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KAMPALA (UGANDA). The Department of Pathology, Johns Hopkins University SOM, invites applications from pathologists for a Laboratory Director to direct a CAP accredited clinical laboratory on site in Kampala, Uganda. The laboratory is affiliated with the Infectious Disease Institute of Makerere University under a Research Collaboration Program. This is a full-time faculty position in the Department of Pathology, Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine.
The faculty member will be responsible for directing the clinical laboratory, facilitating research studies, and training physicians and technologists in laboratory medicine. The Laboratory Director will be the Head of Laboratory Services at the Infectious Disease Institute responsible for lab operations and implementation and quality control of testing for clinical trials/research and patient care activity. He/she will also contribute to submission of grant applications and generation of manuscripts, participate in the clinical research programs, and develop Microbiology testing capacity. Supervision of Laboratory finances and personnel will be required.
The applicant must be a US citizen, a permanent US resident, or have a valid H1B or O1 Visa. He/she must have an MD degree and be board eligible in CP or AP/CP with interest in Microbiology and experience in directing a laboratory that complies with CLIA regulations. Experience and expertise in the area of infectious disease is preferable. In addition, HIV research, epidemiology, and/or clinical trials training or experience in developing countries will be an advantage. Academic rank and compensation will be commensurate with experience.
JHU is an Equal Opportunity, Affirmative Action employer.

A letter of application and CV should be sent to:
J. Brooks Jackson, M.D., M.B.A.
Department of Pathology
Carnegie 417
600 North Wolfe St
Baltimore, MD 21287
Fax: 410-955-0394
Email: [email protected]

I got a kick out of reading this. Sooo, Hopkins is willing to send your sorry butt Kampala. What are they looking for in an applicant? A Deathwish?

For those that dont know, Amin killed so many people in around Kampala and threw their bodies into the Nile that decaying limbs completely clogged the hydrodam at Owen Falls.

You would have a better chance of survival running around downtown Baghdad wearing a shirt that says "George Bush FTW" while choking down pork sausages with beer and distributing copies of Hustler.

Is Professor Jackson and Hopkins going to hire a mercenary security team to rescue you when you are hanging from hooks in a Jinja hut while monkeys take turns snacking on your privates??

WTFFFFFF are they thinking? Please someone explain this madness.
 
uganda isn't like that anymore. apparently, the country has done a 180 in terms of safety and stability.

amin was overthrown almost 30 years ago and the country has done a lot to transform itself. with that said, i would still not want to go there...sounds like they want a one man/woman who "does it all." i would like to know if your salary is in US dollars or local currency.
 
Maybe they're casting for a new movie, "Last Pathologist of Scotland" ? 🙂
 
uganda isn't like that anymore. apparently, the country has done a 180 in terms of safety and stability.

amin was overthrown almost 30 years ago and the country has done a lot to transform itself. with that said, i would still not want to go there...sounds like they want a one man/woman who "does it all." i would like to know if your salary is in US dollars or local currency.

Amin died only like 4 years ago and he has ton of Islamic radical supporters that still troll the countryside. Even moreso with the war draggin on in Iraq, the place is a "wretched hive of scum and villliany".

Uganda is a pit and I want to know if Hopkins and Jackson plan to personally ensure the safety of the poor sucker they send there. The sheer audacity of a elbow bender academic sitting in a faculty club in Baltimore and plotting to send to a pathologist to Uganda is sad actually. I know Balitmore is bad, but it in no way could be considered a training ground for an African stint...

If Hopkins wants to establish an African presence they volunteer their own faculty. I seriously doubt the likes of Epstein would go there given Entebbe and all that entailed.
 
maybe Jackson's >$125M in NIH funding could buy some security services there.
 
Maybe Jackson should lead a handful of CP residents armed with some AK-47s and fatigues from the sporting goods section of Wal Mart and go over there.

....Kurman can parachute into Kampala and establish an LZ with smoke grenades while calling on reinforcements from CAP. Wicks and Mills can lead a fighter squad for close air support while Jackson sets up the micro lab with Bernie Ackerman manning a 50 Caliber Machine Gun from the top of the med center and shouting "Dermpath OWNZ you!"....


OR maybe this whole thing is so frickin hairbrained whoever came up with should be fired.
 
