Listerine because Crest Pro Health tastes gross.scottyhoop said:
I have been using Listerine Advanced but I bought Crest to try. I admit Crest tastes better, but leaves a nasty after-taste. SO I'm sticking to listerine, but I've heard a little about alcohol not being great like stated in an earlier post. I'll try to do some more homework on it.aphistis said:Crest Pro Health because Listerine tastes gross.
I would say Listerine, because it's always on sale at Walmart.scottyhoop said:
I've heard talk about the staining as well. You'd think the folks at Crest would have known better!!!Cyclysm said:dont like the burn of listerine, but i have heard talk about crest causing interproximal stains. i have not experienced this, but once i heard there was a possibility i stopped using it.
Please let me know what you find out from the rep. Thanks!!ktcook83 said:A couple friends and I plan to ask the P&G rep about the prohealth rinse and interproximal staining tomorrow.
What do you think of the Listerine Whitening? It has a much lower alcohol content...or is it best to avoid alcohol period?DrJeff said:Listerine = high alcohol content = slight increase in oral cancer rates with long term exposure
Crest Pro Health = no alcohol
Thats almost exactly my ritual as well, but I floss 1st...is it better to floss in the middle of my "routine"? I switched to Listerine Advanced tho...seems to taste a little better.mochafreak said:Here's my routine (I have no idea how I came to utilize this many oral health products in a 10 minute time span ):
1. Rinse with Listerine Whitening
2. Brush with Colgate Total
3. Floss with Glide
4. Rinse with Listerine Cool Mint (the pain is kinda addictive...)
5. Rinse with Act Mint
The funny thing is my teeth suck, but I've gotten used to the beautiful feeling of a sandblasted, minty mouth.
Well, everybody else flosses first so I'm probably just being weird. I use the Listerine Advanced too.scottyhoop said:Thats almost exactly my ritual as well, but I floss 1st...is it better to floss in the middle of my "routine"? I switched to Listerine Advanced tho...seems to taste a little better.
ktcook83 said:Hey everyone,
We talked to the Proctor and Gamble rep yesterday about Crest Pro Health rinse. He said that there is in fact a problem with staining associated with it. There is a new green colored wintergreen? flavor available which doesn't have as much of a problem as the blue flavor. What the rep said was that Crest was so focused on getting the right color blue for the product that they lost sight of the fact that the dye is too dark / strong. After using some people's mouths look blue... this goes away. Anything that is on the surface of your teeth or in the interproximals gets stained blue and this is what the "blue chunks" are that you spit out after using it.
If you use it these blue chunks can become trapped in interproximals and pick up stains. I have classmates who have seen this on patients during prophys. My suggestion would be if you are going to use pro health rinse, make sure your brush well and floss so you don't get staining from the pro healh rinse, until proctor and gamble can fix the dye they use.
scottyhoop said:Thats very cool that the rep was honest with you. Thanks for sharing that info.Do you know if the staining is permanent? I've been doing some homework on the alcohol/mouth cancer thing and can't seem to find any references to alcohol being carcinogenic. Anyone have info they could share??
ktcook83 said:Yeah, we were shocked that the rep was candid about it as well, and he seems to be a great and honest guy. I wouldn't say it is permanent... but a classmate of mine did a prophy on his dad (who is a dentist) and said getting it off was tough... but then again we don't have a ton of prophy experience yet, so take that with a grain of salt. It is most definetely not permanent though. It would bother me though. I haven't used any of the pro health rinse samples I have gotten yet, so I have a ton of it lying around. I will be sure to brush and floss before using it.
On another note... he said a new Crest toothpaste is coming out soon at the California Dental Association meeting. He said he couldn't say more than that, but it will be a better paste then their "Vivid White" paste which is presently the Lexus of the Crest pastes.
scottyhoop said:Cool...I use vivid white now...in fact revitalizing mint flavor is the same flavor as the pro health rinse. To be honest, it doesn't seem to be all that special...I have a hard time telling if a toothpaste is making a difference especially in terms of whitening, plus I use listerine whitening/listerine advanced, and act. So who knows??
Thats great...thanks so much for the info!!! Just curious where you're getting your info from as I would like to check out the source. Seems like lots of great info that I am into. Do you happen to know what the whitening agent is in the "paint on" products and how effective they are? Thanks so much again for the help!!!ktcook83 said:No toothpaste is whitening in the true sense of the bleaches out on the market that use Carbamide Peroxide or hydrogen peroxide. Toothpastes that are whitening actually use a slightly abrasive silica to "whiten your teeth" by removing surface stains. Vivid white has an additional ingredient... sodium hexametaphosphate which is supposed to coat your teeth for 12 hours from picking up new surface stains. It would supposedly help to protect against staining from coffee, coke, smoking, etc
Scott,scottyhoop said:Thats great...thanks so much for the info!!! Just curious where you're getting your info from as I would like to check out the source. Seems like lots of great info that I am into. Do you happen to know what the whitening agent is in the "paint on" products and how effective they are? Thanks so much again for the help!!!
I disagree. Asking reps is good because their claims set the ceiling on what is true. In other words, it's incredibly unlikely that the product is any better than what they claim.fetororis said:Never ask a rep an opinion of their product. They get paid commisson so of course they are going to say great things about it.
Thanks Kevin...I'll check it out. Since "im not in Dschool yet I may not be able to sign on, but I'll give it a shot! Thanks for the info!!ktcook83 said:Scott,
Most of it is from the Protor and Gamble rep for my region... I didn't write his contact info down though because he visits our school a couple times per year, sorry.
The best place to look though would be "Dentalcare.com." It's proctor and gambles dental professionals site and you can sign up if you are a dental student.
Hope this helps,
all rinses r worthless and even counterproductive if used AFTER brushing---just spit the toothpaste out and don't rinse with water or nothin---funny thing, u spend so much $$$$ on the rinses and then still have to pay hi bills at the toof doc!----why?---cuz my 'nads r perfectly round, big globes?!---well, yes, but that is not the point---when u rinse after brushing, u rinse the flouride awayJust thought I'd share mine.
1. Rinse with Listerine Cool Mint
2. Floss with Oral B, waxed
3. Brush with Crest (prefer Colgate but parents buy Crest)
4. Rinse with water
5. Final rinse with Listerine
you're not supposed to rinse your mouth out with water after you brush your teeth? What about the extra tooth paste or that soapy feeling. you'll end up swallowing it.all rinses r worthless and even counterproductive if used AFTER brushing---just spit the toothpaste out and don't rinse with water or nothin---funny thing, u spend so much $$$$ on the rinses and then still have to pay hi bills at the toof doc!----why?---cuz my 'nads r perfectly round, big globes?!---well, yes, but that is not the point---when u rinse after brushing, u rinse the flouride away
Does anybody have experience in how long does it take for the stain to wear off? I heard that it will wear off if you stop using the mouth rinse.