Has anyone ever listed a different state as his or her state of residence in order to apply to another state's MD school(s)? I'm currently waiting on a decision from my in-state school. If not accepted, I plan on moving to another state, but not until the end of the summer, likely well past when I submit my AMCAS. Does anyone have experience with such a situation? Any advice? Of course, this is probably illegal too...I'm aware of that. Just curious.
Lying about home address on AMCAS?
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I would think that if they did a background check or you had to apply for financial aid, the school would find out all of your recent addresses. In other words, lying at all on the AMCAS or secondaries is BAD.
Good luck.
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Risky, to say the least, if you are claiming a state that is not your actual state of residency on the AMCAS. The state school in which you are not a resident will ask you to submit a residency verification form. If you don't qualify, but claimed residency on your AMCAS, that's where they'll likely find out, I would think. I doubt that they'll take legal action, however; they have too many applications. They'll probably just treat you as a non-resident for tuition and admissions purposes.
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I don't see how this could work. I don't know about other schools, but my state school went very into detail to confirm my state residency (verifying when I registered to vote, when I registered my car in the state, when I got my state's driver's license, etc.). So they definitey have ways to check that you have been a resident long enough.
Mine did all that as well, and also even wanted to know my residency in terms of taxes filed the last 3-5 years or something. If schools have a residency requirement, they're not just going to take your word for it. Don't lie, especially since there are state schools that grant you resident-status in a year, or have no real in-state preference.
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Don't lie.
But not all schools check; mine even refused to confirm my residency status (which was legally unclear) when I was trying to figure out if I'd qualify for in-state tuition after I had been accepted. I wasn't confirmed until 2 weeks before classes started.
But not all schools check; mine even refused to confirm my residency status (which was legally unclear) when I was trying to figure out if I'd qualify for in-state tuition after I had been accepted. I wasn't confirmed until 2 weeks before classes started.
Say you apply to an OOS school and are accepted. You then make a permanent move to that state. After a year (or whatever the residency requirement is) would you get to pay in-state tuition?
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Address honestly doesn't matter...where your car is registered, where you pay taxes, if you own property and what state is listed on your driver's license are the things that matter. AMCAS doesn't verify your state of residence, but many state schools have very thorough mechanisms for classifying applicants for tuition purposes and they will not hesitate to nail you. I applied from a New York address, but I am clearly a resident of Iowa based on the above qualifications, the University of Iowa made me petition for residency classification. The moral of the story is if you want to be a resident of a particular state for tuition purposes (or because potentially you have a better shot) you need to change all of the things listed above.
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The schools themselves do residency checks. good to see you have a strong foundation of ethics to begin your medical career
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This is a tough topic to discuss because states vary somewhat widely with respect to their residency requirements. In my home state, they make an official determination during the admissions process, so this wouldn't work at all. Keep in mind that for all of the states I'm familiar with, they consider your residency at the time of the application NOT what it is projected to be, so you'd have a year left in your old state after you move. Of course the old state may ask you why you left and think that you don't really intend to practice there anymore making you an indirect sort of applicant without a state. If you want a full opinion, you'd have to tell me what two states you're talking about.
Yep, but it would be unusual for someone to get in oos after being rejected in a home state without significant changes in the application unless there is some nepotism or strange circumstance in play.
The one year rule usually applies particularly if all of the things sno mentioned are documented and you didn't actually enroll as a student greater than half time in your new home. That act in itself would look like you moved there for educational purposes alone.
Wizard solution--federal driver's license with standard state resident requirements across the board.
Yep, but it would be unusual for someone to get in oos after being rejected in a home state without significant changes in the application unless there is some nepotism or strange circumstance in play.
The one year rule usually applies particularly if all of the things sno mentioned are documented and you didn't actually enroll as a student greater than half time in your new home. That act in itself would look like you moved there for educational purposes alone.
Wizard solution--federal driver's license with standard state resident requirements across the board.
Interesting.
Not worried about my moral foundation, as I have no intention of actually lying on my AMCAS. Just wanted to stir up some debate and see what people actually had to say regarding my situation. While it's fairly evident I will not be able to apply as a resident to the state I'm interested in, I wanted to get other peoples takes on potential solutions, etc. Solution in a nutshell...move now, file my 06 taxes in state of interest, change d.l., car reg, etc, etc, etc. State requirements suck, especially when one's state has one program that's extremely competitive. Thanks for the input so far though...
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👍 No kidding. Don't lie on your application -- especially about something so easily checked!
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You forget about us poor CA residents. We get rejected left and right in-state but do pretty well OOS.
And its not always true that you can pay in-state tuition. It depends on the school. I got into UK and there is pretty much no way for me to get in-state residency while I'm there unless I have a spouse that is working in KY.
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With all due respect, D-Bone, your original post had a tone which indicated that you were at least thinking about dissembling. Indeed, I suspect you were attempted to gauge whether it could work. If you were really looking for alternative solutions, there could have been more direct ways of asking.
Anyway, I have no basis for my argument, so whatever with it. Just don't intentionally lie on your AMCAS; that's what everyone is suggesting. Explore the individual regulations of the state in which you intend to attain residency. It's easier in some states, and harder in others. NJ has pretty easy residency requirements, for example.
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True, true. There seems to be a trend with us red-staters, very unfriendly to outsiders in my neck of the woods; and once you present yourself as oos, best of luck trying to change their minds.
Yeah, about Cali, glp and I were just talking the other day about how much easier it is to get into med school as residents of small states. You look at my house, and half of the state residents who applied were accepted. Pretty much every MCAT over about 31 got taken if they were in-state without regard to the rest of the application. I guess this is the flip side of the red states.
Sorry Cali, you may have the weather, the ladies, the massive representation in congress, some of the highest-powered med schools, a muscular governor, and a buttload of residents, but my wimpy school will get me the same MD as you. Too bad we still have dirt roads and drive covered wagons. The out-houses are kinda messy too.
Luckily my choices for PGY will be much more varied than they were for med school...