I got a kick out of reading this. Sooo, Hopkins is willing to send your sorry butt Kampala. What are they looking for in an applicant? A Deathwish?

For those that dont know, Amin killed so many people in around Kampala and threw their bodies into the Nile that decaying limbs completely clogged the hydrodam at Owen Falls.

You would have a better chance of survival running around downtown Baghdad wearing a shirt that says "George Bush FTW" while choking down pork sausages with beer and distributing copies of Hustler.

Is Professor Jackson and Hopkins going to hire a mercenary security team to rescue you when you are hanging from hooks in a Jinja hut while monkeys take turns snacking on your privates??

WTFFFFFF are they thinking? Please someone explain this madness.


Well, posters are always asking about what jobs you can get being CP-only....

Maybe Deschutes can add this thread to the FAQ.
 
kamala1.jpg


Uganda's Official Pathologist

Kamala the Ugandan Giant FTW!
 
I got a kick out of reading this. Sooo, Hopkins is willing to send your sorry butt Kampala. What are they looking for in an applicant? A Deathwish?

For those that dont know, Amin killed so many people in around Kampala and threw their bodies into the Nile that decaying limbs completely clogged the hydrodam at Owen Falls.

You would have a better chance of survival running around downtown Baghdad wearing a shirt that says "George Bush FTW" while choking down pork sausages with beer and distributing copies of Hustler.

Is Professor Jackson and Hopkins going to hire a mercenary security team to rescue you when you are hanging from hooks in a Jinja hut while monkeys take turns snacking on your privates??

WTFFFFFF are they thinking? Please someone explain this madness.

I saw this ad too...I thought it was "interesting".

Keep in mind Brooks' background...he's an MBA...draw your own conclusions.
 
I got a kick out of reading this. Sooo, Hopkins is willing to send your sorry butt Kampala. What are they looking for in an applicant? A Deathwish?

For those that dont know, Amin killed so many people in around Kampala and threw their bodies into the Nile that decaying limbs completely clogged the hydrodam at Owen Falls.

You would have a better chance of survival running around downtown Baghdad wearing a shirt that says "George Bush FTW" while choking down pork sausages with beer and distributing copies of Hustler.

Is Professor Jackson and Hopkins going to hire a mercenary security team to rescue you when you are hanging from hooks in a Jinja hut while monkeys take turns snacking on your privates??

WTFFFFFF are they thinking? Please someone explain this madness.

OMFG...this is not the reason why I entered pathology.

If I wanted to work in Uganda or an underserved area, I would have gone into a different field.

Screw that! Homey don't play that!

Get me a job in the US!

I didn't go into medicine to serve the underserved. I'll leave that for the family practitioners or the few empathetic physicians who are truly exceptional, altruistic people.
 
I saw this ad too...I thought it was "interesting".

Keep in mind Brooks' background...he's an MBA...draw your own conclusions.

I already drew this conclusion. This is HARDLY altruistic on Hopkins part. There is a very rich minority in Uganda that would pay for JHU-level of care and this is their way of mining this market. Hopkins is doing this shamelessly all over Africa, especially in oil-rich areas like the UAE. Harvard is also starting to step into this market.

This is no different than Exxon or DeBeers going into Africa...its business, pure business. The sad thing is JHU is actually going to take some poor sap and risk his/her like in Kampala so they can turn a buck....that is shameless.

PS-Can a mod delete the racist pic from this thread FFS. This is a serious discussion and its being tainted.
 
I already drew this conclusion. This is HARDLY altruistic on Hopkins part. There is a very rich minority in Uganda that would pay for JHU-level of care and this is their way of mining this market. Hopkins is doing this shamelessly all over Africa, especially in oil-rich areas like the UAE. Harvard is also starting to step into this market.

This is no different than Exxon or DeBeers going into Africa...its business, pure business. The sad thing is JHU is actually going to take some poor sap and risk his/her like in Kampala so they can turn a buck....that is shameless.

PS-Can a mod delete the racist pic from this thread FFS. This is a serious discussion and its being tainted.

Have you ever been to Uganda? DO you know anyone that has recently been there or worked there?
 
Wow, racism in the path forum. Nice!
LADoc00 said:
PS-Can a mod delete the racist pic from this thread FFS. This is a serious discussion and its being tainted.

Maybe he is working his way thought medical school?

