Match list 2014

[Prncssbuttercup]

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I'm not sure if that means you're in a 'transitional year' though, because clearly people on the match lists are in PM&R, Neuro, Derm, etc... so I think the transitional year (from my understanding) is that they didn't know what they wanted to match into and therefore did a transitional year, OR they weren't accepted into their specialty of choice and did a transitional year instead. We had several military people do that this year...

 

[user3]

Some specialties, like Derm, Neurology, PM&R, and Anesthesiology can only be matched as pgy-2. Applicants are required to have done pgy-1 separately.

consistently, 10-15+% of DO graduates only match into 1-year positions with no advanced spot. Are most of these people who had to scramble/SOAP and could only find these 1 yr positions?

 

[DOFutureEM22]

Where did you get that number from? It seems a little high. I would estimate that it hovers around 5-10% at most

 

[hallowmann]

Another solid list. So far, it seems DO's are doing better than previous years at matching competitive programs.

That's exactly what I was thinking. There are definitely some solid matches, and while nothing is particularly Earth shattering it shows a consistent positivetrend for DOs. That's most likely caused by greater DO acceptance and in general more competitive classes.

Everyone should be very proud.

Honestly i used to be skeptical but they seem to come out with great stats and solid match lists consistently. I think they have become an impressive school

Regardless of what people have against a school or how its run, its clear the students have worked hard and there's no reason to think that they (and DOs on a whole) won't continue to better and better.

 

[hallowmann]

I'm not sure if that means you're in a 'transitional year' though, because clearly people on the match lists are in PM&R, Neuro, Derm, etc... so I think the transitional year (from my understanding) is that they didn't know what they wanted to match into and therefore did a transitional year, OR they weren't accepted into their specialty of choice and did a transitional year instead. We had several military people do that this year...

Some might be categorical (so you can do PGY1/TRI in the same program) and others can match PGY2 and have a pre-lim/TY/TRI year match also.

 

[james2333]

Some might be categorical (so you can do PGY1/TRI in the same program) and others can match PGY2 and have a pre-lim/TY/TRI year match also.

That's exactly what I was thinking. There are definitely some solid matches, and while nothing is particularly Earth shattering it shows a consistent positivetrend for DOs. That's most likely caused by greater DO acceptance and in general more competitive classes.

Everyone should be very proud.



Regardless of what people have against a school or how its run, its clear the students have worked hard and there's no reason to think that they (and DOs on a whole) won't continue to better and better.

Any ACGME Neurosurgery, Ortho, Plastic, ENT or Rad Onc match is pretty "earth shattering" in my opinion, these were the most competitive specialties this year according to NRMP with >90% US grad Matches.

Also, someone was able match ACGME neurosurgery in California, that's pretty amazing considering there are only a handful of spots in the entire state. I couldn't even land anesthesia in CA. The gen surgery match at Northwestern is pretty groundbreaking as well. I think people underestimate how difficult it is to break into any surgical field as a DO. It's one of there reasons why I abandoned surgery. Kudos to those who kept going and matched

 

[SurgeDO]

RVUCOM
Military:
Army 13
Emergency Medicine Medical College of Georgia, Augusta
Emergency Medicine Medical College of Georgia, Augusta
Emergency Medicine Madigan Army Medical Center, Fort Lewis, Tacoma, WA
Family Medicine Madigan Army Medical Center, Fort Lewis, Tacoma,WA
Family Medicine Womack Army MC, Fort Bragg, Fayetteville, NC
Family Medicine Tripler Army Medical Center, Honolulu, HI
Internal Medicine William Beaumont Army MC, Fort Bliss, El Paso, TX
Internal Medicine William Beaumont Army MC, Fort Bliss, El Paso, TX
Neurology Madigan Army Medical Center, Fort Lewis, Tacoma, WA
OB/GYN Walter Reed, Bethesda, Maryland
Pediatrics Tripler Army Medical Center, Honolulu, HI
Psychiatry Tripler Army Medical Center, Honolulu, HI
Transitional Year Eisenhower Army Medical Center, Fort Gordon, GA

Air Force 4
General Surgery Nellis AFB, Las Vegas, Nevada
Internal Medicine Keesler Medical Center, Biloxi, Mississippi
Orthopedic Surgery Civilian Deferred
Pediatrics Wright Patterson AFB/Dayton Children's Hospital, Dayton, Ohio
Radiology David Grant MC, Travis AFB, California
Radiology Civilian Deferred
Transitional Year Civilian Deferred
Transitional Year Civilian Deferred
Transitional Year Civilian Deferred
Transitional Year Civilian Deferred


Navy 4
Anesthesiology Civilian Deferred
General Surgery Naval Medical Center, Portsmouth, VA
General Surgery Naval Medical Center, San Diego
Internal Medicine Naval Medical Center, Portsmouth, VA
Neurosurgery Civilian Deferred
Transitional Year Naval Medical Center, San Diego


