LMU-DCOM (DeBusk COM) Discussion thread Part 2 2007-2008

[ThePiratesse]

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keep in mind, most people confuse primary care with being a family physician..it encompasses, family medicine, peds, psychiatry, ob.gyn, internal medicine.

.. and don't forget emergency medicine!

 

[LauraDO]

Primary care includes psychiatry? I never thought it was considered as such. Could someone enlighten me please?

No you schitzo loon, we won't enlighten you, in the words of the famous Nascar

Hakuna Matata!!!!!

 

[Syncope82]

.. and don't forget emergency medicine!

Thank you! =)

Primary care includes psychiatry? I never thought it was considered as such. Could someone enlighten me please?

hmm..I guess I'm wrong...I heard somewhere it was part of primary care...guess I heard wrong

but anyways..here is what the CDC says

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Specialist physicians practice in the primary care [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]specialties, in addition to all other specialist fields not included in .[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]the generalist definition. Specialist fields include allergy and .[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]immunology, aerospace medicine, anesthesiology, cardiovascular .[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]diseases, child and adolescent psychiatry, colon and rectal surgery, .[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]dermatology, diagnostic radiology, forensic pathology, .[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]gastroenterology, general surgery, medical genetics, neurology, nuclear .[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]medicine, neurological surgery, obstetrics and gynecology, occupational .[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]medicine, ophthalmology, orthopedic surgery, otolaryngology, .[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]psychiatry, public health and general preventive medicine, physical .[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]medicine and rehabilitation, plastic surgery, anatomic and clinical .[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]pathology, pulmonary diseases, radiation oncology, thoracic surgery, .[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]urology, addiction medicine, critical care medicine, legal medicine, .[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]and clinical pharmacology..

http://www.cdc.gov/NCHS/datawh/nchsdefs/physicianspec.htm

 

[LauraDO]

Hi everyone!

Just checking in to ask if anyone that interviewed on 2/22 or 2/26 has received a call yet? About what time of day does Dr. Stowers make the calls? I'm in CA and have been on pins/needles all day. I'm almost 100% sure I will attend if offered acceptance so much hope weighs on receiving a yes, we want you Roselee!!!😀

Waiting and hoping!

Roselee

I interviewed 1/7, but my file was reviewed with yours, no phone call, Since it is 5:20 there no, it looks like today is not the day 🙁

 

[prionsRbad]

Thank you! =)




hmm..I guess I'm wrong...I heard somewhere it was part of primary care...guess I heard wrong

but anyways..here is what the CDC says

Primary care specialists practice in the subspecialties [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]of general and family practice, internal medicine, and pediatrics. The .[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]primary care subspecialties for family practice include geriatric .[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]medicine and sports medicine. Primary care subspecialties for internal .[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]medicine include diabetes, endocrinology and metabolism, hematology, .[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]hepatology, cardiac electrophysiology, infectious diseases, diagnostic .[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]laboratory immunology, geriatric medicine, sports medicine, nephrology, .[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]nutrition, medical oncology, and rheumatology. Primary care .[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]subspecialties for pediatrics include adolescent medicine, critical .[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]care pediatrics, neonatal-perinatal medicine, pediatric allergy, .[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]pediatric cardiology, pediatric endocrinology, pediatric pulmonology, .[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]pediatric emergency medicine, pediatric gastroenterology, pediatric .[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]hematology/oncology, diagnostic laboratory immunology, pediatric .[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]nephrology, pediatric rheumatology, and sports medicine..

