MarWWel -- GAME THREAD

[potentialsheltervet]

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Why would bob kill TME though?

Because the only thing we have confirming his wincon of yeet one villager and one wolf is his word. For all we know he could have to kill a villager and a wolf. We literally have no idea.

 

[samac]

Ehhh if the 3p is neutral with no killing ability, it could balance well with a pack of 3 plus lone wolf imo. Especially since it seems there are a few village prs/items in play

Also I imagine as a line wolf Mel would have had some kind of killing ability in the mix.
It’s a lot.

I think this is a concoction to stay alive and he’s a wolf because he knew if he was lie detected on a sentence saying he’ll flip village he’s going down.
I think we need to yeet him.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Also I imagine as a line wolf Mel would have had some kind of killing ability in the mix.
It’s a lot.

I think this is a concoction to stay alive and he’s a wolf because he knew if he was lie detected on a sentence saying he’ll flip village he’s going down.
I think we need to yeet him.

Strongly agree.

 

[Zenge142]

...I forgot bread existed, too, shoot.

That should be a short ISO

 

[violetvett]

Because the only thing we have confirming his wincon of yeet one villager and one wolf is his word. For all we know he could have to kill a villager and a wolf. We literally have no idea.

So we would have a wolf pack, a lone wolf, a vig, AND a 3P kill?
That just feels like too much for me, from a mechanics perspective.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Also based on the writeups this game is based on The Avengers, where Loki was literally the main villain and very anti-Avenger. Lore-wise it wouldn't make much sense for him to be 3p here.
The worst thing that can happen with us yeeting Bob is we kill a 3p. Which is whoops, our (my) bad, but not as bad as yeeting a villager. Best case scenario is Bob is, in fact, a wolf, and we take another one out.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

So we would have a wolf pack, a lone wolf, a vig, AND a 3P kill?
That just feels like too much for me, from a mechanics perspective.

Well, I'm of the opinion Bob is actually wolfing. I'm playing devil's advocate for those who believe his role reveal.

 

[BobLoblaw78]

Him not pushing a village misyeet.

Ewwww. That sounds gross. Maybe 3p is as bad as being a wolf.

I’m uncertain enough as it is who is wolf. So I’m not intentionally yeeting a villager when I don’t have to. I have to sleep at night

 

[samac]

Ewwww. That sounds gross. Maybe 3p is as bad as being a wolf.

I’m uncertain enough as it is who is wolf. So I’m not intentionally yeeting a villager when I don’t have to. I have to sleep at night

You literally have to if you’re going to win, though. We haven’t misyeeted a villager yet.

 

[samac]

Well, I'm of the opinion Bob is actually wolfing. I'm playing devil's advocate for those who believe his role reveal.

I agree.
This is genius after knowing a lie detector is in play.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I don’t have to.

By your own stated wincon you do, in fact, have to misyeet a villager.

 

[samac]

By your own stated wincon you do, in fact, have to misyeet a villager.

In the future come out with it when you have the information while the person is online so they don’t have time to craft something up.

 

[Dana_May_B]

Also based on the writeups this game is based on The Avengers, where Loki was literally the main villain and very anti-Avenger. Lore-wise it wouldn't make much sense for him to be 3p here.
The worst thing that can happen with us yeeting Bob is we kill a 3p. Which is whoops, our (my) bad, but not as bad as yeeting a villager. Best case scenario is Bob is, in fact, a wolf, and we take another one out.

ok im willing to see this out. ill stay on bob tonight. im sure if bob is revealed 3p, more people will join my cubs suspicions tomorrow anyways. but i dont want to risk a misyeet by falling for a fake role reveal

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I'm uncomfy with the idea of yeeting cubs in a "poke it with a stick and see if it's village" sense. If Bob actually flips neutral 3p, okay, I suppose we have to pursue the cubs route. But there's a pretty substantial possibility, in my mind, that Bob is lying and wolfing. I'm way more interested in flipping him.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Hey guys. Can I share a secret?

 

[samac]

I'm uncomfy with the idea of yeeting cubs in a "poke it with a stick and see if it's village" sense. If Bob actually flips neutral 3p, okay, I suppose we have to pursue the cubs route. But there's a pretty substantial possibility, in my mind, that Bob is lying and wolfing. I'm way more interested in flipping him.

And if Bob is wolfing and the game is still going I’d think cubs is village.

I’m with you shelty.

 

[samac]

Hey guys. Can I share a secret?

Did you make me proud?

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I'm not a lie detector. I have no special abilities. I strongly think Bob is wolfing or at least not village-friendly, so I laid a trap and waited to see if someone would take the bait.
Feels a bit like an dingus move but it worked with stoat/Dana in the noob game.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I'm not a lie detector. I have no special abilities. I strongly think Bob is wolfing or at least not village-friendly, so I laid a trap and waited to see if someone would take the bait.
Feels a bit like an dingus move but it worked with stoat/Dana in the noob game.

