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The beatings will continue until morale improves. I feel like the Podiatry Gods are punishing us for our SDN sins.
As many as are "qualified" to attend an "accredited school"? 🙂Does anyone know what their class size will be?
This is just pathetic at this point. No one cares enough to do anything about it. Why couldn’t temple or kent lobby hard against this? Guessing it takes applicants away from those schools
Lecom will fill it easy like other DO associated schools. Just give fliers to the med school rejectsKent and Temple will get their students. They will just give acceptances to people on the street. They will somehow figure out how to fill those seats.
Don’t forget Barry and nycpm.Kent and Temple will get their students. They will just give acceptances to people on the street. They will somehow figure out how to fill those seats.
Lecom will fill it easy like other DO associated schools. Just give fliers to the med school rejects
On behalf of the Board of Directors, of SDN Truth Tellers, a forum member remarked "As the 11th school of podiatric medicine in the United States, LECOM School of Podiatric Medicine will help the profession to meet the unmet demand for podiatric nursing home and assisted living toenail care and will contribute to the ongoing growth of Health Drive. No toenail should ever be trimmed by a CNA. The addition of LECOM will also help to simultaneously lower podiatric associate pay, residency availability and quality while spurring the growth of a new breed of double fellowship trained podiatrists. The new college will accept anyone that can obtain federal loans and will help to lower admission standards at the 11 schools. We welcome the LECOM School of Podiatric Medicine to SDN.The beatings will continue until morale improves. I feel like the Podiatry Gods are punishing us for our SDN sins.
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Look on the bright side: the number of practicing podiatrists will surpass number of orthopedists in the USA within a decade... or even less.The residency shortage in 4 years is going to be epic. I need to open up my podiatry associate mill asap. Start new residency grad suckers at 70k and pod school graduate suckers that couldn’t find a residency spot as “preceptors” for 35k to help run the nail farm.
So - are the LECOM people going to even pretend that they will be opening new residencies?
Nope….they can just take the easy way out and due to the current reduction in enrollment spin it that they are doing good deeds by saving the existing bottom of the barrel residencies (that should be shutdown) from going unfilled instead of actually adding more quality residencies.They won’t even try this time around. Neither will Lee Rogers awful Texas school. They are just going to crush this profession into oblivion. No remorse either. We are just going to sit back and take it.
500-600. They are so cheap, all 600 applicants will go there.Does anyone know what their class size will be?
Exactly. LECOM is thinking to have no waste byproducts. They will recycle ♻️ their master students who didn't get into their DO or other DO programs into Podiatry class. Maybe they will have "guarantee" admission for master students. Basically, make master students feel like they didn't lose anything by not getting into DO school. They will still become "doctors" by going into Podiatry.LECOM has a masters program that med school hopefuls try to use to get into DO school. If they fail at that they can become podiatrists instead and enjoy being a doctor who realistically can only make 75-100k first year after residency.
Plus they’ll make 50-100k in the masters class. Average podiatry loans will be 400-500k for a 70k a year job, which might be a good offer in the future.Exactly. LECOM is thinking to have no waste byproducts. They will recycle ♻️ their master students who didn't get into their DO or other DO programs into Podiatry class. Maybe they will have "guarantee" admission for master students. Basically, make master students feel like they didn't lose anything by not getting into DO school. They will still become "doctors" by going into Podiatry.
"The program "will help" the profession to meet the unmet demand for podiatry care". Lol lol lol
Harvard is the Stansbury of the EastDon’t forget Barry and nycpm.
I mean really none of the schools are very selective. It’s funny to pretend DMU and Scholl are the Harvard and Princeton of podiatry though I get it.
I do think the Texas school will create residencies. Probably not enough. But they will create some good ones for what they are trying to accomplish.They won’t even try this time around. Neither will Lee Rogers awful Texas school. They are just going to crush this profession into oblivion. No remorse either. We are just going to sit back and take it.
Try to keep it in the meme thread. Otherwise I may get it confused for an SDN adMods I believe memes are allowed in other threads if on topic?
The deceased overall salary across the board is actually horrifying. Those 80k entry level jobs can easily drop to 60k..
Imagine making 40-50k as a resident and then coming out as an attending and making 60k…
This field gives me chest pain
Thats my father's words/advice. It served me well so far in life.If you work hard and seek the advice of smart people here like I did, you will do fine. As @DYK343 said before, hang out with the smart kids that don’t complain. It works.
