LGBT and DO

[Neurocentric]

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Horriflying ignorant eh? You would think that I know you since you apparently know so much about me.

This further supports my statement that unless you support every single thing about sexuality you are "horribly ignorant" or a homophobe.

Because it's all in the same package. Being gay just doesn't mean you have a same sex partner. It means a lot of things for different people. And when someone is gay, and you say you accept that, then you should be accepting everything they do/say, and who they are as a whole, not just accepting the fact that they like the same sex, but it's not just about that.

 

[EmersonAnne]

Horriflying ignorant eh? You would think that I know you since you apparently know so much about me.

This further supports my statement that unless you support every single thing about sexuality you are "horribly ignorant" or a homophobe.

I don't have to know you to know you're ignorant on the topic of homosexuals. Your posts have outed you in that regard. Never underestimate the power of the written word.

 

[willen101383]

He might have intentionally kept his voice low, made sure to dress straight, and carried himself in a reserved fashion so that he could pass as straight. As a gay man, when I'm around someone conservative, I always lower my voice, don't talk more than I need to, I pay attention that I don't gesutre too much, and I make sure that I walk like a straight man. Did I choose to have an effeminate voice? No, it just happened, and I feel uncomfortable when I have to change how I act/talk just so someone else feels comfortable. It sucks, but sometimes I have to do it. Do all gay men have effeminate voice and act 'flamboyant?' No, not at all. Rule number one about gay men: not all of us are Niles Cranes of Jack McFarlands

Thank you! This is what I am trying to say. I have no issue with homosexuality. I have no problem hanging out with gay men/women..and in fact I am friends with several gay men. I acknowledge that not all gays are flamboyant. In fact I would say most gays arent flamboyant....in which case their sexuality doesnt bother me in the least bit. I have an issue with people acting flamboyant. I find it odd and annoying. That doesnt make me antigay. But thank you for proposing a reason for my friends sudden change.

 

[willen101383]

I don't have to know you to know you're ignorant on the topic of homosexuals. Your posts have outed you in that regard. Never underestimate the power of the written word.

I would not consider myself ignorant at all with regard to homosexuals. Thanks though. Actually, I would consider myself pretty progressive when it comes to homosexuality....ie I think gays have every right to marry, and have the right to be gay. That doesnt change that flamboyance bothers me...and I dont think the fact that flamboyance bothers me makes me ignorant in the least bit.

 

[EmersonAnne]

....ie I think gays have every right to marry, and have the right to be gay.

You just don't think they should have LGBT clubs and gay pride parades.

 

[willen101383]

You just don't think they should have LGBT clubs and gay pride parades.

On campus no I dont think theyre appropriate. Just like I dont think religious groups are appropriate. However, if you want to be a member of a gay rights organization/religious group thats great. And as far as gay pride parades go...thats fine with me too as long as I am not subjected to people being inappropriate.

I really dont get why you choose to continue to make me out to be someone that I am not. If you were posting saying you had issues with (insert group) displaying what you considered inappropriate behavior in public I would fully support that. Its not like I am posting stuff like "oh thats so gay, or youre a ***." I am simply posting my opinions that I dont think groups revolving around sexuality have any place on med school campuses, and that people choosing to act a certain way annoys me. I am not being derogatory...just stating my opinion.

 

[familyaerospace]

I personally lean towards MD, but if I ended up going DO for whatever reason, I'd be perfectly fine with that as well. I think a lot of the pre-allo people have this notion about being a physician and are still in the wide-eyed phase and haven't really realized what being a doctor entails. Just my thoughts on that.

I personally lean towards MD too, mostly because of some of the research I want to do internationally which would be so much easier with an MD rather than a DO. (DOs aren't recognized as being equivalent.) That being said, if I go DO rather than MD, I will be ok with that. My PCP is a DO and I've yet to see any significant difference. He doesn't even do OMM.

When you get your acceptance letter, you should scan it and PM it to her In all seriousness, though, I think you'll make a fantastic physician. There are quite a few people I see on here who, while I don't know them, honestly seem like they have a real passion for the career, the science, and all of it, and I can't wait to see all of their acceptance threads - or whatever ya'll do when the acceptances roll in 🙂

Thanks. I appreciate it. 🙂 I think I am going to frame my acceptance letters when they come. As well as fax a copy to my mother who didn't expect me to even be able to survive volunteering in the ED!

I've had several people (mostly cisgender straight people) who have already told me they want to be my patient regardless of my specialty, LOL! I told them, "Can't we at least wait for me to get into med school before you drop your doctors like a hot potato?"

 

[willen101383]

Because it's all in the same package. Being gay just doesn't mean you have a same sex partner. It means a lot of things for different people. And when someone is gay, and you say you accept that, then you should be accepting everything they do/say, and who they are as a whole, not just accepting the fact that they like the same sex, but it's not just about that.