Specialist physicians practice in the primary care [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]specialties, in addition to all other specialist fields not included in .[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]the generalist definition. Specialist fields include allergy and .[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]immunology, aerospace medicine, anesthesiology, cardiovascular .[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]diseases, child and adolescent psychiatry, colon and rectal surgery, .[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]dermatology, diagnostic radiology, forensic pathology, .[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]gastroenterology, general surgery, medical genetics, neurology, nuclear .[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]medicine, neurological surgery, obstetrics and gynecology, occupational .[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]medicine, ophthalmology, orthopedic surgery, otolaryngology, .[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]psychiatry, public health and general preventive medicine, physical .[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]medicine and rehabilitation, plastic surgery, anatomic and clinical .[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]pathology, pulmonary diseases, radiation oncology, thoracic surgery, .[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]urology, addiction medicine, critical care medicine, legal medicine, .[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]and clinical pharmacology..

http://www.cdc.gov/NCHS/datawh/nchsdefs/physicianspec.htm

Hmmm so OBGYN is not primary care either?

 

[ThePiratesse]

yea i know, that primary care is very broad. But i was just worried if i decided later on during med school that i wanted to do surgery (which i don't want to do right now) that there is something that is holding me back. One of the best advice someone gave to me is that don't be bias to any field before med school, because you are new to the field and really don't enough experience yet to make a strong decision which specialty to get into. He actually want to do primary care at first, and would never think of doing surgery but ended up in surgery. I just don't want to be restricted. Even at places i have already interviewed i felt that they really tried to push primary care down your throat. But i don't know that is just me.

Don't worry about being pegged down to primary care just because you go to DCOM. They definitely expose us to all sides. For example, we are currently in our neuromusculoskeletal system and have had lectures from Ortho surgeons (DO and MD) a DO neorologist, our own Dr. Weiting, a Sports Meds DO, and others. We've gotten to see this system form a surgeon's, a specialist's, an FP's, and emergency med's perspective. I agree with the advice you were given about going in with an open slate. During 3rd year you will get to try all kinds of different specialties not just primary care specialties.. then in 4th year you will can take your elective and selective slots to explore your favorites and make your final decision. You have time to make up your mind.. the first two years is all about doing the book work anyways.🙂

 

[ThePiratesse]

Hmmm so OBGYN is not primary care either?

I thought it was as well.. I thought we considered it primary care here at school... but what do I know. I'm just a first year, lol. I didn't know what to consider psychiatry.. sounds primary. Who needs these labels!!! There's no pegging a pirate!

 

[Syncope82]

Hmmm so OBGYN is not primary care either?

yea..i didnt even notice that the first time around 😕...this is all according to CDC

I thought it was as well.. I thought we considered it primary care here at school... but what do I know. I'm just a first year, lol. I didn't know what to consider psychiatry.. sounds primary. Who needs these labels!!! There's no pegging a pirate!

yea...im just as confused now ..oh well

 

[HippieChick]

I have a question for current students: I am really interested in Medical Spanish and Im wondering if it may be an offered elective course at DCOM? Anyone know? Thanks!

 

[prionsRbad]

There's no pegging a pirate!

I 😍 you Piratesse. Arrrrrr! I can't wait to be a pirate with you. Halloween is gonna be fun this year. 😉

 

[MJB]

Not sure on the Medical Spanish, but it's something I'd be interested in as well.

As for "Primary Care" vs. "Specialist" definitions, I think it all depends on where you're at.

My home state includes OB/GYN and EM as those fields that fulfill "Primary Care" requirements in underserved areas.

I think the more rural you are, the more broad the definition is. I've even seen Orthopedics referred to as a specialist of need in many areas, even calling it "primary care", and I'm not sure anyone I know at school would call it PC.

I know that the Orthopedists once you get more than about 100 miles from KC or so, are very, very, very in demand. Same goes for OB/GYN and EM docs.

 

[ThePiratesse]

I 😍 you Piratesse. Arrrrrr! I can't wait to be a pirate with you. Halloween is gonna be fun this year. 😉

Awww, I can't wait to be a pirate with you either! I 😍you right back!!!!

 

[squad41]

To everyone waiting for a call these last couple wks....HANG IN THERE!! I interviewed 12/7 and have been waitlisted since....LauraDO feels my pain!!!

