MPH Learning a second language?

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Is anybody else considering learning a second language while getting their MPH? I'm going to be getting an MPH in epidemiology. I've always been interested in taking up another language and figured it could be a useful addition for my future career if I decide to go the global route. Does anybody have experience with this or know how difficult it is to manage the requirements for an MPH and learning a new language?
 
I'm thinking about doing it! I know at Emory or Michigan, you're able to take up tp 18 credits a semester. I took Spanish 101 at the end of my senior year in college and I hope to take more classes in grad school. I took French throughout my life and Spanish was quite easy to pick up for me. Look into if your school allows you to take undergrad classes for no additional cost. Or, look for local language clubs. I know in DC, Global Language Network is great and affordable (and won't affect your grade!).
 
I'm thinking about doing it! I know at Emory or Michigan, you're able to take up tp 18 credits a semester. I took Spanish 101 at the end of my senior year in college and I hope to take more classes in grad school. I took French throughout my life and Spanish was quite easy to pick up for me. Look into if your school allows you to take undergrad classes for no additional cost. Or, look for local language clubs. I know in DC, Global Language Network is great and affordable (and won't affect your grade!).
I know at UIC, I'll be able to take up to 18 credits per semester, but I don't know if there is any additional cost for taking undergrad classes. I definitely need to check on that. I'll actually be moving to the area at the beginning of the summer, so I plan to see if I can go ahead and take or audit a language course then. I'm leaning towards trying to learn French right now. It seems to be a very interesting language and would be beneficial if I were to go into work with the WHO (dream) or do any work in some African nations.

I'm already looking at the online language tools to use. I've found Duolingo to be nice, but it seems like it will only help for reading/writing the language. Doesn't seem to provide any speaking aids.
 
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Basically:
-class vs self paced programs.
-practice, practice, practice
-live it, label things in the house, keep a calendar, visit the communities

I love languages!
 
I just typed a long message, that didn't send...
Basically:
-class vs self paced programs.
-practice, practice, practice
-live it, label things in the house, keep a calendar, visit the communities

I love languages!
Do you think classes or self-paced programs work better? I'm pretty excited to try learning a new language! I've never really given myself the opportunity to do so before, so it'll be rough at first I think.
For collaboration purposes, Chinese might be a useful one.

I thought about that one as well. Do you find that it would be pretty useful in your career?
 
Do you think classes or self-paced programs work better? I'm pretty excited to try learning a new language! I've never really given myself the opportunity to do so before, so it'll be rough at first I think.

Kind of depends on the person. There's plusses to both.
Classes are structured, and someone else helps hold you accountable. But, there's more flexibility in self paced programs. Maybe a class to get the basics, then self-paced?
 
Kind of depends on the person. There's plusses to both.
Classes are structured, and someone else helps hold you accountable. But, there's more flexibility in self paced programs. Maybe a class to get the basics, then self-paced?
I definitely like the flexibility of self-paced programs. I worry that it's much harder to learn the grammar with a self-paced program, though. Also, it seems that many of the programs can teach you how to read the language pretty well, but learning how to speak it is more difficult. I'm thinking I'll probably try to take a formal class over the summer to go ahead and get some of the basics/grammar down, and then I'll move to self-paced programs once my MPH starts.
 
I thought about that one as well. Do you find that it would be pretty useful in your career?

Well... I wish I knew Chinese. Haha. The last two PIs I worked for were Chinese, and a lot of the groups were Chinese... so having that might have been nice 😛 It's not necessary, of course, since Chinese folks generally speak pretty good English, but it's always nice to have a useful language that a lot of people speak.
 
Well... I wish I knew Chinese. Haha. The last two PIs I worked for were Chinese, and a lot of the groups were Chinese... so having that might have been nice 😛 It's not necessary, of course, since Chinese folks generally speak pretty good English, but it's always nice to have a useful language that a lot of people speak.
I learned Japanese in grad school and picked up some limited Chinese for reading. It's a HUGE time investment. I was only able to do it because I got FLAS fellowships and spent multiple summers at Middlebury. Given how short MPH programs are it might make sense to choose a language with an easier "category I" difficulty rating rather than a category V language!

FSI language ratings for common languages are here: http://www.effectivelanguagelearning.com/language-guide/language-difficulty
(Look at the contact hours, not the weeks--FSI learners are polyglots who spend 20+ hrs/week in small-group language training so it's unimaginably intense compared to your typical college language course with less than 5 contact hrs/week. The week estimates are based on FSI weeks, not normal human weeks. 🙂

If you're serious about fluency, spend a summer doing immersion at Middlebury: http://www.middlebury.edu/ls/chinese People learning easier languages come out fluent after a single summer session.
 
The key is to apply it outside of your 'study'. In Chicago this is easy because of the amazingly diverse cultures and communities. After the basics, applying it in everyday life is the important part.
 
I want to go into Global Health, so I think my additional language skills will be helpful. As far as I see it, it can't hurt. I plan on applying to summer programs between my first and second year to continue brushing up on one of them.
 
Is anybody else considering learning a second language while getting their MPH? I'm going to be getting an MPH in epidemiology. I've always been interested in taking up another language and figured it could be a useful addition for my future career if I decide to go the global route. Does anybody have experience with this or know how difficult it is to manage the requirements for an MPH and learning a new language?

I don't think the time commitment issue will matter - you can always prioritize and set aside time, whether you're in MPH school, law school, med school, etc. I personally find it useful to "block" time, saying you'll always do one hour of Spanish from 9-10 PM everyday. Once you get in a routine, you'll increase the odds of sticking to it throughout the MPH.

