done with their interviews so that's basically a silent R.

 

[MDMar10]

Wow that timeline is exactly me! Can I ask what your LM is?

I also have 2 IIs but I have 4 Rs and 1 hold. Still gotta hear from 23 schools, though some of those schools are almost done with their interviews so that's basically a silent R.

Similar time frame as you, ive sent a ton of update letters to expedite things potentially (although not sure if it has that effect).

My LM is 74, CA resident. 3 of those Rs are from T10 schools and the others from schools that take a very small percentage of OOS students. I am thinking of sending update/continued interest letters to couple of schools where I felt like I could have gained IIs but not certain if I should since I do not have any significant updates.

 

[sgw97]

I submitted my secondaries between Aug 28 and Sep 15. I have 2 IIs, 1IA (1 T30, 1 T20), 6 pre-II Rs, 2 pre II waitlists, and silence from over 20 schools.

Very similar timeline. 4IIs, 3 pre-II holds, 1 post-II WL, waiting on 2 post II decisions, 1 interview coming up, no Rs yet. Silence from 13 schools.

 

[Chromium Surfer]

So it seems like submitting submitting by labor day is actually somewhat late after all. Also fortunate to have multiple interviews ( just 2 lol) 1 top 20 and my state school.

 

[OntologicalDamnation]

So it seems like submitting submitting by labor day is actually somewhat late after all. Also fortunate to have multiple interviews ( just 2 lol) 1 top 20 and my state school.

50 percent of applicants get 4 or less interviews. I have 4 but I think I'll get maybe 1 or 2 more which would put me ahead of the majority of people. I have interviews to a top 5, school, a top 30 school, a top 60ish school, and a newer MD school. I applied to MANY schools, so it just goes to show how weird this process is.

 

[hydrophobicmed]

50 percent of applicants get 4 or less interviews. I have 4 but I think I'll get maybe 1 or 2 more which would put me ahead of the majority of people. I have interviews to a top 5, school, a top 30 school, a top 60ish school, and a newer MD school. I applied to MANY schools, so it just goes to show how weird this process is.

50% of the MATRICULANTS get 4 or less interviews.

 

[OntologicalDamnation]

50% of the MATRICULANTS get 4 or less interviews.

Damn. Then I wonder what the actual stats are? What percent of applicants don't get a single interview II at all? @Goro

Also, according to AAMC's data, 1.2 percent of matriculants attended 0 interviews. How is that possible? Were

 

[OntologicalDamnation]

My LM is 74, CA resident. 3 of those Rs are from T10 schools and the others from schools that take a very small percentage of OOS students. I am thinking of sending update/continued interest letters to couple of schools where I felt like I could have gained IIs but not certain if I should since I do not have any significant updates.

Planning on doing the same thing but waiting till after New Years. I'd rather wait this month out as everyone is going to be on vacation soon and they might miss my update or review it a point at which it becomes outdated.

 

[hydrophobicmed]

Damn. Then I wonder what the actual stats are? What percent of applicants don't get a single interview II at all? @Goro

Also, according to AAMC's data, 1.2 percent of matriculants attended 0 interviews. How is that possible? Were

I will guess it will be around 50% of the applicants don't get any interview and 10% get interviews but don't get in.

 

[Chromium Surfer]

50% of the MATRICULANTS get 4 or less interviews.

Damn. Then I wonder what the actual stats are? What percent of applicants don't get a single interview II at all? @Goro

Also, according to AAMC's data, 1.2 percent of matriculants attended 0 interviews. How is that possible? Were

I will guess it will be around 50% of the applicants don't get any interview and 10% get interviews but don't get in.

If I remember correctly @gonnif said that 60% of applicants get 1 interview or less and he had a heuristic where 1 is good, 2 is great and 3+ is excellent!

 

[hydrophobicmed]

If I remember correctly @gonnif said that 60% of applicants get 1 interview or less and he had a heuristic where 1 is good, 2 is great and 3+ is excellent!

worst position is you get one but don't get in.

 

[hydrophobicmed]

No, I wasnt talking about applicants but matriculants (see table below)
I will say that with about over 900,000 individual applications submitted across all MD schools, there are only at max 150,000 interview slots which means that at best 20% of the applications filed get any action (ie II). Therefore if you file 15 applications, 3 II would be average based on aggregate numbers. At any individual school, they may get 5000+ applications for 1,000 interview slots so at least 80% do not get an interview. Going further in this estimate, if a school takes these 5,000 and cuts the bottom 50%, you still have to sort through another 2500 to choose a 1,000 II, This means that yet another 1500 applicants, many who are solid, simply need to be cut based on finite interview slots.
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I think the chart beats 1000 words.