🙂

 

[LauraDO]

To everyone waiting for a call these last couple wks....HANG IN THERE!! I interviewed 12/7 and have been waitlisted since....LauraDO feels my pain!!!

🙂

We will get there buddy, they are just making us wait a really long time so we are extra excited when we get word

 

[squad41]

Im very much hoping I dont do something stupid/embarassing/poorly thought out/caught up in the moment if and when Dr. Stowers calls, such as dancing awkwardly in the grocery store, yelling loudly, scaring the neighbors, scaring Dr. Stowers, throwing something important up in the air, etc.......

 

[RoseLee]

Me too squad41! I teach all day tomorrow and I literally will stop my lecture and answer the phone in the middle of it and possibly scream if it's good news. My students all know about my med school quest, so they can celebrate with me if it's Dr. Stowers with good news 🙂.

Roselee

 

[rockchalkjdoc]

Anyone out there excited for "college road trip" to come out this weekend? Ever since blue streak I've had this deer-in-the-headlights need for martin lawrence movies

 

[hoss22]

Anyone out there excited for "college road trip" to come out this weekend? Ever since blue streak I've had this deer-in-the-headlights need for martin lawrence movies

Nope...not here. The previews showed way too many Disney actors for me to want to go watch it (but I agree, Martin Lawrence is hilarious).

 

[sherruns]

good vibes to this school

 

[HippieChick]

I don't know what the new dorms are going to be like, but probably not as sweet as this.

Definately Sweet!👍

 

[fortima]

anybody know about how many people interviewed yesterday 3/4 ????

 

[nascardoc]

anybody know about how many people interviewed yesterday 3/4 ????

12

 

[Powdermonkey]

Who needs these labels!!! There's no pegging a pirate!

So its true then,.... You cant peg a peg leg? 🙂 ...Yaarrrrrr

 

[Powdermonkey]

12

Hey, what time does the Oasis thing start again? And its on Mondays and Thursdays, right? I'm thinking about coming up next week to one of them, just for the heck of it, and to look around Harrogate for a while. Are they still doing interviews?

 

[nascardoc]

Hey, what time does the Oasis thing start again? And its on Mondays and Thursdays, right? I'm thinking about coming up next week to one of them, just for the heck of it, and to look around Harrogate for a while. Are they still doing interviews?

Yeah....its still going on. Interviews are thru the beginning of may i believe. The oasis thing starts at 7. Let me know which day you decide and I'll make sure to be there.

 

[Powdermonkey]

Yeah....its still going on. Interviews are thru the beginning of may i believe. The oasis thing starts at 7. Let me know which day you decide and I'll make sure to be there.

Sweet! I look forward to seeing cows being bitch slapped as well as another long ranting diatribe in person 😀. Hahaha... It will probably be next Thursday the 13th. I'll let you know for sure though once I find out next weeks work schedule. Stupid work....

 

[Powdermonkey]

I just spoke with the chief and he said that you can still have the scholarship. It will likely take until mid summer for you to complete the application and they would pay for your last three years.

However, if you wanted to start this fall, your payback would only be 3 years (instead of the 4 if you had taken the entire scholarship). You still get the $20K bonus.

Let me know if you want his phone number/ email. He's the chief assigned to LMU. Here is his web site (select the MC HPSP tab; not that I'm bragging but the helicopter in the video is same type I fly! 😀:

http://www.navyofficer.info/


Let me know if you need any more help and I'm looking forward to meeting you next year!

Im pretty sure the only have to pay back three years deal is not right.... I read extensively in both the Military forums and through the army and air force websites, and you have to put in at least for years, even if they only pay for three. Unless you only do a three year residency, then you would have to pay back only three. Here, its like this...

4 years of school + 3 residency = 4 years pay off
3 years of school + 3 residency = 3 years pay off
3 years of school + 4 residency = 4 years pay off
4 years of school + 5-7 residency = 5-7 years pay off


So you have to pay back (in years) the longest stint that they paid for. Does that make sense? I'll see if I can find the post in the military forum I read that in, and post the link here.

