LECOM - Erie vs UNECOM vs NYIT-COM

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I'm having an incredibly difficult time making a decision. I've been accepted to LECOM-Erie and UNECOM, and just interviewed at NYIT-COM (interview went well.) I've paid the deposit to LECOM, since it was due at the end of October. Deposit for UNECOM is due Dec. 14. No word from PCOM, which I would probably choose over these three. But, if I have to choose between these three, I have no idea. I'm from upstate NY. Here's the biggest factors I'm looking at for each school:


LECOM: Pro: Cheap. Affordable living.
Con: Strict rules (no food/water, mandatory lecture)


UNECOM: Pro: Super friendly/cooperative. Nice location.
Con: Expensive. Less impressive match list.

NYIT-COM: Pro: High-caliber. Great match lists. Awesome clinical sites
Con: Expensive and expensive. Tolls.

I am looking to specialize. Is NYIT-COM worth the extra $$ to provide me with a better chance of specializing? One thing to keep in mind is that I'm not the greatest test taker, so I'm not sure how well I'd end up doing on the boards. My concern here is if I'm going to end up going to primary medicine, is it just wiser to go to the cheaper schools, LECOM?


Any insight??
 
I'm having an incredibly difficult time making a decision. I've been accepted to LECOM-Erie and UNECOM, and just interviewed at NYIT-COM (interview went well.) I've paid the deposit to LECOM, since it was due at the end of October. Deposit for UNECOM is due Dec. 14. No word from PCOM, which I would probably choose over these three. But, if I have to choose between these three, I have no idea. I'm from upstate NY. Here's the biggest factors I'm looking at for each school:


LECOM: Pro: Cheap. Affordable living.
Con: Strict rules (no food/water, mandatory lecture)


UNECOM: Pro: Super friendly/cooperative. Nice location.
Con: Expensive. Less impressive match list.

NYIT-COM: Pro: High-caliber. Great match lists. Awesome clinical sites
Con: Expensive and expensive. Tolls.

I am looking to specialize. Is NYIT-COM worth the extra $$ to provide me with a better chance of specializing? One thing to keep in mind is that I'm not the greatest test taker, so I'm not sure how well I'd end up doing on the boards. My concern here is if I'm going to end up going to primary medicine, is it just wiser to go to the cheaper schools, LECOM?


Any insight??

Of these three schools I think NYIT is the best but its not worth the extra cost. LECOM is cheap and matches fine but has weird rules. Really matching has way more to do with you then the school. @Mad Jack can give you insight on UNECOM. Its not as expensive as NYIT and doesn't have the rules of LECOM

I would say choose LECOM if cost is important and you don't mind strict rules.

Choose UNECOM if you rather spend the money to avoid strict rules.

Choose NYIT if cost isnt important and you like the location. Also NYIT probably will be mariginaly easier to match form and is well known in New York (good for NY residency) and probably provides better rotations and such. NYIT actually gets a lot of hate but is an awesome school. However its not worth the money.
 
Out of those three, I would choose UNECOM. I personally have always gotten a weird vibe off of LECOM that I cannot place, it might have something to do with the persnickety rules. Despite being from NY state myself, I have no point of reference on NYIT, as its location does not interest me in the least and I did not research the school or apply there.
 
Ill give you my 2 cents as I'm a student at NYIT right now and had a similar decision to make (between LECOM, TOURO, and NYIT)....

Ultimately for me location was a bigger factor it sounds like, as I really want to do residency in NY. The cost of tuition at NYCOM is absolutely ridiculous and trust me, it is exceedingly more frustrating when you realize that the school accepts 300+ students a year into each class. However, for me I had to look at the long term. I am interested in a somewhat competitive specialty, which is becoming more and more competitive each year, and NYCOM gave my the best opportunity to achieve that in the place that I want to achieve it.

When you consider the financial aspect of it I encourage you to look at in a quality of life perspective as well. The amount of loans that you take on going to this school is certainly a stressful burden, but you WILL pay it off. It will definitely have an impact on the quality of life that you are capable of achieving for a certain amount of time, but consider the trade off that you are getting in return for the opportunities that the school can provide you. For me this opportunity was worth knowing that I am going to need to live very modestly for a while longer (maybe a lot longer) than many of my peers at other schools. You need to decide whether the trade is worth it as well, and especially take into account whether those other schools can give you the opportunity to achieve what you want (in all likelihood they probably can).

