LYING ON MED SCHOOL Application

[xylem29]

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Yikes! Why would you want to be a catalyst to the possible destruction of someone else's life/career? How does this benefit you? Do you understand by reporting this, the school will have to use resources to launch an investigation... resources that could be put to better use?

If this guy is a third year, he probably has loans to repay. Have you given any thought as to how, he will be able to repay his loans or even gain employment? Yes, he lied but it is not your place to try and destroy him for it. DO NOT DO THIS. 🙁

Good post 👍

 

[Revenant]

Totally snitch on him and ruin his life. Screw him.

Then when he kills himself go to his funeral mock his grieving family.

 

[FutureeMD]

Totally snitch on him and ruin his life. Screw him.

Then when he kills himself go to his funeral mock his grieving family.

I agree with the above post. At least you can always comfort yourself by saying you made the world a better place by getting rid of a liar....wait a sec...have you ever lied before?

Like many posts have already mention, mind your own cup of tea. The student obviously isn't a bad one since he made all the way to 3rd year. On the other hand, the blackmailing idea would have been gold!!!!!

 

[NonTradMed]

👍 Great way to make some cash when you're a poor, strung-out resident.

But in all seriousness, I'll jump on the bandwagon and agree with everyone else. It's not up to you to tell on this guy. If anything, he's going to live the rest of his life paranoid; I know I would. All it takes is some maligned ex-gf or something who also knows this happened to report all this to the state licensing board years later, and who knows what could happen? Maybe nothing, but at the same time, maybe his license could get revoked, or something like that. This would put my stress level through the roof, I know that for sure.

The guy has f***ed himself over, leave him alone.

Definitely think that's the ultimate punishment for those that lie on their application.

On a personal note, I knew someone who made a few big lies on his resume when he was looking for a job---I'm not talking about fluffing his resume, but actually writing down skills he didn't know, projects he didn't do and arranged one of his friends to pretend to be his manager and reference. I didn't think he would get away with it, but he did end up getting his job, so I guess that karma will have to wait to get him next time! 🙄

 

[jochi1543]

Definitely think that's the ultimate punishment for those that lie on their application.

On a personal note, I knew someone who made a few big lies on his resume when he was looking for a job---I'm not talking about fluffing his resume, but actually writing down skills he didn't know, projects he didn't do and arranged one of his friends to pretend to be his manager and reference. I didn't think he would get away with it, but he did end up getting his job, so I guess that karma will have to wait to get him next time! 🙄

Yeah, a similar thing happened at one Canadian med school sometime recently (don't know where and when exactly). Some guy pretended that he started up some sort of business for his EC list and used a friend as a "verifier" (most, if not all Canadian schools require you to provide contact info for someone to confirm everything on your app). The adcom called and the friend pretended like everything did happen and talked in a lot of detail about that "business." The guy got in, but somehow, it resurfaced later (not sure how exactly) and he got kicked out.

 

[Zweihander]

I'm sure the school has too much invested to kick a student out.

This would be wrong. I know of a guy who forged a rec to get into med school (it was the panel letter that your college is supposed to do for you -- his college refused him one), was accepted, and after six years (failed a year twice) as a *fourth* year his deception was discovered and they simply punted him.

 

[NonTradMed]

This would be wrong. I know of a guy who forged a rec to get into med school (it was the panel letter that your college is supposed to do for you -- his college refused him one), was accepted, and after six years (failed a year twice) as a *fourth* year his deception was discovered and they simply punted him.

Are you serious?! 😱

Well, that sucks even more----six years of debt and gets a boot on his last year!

 

[FutureeMD]

This would be wrong. I know of a guy who forged a rec to get into med school (it was the panel letter that your college is supposed to do for you -- his college refused him one), was accepted, and after six years (failed a year twice) as a *fourth* year his deception was discovered and they simply punted him.

That's terrifying . I bet he cried out all his body fluid. What can he do next that's medicine related....cuz I doubt he'll get into another school.

 

[da8s0859q]

This would be wrong. I know of a guy who forged a rec to get into med school (it was the panel letter that your college is supposed to do for you -- his college refused him one), was accepted, and after six years (failed a year twice) as a *fourth* year his deception was discovered and they simply punted him.

Holy ****! 😱

 

[foreverLaur]

uhm.. im a two time transfer stuent and on all my transcripts it shows the colleges i previously went to, the classes i took there, and the grades i received. they aren't use to calculate my GPA but they are there. i'd love to hear how he pulled that one off.

 

[FIREitUP]

uhm.. im a two time transfer stuent and on all my transcripts it shows the colleges i previously went to, the classes i took there, and the grades i received. they aren't use to calculate my GPA but they are there. i'd love to hear how he pulled that one off.

he probably didn't apply as a transfer student, he probably applied as an incoming freshman.