AOA:
Family Medicine
9
NSU COM/MED, College of Georgia, Augusta, GA
RVUCOM St. Mary Corwin, Pueblo, CO
Blessing Health System, Quincy, IL
OSUCOM/TAHLEQUAH City Hospital, Tahlequah, OK
OPTI-West, Montana Family Medicne, Billings MT
Manchester Memorial Hospital, Manchester, CT
MWU-AZCOM, Kingman Regional Medical Center, Kingman, AZ
St. Petersburg General Hospital, St. Petersburg, FL
Guthrie, Robert Packer Hospital, Sayre, PA
Internal Medicine
15
Parkview Medical Center, Pueblo, CO
MSUCOM/Lakeland Regional Medical Center, St. Joseph, MI
MWU-AZCOM/Verde Valley Medical Center, Cottonwood, AZ
Parkview Medical Center, Pueblo, CO
RVUCOM Sky Ridge Medical Center, Parker, CO
RVUCOM Sky Ridge Medical Center, Parker, CO
McLaren-Greater Lansing, Lansing, MI
Oklahoma State University Medical Center, Tulsa, OK
RVUCOM Sky Ridge Medical Center, Parker, CO
UNTHSCTCOM/Bay Area Corpus Christi, TX
MWU-AZCOM/Verde Valley Medical Center, Cottonwood, AZ
OPTI-WEST College Medical Center, Long Beach, CA
Parkview Medical Center, Pueblo, CO
Mountain Vista Medical Center, Mesa, AZ
McLaren-Greater Lansing, Lansing, MI
Pediatrics
1
E W Sparrow Hospital, Lansing, MI
OB/GYN
2
Botsford Hospital, Farmington Hills, MI
OUHCOM/Doctors Hospital, Columbus, OH
Orthopedic Surgery
4
OSUCOM/St. Anthony Hospital, Oklahoma City, OK
McLaren-Macomb, Mt. Clemens, MI
OUHCOM/Doctors Hospital, Columbus, OH
McLaren Greater Lansing, MI
PSYCHIATRY
1
NSUCOM/Larkin Community Hosp, South Miami, FL
Surgery
5
MSUCOM/Allegience Health, Jackson MI
MSUCOM/Allegience Health, Jackson MI
Botsford Hospital, Farmington, MI
Mercy St. Vincent Medical Center, Toledo, OH
Mountain Vista Medical Center, Mesa, AZ
Otolaryngology and Facial Plastic Surgery
1
PCOM/Philadelphia Consortium, Philadephia, PA
Neurological Surgery
1
ATSU-KCOM/Advocate Bromenn Med, Normal, IL
Diagnostic Radiology
3
Botsford Hospital, Farmington Hills, MI
Oakwood Healthcare System, Trenton, MI
Brookhaven Memorial Hospital, Patchogue, NY
Emergency Medicine
8
OSUCOM/Southwest Medical Center, Oklahoma City, OK
COMANCHE County Memorial Hospital, Lawton, OK
MSUCOM Lakeland Regional Medical Center, St. Joseph, MI
St. Barnabas Hospital, Bronx, NY
E W Sparrow Hospital, Lansing, MI
OUHCOM/St. John Medical Center, West Lake, OH
OUHCOM/Doctors Hospital, Columbus, OH
St. John Prividence Health System, Warren, MI
Family Medicine/Emergency Medicine
1
PCOM/Aria Health, Philadelphia, PA
Transitional Year
9
West UCOM Riverside County Regional, Moreno Valley, CA
Altoona Regional Helath System, Altoona, PA
Firelands Regional Medical Center, Sandusky, OH
Altoona Regional Helath System, Altoona, PA
Inspira Helath, Vineland, New Jersey
Palisades Medical Center, North Bergen, NJ
Downey Regional Medical Center, Downey, CA
Good Samaritan Hospital Corvallis/GSRMC, Corvallis, OR
NYITCOM/East Health Alliance, Southampton Hospital, NY

ACGME

ANESTHESIOLOGY
8
UMASS, Worcester, Massachusetts
Mayo School of GME, Jacksonville, FL
U of WI Hospitals and Clinics, Madison, WI
U of Washington Affiliated Hospitals, Seattle, WA
University at Buffalo, SOM-NY, Buffalo, NY
U Texas Med Branch-Galveston, TX
Loyola Univ Med Ctr, Maywood, IL
U Kansas SOM, Wichita, KS
EMERGENCY MEDICINE
4
U Florida COM, Jacksonville, FL
Indiana Univ Sch Of Med, Indianapolis, IN
U Kentucky Med Ctr, Lexington, KY
Baystate Med Ctr, Springfield, MA
FAMILY MEDICINE
16
Inspira MC, Woodbury, NJ
Mayo, La Crosse,WI
East Jefferson Gen Hosp, Metairie, LA
Methodist Hospital,Houston,TX
St Anthony North Hosp, Westminster, CO
North Colorado Med Ctr, Greeley, CO
Texas A&M-Bryan/College Station, Bryan, TX
Mayo, La Crosse, WI
Phoenix Baptist Hospital, Phoenix, AZ
Fort Collins Family Med, Fort Collins, CO
St Anthony North Hosp, Westminster, CO
Fort Collins Family Med, Fort Collins, CO
Exempla St Joseph Hospital, Denver, CO
Rapid City Regional Hospital, RC, SD
Kootenai Health, Coeur D'Alene, ID
Alaska FM/Providence Hospital, Anchorage, AK
North Colorado Med Ctr, Greeley, CO
INTERNAL MEDICINE
7
Methodist Hospital, Houston, TX
Advocate Lutheran General Hospital, Park Ridge, IL
VA Medical Center, Boise, ID
St Joseph Hospital, Chicago, IL
U of Washington Affiliated Hosps, Seattle, WA
Legacy Emanuael/Good Sam, Portland, OR
Baton Rouge General MC, Baton Rouge, LA
NEUROLOGICAL SURGERY
1
University Hospitals, Columbia, MO
OB/GYN
5
UC San Francisco, Fresno, CA
Kern Medical Center, Bakersfield, CA
Akron Gen Med Ctr/NEOMED, Akron, OH
UMASS, Worcester, Massachusetts
Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, TX
PATHOLOGY
3
Penrose Hospital, Colorado Springs, CO
UVM/Fletcher Allen, Burlington, VT
Mayo School of GME, Rochester, MN
PEDIATRICS
7
Florida Hospital, Orlando, FL
Central Iowa Health System, Des Moines, IA
University of Tennessee COM, Memphis, TN
Children's Hospital, NEOMED, Akron, OH
Oregon Health & Science U, Portland, OR
Children's Mercy Hosp, UMKC, Kansas City, MO
U Florida COM, Jacksonville, FL
PSYCHIATRY
1
Universtiy of Utah, Salt Lake City, UT
RADIOLOGY
3
University of Minnesota Med School, Minneapolis, MN
Aurora St. Lukes Medical Center, Milwaukee, WI
U of MO, KC Programs, Kansas City, MO
GENERAL SURGERY
2
Exempla St. Joseph Hospital, Denver, CO
U of Texas HSC, San Antonio, TX
Northwestern, Chicago, IL
U of Tennessee, Memphis
PM&R
1
Stanford University, CA (PGY 2)
TRADITIONAL YEAR
2
Providence Sacred Heart MC, Spokane, WA
Medical Center of Columbus, Columbus, GA