 

[bouspret]

Now, the biggest concern is though: how much say do you really have in where you are stationed? I know that most of the time you fill out a "dream sheet" and they try to place you there, but I hear that with a doc, they really don't ask, you go where they want you to go.

How long are navy deployments typically? You say you've been to twenty something countries, how much time did that take away from your wife and child? From what I understand, USAF has the best deployment policy, but that may just be rhetoric.

Oh yeah, and another question I have: Do you (or anyone else) know of anywhere to find stats as to how many docs are deployed overseas in battle areas? How many docs have been injured or killed during combat? I would really like some stats to support my argument to my wife and mother-in-law that after they drop hundreds of thousands of dollars on you to send you to school, they're not going to place you on the front lines.

Ok, while your friends and parents concerns about death are popular, their have only been two doctors (both Army) that have been killed in Iraq of the nearly 4,000 dead. That makes sense, since the Army is doing most of the work over their. The military won’t release the numbers of doctors fighting in the war because it’s classified (we don’t tell the enemy how many of ANY type of soldiers are in the area). However, both of these doctors were surgeons. If you interested in surgery or emergency medicine (as I am) you have a better chance of being deployed AFTER your training. If you’re OB/BYN, derm, or any other specialty that isn’t needed in the battlefield, the possibility of being deployed to combat is extremely remote. Your logic is sound, about them spending so much money on you, they don’t want to lose you. None of us has a death wish! I love my wife and beautiful baby as much, if not more, than the next man. I’m not nuts! I feel very comfortable in the relative safety of being a military doctor. In fact, I feel far safer being a physicians than an aviator. For me, this career step vastly lowers the risk factors. In the end, I’ve always managed the risk in my occupation with the amount of enjoyment I glean from life. Traveling around the world, practicing medicine on great people, and cool places is worth the risk. I loath the thought of setting up a practice and staying in that same town for the next 40 years.

That being said, you won’t be subject to deployment (in the navy) for about 8 years. For the (4) years you’re in med school, and (1) year internship in a military hospital (Norfolk, San Diego, or Bethesda, MD for Navy). Then you’re going to do a (3 or more) year residency unless you decide you want to be a GMO (general medical officer) flight surgeon, or diving doctor (then you could be deployed at that time). In the past, the navy has made more of their doctors be GMOs than other services, but that will be phased out by 2011 (convenient for our class). The navy won’t deploy you in this time frame because you don’t yet posses any skills they can use. There will still be GMO opportunities if you (a) want to be a flight surgeon or diving doc (b) drop out of your residency and need time to tread water until you find another place (c) didn’t get your first choice of specialty and want to re-board (a GMO gets a ton of points toward the military match and you have a VERY good chance of getting what you want, so some people take this option if they have weaker grades, or if they want to get out of the military without any extra obligation).

I did most of my traveling before I was married and all of it before my daughter was born. Deployments in the navy are usually six months long (both of mine were). However, if you’re in a specialty that isn’t needed on a ship, you might never be on one except for short training periods as a doctor. If you’re stationed overseas (Japan, Italy, etc) your family goes with you.

As far a having a say in where you’re stationed, it’s pretty easy to figure given the location of navy hospitals and I’ve done very well getting what I ask for. I’m helping to work on this new Navy HPSP wiki. Check out the locations of the training.

http://navyhpsp.net/wiki/index.php?title=Navy_Graduate_Medical_Education_Programs


We can chat about this in the fall (and your wife can meet up with my wife). However, if you’re interested you might want to start working with the chief recruiter in Knoxville because it takes a long time to get set up. If you decide at any point in the process you don’t want to do it (before you sign up in July), then you can drop it. If you decide in the fall that you DO want to do it, your payment and bonus will be delayed considerably.

