Let's Be Nice

[JasonE]

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Just a reminder, be nice to your fellow applicants! if you were lucky enough to get accepted at a school like, withdraw from schools you know you wouldn't attend!

 

[longhorn09]

Definitely!

 

[medcourses09]

Just a reminder, be nice to your fellow applicants! if you were lucky enough to get accepted at a school like, withdraw from schools you know you wouldn't attend!

But, but, but, but some posters need to know the reality of what they are talking about. I've seen so many unrealistic viewpoints posted by so many pre-meds that being a little harsh is about the only way to get it through their think skulls.

 

[tennisball80]

lol. Sounds good.

 

[MilkmanAl]

We go through this mess every year. The vast majority of people won't (and shouldn't) withdraw from schools until they have their financial aid packages in. That is, everyone who does not immediately get a full ride plus cost of living stipend at his top choice will be riding out those acceptances until spring.

 

[mrmilad]

we go through this mess every year. The vast majority of people won't (and shouldn't) withdraw from schools until they have their financial aid packages in. That is, everyone who does not immediately get a full ride plus cost of living stipend at his top choice will be riding out those acceptances until spring.

+1

 

[TooMuchResearch]

+1

 

[JasonE]

i'm talking about schools you have NOT gotten an interview at or have not attended the interview. why go attend an interview if you know you are not going to go there. that is just damn rude especially if they interviewer asks you "why do you want to go to school X?"

 

[RogueUnicorn]

i'm talking about schools you have NOT gotten an interview at or have not attended the interview. why go attend an interview if you know you are not going to go there. that is just damn rude especially if they interviewer asks you "why do you want to go to school X?"

would you like some cheese with that whine

 

[JasonE]

would you like some cheese with that whine

clever.....................
i personally did get in...and then withdrew from 10+ schools. so im not the one asking for any help here

 

[MilkmanAl]

why go attend an interview if you know you are not going to go there.

Leverage against other schools and the possibility of getting that full ride+stipend. If you have the cash to attend tons of "extra" interviews, doing so isn't rude; it's smart.

 

[JasonE]

Leverage against other schools and the possibility of getting that full ride+stipend. If you have the cash to attend tons of "extra" interviews, doing so isn't rude; it's smart.

you wont get any leverage if the school knows you arent going there. getting accepted to harvard and then interviewing at boston university and then getting accepted means nothing. you wont get jack ****. ppl arent stupid

 

[H2O2]

you wont get any leverage if the school knows you arent going there. getting accepted to harvard and then interviewing at boston university and then getting accepted means nothing. you wont get jack ****. ppl arent stupid

Do you know of any case where somebody paid for $200+ plane ticket, +hotel and worrying about time off, to interview at a school they adamantly wont attend? I think you are describing a phenomena that doesn't exist, and if it does...that person must either be stupid or rich. If they are rich, they still wouldn't want to waste their time.

Don't forget that interviews are just as much for the applicant as they are the school. Its a two way street

 

[MilkmanAl]

you wont get any leverage if the school knows you arent going there. getting accepted to harvard and then interviewing at boston university and then getting accepted means nothing. you wont get jack ****. ppl arent stupid

Uh...how would the school know you weren't going there? If I recall, the first time that schools that have accepted can see which other schools accepted you is March 15. Given your "ppl aren't stupid" angle, wouldn't these non-stupid ppl probably (or at least be much more likely to) choose BU debt-free over Harvard at full price? In a sense, schools knowing where you've been accepted might actually make you even more likely to get som extra money.

 

[JasonE]

Uh...how would the school know you weren't going there? If I recall, the first time that schools that have accepted can see which other schools accepted you is March 15. Given your "ppl aren't stupid" angle, wouldn't these non-stupid ppl probably (or at least be much more likely to) choose BU debt-free over Harvard at full price?

if you KNEW 100% that you would go to harvard over BU even if BU gave you a 200% scholarship, then just withdraw.

plus TONS TONS TONS of ppl go to "better" schools over scholarships. i know a handful of kids who went to hopkins over a vandy full scholarship. it happens all the time.

harvard would have no incentive to buy you away from BU. why would they? if they did, i guess i should have applied to all the carribean schools too. who knows, harvard may throw some money my way so i dont go party it up on an island.

 

[MilkmanAl]

Look, man, you can argue the rudeness and inhumanity of it all 'til your fingers cramp, but eventually you're just going to have to face the fact that it's smart to hoard acceptances and hold them until the end. You will also have to face that it is entirely within the rights of the people who earned those acceptances to do so. It is what they should and will do.

Excuse me while I watch this thread drown in a sea of philosophizing.