Ok, most likely not.


But, why exactly is this racist?
Certainly it is, mocking Uganda.
But then so is 'Kamala'.


For those who don't know (or have not looked it up) That is a picture of Kamala the Ugandan Giant, aka Jim Harris, professional 'wrestler', who's stage name is Kamala the Ugandan Giant. Clearly, Thaitanium, watches too much WWF. (I looked a the pic URL and googled it)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Harris_(wrestler)
 
I already drew this conclusion. This is HARDLY altruistic on Hopkins part. There is a very rich minority in Uganda that would pay for JHU-level of care and this is their way of mining this market. Hopkins is doing this shamelessly all over Africa, especially in oil-rich areas like the UAE. Harvard is also starting to step into this market.

This is no different than Exxon or DeBeers going into Africa...its business, pure business. The sad thing is JHU is actually going to take some poor sap and risk his/her like in Kampala so they can turn a buck....that is shameless.

I wouldn't lump it in with Exxon or DeBeers (or do any sell the screen play "Blood Biopsy", or "Oil, Diamonds, and Biopsies"). But I imagine they are exporting the JHU name for the purpose of marketing their Pathology to local money/corporate types in country. I'm sure they do local work too, good PR...

Oh and Matte Kudesai, I don't one has to have first or second hand knowledge of a country and its economy to comment on it. I guess it would help, but going there is not required to have knowledge of it.
 
Have you ever been to Uganda? DO you know anyone that has recently been there or worked there?

Yes, mostly ex-mil types. Yes it has changed but yes it is still extremely the hell dangerous, especially for Americans and Israeli Jews.

Almost all military officers I know who have gone there have done so with extensive body guard protection and I seriously doubt JHU would spring for such protection for a pathologist.
 
Maybe he is working his way thought medical school?

Ok, most likely not.


But, why exactly is this racist?
Certainly it is, mocking Uganda.
But then so is 'Kamala'.


For those who don't know (or have not looked it up) That is a picture of Kamala the Ugandan Giant, aka Jim Harris, professional 'wrestler', who's stage name is Kamala the Ugandan Giant. Clearly, Thaitanium, watches too much WWF. (I looked a the pic URL and googled it)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Harris_(wrestler)

I just dont want this thread all muddled up...there is something very serious here. If JHU starts shipping off residents and fellows to foriegn biopsy mills in Africa, we need to call them on this.
 
I just dont want this thread all muddled up...there is something very serious here. If JHU starts shipping off residents and fellows to foriegn biopsy mills in Africa, we need to call them on this.

Oh most definitely, an elective like Mayo's Scottsdale would be one think, but required or expected rotations? no way.
 
I just dont want this thread all muddled up...there is something very serious here. If JHU starts shipping off residents and fellows to foriegn biopsy mills in Africa, we need to call them on this.

what indication do you have that this would ever involve residents or fellows? to send a resident or fellow to Africa for even a few months is probably cost prohibitive, and would likely add little to their fund of knowledge, so why would JHU do it?

this job will likely be filled because everybody has a price, and eventually hopkins will find someone who's willing to do it if they raise the salary high enough. this isn't that different from asking someone to practice in less desirable parts of the US. pay a young, single family practitioner 400K per year and i bet you'd find a few willing to go work in the middle of nowhere for a few years. everybody eventually has their price.
 
But, why exactly is this racist?
Certainly it is, mocking Uganda.
Why is it racist? I really don't have a year to explain.🙄 But I do know that when it comes to pics of Ugandan men, there are other more approprate ones available on the internet:

http://images.search.yahoo.com/sear...o=19&tt=43&oid=3afefb868369baf4&ei=ISO-8859-1

Put another way, if a foreginer were to characterize a southern pathologist, must he been shown hanging off the side of a Ford F150 with a beer in one hand and a confederate flag and shotgun on the gun rack?😕
 
Yes, mostly ex-mil types. Yes it has changed but yes it is still extremely the hell dangerous, especially for Americans and Israeli Jews.

Almost all military officers I know who have gone there have done so with extensive body guard protection and I seriously doubt JHU would spring for such protection for a pathologist.

Some close friends (including a gorgeous blond) routinely travels to Uganda for 2-3 month at a time without any problems. One of my friends found it incredibly safe to take public transportation, visit markets, and work.