As far as the Air Force, it’s great. They treat their physicians well. As for me, I love the ocean (diving, surfing, sailing and beaches) so I’ve enjoyed being stationed in great places on the water. In the air force I ran the risk of being stationed in Missouri, or North Dakota, etc and that didn’t appeal to me. I think it’s important to enjoy where you live. I’ve been stationed in Pensacola, FL twice, Corpus Christi, TX, Jacksonville, FL and Annapolis, MD and I have had a great time in all these places!

Good luck!

 

[Powdermonkey]

Bouspret, I know you have had many postivie experiences with the military, and the bad are few and far between. I am very happy that you have had a good time, and enjoy being in the military. But for those on the fence, you need to look at the military physician/residency forum and start reading. Those are the guys and gals already in training, or out and working as docs. You will find a different picture than the ones painted by Bouspret. Is he wrong? No, absolutely not. Some people have an absolutely wonderful time. But some again are absolutely miserable. There is much more red tape and beauracracy in the military (imagine that). So make sure its the right decision for you I guess, and make sure you are fully educated to how much GMO or flight surgeon time for the air force they will make you do, and what the possibility of not getting to match and having to be a GMO on a ship is. Its not all guts and glory. At least not what I have read. My $0.02. YMMV...

 

[hoss22]

Bouspret, I know you have had many postivie experiences with the military, and the bad are few and far between. I am very happy that you have had a good time, and enjoy being in the military. But for those on the fence, you need to look at the military physician/residency forum and start reading. Those are the guys and gals already in training, or out and working as docs. You will find a different picture than the ones painted by Bouspret. Is he wrong? No, absolutely not. Some people have an absolutely wonderful time. But some again are absolutely miserable. There is much more red tape and beauracracy in the military (imagine that). So make sure its the right decision for you I guess, and make sure you are fully educated to how much GMO or flight surgeon time for the air force they will make you do, and what the possibility of not getting to match and having to be a GMO on a ship is. Its not all guts and glory. At least not what I have read. My $0.02. YMMV...

I believe that Rose is definitely right. Don't do HPSP for the money, and if that is the only reason your are interested, you will definitely be unhappy. If you want to be in the military, then by all means, do HPSP. There are other sources of school payment if you're not interested in the military.

That being said, most of the people that take time to post (except us crazy DCOMers) do so because they are unhappy. The ones that are completely happy just don't post often. Think about how many people do HPSP every year and how many people actually post about it. The unhappy ones are usually blowing off steam. The ones who are most upset usually didn't want to be in the military in the first place...they just wanted the money.

How many times have you written to a company, or website, or whatever to complain...how many times have you done so to praise? How many times have you complained about an undercooked steak at a restaurant and gotten a new one? Compare that to how many times you've asked the server to let the chef know he was right on when your steak was perfect.

 

[Powdermonkey]

I believe that Rose is definitely right. Don't do HPSP for the money, and if that is the only reason your are interested, you will definitely be unhappy. If you want to be in the military, then by all means, do HPSP. There are other sources of school payment if you're not interested in the military.

That being said, most of the people that take time to post (except us crazy DCOMers) do so because they are unhappy. The ones that are completely happy just don't post often. Think about how many people do HPSP every year and how many people actually post about it. The unhappy ones are usually blowing off steam. The ones who are most upset usually didn't want to be in the military in the first place...they just wanted the money.

How many times have you written to a company, or website, or whatever to complain...how many times have you done so to praise? How many times have you complained about an undercooked steak at a restaurant and gotten a new one? Compare that to how many times you've asked the server to let the chef know he was right on when your steak was perfect.

I agree 100%. I was trying to get that across in my message, but I guess I didnt. Thanks Hoss. And again, Bouspret, it is great to hear good tales from the military to give hope to those going that route. I have definitely considered it, but I just dont know if its for me.