 

[hydrophobicmed]

We can only surmise the applicants who do not become successful matriculants have fewer II

given that the average post-II acceptance rate for one interview is around 33%, it looks like there might be twice the amount of applicants who got one interview but didn't get in. So if 20% of matriculants got in with one interview, that is 8% of the total applicants (20% times 40%), so it means that maybe around 16% of applicants who got one interview but didn't get in. Therefore. it looks like about 44% of applicants who don't receive any interview. Of course, I am not counting those with 2+ II's but didn't get in...

 

[sundays24]

i was complete throughout sept and have received several IIs but looking through some of the school-specific threads it still seems like some schools, particularly those with 10k+ applicants, may not have even gotten to my app yet. or maybe people complete in sept have heard back and just haven't posted it on SDN. anyways it's december, interview slots are dwindling, and it sucks not knowing whether schools have even looked at my app

 

[rockersoccer]

Absolute silence from my state schools. Pretty ridiculous. At least I have a couple interviews at great schools, but I would really like my state to show me some love lol.

 

[Porpoiseman12345]

Complete at most schools on 9/4. LM 72. 3 II, 2 R, 1 hold, silence from 20 schools.

 

[proudofmykids]

Absolute silence from my state schools. Pretty ridiculous. At least I have a couple interviews at great schools, but I would really like my state to show me some love lol.

+1 (we have one state school)

 

[premed20172017]

+1 (we have one state school)

Didn’t your daughter apply well before Labor Day, though?

 

[rockersoccer]

It's been good so far! Finally got an II from my state school. 4th II and 3rd one I'll be attending!

 

[OntologicalDamnation]

2 IIs in one day (literally half of my previous II total). I still believe that Labor Day is somewhat late for schools that finish interviewing in December, and I personally think it screwed me over for UCLA. Anyways, things are looking good so far and we still have until February (maybe even March) to get more IIs from other schools!

 

[rockersoccer]

I agree! Probably two more months to potentially get IIs. Looks like some schools are just now getting to our apps. Keep staying strong everyone; we are doing great!

 

[OntologicalDamnation]

Edit to my post above. Make that 3 IIs in 2 days. It's a Christmas miracle!!!!

(How I feel right now)

 

[TheRealBatmanMD]

Edit to my post above. Make that 3 IIs in 2 days. It's a Christmas miracle!!!!

(How I feel right now)

 

[hydrophobicmed]

fellow "late" submitters! Just want to let you know that timeline of your submission doesn't matter that much! I am almost done with the cycle!

 

[OntologicalDamnation]

So many people told me it was over for me cause of my submission deadlines haha

It's because of the fear mongering perpetuated by the "Thanksgiving deadline." A lot of people misinterpret what it means. I think I mentioned a month or two ago that around 40% of IIs remain after Thanksgiving and so far it seems to be true (at least on my end).

 

[hydrophobicmed]

So many people told me it was over for me cause of my submission deadlines haha

completely unfounded rumors!

 

[hydrophobicmed]

It's because of the fear mongering perpetuated by the "Thanksgiving deadline." A lot of people misinterpret what it means. I think I mentioned a month or two ago that around 40% of IIs remain after Thanksgiving and so far it seems to be true (at least on my end).

it's this hurry up and wait mentality...

 

[hydrophobicmed]

Honestly I had to try really hard to believe in my app and have faith that it would be okay even with later submission dates. It's interesting how it seems like adcoms don't really go in order of completion date, yet there's these rumors. My only regret about applying earlier is that maybe I would have an acceptance by now in time for Xmas haha. Is what it is.

I'm seriously proud of us all!!!

mythbusters we are!

 

[deleted1011020]

It's because of the fear mongering perpetuated by the "Thanksgiving deadline." A lot of people misinterpret what it means. I think I mentioned a month or two ago that around 40% of IIs remain after Thanksgiving and so far it seems to be true (at least on my end).

Where does this number come from? Im assuming for self-reported individuals on SDN right?

 

[OntologicalDamnation]

Where does this number come from? Im assuming for self-reported individuals on SDN right?

I heard it from a dean at a top 10 school