Best of luck
 
I'd go with une. I'd pick nyit if you can afford it
 
Depends on what you want, no one can answer for you. I picked UNECOM because I love the atmosphere of the school, I love the small town, the weather, the area. The school is small and close knit and has everything I was looking for, one of the best anatomy depts in the country. It just depends on what you want and are looking for.
 
If you want to go into primary care, then UNE is a great choice as it prepares sudents to be excellent PCPs.
 
I'm having an incredibly difficult time making a decision. I've been accepted to LECOM-Erie and UNECOM, and just interviewed at NYIT-COM (interview went well.) I've paid the deposit to LECOM, since it was due at the end of October. Deposit for UNECOM is due Dec. 14. No word from PCOM, which I would probably choose over these three. But, if I have to choose between these three, I have no idea. I'm from upstate NY. Here's the biggest factors I'm looking at for each school:


LECOM: Pro: Cheap. Affordable living.
Con: Strict rules (no food/water, mandatory lecture)


UNECOM: Pro: Super friendly/cooperative. Nice location.
Con: Expensive. Less impressive match list.

NYIT-COM: Pro: High-caliber. Great match lists. Awesome clinical sites
Con: Expensive and expensive. Tolls.

I am looking to specialize. Is NYIT-COM worth the extra $$ to provide me with a better chance of specializing? One thing to keep in mind is that I'm not the greatest test taker, so I'm not sure how well I'd end up doing on the boards. My concern here is if I'm going to end up going to primary medicine, is it just wiser to go to the cheaper schools, LECOM?


Any insight??

All the schools mentioned will give you equal chance of specializing, its really your board scores that will tell if you can do that.

LECOM is a super strict school, they do even let students use the entrance show in all their brochures, and Erie is not the nicest place on Earth.

UNECOM seems okay, but they get a lot of snow over there. I never sent my secondary to them, and I used to live about a 3 to 4 hour drive away.
 
nycom would be my first choice by far
 
Haha, yeah, I'd choose LECOM, but then again, I did.

You seem like you really don't like the idea of the rules. For that reason alone, I might suggest making a different decision than I did.

In terms of weather (if you aren't a fan of snow) and opportunity, I'd go with NYCOM, but the cost difference is huge. Have you sat down and realistically calculated what your debt will be from each school (really see how much rent is, commuting, tuition and fees, etc.)? If not, I would. Let us know what numbers you come to and that might give you and us a better idea in terms of which is the safer bet.

Bottom line is that you want to go where you could really see yourself excelling. Cost is important, matching is important, but you really need to be somewhere you can do well to get you through the stress of med school.
 
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LECOM's rules really aren't that hard. It' no different than working a job and dealing with the terms.
The want you to dress professional because you are going to be one. So?
If you aren't going to pick a school because no one uses the "official front door" well that's just frivolous and immature. You park on the other side of the building anyway so who cares?
Ok so they don't want food and drinks in the lecture halls so the building stays clean and the electronics wired into the seats don't get damaged.

Grow up already you are going to be doctors. The days of being a bitching baby are over.
 
LECOM's rules really aren't that hard. It' no different than working a job and dealing with the terms.
The want you to dress professional because you are going to be one. So?
If you aren't going to pick a school because no one uses the "official front door" well that's just frivolous and immature. You park on the other side of the building anyway so who cares?
Ok so they don't want food and drinks in the lecture halls so the building stays clean and the electronics wired into the seats don't get damaged.

Grow up already you are going to be doctors. The days of being a bitching baby are over.

I know you're biased because you graduated from there. But there is a time and place for everything.

Professional attire makes sense for special events, meetings and conferences. It doesn't make sense to be forced upon for a regular session of lecture. You're not making a student graduate with honors in professionalism by imposing it 24/7.

In the real world, Food and water are allowed in physician offices. Even water bottles are allowed at conference rooms from what I see.

You say LECOM wants to treat students like professionals, so...isn't part of it to trust the professional student to clean up after themselves?

Not using front doors I have no opinion about.
 
LECOM's rules really aren't that hard. It' no different than working a job and dealing with the terms.
The want you to dress professional because you are going to be one. So?
If you aren't going to pick a school because no one uses the "official front door" well that's just frivolous and immature. You park on the other side of the building anyway so who cares?
Ok so they don't want food and drinks in the lecture halls so the building stays clean and the electronics wired into the seats don't get damaged.