If you're learning the language de novo, then classes really help to learn the basic grammar (so if you can sit in on some classes at your university, rather than actually taking the class and having that commitment, that could be useful). They'll probably just give you a textbook and tell you to read that. You could, if you want, find pdfs [or actual textbooks] and read those in your free time.

But really, the only way to actually learn the language is to actually speak it and listen to it, particularly in other countries. See if you can travel as part of your MPH. Or join a language group on campus. If you google 'skype foreign language group forums' you'll find forums where you can pair up with practice partners (i.e., you practice your Spanish with some random person from Mexico for 30 mins, then you help them with their English for 30 mins).

And then I know this is not the focus of the thread, but choosing a useful language is also important. It depends where you want to work. Spanish is good if you want to work in the US b/c of the increasing Hispanic population; you can also work in Latin America.
 
I don't think the time commitment issue will matter - you can always prioritize and set aside time, whether you're in MPH school, law school, med school, etc. I personally find it useful to "block" time, saying you'll always do one hour of Spanish from 9-10 PM everyday. Once you get in a routine, you'll increase the odds of sticking to it throughout the MPH.

If you're learning the language de novo, then classes really help to learn the basic grammar (so if you can sit in on some classes at your university, rather than actually taking the class and having that commitment, that could be useful). They'll probably just give you a textbook and tell you to read that. You could, if you want, find pdfs [or actual textbooks] and read those in your free time.

But really, the only way to actually learn the language is to actually speak it and listen to it, particularly in other countries. See if you can travel as part of your MPH. Or join a language group on campus. If you google 'skype foreign language group forums' you'll find forums where you can pair up with practice partners (i.e., you practice your Spanish with some random person from Mexico for 30 mins, then you help them with their English for 30 mins).

And then I know this is not the focus of the thread, but choosing a useful language is also important. It depends where you want to work. Spanish is good if you want to work in the US b/c of the increasing Hispanic population; you can also work in Latin America.
These are all great suggestions, thank you! I think I am going to try to audit a class at my university this summer so that I can go ahead and try to get some of the grammar down.
 
I don't think the time commitment issue will matter - you can always prioritize and set aside time, whether you're in MPH school, law school, med school, etc. I personally find it useful to "block" time, saying you'll always do one hour of Spanish from 9-10 PM everyday. Once you get in a routine, you'll increase the odds of sticking to it throughout the MPH.

If you're learning the language de novo, then classes really help to learn the basic grammar (so if you can sit in on some classes at your university, rather than actually taking the class and having that commitment, that could be useful). They'll probably just give you a textbook and tell you to read that. You could, if you want, find pdfs [or actual textbooks] and read those in your free time.

But really, the only way to actually learn the language is to actually speak it and listen to it, particularly in other countries. See if you can travel as part of your MPH. Or join a language group on campus. If you google 'skype foreign language group forums' you'll find forums where you can pair up with practice partners (i.e., you practice your Spanish with some random person from Mexico for 30 mins, then you help them with their English for 30 mins).

And then I know this is not the focus of the thread, but choosing a useful language is also important. It depends where you want to work. Spanish is good if you want to work in the US b/c of the increasing Hispanic population; you can also work in Latin America.

In addition to this, I think watching TV shows in that language are also a good place to start for pronunciation and such. Although this does require some level of fluency before you can really start here.
 
In addition to this, I think watching TV shows in that language are also a good place to start for pronunciation and such. Although this does require some level of fluency before you can really start here.

This is key. Watch kids shows and soap operas! A lot of news will use more official language, which may not exactly be what you need to be effective in the job. One of my languages is Arabic, and the dialects are so different, and the media is a whole different beast.

Cartoons, Soaps, and Coffee Shops!
 
This is key. Watch kids shows and soap operas! A lot of news will use more official language, which may not exactly be what you need to be effective in the job. One of my languages is Arabic, and the dialects are so different, and the media is a whole different beast.

Cartoons, Soaps, and Coffee Shops!
Would you suggest this after already gaining a moderate amount of fluency? It seems like it would be very difficult to pick up anything if you don't have at least minor fluency.
 
My opinion is that after you get the basics of the alphabet down, you could realistically start. It'll help hearing people other than your instructor or a computer, talking.
In harder languages, you'll need that basis. But for easier ones, anytime is fine.

Think about kids, they don't wait until school to learn sentence structure. Sure, our brains are different than a child, but, I think it still applies.
 
My opinion is that after you get the basics of the alphabet down, you could realistically start. It'll help hearing people other than your instructor or a computer, talking.
In harder languages, you'll need that basis. But for easier ones, anytime is fine.

Think about kids, they don't wait until school to learn sentence structure. Sure, our brains are different than a child, but, I think it still applies.
Good to know. I've been playing around with some self-paced french programs and I've found that it's very difficult for me to get myself to pronounce the words correctly. Trying to listen to a computer say the words doesn't help very much either. I may start listening to some french cartoons or something to get used to the flow and sound of the language. I feel like that would help a lot more, even if I can't understand the individual meanings. Thanks for all of your insight!
 
I've thought about it, but I'm not sure if I wanna do it through the university. I used to live in Austria so I used to speak intermediate German. I haven't bothered to speak or write in German for more than 7 years so I basically forgot EVERYTHING. It really sucks. However, everything that I learned was due to me watching Austrian television and I guess it didn't hurt to live there. So I was around it 24/7. I was weirded out when I was in an English speaking country because I wasn't used to it anymore.

However, I guess I'll struggle with standard German since where I lived Bavarian German was spoken...
 
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