Fill in the dingus blank

 

[SARdoghandler]

Also based on the writeups this game is based on The Avengers, where Loki was literally the main villain and very anti-Avenger. Lore-wise it wouldn't make much sense for him to be 3p here.
The worst thing that can happen with us yeeting Bob is we kill a 3p. Which is whoops, our (my) bad, but not as bad as yeeting a villager. Best case scenario is Bob is, in fact, a wolf, and we take another one out.

Ehhh I mean, I'm arguing for the sake of semantics now so feel free to ignore me but roles have been very outside of just Avengers. So I still believe Loki fits a neutral/chaos 3p perfectly. But if ya'll want to yeet Bob, feel free. I just have seen too many times where village gets focused on 3p and wolves steal the win. Not that I think it's happening, but that's why you won't see me parking there today.

 

[samac]

I'm not a lie detector. I have no special abilities. I strongly think Bob is wolfing or at least not village-friendly, so I laid a trap and waited to see if someone would take the bait.
Feels a bit like an dingus move but it worked with stoat/Dana in the noob game.

I hoped you were playing 4D chess

 

[samac]

Ehhh I mean, I'm arguing for the sake of semantics now so feel free to ignore me but roles have been very outside of just Avengers. So I still believe Loki fits a neutral/chaos 3p perfectly. But if ya'll want to yeet Bob, feel free. I just have seen too many times where village gets focused on 3p and wolves steal the win. Not that I think it's happening, but that's why you won't see me parking there today.

We’ve not had a misyeet yet, we’re in very good shape and he’s going to provide a distraction going forward.

 

[SARdoghandler]

In other news, if Bob is actually 3p and Cubs flips village I'd be very interested to see the flip on PSV. You know, for science.

 

[SARdoghandler]

We’ve not had a misyeet yet, we’re in very good shape and he’s going to provide a distraction going forward.

I don't consider 3p of that type a distraction but ymmv

 

[Dana_May_B]

I'm not a lie detector. I have no special abilities. I strongly think Bob is wolfing or at least not village-friendly, so I laid a trap and waited to see if someone would take the bait.
Feels a bit like an dingus move but it worked with stoat/Dana in the noob game.

ok i know its off topic but this is irking me haha-
i only started open wolfing because stoat said she saw my rojo. that's literally it. i had drafted up a whole crazy 3p claim about being a condemner in an epic rap battle with miyamiya to explain why she may have felt fur while dancing with me 🤣

 

[Zenge142]

I'm not a lie detector. I have no special abilities. I strongly think Bob is wolfing or at least not village-friendly, so I laid a trap and waited to see if someone would take the bait.
Feels a bit like an dingus move but it worked with stoat/Dana in the noob game.

OH MY GOD MY TINFOIL WAS RIGHT!!! 🤣

 

[samac]

I don't consider 3p of that type a distraction but ymmv

I’m not an anti 3P person, but I just think it’s too convenient and don’t believe him with the numbers.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

ok i know its off topic but this is irking me haha-
i only started open wolfing because stoat said she saw my rojo. that's literally it. i had drafted up a whole crazy 3p claim about being a condemner in an epic rap battle with miyamiya to explain why she may have felt fur while dancing with me 🤣

Now THAT is quite the fakeclaim, lol. I'm more impressed that stoat knew I'd seered her/knew her rolename so she came up with the whole "dancing with people to see if they have furry hips" concept.

 

[WildZoo]

It is quite rare to have a 3p solo win without them being a serial killer role

I can only think of one (@WildZoo ) in my semi-recent memory but I've missed about a year's worth of games. Most 3ps can win with either side as long as they havemet their own personal win con, which as of right now Bob hasn't based on his stated wincon

Oh you mean, the most amazing win of all time?

 

[WildZoo]

Ooh Dubz is back I can't wait for her to see my tag so she can preen just a bit

 

[potentialsheltervet]

OH MY GOD MY TINFOIL WAS RIGHT!!! 🤣

In my role PM I was like "should I do something dumb?" And then I was like "yeah I am gonna do it."
It... sort of worked, I guess? Potentially not a wolf but at least not a villager. Cubs's response to the situation mostly makes me more confident in my village read of him.

 

[WildZoo]

Never sat with me 100% village. But outside of an early vote on fluff (maybe bus). His defense of cubs and coordinated effort to push my wagon is going to look tremendously bad if cubs flips wolf

Nope. Not helping your case here lol

 

[kdswg]

I'm not a lie detector. I have no special abilities. I strongly think Bob is wolfing or at least not village-friendly, so I laid a trap and waited to see if someone would take the bait.
Feels a bit like an dingus move but it worked with stoat/Dana in the noob game.