 

[foreverLaur]

he probably didn't apply as a transfer student, he probably applied as an incoming freshman.

transfer student in undergrad. i thought we were talkin about getting into med school?

 

[FIREitUP]

transfer student in undergrad. i thought we were talkin about getting into med school?

we are, but the OP was referring to a student who took undergrad courses and failed a few, and then started brand new at a new university. I am saying that he probably just applied as a freshman instead of a transfer student (therefore the failures are not on his record).

 

[Zweihander]

Are you serious?! 😱

Well, that sucks even more----six years of debt and gets a boot on his last year!

Yes, this was my first thought when I heard about this. There aren't many lines of work in which you can afford to pay back the kind of debt we accrue in med school -- I hope the dood was more talented in some other field than he turned out to be in medicine.

That's terrifying . I bet he cried out all his body fluid. What can he do next that's medicine related....cuz I doubt he'll get into another school.

He shouldn't have gotten into the first one either. Apparently, the whole reason this came to light was because his med school dean was *incidentally* speaking to the Health Careers advisor of the undergrad in question about a totally unrelated matter, and then happened to say: "By the way, how could you recommend this student to us -- he is terrible!" At which point the advisor did some looking and said: "Um, we never recommended that student to you. We denied him a rec." 😱

 

[xylem29]

This would be wrong. I know of a guy who forged a rec to get into med school (it was the panel letter that your college is supposed to do for you -- his college refused him one), was accepted, and after six years (failed a year twice) as a *fourth* year his deception was discovered and they simply punted him.

Wow, what bad luck. So if this guy had actually done well in med school and never gave the dean any reason to go and contact his undergrad 6 years later, he would've gotten away with it...I wonder if regulatory bodies or associations and things of that nature "look into" bad physicians (those that don't follow the regulations or those that continually keep getting sued more than the average) - and actually go back and investigate their AMCAS files. Imagine getting caught for lying on your application when you're like 55!

 

[nampa1]

what would happen if it was proved you lied on your application after you graduated? Is it really that bad not to disclose all of your schools?

 

[GrumpyAlyson06]

OP: I fart in your general direction.

What's OP????

 

[ChiDoc27]

OP = Original Post/ Original Poster

 

[ZacharyMD]

I know a guy who lied on his med school application about the fact that he failed several classes then transferred to another college and started new
this person did not report his failing grades to AMCAS or med school he got into

what are the repercussions to this guy if i report him?> anyone know for sure??

Get a life, please. 👎

 

[bellacnella]

why would anyone rat someone out for doing this? what is the reason?

 

[PilSeungKorea]

Get a life, please. 👎

 

[da8s0859q]

what is the reason?

To be a tool, I 'spose? The world may never know.

 

[ufgrad00]

I guess I will have to contact the school to figure this one out...false information on application are usually grounds for dismissal

Why don't you also push his/her car off a ledge and kick their parents in the face while you are at it.

Wouldn't it be funny if ultimately the courses were nontrasferable at any institution anways. Like some tech courses or courses from a non accredited school. Or maybe he didn't fail and just lied to YOU (OP) about failing.

 

[bluesTank]

The OP got owned on this thread.

 

[paranoid_eyes]

whatever you do, never be a playa hater and snitch 👎

thats never any fun...

 

[Bananas Foster]

He is now a 3rd yr med student and did not tell the school of his failing grades from undergrad from college A.

Now the question is can anything be done about it at this point and what are the consequesnces??

He's a med student?? Why is this in the pre-med forum??

 

[Retro Virus]

Understanding that this thread is probably not for real and we're talking hypotheticals here:

If you let this guy go, maybe he'll become an amazing doctor and save thousands of lives, or maybe he'll become a mediocre doctor who keeps up his habit of lying and gets people killed. Heck, maybe he's only made it this far because he's a cheating scumbag and as soon as he has a chance to screw up and get somebody killed he's going to take it. You don't know, and you shouldn't worry about it; all that matters is that he lied. Lying isn't a big deal, you say? We've all lied at one point or another, you say? Fine, those are great points, so let him take them up with his Dean.

If you can prove his deceit and you want report to him for it, I say do it. Whatever happens after that is between him and his school, and if his life is ruined he has only himself to blame.

 

[Chris Knight]

ALSO Understanding that this thread is probably not for real and we're talking hypotheticals here:

It is my understanding that the majority of medical schools do not keep applications indefinitely. I know my own school destroys them midway through first year or so. A third year student most likely wouldn't have any record of whether or not he disclosed his previous coursework or not. Maybe AMCAS keeps previous apps? Even if they did thats far more trouble than any med school administration would be willing to go just to dig up dirt on a med student that is otherwise performing fine. I figure most deans would just ignore any such tip as long as the student was performing well.