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Can anyone list some low tier schools and give their average accepted student stats?
HahahahahahaSure. All low tier schools have MCATs below the national average. If you've got around a 24 to 27, you're bang on target for the lower tiers. There might be a couple that don't even require an MCAT. Same for your GPA. Around 2.5 should be more than adequate.
You should call each lower tier school and confirm the above. You may have to try a couple of times because sometimes they can't figure out how to use the phone. The last low tier school admissions dean I spoke to sounded more like an ape than a human, so you'll have to speak real slowly.
But to put your mind at rest, anyone with dismal MCAT scores and a dismal GPA can get into a low tier MD school. Despite what you may have read, the schools at the low end of the rankings are disgusting and most people are too ashamed to go there. Some of the schools don't even teach "grown up" medicine, and you'll spend four years learning how to open a box of Band-Aids.
There's no such thing.
The end.
Sure. All low tier schools have MCATs below the national average. If you've got around a 24 to 27, you're bang on target for the lower tiers. There might be a couple that don't even require an MCAT. Same for your GPA. Around 2.5 should be more than adequate.
You should call each lower tier school and confirm the above. You may have to try a couple of times because sometimes they can't figure out how to use the phone. The last low tier school admissions dean I spoke to sounded more like an ape than a human, so you'll have to speak real slowly.
But to put your mind at rest, anyone with dismal MCAT scores and a dismal GPA can get into a low tier MD school. Despite what you may have read, the schools at the low end of the rankings are disgusting and most grads are ashamed to go there. Some of the schools don't even teach "grown up" medicine, and you'll spend four years learning how to open a box of Band-Aids.
Umm..low tier medical schools? umm...I think there's one in Cuba that an adviser has been encouraging kids to apply to. U should check that out.
Can anyone list some low tier schools and give their average accepted student stats?
JHU-37, 3.9
Stanford-37, 3.9
WashU-46, 4.5
These come to mind when thinking of low tier med schools.
JHU-37, 3.9
Stanford-37, 3.9
WashU-46, 4.5
These come to mind when thinking of low tier med schools.
I guess I will be nice and throw the OP a bone:
Outside of the HBCs, the low tier (unranked) schools have an average MCAT around a 29 and an average GPA ranging from a 3.5-3.6. The HBC averages are going to be only marginally less than the above stats, if at all.
JHU-37, 3.9
Stanford-37, 3.9
WashU-46, 4.5
These come to mind when thinking of low tier med schools.
Umm..low tier medical schools? umm...I think there's one in Cuba that an adviser has been encouraging kids to apply to. U should check that out.
Actually, cuban medical schools are really good. So, that isn't the great attempt at sarcasm. Now, the eastern european ones that are making an attempt at getting american students..that is another story.
That being said.. The "low tiers" (which I really don't put much stock in) are considered to be schools like rfu, vcu, temple, drexel, nymc, albany, etc. I know a kid that got into michigan and wash u and denied post interview from nymc and rfu. So, nothing is a given.
To the OP,
It is not to say that very good schools would not consider a 27 MCAT. I had a 27 on my MCAT, it was never questioned. I was accepted to AECOM, UPITT, and UCONN...although some are higher ranked than others, the truth is that they all only accept about 3% of applicants. I would consider only a very small portion of US medical programs to be low tier. My opinion is that most schools base their standards on their goals, that is, some are just looking for people who are likely to go into primary care, while others are looking for those candidates that have the potential to be specialist and 'nobel prize laureates.'
Work hard, be yourself, and you may land a star school,..regardless, any accredited school in the US is better than schools abroad or no school at all.
JHU-37, 3.9
Stanford-37, 3.9
WashU-46, 4.5
These come to mind when thinking of low tier med schools.
Harvard is, too, low tier. They have self inflated egos. The only school worth attending is the Medical college of MIT.Yeah anything that's not Harvard is pretty much a terrible school.
Harvard is, too, low tier. They have self inflated egos. The only school worth attending is the Medical college of MIT.
Medical school of Hard Knocks >>>>>Hogwarts.I respectfully have to disagree. Hogwarts >>> MC of MIT.
Harvard is, too, low tier. They have self inflated egos. The only school worth attending is the Stewart University SOM.
I think all schools require MCATs these days except for those ill-regarded BA/MD programs.
MCV/VCU? Really?
Stewie U isnt funny anymorefixed.
That's what many people think since their numbers are lower compared to others (especially on the east coast) and every borderline applicant and his mother applies there. Belies the fact that it has a tremendous reputation (especially within Virginia), produces great doctors, people fall in love with it when they interview, etc.
Anyway, I know the OP meant "lower tier" in the context of "low stats," but that term often is used to insinuate some schools don't train competent doctors. As demonstrated above, the idea of a lower tier med school is stupid. If you go to school in the United States you are going to a "top tier" med school.
Threads like this make me wish there was a "worthless" function on these forums. There should be a worthless button at the top of a thread, and if 75%+ of people who viewed the thread click it the thread would be instantly deleted.
That would clean up pre-allo quite a bit.
Threads like this make me wish there was a "worthless" function on these forums. There should be a worthless button at the top of a thread, and if 75%+ of people who viewed the thread click it the thread would be instantly deleted.
That would clean up pre-allo quite a bit.
stuff.
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i think you have always wanted a cupcake.. don't try to pin this on me!
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The OP obviously has lower stats and is looking for MD schools they stand a chance at. Sure they lack eloquence but they are looking for advice. Instead of advice they get a bunch of people who laugh at their own jokes.
In all seriousness, there is a good answer to this question.
Low tier MD schools are in 2 groups of schools:
* Puerto Rico (Ponce, Universidad Central, U of PR)
* Historically black (Morehouse, Meharry, Howard)
Lowest tier MD schools are this group:
* Caribbean (St. George's and a bunch you've never heard of)
Some allopathic medical schools don't even require you to take the MCAT... I've never seen this outside of the Caribbean however.
People who trash D.O. degrees don't realize than the M.D. degree is much easier to come by. One just has to be willing to go outside of the country.
There are no low-tier medical schools. If there are any, you could say (without offending osteopaths) that DO schools are "back-ups" in that their entry requirements of GPA and MCAT are generally lower than allopathic medical schools. Plus, I do not think according USNWR and MSAR that there is a school that has over a 15-20% acceptance rate. I would consider that threshold rather selective and competitive.
The problem with putting the historically black med schools into the context most people would like is that unless you are really interested in a career following these schools' mission statements, most people STILL wouldn't get in.
And anyone who uses the "tier" terminology is kidding themselves. There will always be schools ranked higher on USNews that will accept you while "lower ranked" schools won't even interview you (see my MDApps). Thinking that stats are the only thing that matter is why so many people year after year never get in. It's just not that simple.
Sarcasm??? On SDN?!?!?!?!Hrmmm... hrmmm... two of these posts seem very sarcastic, I just can't tell though