 

[bouspret]

I agree 100%. I was trying to get that across in my message, but I guess I didnt. Thanks Hoss. And again, Bouspret, it is great to hear good tales from the military to give hope to those going that route. I have definitely considered it, but I just dont know if its for me.

thanks! I'm glad someone else brought up the negativity on the SDN military sites and not me. I'm a normal guy, and not a rectuiter but there is A LOT of whining on the site. There are other sites out there (sorry for the SDN sacrelige!) that aren't so negative, that are ran by guys who got tired of the incessant whining. www.militarymedicine.com and the HPS wiki i posted earlier are a few.

I know a lot of unhappy military types and it's certainly not for everyone. However, I will agree that while every organization has issues, the military is likely average in that realm and I've been very happy. You also have to realize that some of these guys and gals joined the military to pay for med school only, they're type-A++ and for the first time, they "didn't get what they wanted in life!" Ah, so sad.

Seriously, we should all do our homework on whatever career we jump into and make our own decisions. I'll introduce myself during orientation for anyone interested in HPSP, but frankly, I'm excited about the break from the military for a while...I'm going to grow out some b#@ch&$g sideburns and perhaps a Fu Manchu mustache!

Ok, the soap box is stored away, unless anyone else has any questions....

 

[malisa]

I've been considering the HPSP off and on since I went to my interview in November. I know I couldn't really stand being away from my fiance (hubby in less than a month) for months at a time. That is the biggest issue for me. Otherwise it looks like a great experience. I'll definitely check out those two websites you mentioned.

 

[hoss22]

thanks! I'm glad someone else brought up the negativity on the SDN military sites and not me. I'm a normal guy, and not a rectuiter but there is A LOT of whining on the site. There are other sites out there (sorry for the SDN sacrelige!) that aren't so negative, that are ran by guys who got tired of the incessant whining. www.militarymedicine.com and the HPS wiki i posted earlier are a few.

I know a lot of unhappy military types and it's certainly not for everyone. However, I will agree that while every organization has issues, the military is likely average in that realm and I've been very happy. You also have to realize that some of these guys and gals joined the military to pay for med school only, they're type-A++ and for the first time, they "didn't get what they wanted in life!" Ah, so sad.

Seriously, we should all do our homework on whatever career we jump into and make our own decisions. I'll introduce myself during orientation for anyone interested in HPSP, but frankly, I'm excited about the break from the military for a while...I'm going to grow out some b#@ch&$g sideburns and perhaps a Fu Manchu mustache!

Ok, the soap box is stored away, unless anyone else has any questions....

Bouspret, I may have many more questions as my wife and I begin to buckle down our final decision. I will PM you with these questions so that we don't turn the DCOM thread into an HPSP thread.

 

[LauraDO]

Oh LMU, Oh LMU, why won't you call me. Oh LMU, Oh LMU why won't you call me.....I sit around all day and night, in hopes to see a message light. Oh LMU, Oh LMUUUUUUUU.....why won't you call me

In January I interviewed and now my files under review, Oh LMU, Oh LMU, why wont you call me 🙁

 

[bouspret]

I’m enjoying my last few pre-med months and reading a lot. I’ve read and recommend these:


Better: A surgeon’s notes on performance http://www.amazon.com/Better-Surgeons-Performance-Atul-Gawande/dp/0805082115

(Great stuff on many facets of modern medicine. The book was much more intriguing than the title!)

Body of Work: Meditations on Mortality from the Human Anatomy Lab http://www.amazon.com/Body-Work-Meditations-Mortality-Anatomy/dp/B000Z4K4K2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1204744072&sr=1-1</SPAN>

(great stuff, the title says it all. However, she was a poet and English teacher before she became a doctor, so its an easy well-written read)


Any other “pre-med” type recommendations?

 

[shasta9599]

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[hoss22]

I’m enjoying my last few pre-med months and reading a lot. I’ve read and recommend these:


Better: A surgeon’s notes on performance http://www.amazon.com/Better-Surgeons-Performance-Atul-Gawande/dp/0805082115

(Great stuff on many facets of modern medicine. The book was much more intriguing than the title!)

