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thegreatjaspy said:
Ok I skimmed this thread and here is what I am wondering:
Although my beliefs do not directly align with this school I do not think it would be an impossible environment for me, I will just put those dance lessons on hold...
the main thing that concerns me is living with a significant other, I am getting my parents to warm up to the idea and now I have a school administration to worry about? Can anyone confirm that you 100% cannot live with a non-spouse significant other?
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why tell them what they dont need to know?
 
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I can confirm 100% that their handbook of student conduct says that's an expulsatory offense.

I can also confirm 100% that their admissions dept said on interview day that "If you're living with your girlfriend that's your business, but we hope you'll get married and invite us to the wedding to celebrate with you."

thegreatjaspy said:
Ok I skimmed this thread and here is what I am wondering:
Although my beliefs do not directly align with this school I do not think it would be an impossible environment for me, I will just put those dance lessons on hold...
the main thing that concerns me is living with a significant other, I am getting my parents to warm up to the idea and now I have a school administration to worry about? Can anyone confirm that you 100% cannot live with a non-spouse significant other?
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csx said:
"The Food Stamp Program, administered by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, is proud to be distributing this year the greatest amount of free Meals and Food Stamps ever, to 47 million people as of the most recent figures available in 2013.

Meanwhile, the National Park Service, administered by the U.S. Department of the Interior, asks us "Please Do Not Feed the Animals."

Their stated reason for the policy is because "The animals will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to take care of themselves.""

why tell them what they dont need to know?
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Oh snap, burn
 
csx said:
"The Food Stamp Program, administered by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, is proud to be distributing this year the greatest amount of free Meals and Food Stamps ever, to 47 million people as of the most recent figures available in 2013.

Meanwhile, the National Park Service, administered by the U.S. Department of the Interior, asks us "Please Do Not Feed the Animals."

Their stated reason for the policy is because "The animals will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to take care of themselves.""

why tell them what they dont need to know?
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If you knew anything about poverty, unemployment, foraging, victory gardening, wild animals and poaching, you would not have made that asinine comparison.
 
csx said:
"The Food Stamp Program, administered by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, is proud to be distributing this year the greatest amount of free Meals and Food Stamps ever, to 47 million people as of the most recent figures available in 2013.

Meanwhile, the National Park Service, administered by the U.S. Department of the Interior, asks us "Please Do Not Feed the Animals."

Their stated reason for the policy is because "The animals will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to take care of themselves.""

why tell them what they dont need to know?
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maybe forestry should be a premed requirement now...
 
hahahahahah oops, that quote wasn't supposed to go here. wrong forum!
 
Best pun I've seen so far🤣🤣🤣:boom:
guylewis said:
The funny thing is that these kinds of places that dont allow premarital sex tend to have higher rates of STDs, and more anal and oral sex than the outside population. To paraphrase Bill Maher: people always find loopholes to rules. In this case, two to be exact
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I went to a christian school exactly like LUCOM that had some PhD/graduate programs as well. I think LUCOM purposefully dances around the question of med students being exempt from their rules so that people aren't completely turned off from applying ($$$). But if you decide to attend LUCOM and start making waves or demonstrating "non-christian" behavior, I fully believe they will use whatever rule necessary to find a reason to kick you out. Just because the Dean or whoever shrugs their shoulders and says "well, we don't really care what you do in your personal life" doesn't mean you, as med students, are exempt from the rules - not by a long shot. It means they don't want to answer the question.

At least that is what I witnessed at my own school.
 
serenade said:
Linda Loma has one of the most respected hospitals in all of California attached to it and does more research than all the DO schools combined. You cannot compare two schools like this.

Linda Loma also doesn't have a directly attached agenda of political supremacy and is not a quazi for profit online school created by a man who likely is burning in the hell he wished to condemn so many others to.
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Hell doesn't exist.
 
So the latest school to get accreditation- William Carey, about 1/3 of the class failed step 1, about 1/3 of the class failed to match initially and had to scramble, and about 70% of the class is doing primary care, mostly AOA family medicine in the middle of nowhere. Inagural class size was 100, at the end of 4 years -86 graduated and matched. Some schools just have no business trying to open a medical school. I predict similar numbers for LUCOM.
 