Who knows what JHU's ultimate motive is. There is nothing wrong with disseminating our technical expertise through training and materials in these countries. There may be individuals that trained in pathology precisely for this reason. I seriously doubt that anyone taking the laboratory director position would need Lieutenant A.K. Waters (Bruce Willis character In Tears of the Sun) to protect their mushy white arse. Some might argue that attending your average technical college in the US (Virgina) would pose a more serious threat.
 
Some could argue that attending your average technical college in the US (Virgina) would pose a more serious threat.

I'm not sure if I'd refer to a 135 year-old university with 28,000 students, 60+ undergraduate programs and 140+ graduate programs as a technical college.
 
Some close friends (including a gorgeous blond) routinely travels to Uganda for 2-3 month at a time without any problems. One of my friends found it even increadibly safe to take public transportation, visit markets, and work.

Who knows what JHU's ultimate motive is. There is nothing wrong with disseminating our technical expertise through training and materials in these countries. There may be individuals that trained in pathology percisely for this reason. I seriously doubt that anyone taking the laboratory director position would need Lieutenant A.K. Waters (Bruce Willis character In Tears of the Sun) to protect your mushy white arse. Some could argue that attending your average technical college in the US (Virgina) would pose a more serious threat.

Okay FFS, lets actually refer to facts:
Report May 07, 2007 U.S. Department of State
Bureau of Consular Affairs
SAFETY AND SECURITY:U.S. citizens living in or planning to visit Uganda should be aware of threats to their safety from insurgent groups, particularly in the northern region near the border with Sudan, along the western border with the Democratic Republic of the Congo, and in the southwest near the border with Rwanda. Insurgent groups have at times specifically targeted U.S. citizens. They have engaged in murder, armed attacks, kidnapping, and the placement of land mines. Although isolated, incidents can occur with little or no warning.

American citizens traveling to northern Uganda, especially in those districts bordering southern Sudan and the Democratic Republic of the Congo, are advised to exercise caution due to the Lord's Resistance Army (LRA) insurgency
American citizens traveling to northern Uganda are advised to ensure that they have made appropriate travel, lodging, and communication arrangements with their sponsoring organization before visiting the region. Local officials in northern Uganda have expressed concern for the safety and security of foreigners visiting Internally Displaced People (IDP) camps, and have also expressed concern about foreign nationals traveling to the region apparently to assist with relief efforts, but without any specific arrangements with a sponsoring organization. Foreign citizens who travel to the region without a sponsoring organization may not find secure lodging or safe transport, and may become more susceptible to crime. They may also find that local officials are unable to provide assistance in the event of an emergency.

Armed banditry and attacks on vehicles are also very common in the Karamoja region of northeastern Uganda. In 2006, there were a number of armed incidents between various ethnic groups in the region and the Ugandan Peoples Defense Forces (UPDF). These incidents included ambushes of UPDF troops, violence as the UPDF carried out disarmament programs, and attacks on vehicles, residences, and towns that resulted in multiple deaths. Most of the violence occurred in the districts of Kaabong, Kotido, and Abim, although some violent incidents also occurred in Moroto and Nakapiripirit Districts. American citizens are advised to avoid travel to the Karamoja region given the ongoing insecurity.

Not the heresay of some "gorgeous blond" you hooked up with at a bar last week.

Landmine Monitor has continued to receive disturbing reports that indicate a strong possibility of use of antipersonnel mines by Ugandan forces in the Democratic Republic of Congo in June 2000. Landmine Monitor believes that these serious and credible allegations merit the urgent attention of States Parties, who should consult with the Ugandan government and other relevant actors in order to seek clarification, establish the facts, and resolve these questions regarding compliance with the Mine Ban Treaty. The Ugandan government denies that it used antipersonnel mines in the DRC.

There continue to be new mine casualties in northern Uganda. The Mines Advisory Group completed the first assessment of the mine situation in Uganda in May 2001.

