Liberal Arts college?

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Hi. What are everyone's thoughts on attending a liberal arts college for preveterinary studies? I was looking at some colleges and came across a couple women's liberal arts colleges that interest me. Are these kinds of colleges known for providing challenging curriculums to prepare students for professional school? Is attending one of these colleges for prevet frowned upon? Any input would be greatly appreciated.
 
Hi,

My opinion is somewhat biased because I went to a large state school with a fantastic agriculture program. I was able to major in Animal Science which I think gave me an advantage over straight bio or chem majors. I had 2 semesters of animal nutrition, anatomy, physiology, phys of mammalian repro etc in my curriculum as well as fantastic research opportunities within my college. This is why I support pre vets going to a public state school with an ag program. Additionally the cost is usually significantly lower to attend a public school

Dont get me wrong, people I know who have gone to fancy liberal arts colleges have gotten in but I think that they are at a disadvantage because their curriculums are directed towards humans and human biology.

Just my 2 cents.

Beauty
 
Hello Vanderboots...I graduated from Emory Univ. (B.A. in Psychology in 2001) and I will be starting vet school at UGA this fall...So I have many opinions about this topic...First, there are many advantages and disadvantages to attending a liberal arts over public school as a potential pre-vet...As Beauty said, large state school usually have a animal science/agriculture program specifically designed for future vet school applicants and many schools with a vet school allow students to apply for entry following their junior year of college..They earn their bachelor's degree when they complete their first year of vet school...The difference at a liberal arts school is that you usually have more freedom to design your own curriculum in terms of major course of study and electives offered..

I don't believe that students applying to vet school that majored in biology, chemistry, microbiology or even the non-sciences have a disadvantage over the students that apply from an animal science program..But you have to remember that at a liberal arts school you have to go out and take advantages of the resources given to you (such as pre-vet clubs, advisors, etc) while at a state school these things will be more built into the program..

If I were you I would visit both types of schools that you are consider attending, look at the big picture and go to the school that feels more right to you as an individual..If you do choose to go to a liberal arts school, get involved in pre-vet clubs, ask for a pre-vet or science advisor even if you are not majoring in the sciences and seek out classes (and make you more well-rounded) that interest you while completing your prerequisites..Remember that the greatest advantage to a liberal arts school is that it teaches you HOW TO THINK and that is something that is always valuable to you...My opinion is that you will end up have a more broad education at a liberal arts college...When I met with admissions last year I had many people tell me that I stood out as an applicant BECAUSE I attended a competitive liberal arts school with a non-traditional major...Many vet schools admissions committees are faced every year with hundreds of applicants with the same majors, classes, extracurriculars and clinical experiences and that can be very tedious for them and a detriment to the applicant trying to stand out among many...Wherever you choose to attend, make yourself stand out...Sorry if I rambled on but hopefully this helps a bit...Good luck!
 
As another person who graduated from a small liberal arts college (Carleton, 1993), I am of two minds.

If you are absolutely certain you want to be a veterinarian, then a large state ag school may be the best route, since you will be able to get a lot of very specific animal experience and your path is pretty well set.

If there is a possibility you might decide to do something else, including human medicine, I would go to a small liberal arts school in a heartbeat. You'll get lots of personal attention and tons of opportunity to broaden your horizons. You can take small classes taught by professors themselves (rather than TA's), you can go to France or Nepal for a semester, you can do research, you can play rugby, or star in a play, or start a skydiving club. Of course, you can do all of these things in a larger university, but at a small school, you are expected to be primarily a participant, rather than a spectator.

And, as hopeful_dvm said, liberal arts schools teach you how to think -- how to apply knowledge from a broad range of disciplines to solve any given problem. These are skills that will benefit you in every aspect of your life, not just in your career.

I don't think you'd be at any disadvantage when applying to vet schools. There are a fair number of alumni from my school who are now DVM's. In fact, 75% of my school's alumni go on to get graduate or professional degrees, most from top tier programs.

Also, don't let the "list price" of a school deter you. When all was said and done with financial aid, it cost me less to go to Carleton than it cost my sister to go to UW-Madison.

Anyway, I've blathered on enough. In the end, go and "try out" both types of schools, and do what's right for you.

Best wishes,

Laura
 
As long as you excel in your studies, the type of school shouldn't matter very much. So choose the place where you think you'll be most comfortable and most likely to succeed.