Grow up already you are going to be doctors. The days of being a bitching baby are over.
how about helping students be comfortable, find their best method for learning, and consequently allow them to reach their fullest potential? Mandatory attendance (30-40 hrs/week), daily professional dress code, and no liquids makes me wonder how committed they are to this.
 
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You say LECOM wants to treat students like professionals, so...isn't part of it to trust the professional student to clean up after themselves?
Not that I have seen. As I sit here in a filthy break room at the office since NO ONE cleans up after themselves. Haven't seen a clean breakroom, fridge, or microwave in any office that I have travelled to.

OF course I am biased, I did go there but don't judge how "harsh" the rules are when a person never has attended there. I found it quite easy to be compliant. It's a private school and they can make whatever rules they want to keep it pristeen. If a person can't last an hour in lecture without having a water bottle next to them then maybe they need to rethink their medicine course. If the rules seem "too much" then don't apply there but don't bash them either.
 
how about helping students be comfortable, find their best method for learning, and consequently allow them to reach their fullest potential? Mandatory attendance (30-40 hrs/week), daily professional dress code, and no liquids makes me wonder how committed they are to this.
Medicine is not about comfort. It's about dealing with it. If you don't like having to show up for class then don't go to that school but don't apply, matriculate and then complain about "the rules" when you know them going in.
 
Medicine is not about comfort. It's about dealing with it. If you don't like having to show up for class then don't go to that school but don't apply, matriculate and then complain about "the rules" when you know them going in.

I agree don't go to LECOM if you are just going to complain about the rules. Thats why when people ask about LECOM vs another school I think its important to make sure they aren't just going to go there and complain the whole time.
 
Medicine is not about comfort. It's about dealing with it. If you don't like having to show up for class then don't go to that school but don't apply, matriculate and then complain about "the rules" when you know them going in.
there is a difference when such rules are essential. You HAVE to be in a hospital, OR, clinic, whatever, to carry out certain duties. You had better be dressed appropriately during patient encounters. You don't need be sitting in an auditorium at 8 AM, dressed in a coat and tie, and be spoken at in order to learn the steps of glycolysis and gluconeogenesis.

Yes, LECOM has the authority to impose these silly regulations-- but that does not make it right.
 
Medicine is not about comfort. It's about dealing with it. If you don't like having to show up for class then don't go to that school but don't apply, matriculate and then complain about "the rules" when you know them going in.

and perhaps LECOM could learn a thing or two from this DO school:

So far, I feel that the UMDNJ deans are WAY more focused on our results than they are on our study methods...
Our deans strive for providing us an environment in which we can reach our peak potential...if that means chilling at home and watching the lectures at a faster speed then they shall provide you with just that...
 
If you want to go into primary care, then UNE is a great choice as it prepares sudents to be excellent PCPs.
I don't get where this whole "UNE is an entirely PCP-focused school" idea comes from. We turn out specialists as often as any other DO school. 39% of our grads end up in FP or IM, and a lot of the ones in IM end up subspecializing. Yes, UNECOM selects for people interested in primary care, but once you're here, you can do just about whatever the hell you want if you change your mind down the road.
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how about helping students be comfortable, find their best method for learning, and consequently allow them to reach their fullest potential? Mandatory attendance (30-40 hrs/week), daily professional dress code, and no liquids makes me wonder how committed they are to this.
It's not the school's problem to make you comfortable. If you want to accrue and unnecessary 100K in debt so you can wear sweat pants to class and get up at noon then that's your perogative.
 
and perhaps LECOM could learn a thing or two from this DO school:
Then again, that environment doesn't work well for everyone either. That's the difference between generation X and generation Y. If I didn't have a schedule and "chilled at home" I never would have passed and graduated. I need that structure to be successful. To each his own. I personally would be really pissed to fork over 220K to only sit at home and teach myself.
 
Then again, that environment doesn't work well for everyone either. That's the difference between generation X and generation Y. If I didn't have a schedule and "chilled at home" I never would have passed and graduated. I need that structure to be successful. To each his own. I personally would be really pissed to fork over 220K to only sit at home and teach myself.
Most LECOM students are PBL now, so that's kind of what they do. Personally I'm a fan of the attendance optional curriculum- I just don't process information very well at 8 in the morning, so I wake up at 9 and then watch all the lectures over breakfast while chilling in my recliner. Is a six figure sum worth my comfort? Personally, I say yes, because I absolutely love Maine and would have lost my mind in most of the other places I got accepted. It's all about what works for the student, like you said.

