Lehninger's Biochem text

[ngkats]

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Anybody familiar with Lehninger Biochemistry texts? Most med students seem to exclusively use Lippincott's. Is the Lippincott's a good biochem reference as well?

I'm going to assume that the Lehniger text is not as detailed as the Lippincott one. But is this a good book to have in addition to Lippincott?

Thanks all.

 

[kac714]

i used lehninger in undergrad... good book, but idk if its detailed enough for med school.

 

[drizzt3117]

I think it would be a useful book for med school. The Lippincott is illustrated and has very good diagrams, and many med schools use the exact same diagrams which is helpful.

 

[RevivedPreMed]

I used Lehninger's for biochem and I loved it. I know that the med school has the same teacher and uses this same text so I guess it depends on the school you go to. I found Lehninger to be extremely detailed so I'm curious to see how much more detail the other text has. Kind of a scary thought!

 

[redsquareblack]

Dude, beg, borrow, or steal a used copy of Mathews. You will not regret it. It got me through medical biochem. (I did use Lippincott, also) with the highest grade in the class.

 

[pianola]

I <3ed Lehninger's. My dad teaches biochem at a public university and he likes Lehninger best.

My $0.02. Haven't seen Lippincott but I will probably be checking it out.

 

[drizzt3117]

I used Lehninger's for biochem and I loved it. I know that the med school has the same teacher and uses this same text so I guess it depends on the school you go to. I found Lehninger to be extremely detailed so I'm curious to see how much more detail the other text has. Kind of a scary thought!

I'm not sure that Lippincott is more detailed, it's a smaller book than Lehninger's IIRC.

 

[pianola]

I'm not sure that Lippincott is more detailed, it's a smaller book than Lehninger's IIRC.

Lehninger's was my largest undergrad textbook.

 

[ngkats]

Lehninger's was my largest undergrad textbook.

One of my largest too.

 

[melanoleuca]

I used Lehninger's for biochem and I loved it. I know that the med school has the same teacher and uses this same text so I guess it depends on the school you go to. I found Lehninger to be extremely detailed so I'm curious to see how much more detail the other text has. Kind of a scary thought!

Lehninger's is a good book but it is way, way too detailed for medical school biochemistry. Get a good review book (like Lippincott) and eschew the big textbook, something that you will simply not have that much time to read.

 

[ngkats]

Lehninger's is a good book but it is way, way too detailed for medical school biochemistry. Get a good review book (like Lippincott) and eschew the big textbook, something that you will simply not have that much time to read.

Really? I hope this is true. When I studied from it, there was so much information that I found it surprising that a medical school course would go into detail much beyond what Lehninger described.

Others agree?

 

[BlueElmo]

I used Lehninger for my undergrad biochem, it's way too detailed. I didn't like it. And it's so freaking heavy! Almost as big as Campbell Biology book.

 

[kingofthehill]

Really? I hope this is true. When I studied from it, there was so much information that I found it surprising that a medical school course would go into detail much beyond what Lehninger described.

Others agree?

Hell yes! Just take a look at Ch 22 and tell me you have to know all that **** to be a good doctor. It's nauseating. 😱 The test over that was about a month ago and I've flushed just about all but 2% of it. If your patient has some funky rare enzymatic deficiency then can't you just look it up?

 

[copperfrog09]

Dude, beg, borrow, or steal a used copy of Mathews. You will not regret it. It got me through medical biochem. (I did use Lippincott, also) with the highest grade in the class.

Do you mean the "short course" or the actual Matthews textbook?

Also, I used Lehninger in undergrad,, and sold it back thinking it would be too simple to bother using for med school biochem! 😆 Looks like I'm going to wish I'd kept it..

 

[chemnerd89]

I'm using Lehninger for undergrad right now, and I agree that it's huge and very detailed.

 

[ThaliaNox]

I had one of my admissions interviews with the instructor for the biochemistry course at that school and he said (a bit bitterly!) that the biochemistry he taught was significantly less detailed than what is taught in an undergraduate biochemistry course, but slightly more human/medically oriented. He also mentioned that it has become less detailed in recent years due to increasing numbers of students with what he called "an insufficient science background... damn music majors!" I don't remember how he ended up on this topic, but it seemed to be a pet peeve of his.