tennessee and northwestern for general surgery? are those categorical?

 

[TXKnight]

what does categorical mean? going straight to pgy 1 surg, for instance?

 

[pattr]

what does categorical mean? going straight to pgy 1 surg, for instance?

it means the actual gen surg program proper (PGY1-5), not just a preliminary year (only PGY-1) match.

 

[hallowmann]

what does categorical mean? going straight to pgy 1 surg, for instance?

pattr would know better than me, but as far as I can tell a lot of places have categorical spots and well as just TRIs or pre-lim years. In the categorical program, I believe you'll still be doing the same stuff you would in a pre-lim year, but you'll be in the same program throughout the whole residency instead of moving after PGY1.

 

[Prncssbuttercup]

tennessee and northwestern for general surgery? are those categorical?

You are asking an OMSII, I have NO idea what that really even means (until Hallowmann said something) and I have no idea about any residency program in surgery... sorry

 

[hallowmann]

tennessee and northwestern for general surgery? are those categorical?

Looks categorical, but I didn't check the ACGME website, just these:
http://gsm.utmck.edu/surgery/curriculum.cfm (might just be categorical, no mention of non-categorical spots)
http://mcgaw.northwestern.edu/prospective-residents/residency-programs/general-surgery (has 5 categorical and 10 pre-lim spots, this one is harder to tell)

 

[TXKnight]

So is it "easier" to land a categorical spot than a prelim?

 

[JeetKuneDo]

So is it "easier" to land a categorical spot than a prelim?

Nah, it's the other way around.

 

[BestDoctorEver]

Any ACGME Neurosurgery, Ortho, Plastic, ENT or Rad Onc match is pretty "earth shattering" in my opinion, these were the most competitive specialties this year according to NRMP with >90% US grad Matches.

Also, someone was able match ACGME neurosurgery in California, that's pretty amazing considering there are only a handful of spots in the entire state. I couldn't even land anesthesia in CA. The gen surgery match at Northwestern is pretty groundbreaking as well. I think people underestimate how difficult it is to break into any surgical field as a DO. It's one of there reasons why I abandoned surgery. Kudos to those who kept going and matched

I remember seeing somewhere in SDN that is not difficult match into general surgery as a DO.

 

[james2333]

I remember seeing somewhere in SDN that is not difficult match into general surgery as a DO.

No there is still a lot of stigma against DOs from my experience, especially in surgery (even gen surge). There are plenty of spots available but you better be a stellar applicant

 

[BestDoctorEver]

No there is still a lot of stigma against DOs from my experience, especially in surgery (even gen surge). There are plenty of spots available but you better be a stellar applicant

Ok... Not interested in any surgical specialties anyway... I guess my life will be so much easier when it is time to apply for residency since I am interested in FM/IM/Psychiatry

 

[Dr. Zombie]

Ok... Not interested in any surgical specialties anyway... I guess my life will be so much easier when it is time to apply for residency since I am interested in FM/IM/Psychiatry

That's how I felt when I decided that more than likely, based on my current career goals, I'll be going for IM.

 

[BestDoctorEver]

That's how I felt when I decided to go for IM lol.

Aren't you starting med school this year?

 

[Dr. Zombie]

Aren't you starting med school this year?

You're right it's worded kind of funny. I reworded it.

 

[DrEnderW]

I remember seeing somewhere in SDN that is not difficult match into general surgery as a DO.

The key would missing is "relatively."

It's relatively easier to match ACGME GS as a DO than the surg sub-specialties. It's relatively easier to match AOA GS because there are more spots. ACGME surg is still very competitive for DOs but is way more realistic than the handful of sub-specialty matches. AOA GS is not the most competitive but by no means considered an easy match, especially if you want a certain location.

 

[BestDoctorEver]

The key would missing is "relatively."

It's relatively easier to match ACGME GS as a DO than the surg sub-specialties. It's relatively easier to match AOA GS because there are more spots. ACGME surg is still very competitive for DOs but is way more realistic than the handful of sub-specialty matches. AOA GS is not the most competitive but by no means considered an easy match, especially if you want a certain location.

Got it!

 

[CCHero]

Any idea of TCOM match list?