I've got a serious love of freedom and problem with authority that would have made LECOM a bad idea for myself, personally. Little things tend to irk me- if there's no point to something or I find it unjust, I will not let it go. Not because it makes my life unbearable, but because I'm big on taking a stand for what I believe in, unlike much of the lazy-ass rest of my generation.
 
I don't get where this whole "UNE is an entirely PCP-focused school" idea comes from. We turn out specialists as often as any other DO school. 39% of our grads end up in FP or IM, and a lot of the ones in IM end up subspecializing. Yes, UNECOM selects for people interested in primary care, but once you're here, you can do just about whatever the hell you want if you change your mind down the road.
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Its one of the myths of sdn. Another good example is nova being MCAT crazy.
 
Is UNECOM's case-based learning the same as PBL in LECOM? And does any other DO school have this kind of curriculum?
 
Is UNECOM's case-based learning the same as PBL in LECOM? And does any other DO school have this kind of curriculum?
It's very similar, from what I gathered at my LECOM interview. We have weekly group cases, we study objectives for the cases and the week's lectures, and we do a session where we integrate everything together. The big difference seems to be that we've got the option of in-person lectures if that's what we're down for.
 
I know you're biased because you graduated from there. But there is a time and place for everything.

Professional attire makes sense for special events, meetings and conferences. It doesn't make sense to be forced upon for a regular session of lecture. You're not making a student graduate with honors in professionalism by imposing it 24/7.

In the real world, Food and water are allowed in physician offices. Even water bottles are allowed at conference rooms from what I see.

You say LECOM wants to treat students like professionals, so...isn't part of it to trust the professional student to clean up after themselves?

Not using front doors I have no opinion about.

Honestly, most work settings are like this for no reason. I really see no difference in how LECOM does things than how the hospital, research lab, and IT company I worked for previously did things. In the real world, a lot of rules are arbitrary, especially if you are responsible. The truth is though that med students aren't always responsible or considerate. Most of LECOM's rules, excluding the few basic ones, were a result of an issue they had in the past. I believe it, because I see new rules pop up whenever someone does something stupid.

Also, to be clear, the way LECOM does things is not aimed at treating you as a professional, it's to get you to act "professional". We're not professionals yet, but the idea is that if we learn to carry ourselves like professionals now, when we're in the real world we'll have an easier time adjusting. It's not always the best strategy, but I see the reasoning.

Life is uncomfortable in the real world. It's for that reason that I don't really care about the rules. I might as well prepare when its least important, when I'm still a student allowed to make mistakes. I'd rather not figure that out with patients in 3rd and 4th year - I'm sure I'll have plenty of other mistakes to deal with then.

But to each his own. If it's a big deal, don't apply. If someone doesn't see themselves following rules, even when they may not agree with them, LECOM's not for them.

how about helping students be comfortable, find their best method for learning, and consequently allow them to reach their fullest potential? Mandatory attendance (30-40 hrs/week), daily professional dress code, and no liquids makes me wonder how committed they are to this.

To be fair, that's kind of what the pathways are for. LECOM has gone out of its way to setup multiple pathways to fit different learning styles. If you choose the wrong one, is it really all the school's fault?

there is a difference when such rules are essential. You HAVE to be in a hospital, OR, clinic, whatever, to carry out certain duties. You had better be dressed appropriately during patient encounters. You don't need be sitting in an auditorium at 8 AM, dressed in a coat and tie, and be spoken at in order to learn the steps of glycolysis and gluconeogenesis...

No coat, just tie. PBL = 8am becomes a rare occurrence, painful when it does happen though.

Why can't you see a patient in shorts and a t-shirt? I mean if that's what makes you comfortable, why not? It would be nice if it didn't matter in the real world, but the truth is you'll be judged by your patients, peers, etc. and worse yet losing the confidence of your patients and making them feel less comfortable is counterproductive to doing your job.

LECOM tries to hammer that in from the get-go. When I started, I didn't really see the point of it, but I also didn't care. Something I noticed along the way though is that not only does it help the random people that simply don't get that you have to carry yourself in a certain way in a hospital/with a patient (yes, shockingly there are tons of people like this even in med school), but also by being forced to dress professionally, we take what we do more seriously.