Body of Work: Meditations on Mortality from the Human Anatomy Lab http://www.amazon.com/Body-Work-Meditations-Mortality-Anatomy/dp/B000Z4K4K2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1204744072&sr=1-1</SPAN>

(great stuff, the title says it all. However, she was a poet and English teacher before she became a doctor, so its an easy well-written read)


Any other “pre-med” type recommendations?

I don't have any other recommendations, but I am currently enjoying reading the Lord of the Rings books (actually it's a single big book)

What is the name of the obligatory book that always ends up on one of these lists? Has anyone read it? Do you recommend it? I'll be looking for something new to read in a couple of weeks.

 

[malisa]

How many people are starting to rent houses now? I feel like nothing will be left once I start looking. Stupid wedding getting in the way of everything!

 

[hoss22]

How many people are starting to rent houses now? I feel like nothing will be left once I start looking. Stupid wedding getting in the way of everything!

We are waiting until the first of April. We are considering buying though, so our situation may be a little different than yours (plus we're currently only interested in La Follette).

 

[malisa]

Well at this point I either go look for places before the wedding which is the beginning of April or go look after I get back from the honeymoon which won't be till almost the end of april. I hope there aren't too many other people looking for places early. Since I have pets I imagine its going to be harder to find places.

 

[MJB]

If the military would give me any sort of choice as to where I'd be living, I think I would consider it more strongly. It's a great deal financially for sure.

 

[missdochopeful]

For those of you still house hunting.....

House for rent near the Dixie Plaza Motel in Tazewell.​

Ranch style brick, 3 bedrooms, 2 baths, large living room, kitchen & dining room.​

Full basement with drive in entrance from back and carport at front entrance.​

Central Heat & Air, City Water and Sewer, Very nice corner lot near the City Park.​

$500.00 per month contact Brenda at 423-869-3099.​

I also know of 3 bed/2 bath split level near the school (a repo that's back on the market) for about 95-98 K if anyone's looking to buy.

Also, PM me if you are looking for rentals.... I checked out a bunch last weekend.

 

[missdochopeful]

Well at this point I either go look for places before the wedding which is the beginning of April or go look after I get back from the honeymoon which won't be till almost the end of april. I hope there aren't too many other people looking for places early. Since I have pets I imagine its going to be harder to find places.

That was my problem too... our wedding is May 3rd. We just had to bite the bullet and drive down to check out some places. If you wait too long there won't be anything left, even though it sucks to already be paying rent when we won't be living there until after the wedding!

 

[ThePiratesse]

I’m enjoying my last few pre-med months and reading a lot. I’ve read and recommend these:


Better: A surgeon’s notes on performance http://www.amazon.com/Better-Surgeons-Performance-Atul-Gawande/dp/0805082115

(Great stuff on many facets of modern medicine. The book was much more intriguing than the title!)

Body of Work: Meditations on Mortality from the Human Anatomy Lab http://www.amazon.com/Body-Work-Meditations-Mortality-Anatomy/dp/B000Z4K4K2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1204744072&sr=1-1</SPAN>

(great stuff, the title says it all. However, she was a poet and English teacher before she became a doctor, so its an easy well-written read)


Any other “pre-med” type recommendations?

I have a book recommendation.... it might be a fun read for you before anatomy. It's called Stiff: The Curious Lives of Human Cadavers by Mary Roach. It's not totally specific to medicine, but still a great read.
Here's the amazon link.
http://www.amazon.com/Stiff-Curious...d_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1204758221&sr=8-2

I also have another question about the HPSP.. In your opinion, what are the top complaints or things people are unhappy about? I've thought about doing it off and on as well, but am just not sure if it would be something that I would want to pursue. I talked to an Air Force recruiter a lot last year before school started, but ended up not doing it at the time. I actually think that I would probably like it just fine, and that the lifestyle would suit me, but its such a huge decision.