 

[JasonE]

Look, man, you can argue the rudeness and inhumanity of it all 'til your fingers cramp, but eventually you're just going to have to face the fact that it's smart to hoard acceptances and hold them until the end. You will also have to face that it is entirely within the rights of the people who earned those acceptances to do so. It is what they should and will do.

Excuse me while I watch this thread drown in a sea of philosophizing.

no one said you need to turn down acceptances. its about the schools you are still waiting on and the interviews not attended.

 

[dw2158]

Look, man, you can argue the rudeness and inhumanity of it all 'til your fingers cramp, but eventually you're just going to have to face the fact that it's smart to hoard acceptances and hold them until the end. You will also have to face that it is entirely within the rights of the people who earned those acceptances to do so. It is what they should and will do.

Excuse me while I watch this thread drown in a sea of philosophizing.

agreed.

 

[JJMrK]

We go through this mess every year. The vast majority of people won't (and shouldn't) withdraw from schools until they have their financial aid packages in. That is, everyone who does not immediately get a full ride plus cost of living stipend at his top choice will be riding out those acceptances until spring.

Agreed. 👍

 

[dw2158]

no one said you need to turn down acceptances. its about the schools you are still waiting on and the interviews not attended.

and why shouldn't you go to those interviews to see how many acceptances you can get? it is 100% within your rights to go to the interviews you've earned, just as MilkmanAl said it's fine to hoard acceptances you earned. you're not going to convince people here. stop trying.

 

[RogueUnicorn]

Look, man, you can argue the rudeness and inhumanity of it all 'til your fingers cramp, but eventually you're just going to have to face the fact that it's smart to hoard acceptances and hold them until the end. You will also have to face that it is entirely within the rights of the people who earned those acceptances to do so. It is what they should and will do.

Excuse me while I watch this thread drown in a sea of philosophizing.

game.
set.
match.

 

[greatnt249]

i'm talking about schools you have NOT gotten an interview at or have not attended the interview. why go attend an interview if you know you are not going to go there. that is just damn rude especially if they interviewer asks you "why do you want to go to school X?"

Why apply to a school you wouldn't plan on attending?

if you KNEW 100% that you would go to harvard over BU even if BU gave you a 200% scholarship, then just withdraw.

plus TONS TONS TONS of ppl go to "better" schools over scholarships. i know a handful of kids who went to hopkins over a vandy full scholarship. it happens all the time.

harvard would have no incentive to buy you away from BU. why would they? if they did, i guess i should have applied to all the carribean schools too. who knows, harvard may throw some money my way so i dont go party it up on an island.

Why are you even complaining? If you were going to get off of a waitlist, you'd get off the waitlist; it isn't as if delayed withdrawals are going to change that.

 

[JasonE]

Why apply to a school you wouldn't plan on attending?



Why are you even complaining? If you were going to get off of a waitlist, you'd get off the waitlist; it isn't as if delayed withdrawals are going to change that.

first of all, no one is complaining. second of all, ppl apply to safety schools. no i wouldnt want to attend them, but if thats all i got, i would go. its that simple. im sure you did it too.

and yes, if i withdrew early from a school i got an interview at because i knew i wouldnt go there over my accepted school, that interview slot would most likely go to someone else who MIGHT REALLY WANT IT. understand?

i guess its to be expected that all the premed psychos just want to get into as many schools as possible. thats how they have been conditioned.

 

[RogueUnicorn]

first of all, no one is complaining. second of all, ppl apply to safety schools. no i wouldnt want to attend them, but if thats all i got, i would go. its that simple. im sure you did it too.

i guess its to be expected that all the premed psychos just want to get into as many schools as possible. thats how they have been conditioned.

yea. what kind of ***hole wants to keep his mind and options open.

 

[JasonE]

yea. what kind of ***hole wants to keep his mind and options open.

jesus god damn christ. if you are debating it then ya, dont withdraw. no one said that. forget it. no one has any courtesy in this world. too busy trying to oneup each other. i hope you dont end up in the same school i do.

 

[RogueUnicorn]

jesus god damn christ. if you are debating it then ya, dont withdraw. no one said that. forget it. no one has any courtesy in this world. too busy trying to oneup each other. i hope you dont end up in the same school i do.

man you have a really high opinion of yourself

 

[JasonE]

man you have a really high opinion of yourself

where did you get that from?

 

[RogueUnicorn]

where did you get that from?

the fact that you are on a very high horse. do you consider your opinions and actions to be a shining beacon for humanity? it sure seems so.