 

[DocEspana]

For those who are curious on preliminary vs categorical here is a (very) quick primer

'Categorical' is a term used only when a program only has preliminary spots as well. Categorical might as well be called 'normal,' because it is exactly what youd expect the residency to be. Categorical is used (thus prelim is used) mainly in IM and general surgery. You will see it here and there for ObGyn and very very rarely for other fields.

'Prelim' might as well be called 'indentured servant', but not all are made equally. My school *begged* us not to take preliminary years. They gave us lecture after lecture whenever we even contemplated taking a preliminary year. They referred to them as the worse mistakes you could make, and stated they equated to throwing a year away when transitional years, TRIs, and research years existed. They were mostly right. But there are some large caveats.

1) Preliminary years in medicine or surgery are *required* by handful of fields. Anesthesia, PM&R, Neurology, Radiology, etc. While you can do transitional years or TRIs (depending on the programs rules), they are generally harder to get because people want these cushier 'elective heavy' years. So a lot of people are forced into prelim medicine and surgery. But if its a stepping stone to your PGY-2 Residency nothing matters, its all good.

2) Due to a decent amount of attrition in medicine, medicine prelims do get PGY-2 categorical spots in their own program at a decent rate. You'll be competing with many of your fellow prelim medicine residents for that spot should it open up... and ive heard horror stories of the backstabbing competitiveness... but it is definitely common knowledge that prelim medicine people can end up being adopted by their own program. The caveat of this caveat is that non-home medicine programs dont like to take you as a PGY-2 even if you did do your prelim year. They just dont like giving you only two years of training. The number of prelims from my home hospital who discovered this to be the case pretty much across the country was shocking. I knew this as a med student, and they signed up for a residency without knowing that is the rule and those who strike it lucky with a PGY-2 are the exceptions.

3) Prelim medicine is a more painful way to do what others do with a TRI or a Transitional year (use it to bolster your CV and re-apply to a wholly different field) but a legit way if you are aware that youre gonna be going to another field.

4) Prelim surgery is basically a trap. I might be overstating it a bit, but prelim surgery is a cruel cruel joke the ACGME plays on people who want to be surgeons (though required for people who want to be anesthesiologists). I have heard *dismal* things about the odds of getting a categorial spot from all but the most elite of places. What makes it worse is that places like Harvard and Yale have TONS of surgical prelims (I work with one) that they train and then throw off to flood the PGY-2 market. These guys are *actually* going to get the PGY-2 spots, not the hundreds upon hundreds doing it at non-elite, or mid-level (or lower 🙁 ) ACGME hospitals. Its even so bad that there is an entire PGY-2 prelim system in surgery for people who still have no programs and havent figured it out that surgery is not as bright and sunny as medicine is for its prelims. Obviously there are success stories, but surgery is a field where pedigree is everything, and its hard to compete with Ivy league prelims who leave after doing an intern year and B&W, AND a research year (oh yea... harvards prelim program is two years. year 2 is a research year. This is not uncommon at the super-top-teir surgical programs)

5) I dont know a lot about OBGYN prelims, but it is a small market for peole who really want OBGYN but dont care somuch about where they go. You basically are looking to fill the holes any other program has if someone burns out or switches fields.

Spark notes: IM prelim is hard, and exceptionally cutthroat (at times) but can be used as a year to buff up your CV.
Surgical prelim, unless your using it to show a non-surgical program in the future that you are good with your hands, can best be described thusly:

 

[TChapmanwvu1]

WOW....reading RVUCOM is encouraging..... Surprised there is not a bigger buzz about that list. Pretty impressive

 

[Elisabeth Kate]

Some specialties, like Derm, Neurology, PM&R, and Anesthesiology can only be matched as pgy-2. Applicants are required to have done pgy-1 separately.

This is true for derm. I don't know about anesthesia. For PMR and neuro, you can apply for all four years, but you have to do a PGY1 year separately. You just don't have to wait until the PGY1 year to apply, unlike derm.

 

[TXKnight]

Thanks doc espana for that review.

Now, I'm a bit surprised about anes and the fact you don't go categorical. In that case, is it pretty hard to match into anesthesia after a prelim? It seems (from my unexperienced eye) that doing a prelim is pretty risky businesses.

 

[WonderBoy]

TouroCOM-Harlem 2014 Match List Not 100% complete

Maimonides - Anesthesiology
Icahn SOM St Lukes-Roosevelt-NY Anesthesiology NEW YORK NY
Rush University Anesthesiology IL
Maimonides Anesthesiology NY
St. Joseph's Regional Med Anesthesiology NJ
Jackson Memorial Hospital Anesthesiology Miami FL
Thomas Jefferson Univ Anesthesiology Philadelphia PA

St. John's Episcopal Dermatology Far Rockaway NY

BROOKHAVEN MEMORIAL HOSP Diagnostic Radiology Patchogue NJ

ROWANSOM/INSPIRA HEALTH NETWORK Emergency Medicine Vineland NJ
NYITCOM/NEWARK BI/ST BARNABAS Emergency Medicine Newark NJ
Staten Island Univ Hosp-NY Emergency Medicine STATEN ISLAND NY
ST BARNABAS HOSPITAL Emergency Medicine Bronx NY
NYITCOM/NEWARK BI/ST BARNABAS Emergency Medicine Newark NJ
GARDEN CITY HOSPITAL OSTEOPATHIC Emergency Medicine Garden City MI
Albert Einstein Med Ctr-PA Emergency Medicine PHILADELPHIA PA
Baystate Med Ctr-MA Emergency Medicine SPRINGFIELD MA
ST BARNABAS HOSPITAL Emergency Medicine Bronx NY
WRIGHT CENTER Family Medicine SCRANTON PA