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EMDO2018 said:
So the latest school to get accreditation- William Carey, about 1/3 of the class failed step 1, about 1/3 of the class failed to match initially and had to scramble, and about 70% of the class is doing primary care, mostly AOA family medicine in the middle of nowhere. Inagural class size was 100, at the end of 4 years -86 graduated and matched. Some schools just have no business trying to open a medical school. I predict similar numbers for LUCOM.
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Honestly I'm surprised they got through the accrd process without being placed on probation.

Regardless, I have nothing else to add about COCA and disgracing our profession as a whole that I haven't stated before.
 
EMDO2018 said:
So the latest school to get accreditation- William Carey, about 1/3 of the class failed step 1, about 1/3 of the class failed to match initially and had to scramble, and about 70% of the class is doing primary care, mostly AOA family medicine in the middle of nowhere. Inagural class size was 100, at the end of 4 years -86 graduated and matched. Some schools just have no business trying to open a medical school. I predict similar numbers for LUCOM.
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I sincerely hope not, for the sake of those in attendance.
 
EMDO2018 said:
So the latest school to get accreditation- William Carey, about 1/3 of the class failed step 1, about 1/3 of the class failed to match initially and had to scramble, and about 70% of the class is doing primary care, mostly AOA family medicine in the middle of nowhere. Inagural class size was 100, at the end of 4 years -86 graduated and matched. Some schools just have no business trying to open a medical school. I predict similar numbers for LUCOM.
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Link plz
 
EMDO2018 said:
So the latest school to get accreditation- William Carey, about 1/3 of the class failed step 1, about 1/3 of the class failed to match initially and had to scramble, and about 70% of the class is doing primary care, mostly AOA family medicine in the middle of nowhere. Inagural class size was 100, at the end of 4 years -86 graduated and matched. Some schools just have no business trying to open a medical school. I predict similar numbers for LUCOM.
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110 started there in 2010, so only 78% graduated in 4 years.

LMU's first class was similar, only about 75% graduated in 4 years.

source: http://www.aacom.org/data/studentenrollment/Documents/2008-2013_AppEnrollGrad.pdf
 
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Looking at the history of the LCME accredited schools that have been opened in the last 10 years, you hardly can find a school with opening class size greater than 100.
 
COCA having a school reduce in size due to the herd not having enough herders to keep over 20% from de-celling: Non-sequitor
COCA not allowing the same school to open 3 satellite campuses instead: Epic!

JGimpel
University of Phoenix College of Osteopathic Medicine

Loopholes...HAHAHAHA!!!
 
Makati2008 said:
Yep. It's not a bad school but you have to be very motivated to get through and clinical sites are.....well I just want to know where my 3rd/4th year money went....
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What do you mean by saying 'you have to get motivated to get through'? Are the profs not good? I have heard about their clinical sites problem... I think they admit too many students.
 
Makati2008 said:
Yep. It's not a bad school but you have to be very motivated to get through and clinical sites are.....well I just want to know where my 3rd/4th year money went....
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Did everyone match from your class?
 
COCA is destroying the DO degree and consequently might regress the medical profession in general... Have they seen what has happened to law school and what is happening right now to pharmacy school? What can possibly happen when you let a school open with 150+ students in their inaugural class? Are these people (COCA members) in it for some kind of personal gain?
 
BestDoctorEver said:
What do you mean by saying 'you have to get motivated to get through'? Are the profs not good? I have heard about their clinical sites problem... I think they admit too many students.
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The clinical faculty is great minus a couple. The physiology department wasn't the best. Not a good tutoring system in place( or wasn't when I was there) if you have a question and go to a professor you will usually be competing with 5-6 other folks to ask a question and even then your question might not be answered fully since the other people put their input in.

The pharm dept was good when I was there(I had Johnson and Babos), Biochem was good(had Kiick and did very well), neuro is well taught etc...
 
I guess people like LMU because it is in a beautiful location.
 
Well, no matter the bickering btw us all, Liberty sure had no problem filling up those seats.

Honestly, I'm going to make my own DO school. Think COCA will approve me?
 
Honestly, if the graduates of DO schools want it, they can change osteopathic medicine from the inside out.
Makati2008 said:
Yep. It's not a bad school but you have to be very motivated to get through and clinical sites are.....well I just want to know where my 3rd/4th year money went....
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So.. what are your rotations like?
 
serenade said:
Honestly, if the graduates of DO schools want it, they can change osteopathic medicine from the inside out.