OF COURSE Uganda is a free democracy...NOT...General siezed power:
chief of state: President Lt. Gen. Yoweri Kaguta MUSEVENI (since seizing power 26 January 1986); note - the president is both chief of state and head of government
head of government: President Lt. Gen. Yoweri Kaguta MUSEVENI (since seizing power 26 January 1986); Prime Minister Apollo NSIBAMBI (since 5 April 1999); note - the prime minister assists the president in the supervision of the cabinet
 
I'm not sure what to think about this thread. All I can say is if you want to post in it, restrict your remarks to the direct issue raised. If this trails into "discussion" of racism, Ugandan politics, or significant sidetracks on personal safety I'm going to close it.
 
i have to disagree with yaah.

nothing is wrong with this thread at this moment for it to be closed. it is different from the CASE thread.
 
Okay FFS, lets actually refer to facts:
Report May 07, 2007 U.S. Department of State
Bureau of Consular Affairs


Not the heresay of some "gorgeous blond" you hooked up with at a bar last week.



OF COURSE Uganda is a free democracy...NOT...General siezed power:

If you look at the whole site
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1051.html

You'll see that most of this stuff is regional. Seriously though the country has made drastic improvements in safety and security. For the right person, this could be a cool opportunity.
The gorgeous blond is a friend I have known for many years. I used this terminology to reiterate that a very Western appearing individual has lived and traveled in Uganda without event.
 
I'm not sure if I'd refer to a 135 year-old university with 28,000 students, 60+ undergraduate programs and 140+ graduate programs as a technical college.

I meant no offense. Virginia Tech is a great school. I was only trying to make the point that environments considered "safe" can spawn mayhem.
 
i have to disagree with yaah.

nothing is wrong with this thread at this moment for it to be closed. it is different from the CASE thread.

All I said was that the thread had the potential to devolve even further. I said I'm not closing it now.
 
I meant no offense. Virginia Tech is a great school. I was only trying to make the point that environments considered "safe" can spawn mayhem.

No worries. Just wanted to clarify.
 
...there is something very serious here. If JHU starts shipping off residents and fellows to foriegn biopsy mills in Africa, we need to call them on this.

After working around the Hopkins campus in Baltimore, I would think that the Hopkins residents/fellows would welcome the chance to spend some time in a war-torn third world country. Maybe Uganda doesn't look so bad after all... its all a matter of perspective. :laugh:
 
I got a kick out of reading this. Sooo, Hopkins is willing to send your sorry butt Kampala. What are they looking for in an applicant? A Deathwish?

For those that dont know, Amin killed so many people in around Kampala and threw their bodies into the Nile that decaying limbs completely clogged the hydrodam at Owen Falls.

You would have a better chance of survival running around downtown Baghdad wearing a shirt that says "George Bush FTW" while choking down pork sausages with beer and distributing copies of Hustler.

Is Professor Jackson and Hopkins going to hire a mercenary security team to rescue you when you are hanging from hooks in a Jinja hut while monkeys take turns snacking on your privates??

WTFFFFFF are they thinking? Please someone explain this madness.

How much are they paying?
 
How much are they paying?

Don't forget pathdawg, you still have to pay taxes on anything over 82k and you get taxed on a portion of any housing stipend they pay.
:laugh:
 
I already drew this conclusion. This is HARDLY altruistic on Hopkins part. There is a very rich minority in Uganda that would pay for JHU-level of care and this is their way of mining this market. Hopkins is doing this shamelessly all over Africa, especially in oil-rich areas like the UAE. Harvard is also starting to step into this market.

This is no different than Exxon or DeBeers going into Africa...its business, pure business. The sad thing is JHU is actually going to take some poor sap and risk his/her like in Kampala so they can turn a buck....that is shameless.

The UAE is not in Africa. Duh.

But ur right about the whole business aspect. Its called medical tourism and generates billions trillions of dollars every year. This lab for example would be one of very few CAP accredited labs in the region, so patients would travel miles to come to it, or hospitals in the region would send their samples, etc. Its great for Uganda economy wise, great for patients who can get better care (if they can afford it). Sure it caters to a small minority of rich. But so does a lot of things. That's what capitalism is about. How many ppl in the US can't afford health insurance. So what else is new?
As for living in Uganda, i'm sure JH has investigated the situation, maybe foreigners there get to live in fancy highly secure luxurius places, where they're comfortable and don't have much contact with the rest of the country. Like the way it is for foreigners living in Saudi, Sudan, and other non-western countries. And if its a good job, well paid...
I'm sure there are open minded ppl/pathologists out there who like living in different countries, and trying new experiences, while making good money, so why not?
 
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