MSUCOM/ALLEGIANCE HEALTH Family Medicine Jackson MI
NYITCOM/PLAINVIEW HOSPITAL Family Medicine Plainview NY
UNECOM/MAINE-DARTMOUTH FM RES Family Medicine Augusta ME
East Liverpool City Hospital Family Medicine Liverpool OH
Palisades Medical Center Family Medicine NJ
Northridge Hosp Med Ctr-CA Family Medicine NORTHRIDGE CA
NSUCOM/PALMETTO GENERAL HOSPITAL Family Medicine Hialeah FL
NYITCOM/PLAINVIEW HOSPITAL Family Medicine Plainview NY
NYITCOM/NASSAU UNIV MEDICAL CTR Family Medicine East Meadow NY
Guthrie/Robert Family Medicine PA
BROOKHAVEN MEMORIAL HOSP Family Medicine Patchogue NY

MCLAREN-OAKLAND Family Medicine - Emergency Medicine Pontiac MI

PALISADES MEDICAL CENTER General Surgery North Bergen NJ
PCOM/PHILADELPHIA CONSORTIUM General Surgery Philadelphia PA
ROWANSOM/KENNEDY/LADY OF LOURDES General Surgery Stratford NJ
OAKWOOD HEALTHCARE SYSTEM General Surgery Trenton MI
PALISADES MEDICAL CENTER General Surgery North Bergen NJ
ST BARNABAS HOSPITAL General Surgery Bronx NY
PALISADES MEDICAL CENTER General Surgery North Bergen NJ

North Shore-LIJ Health Sys-NY Internal Med/Lenox Hill NEW YORK NY
Icahn SOM St Lukes-Roosevelt-NY Internal Medicine NEW YORK NY
PCOM/READING HOSPITAL & MED CTR Internal Medicine Reading PA
NYITCOM/SOUTHAMPTON HOSPITAL Internal Medicine Southampton NY
Danville Regional Medical Center Internal Medicine Danville VA
OUHCOM/ST JOHN MEDICAL CENTER Internal Medicine Westlake OH
WESTUCOMP/ARROWHEAD REG MED CTR Internal Medicine Colton CA
GENESYS REGIONAL MED-HEALTH PARK Internal Medicine Grand Blanc MI
Staten Island Univ Hosp-NY Internal Medicine STATEN ISLAND NY
NSUCOM/LARGO MEDICAL CENTER Internal Medicine Largo FL
Grandview Hospital Internal Medicine Dayton OH
Adena Health Systems Internal Medicine Chilicothe OH
NYITCOM/CONEY ISLAND HOSPITAL Internal Medicine Brooklyn NY
Baystate Med Ctr-MA Internal Medicine SPRINGFIELD MA
Wellington Regional Medical Center Internal Medicine West Palm FL
PCOM/ST LUKE'S UNIVERSITY HOSP Internal Medicine Bethlehem PA
WILSON MEMORIAL REG MED CTR Internal Medicine Johnson City NY
Scripps Mercy Hosp-San Diego-CA Internal Medicine SAN DIEGO CA
Staten Island Univ Hosp-NY Internal Medicine STATEN ISLAND NY
Staten Island Univ Hosp-NY Internal Medicine STATEN ISLAND NY
UNECOM/KENT HOSPITAL Internal Program Warwick RI

Newark Beth Israel Med Ctr-NJ Medicine-Preliminary NEWARK NJ
NYMC-Westchester Med Ctr-NY Medicine-Preliminary VALHALLA NY
Staten Island Univ Hosp-NY Medicine-Preliminary STATEN ISLAND NY
NYMC-Westchester Med Ctr-NY Medicine-Preliminary VALHALLA NY
Jersey Shore Univ Med Ctr-NJ Medicine-Preliminary NEPTUNE NJ
Yale-New Haven Hosp-CT Medicine-Preliminary NEW HAVEN CT
Woodhull Med Ctr-NY Medicine-Primary BROOKLYN NY

NSUCOM/LARKIN COMMUNITY HOSPITAL Neurology

ST BARNABAS HOSPITAL NEUROMUSCULOSKELETAL MED-OMT Bronx NY
ST BARNABAS HOSPITAL NEUROMUSCULOSKELETAL MED-OMT Bronx NY

NYITCOM/GOOD SAMARITAN HOSP&MED Obstetrics & Gyecology West Islip NY
INOVA Fairfax Hospital-VA Obstetrics and Gynecology FALLS CHURCH VA
Abington Mem Hosp-PA Obstetrics-Gynecology ABINGTON PA
York Hospital-PA Obstetrics-Gynecology YORK PA

MEADOWLANDS HOSPITAL MEDICAL Orthopedic Surgery Secaucus NJ
PCOM/PHILADELPHIA CONSORTIUM ORTHOPEDIC SURGERY Philadelphia PA

NYU School Of Medicine Pathology NEW YORK NY
St. Luke's Roosevelt Pathology New York NY