This is a "profession" (I can't believe I'm actually saying it like this, but at least on some level it's accurate), and what we learn as med students and what we do as physicians is important, and we really should be treating it that way. It may not be as important as being in a hospital with a patient, but by treating the whole process like it's important, it changes how I personally treat the day-to-day work. It's doesn't feel like just school, it doesn't feel like just a job, and I don't think it should.

That's not for everybody. And God knows there are days where it's a pain, but I like the mindset it puts me in. You may not like the way they do things, but it works on some level. LECOM has good results at a minimum cost to the students.

It's very similar, from what I gathered at my LECOM interview. We have weekly group cases, we study objectives for the cases and the week's lectures, and we do a session where we integrate everything together. The big difference seems to be that we've got the option of in-person lectures if that's what we're down for.

We don't really have study objectives per se, it's more like we choose readings in our text books that are at least supposed to be somewhat related to the cases we cover. 7 cases a block (~1 case/month), 100 or so pages per case. We get a 4 hr exam each block that covers the material from the case.

I think DSP might be similar to your PBL, just without the cases (I guess that's a big part). From what I understand, DSP gets objectives, meets regularly with advisors, has the choice of attending lectures with LDP students, and then is tested more frequently (every couple weeks?).
 
To be fair, that's kind of what the pathways are for. LECOM has gone out of its way to setup multiple pathways to fit different learning styles. If you choose the wrong one, is it really all the school's fault?
I really meant encouraging students to find a successful method for success, given what is possible, within their pathway. There is no substitute for being at your PBL meetings. There is no substitute for being at your clinical or OMM labs. There is a substitute for sitting in hours of lectures.

As a PBL student you don't have lectures to guide you but you are free to choose what resources to use, and when and where to study. As an LDP student, you must attend 30+ hrs of lecture/week-- even though there is a workable, non-disruptive alternative method for succeeding within that curriculum: studying notes, recordings(?), or review books from home. If the latter will work better for the student, the school should encourage them to pursue it.

As long as you pass your classes, why do they care how you achieve this? Why do they insist on lecture attendance when there exists a workable alternative to succeeding within that pathway?

Yes, professionalism is an important value. But this does not need to come at the cost of 30+ hours/week of study time.

let me post this beatiful statement again-

So far, I feel that the UMDNJ deans are WAY more focused on our results than they are on our study methods...
Our deans strive for providing us an environment in which we can reach our peak potential...if that means chilling at home and watching the lectures at a faster speed then they shall provide you with just that...
 
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LECOM (among other schools) does many of its students a great disservice by mandating class attendance. Just because they are ABLE to do this does NOT make it right-- and it betrays my conscience to not take a stand against it.
 
LECOM (among other schools) does many of its students a great disservice by mandating class attendance. Just because they are ABLE to do this does NOT make it right-- and it betrays my conscience to not take a stand against it.
You do realize that once you get into residency you will have MANDATORY lectures to the tune of Morning Report and Noon lecture? There won't be any of this, "Mr. Program Director, I just don't think it's right that I have to listen the doctor who took the time out of his schedule to try to teach us something", therefore I choose not to go and am going to goof off at home. You will be asked to leave residency for sure as I have seen it happen. Good luck with that.
 
After actually touring LECOM, being at the facility, meeting the professors/faculty/etc, a lot of the hate on SDN is ridiculous and ironically seems to be from people who have never actually stepped foot on the campus.

Seeing the students in professional dress was refreshing after being at a few schools with students in hoodies, sweatpants, workout clothes, etc. Nothing was worse in undergrad than sitting next to someone wearing their pajamas and looking like they just rolled out of bed to come in and watch netflix in class. I would hope that professional school would entice students to dress well, dress policy or not.

If you don't want to attend class, LECOM is not the only school that has mandatory attendance so I'm not sure why they seem to get singled out. Additionally PBL meets for 6 hours a week and is all self-study if thats what you want.

If it was me, my decision would be between NYCOM and LECOM, and I would be choosing based on location and budget. LECOM is enticing because of tuition and COL, NYCOM is enticing because of location. Of course you could have family in Maine which would make UNE your top choice. It is all so subjective, you need to figure out whats important to you and your education rather than what a bunch of people on SDN who have likely never even actually seen all three schools have to say.
 