I got my first undergrad degree at a small liberal arts college and subsequently attended larger public universities for my post-bac studies and I have to say I prefer the smaller classes at a smaller private school. Classes of 300+ students just isn't my thing. But that's just me, and everyone's got their personal preferences. Finances are also a major consideration for most people--scholarships made private school cheaper than public for me at that time, but I would have gone elsewhere if it hadn't been the case.

Hopeful_dvm is right about liberal arts students being well-rounded. A liberal arts degree might be pretty much worthless if that's all you've got, but it's an enormous asset when in conjunction with another profession (like vet med).

Good luck, whatever you decide to do!
 
First, let me say that I'm a Penn State grad, so I obviously have a bit of big-school bias 🙂 However, I agree with the previous posters in that you should, first off, go where you are most comfortable and believe you will be able to succeed. To be honest, as long as you do well in your pre-req's, maintain a solid GPA, and are at a reasonably competitive school I don't think vet schools care much at all about where you went.

That said, if you don't mind large class sizes for the first couple years (the pre-reqs mainly), a state school with a good ag program has a number of advantages. My major was geared toward pre-veterinary students (animal bioscience), the pre-vet club had over 100 members, I had a full-time pre-vet advisor with years of experience, etc... I also was able to spend two years in an immunology lab on-campus, minor in microbiology, and take courses such as veterinary parasitology, principles of animal disease, animal nutrition, theriogenology, comparative animal physiology, etc....

I should also note that there are small classes at large universities, you just have to wait until your last couple years for the smaller science classes to come around, and the humanities classes are usually 30 or so students or less. I've always enjoyed literature also, so the gen-eds I took included topics such as comparative asian literature, soc/pol philosophy, literature of australia/new zealand (I spent a semester in australia).

In general, I'm of the opinion that you can make a big university much smaller just by becoming involved in things that interest you. So, if you can learn to enjoy the larger classes and bureaucracy that go along with a large univeristy, the opportunities available to you as a pre-vet student will not be in short supply. (Oh, and I'm pretty sure I learned how to think at PSU, it's just easier to slide by there if one is so inclined 🙂 ).
 
I, as just about anybody who looks at my academic record, would call me a bit of an academic journeyman. I started college at a small, all women's liberal arts school. I found it a bit too stuffy and small for me, so I transferred to a medium sized university (approx 6000 undergrad). Now I find myself at large, private research university taking my basic sciences for vet school. In all these travels, I can honestly tell you that for me, medium-sized was by far the best fit for me. The teaching was of similar caliber to the small liberal arts school, the profs actually cared about me and my interests/goals, yet the social situation was big enough where there were a great mix of people and I had friends from a spectrum of different interests. Although I am certainly not yet in vet school (I'm going to apply for '07 start), I can tell you that I'm absolutely glad I studied History and Australian Studies. The way I see it is that I've got the rest of my life to study science and vet med - I will never again have that much time to study things that are interesting without "practical/career oriented" purposes. I also know it's completely possible to do all your pre-reqs and study whatever - so don't feel like you have to be a hard science major, just because you want to go to vet school. My sister was also a history major - now she's a pediatric oncologist.

Just something else to think about...

Jen
 
I agree with everyone who has posted here. I should rephrase that while I went to a large state school it isnt for everyone. Andrew was right though that you can make a school with 25.000 undergrads seem realy small if you get involved in clubs and activities.

As long as you do well whereever you go you have just as much of a chance as anyone.

Good Luck

Beauty :laugh:
 
vanderboots said:
Hi. What are everyone's thoughts on attending a liberal arts college for preveterinary studies? I was looking at some colleges and came across a couple women's liberal arts colleges that interest me. Are these kinds of colleges known for providing challenging curriculums to prepare students for professional school? Is attending one of these colleges for prevet frowned upon? Any input would be greatly appreciated.


hiya, i'm not really sure if my response helps any, but my twin is a pre-vet student (chem major) at a small women's liberal arts college. she finds it to be a good fit [i would find it too small, but its a matter of personal preference], she's loves it, she's already gotten to know a lot of people in her department, professors are a lot more accessible. a lot of students from her school go onto professional school (and the alumni connections are very helpful). This summer, (right now actually) she's doing a pre-vet program in Honduras through Purdue, she's working with farm animals and travelling a lot, it's been a wonderful experience. So you could always join a public school's summer programs if you wanted more exposure to the vet field. good luck with your desicion. hope my $.02 were helpful.
 
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