NYITCOM/GOOD SAMARITAN HOSP&MED Pediatrics West Islip NY
U South Florida COM-Tampa Pediatrics TAMPA FL
NYITCOM/MAIMONIDES MEDICAL CTR Pediatrics Brooklyn NY
NYITCOM/NEWARK BI/ST BARNABAS Pediatrics Newark NJ
NYMC-Westchester Med Ctr-NY Pediatrics VALHALLA NY
HENRY FORD MACOMB HOSPITALS MEP Pediatrics Clinton Township MI
University of Toledo-OH Pediatrics TOLEDO OH
NYMC-Westchester Med Ctr-NY Pediatrics VALHALLA NY
PALM BEACH CONSORTIUM FOR GME Pediatrics West Palm Beach FL
Atlantic Health Sys-NJ Pediatrics MORRISTOWN NJ
NYITCOM/WYCKOFF HEIGHTS MED CTR Pediatrics Brooklyn NY
NYITCOM/WYCKOFF HEIGHTS MED CTR Pediatrics Brooklyn NY
North Shore-LIJ Health Sys-NY Pediatrics GREAT NECK NY
Staten Island Univ Hosp-NY Pediatrics STATEN ISLAND NY
U Cincinnati Med Ctr-OH Pediatrics-PM&R CINCINNATI OH

NYU PMR New York NY
NYU PMR New York NY
NSUCOM/LARKIN COMMUNITY HOSPITAL PMR South Miami FL
Rutgers PMR NJ

Trinitas Regional Medical Center Psychiatry Elizabeth NJ
Maimonides Med Ctr-NY Psychiatry BROOKLYN NY
Trinitas Regional Medical Center Psychiatry Elizabeth NJ
Georgetown Univ Hosp-DC Psychiatry WASHINGTON DC
U Rochester/Strong Mem-NY Psychiatry ROCHESTER NY
Community Health of South Florida Psychiatry FL
North Shore-LIJ Health Sys-NY Psychiatry GREAT NECK NY
LSUHSC-Shreveport-LA Psychiatry SHREVEPORT LA
Icahn SOM St Lukes-Roosevelt-NY Psychiatry NEW YORK NY

Einstein/Montefiore Med Ctr-NY Surgery-Preliminary NY
Stony Brook Teach Hosps-NY Surgery-Preliminary STONY BROOK NY

Lemuel Shattuck Hosp-MA Transitional BOSTON MA

South Nassau Family Medicine TRI South Nassau NY
PALISADES MEDICAL CENTER TRI North Bergen NJ
Coney Island Hospital TRI Coney Island NY
St. John's Episcopal TRI Far Rockaway NY
ST BARNABAS HOSPITAL TRI Bronx NY
Case Western Reserve Hospital TRI Richmond Heights OH

ROWANSOM/KENNEDY/LADY OF LOURDES TRI Stratford NJ
NAVAL HOSPITAL (BETHESDA) Bethesda MD
MADIGAN ARMY MED CTR (FT LEWIS) Tacoma WA
WALTER REED ARMY MEDICAL CENTER Washington DC

 

[a runner]

Just a caveat about the prelim year vs. categorical discussion. Most (2/3) of anesthesiology spots are categorical (PGY-1 through PGY-4) now so no prelim/transitional year is required because you do your intern year at your program. And even some of the radiology spots (PGY-1 through PGY-5) are categorical.

 

[a runner]

Thanks doc espana for that review.

Now, I'm a bit surprised about anes and the fact you don't go categorical. In that case, is it pretty hard to match into anesthesia after a prelim? It seems (from my unexperienced eye) that doing a prelim is pretty risky businesses.

If you apply to a residency that requires a prelim year, you apply to both a prelim year (PGY-1) and your residency (PGY-2) at the same time and match both at the same time. If you match a PGY-2 spot in neurology, anesthesiology, radiology, etc., then you need to also match a prelim year (unless you get a categorical spot). There are some people who only match a prelim/TRI/TY in which case they would be applying for the next year as a physician applicant, which some specialties have reserved spots for these applicants. Look at the NRMP data from this year, they are denoted as *R positions.

 

[TXKnight]

Just a caveat about the prelim year vs. categorical discussion. Most (2/3) of anesthesiology spots are categorical (PGY-1 through PGY-4) now so no prelim/transitional year is required because you do your intern year at your program. And even some of the radiology spots (PGY-1 through PGY-5) are categorical.

If you apply to a residency that requires a prelim year, you apply to both a prelim year (PGY-1) and your residency (PGY-2) at the same time and match both at the same time. If you match a PGY-2 spot in neurology, anesthesiology, radiology, etc., then you need to also match a prelim year (unless you get a categorical spot). There are some people who only match a prelim/TRI/TY in which case they would be applying for the next year as a physician applicant, which some specialties have reserved spots for these applicants. Look at the NRMP data from this year, they are denoted as *R positions.

Thank you a runner, this further clarifies things a whole lot

 

[DocEspana]

TouroCOM-Harlem 2014 Match List Not 100% complete

Maimonides - Anesthesiology
Icahn SOM St Lukes-Roosevelt-oNY Anesthesiology NEW YORK NY
Rush University Anesthesiology IL
Maimonides Anesthesiology NY
St. Joseph's Regional Med Anesthesiology NJ
Jackson Memorial Hospital Anesthesiology Miami FL
Thomas Jefferson Univ Anesthesiology Philadelphia PA

St. John's Episcopal Dermatology Far Rockaway NY

BROOKHAVEN MEMORIAL HOSP Diagnostic Radiology Patchogue NJ

ROWANSOM/INSPIRA HEALTH NETWORK Emergency Medicine Vineland NJ
NYITCOM/NEWARK BI/ST BARNABAS Emergency Medicine Newark NJ
Staten Island Univ Hosp-NY Emergency Medicine STATEN ISLAND NY
ST BARNABAS HOSPITAL Emergency Medicine Bronx NY
NYITCOM/NEWARK BI/ST BARNABAS Emergency Medicine Newark NJ
GARDEN CITY HOSPITAL OSTEOPATHIC Emergency Medicine Garden City MI
Albert Einstein Med Ctr-PA Emergency Medicine PHILADELPHIA PA
Baystate Med Ctr-MA Emergency Medicine SPRINGFIELD MA
ST BARNABAS HOSPITAL Emergency Medicine Bronx NY
WRIGHT CENTER Family Medicine SCRANTON PA