 

[pianola]

I had one of my admissions interviews with the instructor for the biochemistry course at that school and he said (a bit bitterly!) that the biochemistry he taught was significantly less detailed than what is taught in an undergraduate biochemistry course, but slightly more human/medically oriented. He also mentioned that it has become less detailed in recent years due to increasing numbers of students with what he called "an insufficient science background... damn music majors!" I don't remember how he ended up on this topic, but it seemed to be a pet peeve of his.

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But...aw shucks.

 

[Kaustikos]

That lehningner is probably the most worthwhile book I have ever purchased during undergrad. I love it and has been a life saver for referencing while working. It's detailed, but not convoluted or boring like most other text books. That and who doesn't like biochemistry?

 

[RevivedPreMed]

That lehningner is probably the most worthwhile book I have ever purchased during undergrad. I love it and has been a life saver for referencing while working. It's detailed, but not convoluted or boring like most other text books. That and who doesn't like biochemistry?

I agreed. All my friends think it's dense but I think it's an easy read. I learn much more from reading than going to lecture so I just learned straight from the book.

 

[redsquareblack]

Do you mean the "short course" or the actual Matthews textbook?

Also, I used Lehninger in undergrad,, and sold it back thinking it would be too simple to bother using for med school biochem! 😆 Looks like I'm going to wish I'd kept it..

Actual textbook. The Mathews is spectacular (although incorrect in some of its particulars).

I wouldn't worry too much about medical biochemistry. Moves quickly, but not too crazy.

 

[MilkmanAl]

Lehninger's is a good book but it is way, way too detailed for medical school biochemistry. Get a good review book (like Lippincott) and eschew the big textbook, something that you will simply not have that much time to read.

This is spot on. Lippincott's is sometimes even a little too detailed. You don't have time to be screwing around with info you don't need in med school, so don't get any of the big texts. You're wasting your money and time.

 

[87138]

I'm just stopping by to echo melanoleuca and MilkmanAl.

You will not need Lehninger in medical school.

Lippincott is much much shorter/succinct/helpful than Lehninger, but even it isn't something meant to be read cover to cover at all. Just a helpful resource in case your profs' notes suck.

Lehninger might be great for undergrad, but it's absolutely not needed/warranted in medical school biochemistry. Trust me.

 

[87138]

Also, I used Lehninger in undergrad,, and sold it back thinking it would be too simple to bother using for med school biochem! 😆 Looks like I'm going to wish I'd kept it..

On the contrary, it's much more complex/detailed than you'll ever need in medical school.

 

[Spiker]

Fk am i the only one got voet& voet??? and just curious so in med school they recommend books instead of require them? (btw do they use THE CELL, red covered? My teacher told me they do so I havent sold my yet)

 

[funkydrmonkey]

Fk am i the only one got voet& voet??? and just curious so in med school they recommend books instead of require them? (btw do they use THE CELL, red covered? My teacher told me they do so I havent sold my yet)

They use Voet at UCLA for Undergrad Biochem, but most med schools say that Lippincott is enough for med school... I agree with the sentiment that Lehninger is too detailed... I remember that when i took biochem at UCI, we were supposed to read Lehninger, but I could not do it

Actually, now that I remember, Lehninger is used at some med schools but it is for supplementary reading, however...

 

[dragonfly99]

I don't know about this Lippincott's book, but the Lehninger book, while a very good biochem textbook, is a big fat heavy textbook that is very detailed. You won't have time to read it extensively in med school, though having a copy might be useful. To survive med school classes you usually have to memorize the notes and/or lecture transcript (i.e what the profs think is important for the exam) because there are too many classes and the pace too rapid to keep up with all the supposedly suggested and required textbook reading.

 

[Snake Doctor]

They use Voet at UCLA for Undergrad Biochem, but most med schools say that Lippincott is enough for med school... I agree with the sentiment that Lehninger is too detailed... I

UCLA uses Lehninger too. It depends on the professor. I used the customized UCLA edition, which was pretty light but still way too detailed!

 

[SDN2013]

my undergrad uses lehninger's. I bought the book but never used it, I only studied from lecture notes. We have "special" lecturers for our biochemistry courses hehe.