So.. what are your rotations like?
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Let me say ob,psych, peds, gen surg were fine.

A few examples:
My 3rd year IM was 2 months of sitting in an office doing very little getting there at 630a and leaving between 5p-7p based on the day. Didn't see a whole lot of patients on the service.

My family medicine was ok but saw very few patients. Good hours though. My initial fm site decided to stop taking students(and didn't tell us) so I was lucky to even get the fm rotation I had. The preceptor that took me told me the ONLY reason he took me was because I drove to his office and asked him because he literally told the school no about another student a few hours earlier .

Trying to schedule the rotations also were a pain. I tried to set up an adult cardiology rotation no luck. Also electives like anesthesia/radiology were either unavailable or the drive was 80miles daily.

School EM rotation was a major pain as well, I was a few hundred miles away from home for it and there was a snafu with the paperwork and the school almost made me drive back to my home but I put in the work to get the paper work expedited.

My fourth year IM was a pain as well. It was a lot of hours with moderate work which was good for teaching but the school was honestly useless.

I emailed the course director some questions and was never responded too in some instances( I could tell he read them via the read receipt). Also this rotation being 8 weeks cost me a lot of interviews and I tried to even give the school my vacation to get off for interviews but they wouldn't budge.

They said the rotation had "unique educational experiences so you need to do it in the 8 week structure " Let me say I had 1/2 the didactics did in less than 2 hours and I completed the final portion of them in probably a hr after getting the info to finish the case. Also my school has lost a few sites but increased class size which confuses me? Furthermore, I am wondering why the school is not nurturing any rotations with one of the major hospital systems here as well since they expanded so fast.

I apologize for the grammar and syntax I know it's bad.
 
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Jeez, that sounds kinda awful tbh.

I mean, one of the reasons I dropped schools on my list from last year was really purely because I believed that they made 3rd and 4th year excruciating. And honestly, driving 2 hours daily just to borderline shadow a primary care physician sounds absurd and borderline Gevitzian.

Did you at least match and do well on the boards?
 
BestDoctorEver said:
COCA is destroying the DO degree and consequently might regress the medical profession in general... Have they seen what has happened to law school and what is happening right now to pharmacy school? What can possibly happen when you let a school open with 150+ students in their inaugural class? Are these people (COCA members) in it for some kind of personal gain?
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I don't get why the AOA can't just issue a statement denouncing the opening of new schools. Even though it would not legally force COCA into anything, their voice would matter.
 
serenade said:
Jeez, that sounds kinda awful tbh.

I mean, one of the reasons I dropped schools on my list from last year was really purely because I believed that they made 3rd and 4th year excruciating. And honestly, driving 2 hours daily just to borderline shadow a primary care physician sounds absurd and borderline Gevitzian.

Did you at least match and do well on the boards?
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Lol if I didn't match I wouldn't be on sdn being so open because I would need them next cycle. My board scores are fine(studying to take level 3 in less than a week before intern year starts), I matched at my #1 which is a very good program.

I would say 4th year I was very angry as well as bitter at my school but time heals all wounds but I am still a little bitter and hope that students get both sides of the coin about lmu.

I do feel like a hypocritical person though because there was a poster who had very valid complaints about lmu that was a 4th year when I started and I was a bit of a jerk to him. Fortunately I'm a big enough person to admit he was right .
 
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Makati2008 said:
Lol if I didn't match I wouldn't be on sdn being so open because I would need them next cycle. My board scores are fine(studying to take level 3 in less than a week before intern year starts), I matched at my #1 which is a very good program.

I would say 4th year I was very angry as well as bitter at my school but time heals all wounds but I am still a little bitter and hope that students get both sides of the coin about lmu.

I do feel like a hypocritical person though because there was a poster who had very valid complaints about lmu that was a 4th year when I started and I was a bit of a jerk to him. Fortunately I'm a big enough person to admit he was right .
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I see, well in the end you got where you wanted to be right?
 
GypsyHummus said:
Did everyone match from your class?
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I would have to get a graduation program to count but I can remember six that didn't right off top. I don't count tris as matching(the 3 I'm thinking of).

That's not really the best metric though because there will always be people to not match. Heck I know of a US MD with no spot still.
 
Well even though their ideology may be idiotic, I hear they still award a doctorate of osteopathic medicine after four years!

Now residency is a different story
 
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