Omg wat. Clearly I’ve missed a busy day. I was just popping in bc mods are angry I haven’t voted yet. Based on this… tentatively
Yeet bob (?)
i just got off work but I have things to do irl so it’ll be a min before I can catch up

 

[WildZoo]

OH MY GOD MY TINFOIL WAS RIGHT!!! 🤣

I had the same tinfoil
More 4D chess but at least I saw it this time lol

 

[WildZoo]

This type of stuff makes it a real possibility you are wolf.

“The only time that sporty has read zenge village was this game”. Which makes you wonder why. Maybe playing different. Or maybe couldn’t bus a packmate

Or...maybe...sporty...was...a...wolf?

 

[Dana_May_B]

I had the same tinfoil
More 4D chess but at least I saw it this time lol

ive been keeping mkg minorly informed with whats been going on in the game and she just said "i'd like to inquire when the tinfoil hat-making party is" 🤣

 

[SARdoghandler]

Oh you mean, the most amazing win of all time?

Ok but Hannibal tho 🤔

 

[BobLoblaw78]

That's possible. With the way he started to really push it once it looked like it was going to be him or cubs and saying that cubs was 100% wolf and all that

???? But cubs pushing me was what? It seems like a double standard here.

Everything I have done, cubs has done worse. Yet things get twisted that I’m worse. Whatever.

I’ll still try helping. You guys are more up against wolves than me. And the “villagers” that still wanna yeet me should really get some hard scrutiny. Sounds very wolfy to wanna waste a village yeet on 3p.

If you want to yeet me, go right ahead. I can’t help you see me any more clearly than I have already.

 

[samac]

???? But cubs pushing me was what? It seems like a double standard here.

Everything I have done, cubs has done worse. Yet things get twisted that I’m worse. Whatever.

I’ll still try helping. You guys are more up against wolves than me. And the “villagers” that still wanna yeet me should really get some hard scrutiny. Sounds very wolfy to wanna waste a village yeet on 3p.

If you want to yeet me, go right ahead. I can’t help you see me any more clearly than I have already.

Yes.
I’m super wolfy.

 

[samac]

I bussed fluff, and sporty so I could lone wolf my way for the rest of days for the GLORY

 

[Zenge142]

I bussed fluff, and sporty so I could lone wolf my way for the rest of days for the GLORY

HOLY COW

 

[WildZoo]

Yes thats me.

And so if Bob is telling the truth this would probably put the game at 3 wolves with two 3P vs 4 wolves with two 3P, and one of those being a Lone Wolf. Which seems more likely?

Im the mods favorite!!!

If Bob is telling the truth I'd agree with the that there's probably only one more wolf

I also don't really care to yeet 3p at this point and the role and abilities fit in my opinion so

Unyeet Bob

 

[SARdoghandler]

If Bob is telling the truth I'd agree with the that there's probably only one more wolf

I also don't really care to yeet 3p at this point and the role and abilities fit in my opinion so

Unyeet Bob

This is why we're frands

 

[samac]

If Bob is telling the truth I'd agree with the that there's probably only one more wolf

I also don't really care to yeet 3p at this point and the role and abilities fit in my opinion so

Unyeet Bob

Dubz pls
I think he’s just flat out lying

 

[WildZoo]

I've been eyeing dana and genny recently. I feel like one of them would have to be a wolf at that point.

Oh look, that's who my eyebrows have been raised at too

 

[BobLoblaw78]

By your own stated wincon you do, in fact, have to misyeet a villager.

No. I don’t. You guys will do it for me. You aren’t sweeping. You are tunneling on me. You have no wolfy behavior. Just my normal behavior.

 

[WildZoo]

Dubz pls
I think he’s just flat out lying

Why?

 

[cubsrule4e]

If Bob is telling the truth I'd agree with the that there's probably only one more wolf

I also don't really care to yeet 3p at this point and the role and abilities fit in my opinion so

Unyeet Bob

But… if you think there’s only one more wolf, when are you going to yeet Bob? That’s basically just letting him win with village, no?

I’m so talented that I’ve been able to extol all of my great qualities for almost 36 hours!

 

[WildZoo]

I guess the biggest issue I have with Bob’s wincon is he has still yet to participate in a village misyeet.

To win, sure... but that doesn't have to affect us unless we bring him to VoLo, which I'm not suggesting we do. And unless he secretly has a seer ability as well (which imo would be OP if he only needs one of each), it's not like he knows which votes are misyeets.

 

[samac]

Why?

For one, the numbers in the game. For two, the write ups pointing toward 4 anti village folks left.
For three, his 3P wincon as Loki may not be accurate.
I think this is still the right thing to do.