MSUCOM/ALLEGIANCE HEALTH Family Medicine Jackson MI
NYITCOM/PLAINVIEW HOSPITAL Family Medicine Plainview NY
UNECOM/MAINE-DARTMOUTH FM RES Family Medicine Augusta ME
East Liverpool City Hospital Family Medicine Liverpool OH
Palisades Medical Center Family Medicine NJ
Northridge Hosp Med Ctr-CA Family Medicine NORTHRIDGE CA
NSUCOM/PALMETTO GENERAL HOSPITAL Family Medicine Hialeah FL
NYITCOM/PLAINVIEW HOSPITAL Family Medicine Plainview NY
NYITCOM/NASSAU UNIV MEDICAL CTR Family Medicine East Meadow NY
Guthrie/Robert Family Medicine PA
BROOKHAVEN MEMORIAL HOSP Family Medicine Patchogue NY

MCLAREN-OAKLAND Family Medicine - Emergency Medicine Pontiac MI

PALISADES MEDICAL CENTER General Surgery North Bergen NJ
PCOM/PHILADELPHIA CONSORTIUM General Surgery Philadelphia PA
ROWANSOM/KENNEDY/LADY OF LOURDES General Surgery Stratford NJ
OAKWOOD HEALTHCARE SYSTEM General Surgery Trenton MI
PALISADES MEDICAL CENTER General Surgery North Bergen NJ
ST BARNABAS HOSPITAL General Surgery Bronx NY
PALISADES MEDICAL CENTER General Surgery North Bergen NJ

North Shore-LIJ Health Sys-NY Internal Med/Lenox Hill NEW YORK NY
Icahn SOM St Lukes-Roosevelt-NY Internal Medicine NEW YORK NY
PCOM/READING HOSPITAL & MED CTR Internal Medicine Reading PA
NYITCOM/SOUTHAMPTON HOSPITAL Internal Medicine Southampton NY
Danville Regional Medical Center Internal Medicine Danville VA
OUHCOM/ST JOHN MEDICAL CENTER Internal Medicine Westlake OH
WESTUCOMP/ARROWHEAD REG MED CTR Internal Medicine Colton CA
GENESYS REGIONAL MED-HEALTH PARK Internal Medicine Grand Blanc MI
Staten Island Univ Hosp-NY Internal Medicine STATEN ISLAND NY
NSUCOM/LARGO MEDICAL CENTER Internal Medicine Largo FL
Grandview Hospital Internal Medicine Dayton OH
Adena Health Systems Internal Medicine Chilicothe OH
NYITCOM/CONEY ISLAND HOSPITAL Internal Medicine Brooklyn NY
Baystate Med Ctr-MA Internal Medicine SPRINGFIELD MA
Wellington Regional Medical Center Internal Medicine West Palm FL
PCOM/ST LUKE'S UNIVERSITY HOSP Internal Medicine Bethlehem PA
WILSON MEMORIAL REG MED CTR Internal Medicine Johnson City NY
Scripps Mercy Hosp-San Diego-CA Internal Medicine SAN DIEGO CA
Staten Island Univ Hosp-NY Internal Medicine STATEN ISLAND NY
Staten Island Univ Hosp-NY Internal Medicine STATEN ISLAND NY
UNECOM/KENT HOSPITAL Internal Program Warwick RI

Newark Beth Israel Med Ctr-NJ Medicine-Preliminary NEWARK NJ
NYMC-Westchester Med Ctr-NY Medicine-Preliminary VALHALLA NY
Staten Island Univ Hosp-NY Medicine-Preliminary STATEN ISLAND NY
NYMC-Westchester Med Ctr-NY Medicine-Preliminary VALHALLA NY
Jersey Shore Univ Med Ctr-NJ Medicine-Preliminary NEPTUNE NJ
Yale-New Haven Hosp-CT Medicine-Preliminary NEW HAVEN CT
Woodhull Med Ctr-NY Medicine-Primary BROOKLYN NY

NSUCOM/LARKIN COMMUNITY HOSPITAL Neurology

ST BARNABAS HOSPITAL NEUROMUSCULOSKELETAL MED-OMT Bronx NY
ST BARNABAS HOSPITAL NEUROMUSCULOSKELETAL MED-OMT Bronx NY

NYITCOM/GOOD SAMARITAN HOSP&MED Obstetrics & Gyecology West Islip NY
INOVA Fairfax Hospital-VA Obstetrics and Gynecology FALLS CHURCH VA
Abington Mem Hosp-PA Obstetrics-Gynecology ABINGTON PA
York Hospital-PA Obstetrics-Gynecology YORK PA

MEADOWLANDS HOSPITAL MEDICAL Orthopedic Surgery Secaucus NJ
PCOM/PHILADELPHIA CONSORTIUM ORTHOPEDIC SURGERY Philadelphia PA

NYU School Of Medicine Pathology NEW YORK NY
St. Luke's Roosevelt Pathology New York NY