Thats right, being gay is a lifestyle not just a sexual preference. Just like being Jewish is a whole lifestyle outside the religious aspect. I am Jewish and I think its bull**** that certain sects of Judiasm openly speak down about other less religious individuals. That doesnt make me antisemetic...just that one aspect practiced by some jews bothers me.

 

[EmersonAnne]

On campus no I dont think theyre appropriate. Just like I dont think religious groups are appropriate. However, if you want to be a member of a gay rights organization/religious group thats great. And as far as gay pride parades go...thats fine with me too as long as I am not subjected to people being inappropriate.

Newsflash -- you're going to be subjected to people being inappropriate everywhere. That's what's insulting about your comments. You take things that aren't exclusive to the gay community and imply that they are -- making out in public, for example, or "inappropriate" behavior. These things don't define the gay community nor are they exclusive to them so for you to use them as your reasons for having a problem with gay clubs, parades, etc. is what's turning posters off.

I really dont get why you choose to continue to make me out to be someone that I am not. If you were posting saying you had issues with (insert group) displaying what you considered inappropriate behavior in public I would fully support that.

And that's great for you. I happen to disagree with your opinions. Am I not allowed to say so?

I am simply posting my opinions that I dont think groups revolving around sexuality have any place on med school campuses

And this is what makes me say that you're ignorant. If you knew anything at all about LGBT clubs, you'd know that they don't "revolve around sexuality."

 

[willen101383]

If not being involved with a gay organization makes me ignorant than I guess I am. I just don't really understand the role of these organizations on campus...perhaps you can fill me in? And you have every right to disagree with me....and I don't disrespect you for that. I realize people are going to be inappropriate everywhere you go. In fact I don't think that gays being inappropriate bothers me bc they are gay,but just bc they are being inappropriate.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

Why in the world would vocal flamboyant homosexuals bother you in the student center as you walk to class? That's ridiculous.

Lol come on the flamers even bother most gays haha. But again, a lot of things irritate people. Welcome to the world, suck it up and learn to live with it.

I'm still amazed this hasn't been closed. We've been derailed beyond belief.

 

[EmersonAnne]

If not being involved with a gay organization makes me ignorant than I guess I am.

Who said anything about being involved? I've never joined a LGBT group, but I know enough to learn about an organization before I publicly diss it.

I just don't really understand the role of these organizations on campus...perhaps you can fill me in?

Fill you in on what? People have already explained the purpose of the organizations. Read the thread again.

And you have every right to disagree with me....and I don't disrespect you for that. I realize people are going to be inappropriate everywhere you go. In fact I don't think that gays being inappropriate bothers me bc they are gay,but just bc they are being inappropriate.

And yet you single them out. Why do you assume that a gay thread about LGBT needs you to come in and inject your opinion about inappropriate behavior? The two aren't related.

 

[willen101383]

Alright emersonanne you can't be reasoned with and your posts are typical of gay supporters: either support homosexuality in its entirety or don't...there is no middle ground. This thead is over for me.

 

[EmersonAnne]

Alright emersonanne you can't be reasoned with and your posts are typical of gay supporters: either support homosexuality in its entirety or don't...there is no middle ground. This thead is over for me.

Ignorance is bliss. 🙂

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

Alright emersonanne you can't be reasoned with and your posts are typical of gay supporters: either support homosexuality in its entirety or don't...there is no middle ground. This thead is over for me.

Sigh and you end this post by giving him all the proof that she's right.

Honestly you 2 can debate this frivolous matter elsewhere. Your sexuality and opinions on it are not medically related. Thus this conversation has lost all its group and purpose for existence.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

Ignorance is bliss. 🙂

Please be civil.

 

[EmersonAnne]

Please be civil.

I was.

 

[willen101383]

I was.

As was I...but this is one of those topics where you either agree or you don't and battling it out just goes in circles.

 

[pmc2025]

I honestly feel like I'm back in High School with the level of bickering happening in this thread. I asked a simple question, and have been watching the replies. As can be typical with threads on this topic, it has been hijacked by people who feel it's their duty to present a counter-argument to homosexuality. That argument has run its course, and I think it's time to move on. Thank you to the poster who linked the information about the Allo LGBT organizations! Admins, if you're there, please lock the thread.


Just for you Willie: HAAAAAAAAY GURRRRRRRRRRLLLLL

 

[willen101383]

I honestly feel like I'm back in High School with the level of bickering happening in this thread. I asked a simple question, and have been watching the replies. As can be typical with threads on this topic, it has been hijacked by people who feel it's their duty to present a counter-argument to homosexuality. That argument has run its course, and I think it's time to move on. Thank you to the poster who linked the information about the Allo LGBT organizations! Admins, if you're there, please lock the thread.


Just for you Willie: HAAAAAAAAY GURRRRRRRRRRLLLLL

LOL thanks for the late night laugh...although I think you were trying to piss me off. It didnt work...flamboyance only pisses me off in person 🙂

 

[ShyRem]

Closing per OP request.