 

[JJMrK]

first of all, no one is complaining. second of all, ppl apply to safety schools. no i wouldnt want to attend them, but if thats all i got, i would go. its that simple. im sure you did it too.

and yes, if i withdrew early from a school i got an interview at because i knew i wouldnt go there over my accepted school, that interview slot would most likely go to someone else who MIGHT REALLY WANT IT. understand?

i guess its to be expected that all the premed psychos just want to get into as many schools as possible. thats how they have been conditioned.

That's what makes sense. Med school loans are a huge financial burden; taking every opportunity to reduce one's debt-load only makes sense.

It has nothing to do with courtesy or trying to "one-up" each other. Everybody here wants to see everybody else succeed in this crazy process.

 

[JasonE]

That's what makes sense. Med school loans are a huge financial burden; taking every opportunity to reduce one's debt-load only makes sense.

It has nothing to do with courtesy or trying to "one-up" each other. Everybody here wants to see everybody else succeed in this crazy process.

i agree. but the number of acceptances wont matter. its the quality. unless you are looking for the free ride anywhere, why not withdraw if finance isnt the issue? like i said, no top school is going to care if you got 15+ acceptances from low tier schools, there is nothing to buy you away from.

 

[JasonE]

the fact that you are on a very high horse. do you consider your opinions and actions to be a shining beacon for humanity? it sure seems so.

you are making your own assumptions there based on black and white text.

and its about being nice to fellow applicants. in fact, i should go to all my interviews, even though i dont care about $. ill tell them all they are my top choice too. i should just gather up all the acceptances i can. why not?

 

[RogueUnicorn]

i agree. but the number of acceptances wont matter. its the quality. unless you are looking for the free ride anywhere, why not withdraw if finance isnt the issue? like i said, no top school is going to care if you got 15+ acceptances from low tier schools, there is nothing to buy you away from.

and thus you're revealing your own closedmindedness that no one would ever go to a lower tier school over a top school. additionally, what planet do you come from where people get 15+ acceptances

 

[RogueUnicorn]

no its about being nice to fellow applicants. in fact, i should go to all my interviews, even though i dont care about $. ill tell them all they are my top choice too. i should just gather up all the acceptances i can. why not?

are you listening to yourself right now?

 

[strummin]

Look, man, you can argue the rudeness and inhumanity of it all 'til your fingers cramp, but eventually you're just going to have to face the fact that it's smart to hoard acceptances and hold them until the end. You will also have to face that it is entirely within the rights of the people who earned those acceptances to do so. It is what they should and will do.

👍👍👍

 

[JasonE]

are you listening to yourself right now?

just forget it. i guess i wont withdraw. and yes, i do know applicants from the past who have gotten MANY MANY acceptances. its not hard if you have a good mcat and gpa

 

[dw2158]

you are making your own assumptions there based on black and white text.

and its about being nice to fellow applicants. in fact, i should go to all my interviews, even though i dont care about $. ill tell them all they are my top choice too. i should just gather up all the acceptances i can. why not?

first of all, 🤣

second of all, i echo your question: why not? everyone chooses schools to apply to based on their own individual criteria. some people apply to more than others. some people have a better shot at getting in to one or more schools than others. but no matter what, everyone can only occupy one seat in an entering class at a medical school. hoping for as many acceptances as possibly doesn't mean you're sabotaging others' chances. trying to do the best you can during this process does not in any way mean that you are attempting to be anything other than "nice" to your fellow applicants. you're doing your best, they're doing theirs... and in the end you'll hopefully both end up with your @sses in medical school.

 

[JJMrK]

i agree. but the number of acceptances wont matter. its the quality. unless you are looking for the free ride anywhere, why not withdraw if finance isnt the issue? like i said, no top school is going to care if you got 15+ acceptances from low tier schools, there is nothing to buy you away from.

I don't know, I can't answer this question. Financial realities are the single most important factor for me when it comes to choosing a school. I imagine that it's also very important to most people on SDN, which is why no one is really agreeing with you. If your strategy is just to go to the highest ranked school regardless of money, then withdrawing from a ton of schools if you get into a top 25 makes sense. Most people don't follow that philosophy, however.

 

[JasonE]

I don't know, I can't answer this question. Financial realities are the single most important factor for me when it comes to choosing a school. I imagine that it's also very important to most people on SDN, which is why no one is really agreeing with you. If your strategy is just to go to the highest ranked school regardless of money, then withdrawing from a ton of schools if you get into a top 25 makes sense. Most people don't follow that philosophy, however.

take this for example. i know a kid from texas who wants to go to texas for med school. great stats everything. instate tuitions its dirt cheap. he gets in, but still attends interviews everywhere he gets one. ends up in texas just like he wanted. does that make sense?

 

[BlueElmo]

People withdraw when you get an acceptance.

I hate watching one person getting ripped apart by the masses, so I'm siding with JasonE, whether I agree with him or not.

