Loupes question: how's the DFV light?

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  1. Incis0r

    Incis0r I LOVE Dental School 2+ Year Member

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    D1 here.

    I'm pretty certain I want to go with DFV EF 3.5X. However, I'm wondering whether I should pay an extra $500 and get my light from them as well or if I should go Lumadent for that (heard tons of great things about their lights).

    Would appreciate any advice you can share!
     
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  3. Screwtape

    Screwtape 7+ Year Member

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    Go lumadent. 100% sure on this one.
     
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  4. O Gaúcho

    O Gaúcho 2+ Year Member

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    I am in a similar situation as you. But, I am pretty sure I will go with the Surgitel Prism 3.5x with the Oakley frames. The DFV EF seemed pretty bulky and the frames didn't fit me well.
     
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  5. Incis0r

    Incis0r I LOVE Dental School 2+ Year Member

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    Price seems comparable to DFV. Did you get Lumadent? Were you able to set up a group order with your classmates for the discount?

    My DFV rep told me that if I get just the loupes from DFV and not the light, I won't get the free carrying case to transport my loupe + light anymore though.

    Edit: just noticed that the DFV lights are all wireless unlike Lumadent, which has a wire.
     
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  6. Incis0r

    Incis0r I LOVE Dental School 2+ Year Member

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    When are you buying your set?
     
  7. Screwtape

    Screwtape 7+ Year Member

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    I got my lumadent for $300 if I remember. In my opinion much better quality and better customer service. Everything fits in my “loupes only” box from DFV (loupes and light). You just have to do some rearranging. I also just leave them in my office now...

    But yes if wireless is a necessity then lumadent is a no go.
     
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  8. O Gaúcho

    O Gaúcho 2+ Year Member

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    November 13th
     
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  9. Incis0r

    Incis0r I LOVE Dental School 2+ Year Member

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    Have a few follow-up questions for you:

    1. You mentioned your box is from DFV. Are your loupes from DFV? What magnification? Expanded Field or no?

    2. How long does your Lumadent light last on a single charge? Their website advertises 30 hours but I want to hear from you what your experience is with the actual charge.

    3. Are the DFV loupes too heavy in your opinion?

    I'm looking at the "Best Value" package from Lumadent- $495.00 retail ($425 if it's a group order with classmates).
    It includes two battery packs, each of which can last "up to 30 hours."

    Seems like a way better deal than the DFV light (up to 10 hours battery, and that too only 1 pack).
     
  10. Roy Williams

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    Has anybody gotten the lumadent 3.3x loupes? I really like those but i'm considering those as well as something from DFV...
     
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  11. Screwtape

    Screwtape 7+ Year Member

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    DFV 3.5 EF.
    I got the group deal when lumadent came to my school.
    My light lasts I would say about 3 clinic days, so like 24 ish hours. I do use it on high or close the whole time. It’s also not on the straight 8 hours all day... but length is very good.

    I don’t think they are too heavy but when people try them on they always say “wow those are heavy”. So... I dunno ha.
     
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  12. Incis0r

    Incis0r I LOVE Dental School 2+ Year Member

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    Awesome. Thank you for all of your help and input, Screwtape.
    Also, a belated congrats on your graduation :) Hope dentistry is treating you well!
     
  13. iono101

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    I ordered the DFV micro3.5 EF. It's much lighter.
     
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  14. Greyangel6

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    I used Orascoptic 3.8x for pre-clinic. Now I get by with 2.5x Heine in clinic. I still use 3.8x when I'm doing competencies though. Lumadent for light!
     
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  15. Incis0r

    Incis0r I LOVE Dental School 2+ Year Member

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    Nice. Gonna try this one out too. Which frame did you get?
     
  16. blablabla1

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    Lumadent’s the way to go. I use them with my Q-optics 3.0x and it works wonderfully
     
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    Great when it works but overall terrible. Myself, and many friends, have reported that the cord between the battery and the light keeps becoming damaged during normal use and the light no longer works. I have replaced it twice and it's breaking again.
     
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    Kinda off topic but I got ultralight with my dfv nikes.
    No matter what kind of "deal" you get, it's not worth it. They try to sell you by offering you "discounts".
    The light itself is alright. It does the job, but it's mediocre at best. Everything feels cheaply made, especially the battery. I would avoid ultralight.
     
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  19. PreDentTechySon

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    We have DFV because our school has a contract with them and we were required to buy loops through them (Kinda stupid). Anyways, they're alright loops, but a guy in our class got a pair of Q-Optics and they are AMAZING. I know know if you've looked at those loops but if I had a choice in the matter, I would have chosen Q-Optics in a heartbeat.
     
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  20. blablabla1

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    Absolutely. Q-Optics gets underrated too much. They’re the newer kid on the block but their loupes are fantastic because of how light they are and they’re much better priced (atleast for student pricing) than their competitor. Pairing up one of their loupes with a lumadent is a great combo
     
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  21. Incis0r

    Incis0r I LOVE Dental School 2+ Year Member

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    Thanks for the input. Gonna take a closer look at Q-Optics.
     
  22. Incis0r

    Incis0r I LOVE Dental School 2+ Year Member

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    Have you compared with the DFV?
     
  23. blablabla1

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    I’ve tried on DFV loupes at VCU’s loupes fair and actually like them the least of all the vendors I tried (Q-Optics, DFV, Surgitel, Orascoptic). While the optics themselves were nice and clear, they were extremely heavy and large for the magnification given as were the frames. The light was a bit heavy as well from what I remember. They had limited magnification options and were not very competitively priced. Out of our 98 person class, I think only 2-3 people bought from DFV. About 40-45 people bought from Q-Optics and the rest were split between Surgitel and Orascoptic.

    Price and comfort are the two biggest things I looked at when I was buying loupes and with that, I found Surgitel and Q-Optics to be best. The only reason I didn’t go with Surgitel was because their frames were a bit large for my small face and I didn’t like the idea of having plastic Oakley frames (it’s actually some synthetic flexible material but I liked having purely titanium alloy frames like Q-Optics does due to increased durability). If you’re willing to splurge, then I think Orascoptic offers the clearest/best optics. But for having spent only 1200 on my loupes and lumadent light, I’m extremely happy with the comfortable loupes I was able to get.
     
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  24. Incis0r

    Incis0r I LOVE Dental School 2+ Year Member

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    Thank you for the detailed reply. Really appreciate it :)

    Hope school is treating you well man.
     

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