After actually touring LECOM, being at the facility, meeting the professors/faculty/etc, a lot of the hate on SDN is ridiculous and ironically seems to be from people who have never actually stepped foot on the campus.

Seeing the students in professional dress was refreshing after being at a few schools with students in hoodies, sweatpants, workout clothes, etc. Nothing was worse in undergrad than sitting next to someone wearing their pajamas and looking like they just rolled out of bed to come in and watch netflix in class. I would hope that professional school would entice students to dress well, dress policy or not.

If you don't want to attend class, LECOM is not the only school that has mandatory attendance so I'm not sure why they seem to get singled out. Additionally PBL meets for 6 hours a week and is all self-study if thats what you want.

If it was me, my decision would be between NYCOM and LECOM, and I would be choosing based on location and budget. LECOM is enticing because of tuition and COL, NYCOM is enticing because of location. Of course you could have family in Maine which would make UNE your top choice. It is all so subjective, you need to figure out whats important to you and your education rather than what a bunch of people on SDN who have likely never even actually seen all three schools have to say.
What's wrong with showing up to class dressed how you want? We have required preceptor dress days at UNE when we have guest speakers and there's a need for it, but for just learning basic sciences, jeans and a hoodie are fine. I don't really hate on LECOM- it's a certain sort of environment that some people can handle better than others. I couldn't deal, but some people like structure. For those people, LECOM is fine. Some people like clean, efficient, neat. But the environment of LECOM freaked me out, because I'm a person that naturally prefers less structure to my surroundings and too much of it just weirds me out and makes me feel like I'm in a prison. For people who just want to go to medical school in as relaxed of an environment as possible, I recommend UNE. Can't really comment as to NYCOM. All the information I have on them is quite old. LECOM is a fine school, if it's up your alley.
 
What's wrong with showing up to class dressed how you want? We have required preceptor dress days at UNE when we have guest speakers and there's a need for it, but for just learning basic sciences, jeans and a hoodie are fine. I don't really hate on LECOM- it's a certain sort of environment that some people can handle better than others. I couldn't deal, but some people like structure. For those people, LECOM is fine. Some people like clean, efficient, neat. But the environment of LECOM freaked me out, because I'm a person that naturally prefers less structure to my surroundings and too much of it just weirds me out and makes me feel like I'm in a prison. For people who just want to go to medical school in as relaxed of an environment as possible, I recommend UNE. Can't really comment as to NYCOM. All the information I have on them is quite old. LECOM is a fine school, if it's up your alley.
But you're not saying UNECOM is unstructured, right? Or is it more of what you choose to make it?
 
But you're not saying UNECOM is unstructured, right? Or is it more of what you choose to make it?
You can do what you want, though there's a bit of built in structure. We've actually probably got more required hours than LECOM PBL students lol. Between anatomy lab, OMM lab, the weekly practice conference, and a couple of other things, I think I totaled it up to between 17 and 19 hours of required class a week.
 
You do realize that once you get into residency you will have MANDATORY lectures to the tune of Morning Report and Noon lecture? There won't be any of this, "Mr. Program Director, I just don't think it's right that I have to listen the doctor who took the time out of his schedule to try to teach us something", therefore I choose not to go and am going to goof off at home. You will be asked to leave residency for sure as I have seen it happen. Good luck with that.
how many lecture hours are there per week during residency?
 
how many lecture hours are there per week during residency?
Ahhh, got your attention. I can hear the wheels turning.
My residency was 3 hr/day = 15 hours. You cannot be late, you cannot miss, there are no excuses. You better be arrested or a patient in the hospital.
I will also mention that you will be expected to be in clinic on your assigned days AND you will be summoned to round with the Attending when it suits their schedule, not yours.
 
Out of those three, I would choose UNECOM. I personally have always gotten a weird vibe off of LECOM that I cannot place, it might have something to do with the persnickety rules. Despite being from NY state myself, I have no point of reference on NYIT, as its location does not interest me in the least and I did not research the school or apply there.

I completely agree about the LECOM vibe. Personally, I would choose NYCOM over UNECOM because of their reputation and match stats.
 
Ahhh, got your attention. I can hear the wheels turning.
My residency was 3 hr/day = 15 hours. You cannot be late, you cannot miss, there are no excuses. You better be arrested or a patient in the hospital.
I will also mention that you will be expected to be in clinic on your assigned days AND you will be summoned to round with the Attending when it suits their schedule, not yours.