Withdraw!!

 

[dw2158]

I don't know, I can't answer this question. Financial realities are the single most important factor for me when it comes to choosing a school. I imagine that it's also very important to most people on SDN, which is why no one is really agreeing with you. If your strategy is just to go to the highest ranked school regardless of money, then withdrawing from a ton of schools if you get into a top 25 makes sense. Most people don't follow that philosophy, however.

i can answer your question, because finance is NOT the #1 thing i'm considering in choosing a school. i mean, it will play a big role, but other things come first on my list. (yes, i realize that this is an unpopular perspective on SDN, but shut up so i can make this post. thanks.)

i hadn't been to any of the medical schools on my list before interview season, save 2. i was trying to reserve judgment about the rest of the schools until i actually had the chance to visit and meet people. i want to pick a school where i'll be happy, and i'm making no assumptions about whether that will be the highest ranked school on my list or the cheapest school on my list, or the school with the hottest guys on my list or the school with the best food on my list. i want a chance to feel it out. so that's why i wouldn't "automatically withdraw" from the rest of my schools upon receiving an acceptance.

(that said, after getting H1N1 and being totally exhausted from running around to interviews and missing a crapload of work, i did exactly what the OP would have wanted me to do and withdrew from 4 schools once i got an acceptance. but i promise, it was for selfish reasons, not because i agree with the OP!)

 

[dw2158]

take this for example. i know a kid from texas who wants to go to texas for med school. great stats everything. instate tuitions its dirt cheap. he gets in, but still attends interviews everywhere he gets one. ends up in texas just like he wanted. does that make sense?

i'm guessing that cases like this are such an unbelievably minuscule portion of the applicant pool that it is a huge waste of your time to make a thread like this, if that kind of shiz is what it's about. 🙄

 

[JasonE]

i can answer your question, because finance is NOT the #1 thing i'm considering in choosing a school. i mean, it will play a big role, but other things come first on my list. (yes, i realize that this is an unpopular perspective on SDN, but shut up so i can make this post. thanks.)

i hadn't been to any of the medical schools on my list before interview season, save 2. i was trying to reserve judgment about the rest of the schools until i actually had the chance to visit and meet people. i want to pick a school where i'll be happy, and i'm making no assumptions about whether that will be the highest ranked school on my list or the cheapest school on my list, or the school with the hottest guys on my list or the school with the best food on my list. i want a chance to feel it out. so that's why i wouldn't "automatically withdraw" from the rest of my schools upon receiving an acceptance.

(that said, after getting H1N1 and being totally exhausted from running around to interviews and missing a crapload of work, i did exactly what the OP would have wanted me to do and withdrew from 4 schools once i got an acceptance. but i promise, it was for selfish reasons, not because i agree with the OP!)

thats legit since you had no idea. but a good portion of us know exactly where we would go over other schools. individual rank (1,2,3,4) isnt a big part, but the tier often is (top 10 vs. over 50)

 

[RogueUnicorn]

thats legit since you had no idea. but a good portion of us know exactly where we would go over other schools. individual rank (1,2,3,4) isnt a big part, but the tier is (top 10 vs. over 50)

you've talked a to a good portion of us, then? made a poll perhaps?

 

[JasonE]

seriously? im pretty sure most applicants know what schools they would love to attend and which are safety. you're saying most ppl have equal feelings about every school on their list?

 

[RogueUnicorn]

seriously? im pretty sure most applicants know what schools they would love to attend and which are safety. you're saying most ppl have equal feelings about every school on their list?

i'm saying i don't make a priori judgements on other people's motives.

 

[JasonE]

i'm saying i don't make a priori judgements on other people's motives.

some obvious statements can be made without actual proof. like the fact that 999/1000 ppl would rather go to harvard over the carribean.

 

[RogueUnicorn]

some obvious statements can be made without actual proof. like the fact that 999/1000 ppl would rather go to harvard over the carribean.

except that we're not talking about that. don't be ridiculous.

 

[JJMrK]

take this for example. i know a kid from texas who wants to go to texas for med school. great stats everything. instate tuitions its dirt cheap. he gets in, but still attends interviews everywhere he gets one. ends up in texas just like he wanted. does that make sense?

Personally, I wouldn't do that. That's a huge waste of money. But the guy has earned the right to do it, if he feels like it.

 

[JasonE]

except that we're not talking about that. don't be ridiculous.

saying most ppl have an idea of what schools they would rather attend (in other words, ppl have safety schools) it not ridiculous.

 

[JasonE]

Personally, I wouldn't do that. That's a huge waste of money. But the guy has earned the right to do it, if he feels like it.

he does have the right, but cmon, really?