 

[HopefulDoc1984]

I have a book recommendation.... it might be a fun read for you before anatomy. It's called Stiff: The Curious Lives of Human Cadavers by Mary Roach. It's not totally specific to medicine, but still a great read.
Here's the amazon link.
http://www.amazon.com/Stiff-Curious...d_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1204758221&sr=8-2

I also have another question about the HPSP.. In your opinion, what are the top complaints or things people are unhappy about? I've thought about doing it off and on as well, but am just not sure if it would be something that I would want to pursue. I talked to an Air Force recruiter a lot last year before school started, but ended up not doing it at the time. I actually think that I would probably like it just fine, and that the lifestyle would suit me, but its such a huge decision.

a major drawback, from my understanding, is that if you do the navy scholarship you have a huge chance of being made a GMO which is like an internship but it may last up to 3 years. i dont think those years subract from your committment time, rather they add to it. i think the air force would be better bc they dont have GMOs like the navy and army. i was going to sign up for the AF scholarship until i read about the program that you can sign up for after med school or even after residency and they will pay off your loans. this will give me much more time to figure out if the armed forces is an option i want to pursue. i dont think it would be bad if i decide to go into general medicine or even general surgery. but considering starting salaries for radiologists/ortho surgeons...... are around 300k, i dont think it would be a problem to pay off any loans that have been accumulated if you decide to specialize.

 

[bouspret]

a major drawback, from my understanding, is that if you do the navy scholarship you have a huge chance of being made a GMO which is like an internship but it may last up to 3 years. i dont think those years subract from your committment time, rather they add to it. i think the air force would be better bc they dont have GMOs like the navy and army. i was going to sign up for the AF scholarship until i read about the program that you can sign up for after med school or even after residency and they will pay off your loans. this will give me much more time to figure out if the armed forces is an option i want to pursue. i dont think it would be bad if i decide to go into general medicine or even general surgery. but considering starting salaries for radiologists/ortho surgeons...... are around 300k, i dont think it would be a problem to pay off any loans that have been accumulated if you decide to specialize.

Hopefuldoc,

Your info is innacurate. As I mentioned, I'm working for the guy in charge of navy HPSP and as I mentioned in my earlier post, the navy GMO tour is being phased out by 2011 to align it with the other services. The air force STILL has GMO tours, they just call them flight surgeons. Also, your time as a GMO in the NAVY ABSOLUTELY counts toward your obligation.

 

[fortima]

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[fortima]

Oh LMU, Oh LMU, why won't you call me. Oh LMU, Oh LMU why won't you call me.....I sit around all day and night, in hopes to see a message light. Oh LMU, Oh LMUUUUUUUU.....why won't you call me

In January I interviewed and now my files under review, Oh LMU, Oh LMU, why wont you call me 🙁

i thought they called u the next friday after ur interview.....like in my case i interviewed 2/29/08.....if i dont get a call from stowers on 3/7 or 3-9 then i can assume i did not get in right? if u interviewed in january you should have def. heard by now. (unless you were still missing letters etc)

 

[HopefulDoc1984]

Hopefuldoc,

Your info is innacurate. As I mentioned, I'm working for the guy in charge of navy HPSP and as I mentioned in my earlier post, the navy GMO tour is being phased out by 2011 to align it with the other services. The air force STILL has GMO tours, they just call them flight surgeons. Also, your time as a GMO in the NAVY ABSOLUTELY counts toward your obligation.

thats the problem in trying to deal with the government. everything i posted was told to me by a recruiter here in denver. the only way to truly know what you are getting into is proceed through the process to where you get a copy of the actual contract you would sign. even then i dont think they are completely honest with you. everybody is different. what is right for some isnt right for someone else. i will reconsider after school is over and i know more about what field of medicine i will be going into.