I think this just validates the argument against LECOM's rules. If I'm being forced to do it then, and forever forward for the rest of my life, why wouldn't you want to at least be able to enjoy the little freedom you could get at a different school right now. Everyone will have to adjust to being a professional, and whether they have to do it the hard way or the easy way is up to them.

I'm not hating on LECOM, I thought it was unique when I interviewed there last week, just not for me. I'd much rather enjoy wearing scrubs as attire, or whatever else I find comfortable while I can in medical school, and then suck it up and suffer later when I absolutely have to.

Nova has a pretty awesome dress code though too, they mandate their students wear scrubs at all times and a white coat on top... if you ask me, that's the best combo of professional clinical attire + comfort.
 
Don't mind my avatar, but I'm all about being comfortable. If it makes you feel 🙂, you work 🙂. 21 years of working, 13 in the financial industry, only 1 of which I had to wear a shirt and tie. The dress code and other silly rules made it unbearable, as it probably did with most of my coworkers (very high turnover). When the Wall Street firm I'm with now was being bought, the new owners asked all of us what was important to us. The survey result was bonus #1, casual dress code #2. We kept both.

Choose whichever path that will make you achieve your goal. I envy you for getting multiple acceptances. I have limited my chances by only applying to a few schools, 1 with mandatory attendance, 1 with a dress code, the rest had neither. It may sound silly to some, but I know I would not survive medical school wearing a tie while sitting in lecture all day. If it takes me an extra cycle or a SMP to get into school without those rules, so be it. The key is to stay in after getting in.
 
Sigh, such children who have NO idea what life is about and that sometimes you just have to suck it up and suffer through to achieve that goal in the end.

This will likely be my last post on this thread, it was fun till you made such an overly vague comment that fits the bill for almost anybody on this planet (I mean come on, does anyone really know what life is about, it's the most subjective thing in the world) ~ but regardless, here goes nothing:

You are probably right, and I agree with you that I have NO idea what life is about. But I know this, I'm only so young and that too only for so long, before bills, a spouse, kids, my health, and more bills wear me down forever forward, despite how much money I (may) have.

Thankfully I have options right now, and I don't have to suck it up and suffer through my youth to achieve what I want to; I've been fortunate enough to have parents, friends, and family that helped me make the right decisions, so I could choose to go to a school where I would be able to learn comfortably in the way that best suits me.

It was never just about the dress code, it was just a small example of what did not jive with me.

With that being said, I respect your years of experience (or at least what I can infer from your SDN titles/accolades), and hope that maybe you too can agree to disagree on what we believe life is about?
 
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I always agree to disagree. Trust me there are plenty of things in this world that I don't think are right and believe me there were plenty of battles I felt were worth fighting for during medical school and residency but life it too short to limit your end goal by a silly dress code.
 
interviewed at LECOM-B. Saw the dress code rule and honestly, I dont see the big deal. I personally prefer the gesture of preparing us to dress professionally. I like to think that our careers start now with medical school and that means acting like a professional now. Same goes for lecture.

However, we come to medical school to learn medicine, not care about what we're wearing or what time we're called in to work. Thats all part of what we signed up for. It might be a pain at first, but ill get use to it, just like anyone else, cause we'll have MUCH MUCH bigger things to worry about. If its seriously that BIG of a problem to adjust to the lectures and dress code, just dont come here. Simple as that.
 
to the best of my knowledge...

Pro-LECOM group feels these policies are positive as they help students prepare to deal with rules, dress professionally, be prompt, and attend required events-- as such things will undoubtedly be a part of their future.

Anti-LECOM group feels that these strict rules--for preclinical years-- are simply unnecessary and potentially counterproductive to students' success.
 
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I believe if one chooses the PBL pathway at LECOM, the number of hours you have to go to school is minimal so it really does not sound like that big of an issue. I had to dress up for school all my life before starting college,and it's really not an issue once you get into the habit of doing it.
 
How much of an advantage would attending UNE be for someone who wants to live and practice in New England, compared to the other schools despite all of them being in "Region 1"?
 
How much of an advantage would attending UNE be for someone who wants to live and practice in New England, compared to the other schools despite all of them being in "Region 1"?

A definite advantage.
 
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