If you work hard and seek the advice of smart people here like I did, you will do fine. As @DYK343 said before, hang out with the smart kids that don’t complain. It works.
You’re optimistic because you have a hospital job. Take away your job tomorrow. Would be as optimistic?
No
I have heard that UTSA is trying to expand to more resident slots, but they’re going to have to come up with more spots than that in TX.I do think the Texas school will create residencies. Probably not enough. But they will create some good ones for what they are trying to accomplish.
This is just pathetic at this point. No one cares enough to do anything about it. Why couldn’t temple or kent lobby hard against this? Guessing it takes applicants away from those schools
It’s not about lobbying against it. CPME can’t consider anti-competition. They can only consider whether an applicant school meets the standards.
Good or bad, in light of the current application numbers, if they meet the standards they must be accredited.
There will obviously be some local increase of a few applicants with each school. Maybe LECOM can recycle some rejected DO students. Texas is a big state and will draw some Texas students, that I believe they give priority to.I'm curious to see how it will affect the applicant pool. Will there be more people applying for these spots? Or will it just split the current applicant pool across the 13 schools.
Exactly. LECOM is thinking to have no waste byproducts. They will recycle ♻️ their master students who didn't get into their DO or other DO programs into Podiatry class. Maybe they will have "guarantee" admission for master students. Basically, make master students feel like they didn't lose anything by not getting into DO school. They will still become "doctors" by going into Podiatry.
"The program "will help" the profession to meet the unmet demand for podiatry care". Lol lol lol
Opposite. Residents now make 60k at some areas 70k. Imagine getting out of residency and making 50k like many fellowships pay.The deceased overall salary across the board is actually horrifying. Those 80k entry level jobs can easily drop to 60k..
Imagine making 40-50k as a resident and then coming out as an attending and making 60k…
Only positive I can think of is if in the future there is a possibility of a DPM/DO dual degree
What's the point? We just want to make things so complicated. Nobody knows exactly what podiatrists do. Let's make it even more confusing.To make it happen, have an optional 4 year residency programs with entire 1st year spent in strictly medicine rotation managing inpatients.
What's the point? We just want to make things so complicated. Nobody knows exactly what podiatrists do. Let's make it even moreTo make it happen, have an optional 4 year residency programs with entire 1st year spent in strictly medicine rotation managing inpatients.
8 years of school and 4 years of residency to work under MD/DO? What?!?!? Just go and become MD/DO so you don't have to work under anyone. Why would there be a need in podiatry working as IM hospitalist? What podiatrist then be board certified by IM board or podiatry board?Only positive I can think of is if in the future there is a possibility of a DPM/DO dual degree then LECOM will be the one to make it happen. Then other schools affiliated with a medical school and follow suit. A hospitalist podiatrist managing all the diabetic inpatient and also doing surgery will help increase pay and demand for "hospitalist podiatrist'. The "hospitalist podiatrist" can work under an MD/DO but still be somehow independent. Just like PA/NP who work on the hospital floor side by side with MD/DO and help manage inpatients.
We already do this in residency when we primarily admit our patients and manage them with appropriate consults.
Point is to graduate hospitalist podiatrist that will management diabetic patient with foot infections. Imagine if every hospital decides to hire a dedicated hospitalist podiatrist to manage this inpatients. The demand for pods will sky rocket.What's the point? We just want to make things so complicated. Nobody knows exactly what podiatrists do. Let's make it even more confusing.
We already have a podiatric medicine board right. Can just create a CAQ in IM lol8 years of school and 4 years of residency to work under MD/DO? What?!?!? Just go and become MD/DO so you don't have to work under anyone. Why would there be a need in podiatry working as IM hospitalist? What podiatrist then be board certified by IM board or podiatry board?
Ok, but why do we need to become DPM/DO or have an additional year of residency. Plus there are hospitals out there where podiatry is primary managing their pts. Nothing new. Other specialties can be primary without additional years of IM training. That's not necessary. All of podiatry programs have their residents spend 10-12 months on other rotations acting like interns or TY residents.Point is to graduate hospitalist podiatrist that will management diabetic patient with foot infections. Imagine if every hospital decides to hire a dedicated hospitalist podiatrist to manage this inpatients. The demand for pods will sky rocket.
Point is to graduate hospitalist podiatrist that will management diabetic patient with foot infections. Imagine if every hospital decides to hire a dedicated hospitalist podiatrist to manage this inpatients. The demand for pods will sky rocket.