NYITCOM/GOOD SAMARITAN HOSP&MED Pediatrics West Islip NY
U South Florida COM-Tampa Pediatrics TAMPA FL
NYITCOM/MAIMONIDES MEDICAL CTR Pediatrics Brooklyn NY
NYITCOM/NEWARK BI/ST BARNABAS Pediatrics Newark NJ
NYMC-Westchester Med Ctr-NY Pediatrics VALHALLA NY
HENRY FORD MACOMB HOSPITALS MEP Pediatrics Clinton Township MI
University of Toledo-OH Pediatrics TOLEDO OH
NYMC-Westchester Med Ctr-NY Pediatrics VALHALLA NY
PALM BEACH CONSORTIUM FOR GME Pediatrics West Palm Beach FL
Atlantic Health Sys-NJ Pediatrics MORRISTOWN NJ
NYITCOM/WYCKOFF HEIGHTS MED CTR Pediatrics Brooklyn NY
NYITCOM/WYCKOFF HEIGHTS MED CTR Pediatrics Brooklyn NY
North Shore-LIJ Health Sys-NY Pediatrics GREAT NECK NY
Staten Island Univ Hosp-NY Pediatrics STATEN ISLAND NY
U Cincinnati Med Ctr-OH Pediatrics-PM&R CINCINNATI OH

NYU PMR New York NY
NYU PMR New York NY
NSUCOM/LARKIN COMMUNITY HOSPITAL PMR South Miami FL
Rutgers PMR NJ

Trinitas Regional Medical Center Psychiatry Elizabeth NJ
Maimonides Med Ctr-NY Psychiatry BROOKLYN NY
Trinitas Regional Medical Center Psychiatry Elizabeth NJ
Georgetown Univ Hosp-DC Psychiatry WASHINGTON DC
U Rochester/Strong Mem-NY Psychiatry ROCHESTER NY
Community Health of South Florida Psychiatry FL
North Shore-LIJ Health Sys-NY Psychiatry GREAT NECK NY
LSUHSC-Shreveport-LA Psychiatry SHREVEPORT LA
Icahn SOM St Lukes-Roosevelt-NY Psychiatry NEW YORK NY

Einstein/Montefiore Med Ctr-NY Surgery-Preliminary NY
Stony Brook Teach Hosps-NY Surgery-Preliminary STONY BROOK NY

Lemuel Shattuck Hosp-MA Transitional BOSTON MA

South Nassau Family Medicine TRI South Nassau NY
PALISADES MEDICAL CENTER TRI North Bergen NJ
Coney Island Hospital TRI Coney Island NY
St. John's Episcopal TRI Far Rockaway NY
ST BARNABAS HOSPITAL TRI Bronx NY
Case Western Reserve Hospital TRI Richmond Heights OH

ROWANSOM/KENNEDY/LADY OF LOURDES TRI Stratford NJ
NAVAL HOSPITAL (BETHESDA) Bethesda MD
MADIGAN ARMY MED CTR (FT LEWIS) Tacoma WA
WALTER REED ARMY MEDICAL CENTER Washington DC

I can add to that list a few others due to some being left off for whatever reason

Jefferson. Philadelphia PA - radiation oncology
University of Florida, Gainsville FL - pediatric neurology
Metropolitan Hospital Center, NY NY - Emergency Medicine
Jefferson, Philadelphia PA - something that I forget at the moment
Harlem Hospital, NY NY - ObGyn
Mt Sinai, NY NY - ObGyn
UConn, Someplace CT - Anesthesia
University of South Carolina - pediatrics

 

[Poliscidoc]

Also, can you confirm or deny the rumor I heard about an ACGME derm match for ga-pcom

Someone did match Derm but I am unsure of where and (Hearsay incoming) yesterday I heard it was Johns Hokpins derm and I laughed but then I realized the person wasn't kidding- so who knows?

 

[Futrdoc89]

Just curious - So starting next year all matches will be ACGME? or does that take place in 2020?

 

[DocEspana]

Just curious - So starting next year all matches will be ACGME? or does that take place in 2020?

Starting next year you can colloquially say all matches are acgme. Youd be "more or less" right. And that matters bevause its not worth running through every caveat every time you say it. We can all agree its close enough.

But the reality is a bit more nuanced. The reality is that the AOA programs must apply for acgme accreditation. Likely most all will, but some will hold off for a bit or never do it. There is no good reason to not do it (they get auto accepted until 2020). And then there is the fact that they don't intend to have only one match for a few years, so acgme and aoa will still exist in a certain way, as there will still be two matches in the immediate future. That's contract based and I guess we just have to wait out the contracts with the matching company.

 

[Elisabeth Kate]

If you apply to a residency that requires a prelim year, you apply to both a prelim year (PGY-1) and your residency (PGY-2) at the same time and match both at the same time. If you match a PGY-2 spot in neurology, anesthesiology, radiology, etc., then you need to also match a prelim year (unless you get a categorical spot). There are some people who only match a prelim/TRI/TY in which case they would be applying for the next year as a physician applicant, which some specialties have reserved spots for these applicants. Look at the NRMP data from this year, they are denoted as *R positions.

A couple of classmates who are going for derm on the AOA side said that for derm, you match TRI year, THEN apply derm during intern year. On the ACGME side, you apply for all 4 years and do a prelim/transitional year.

 

[DrEnderW]

Starting next year you can colloquially say all matches are acgme. Youd be "more or less" right. And that matters bevause its not worth running through every caveat every time you say it. We can all agree its close enough.

But the reality is a bit more nuanced. The reality is that the AOA programs must apply for acgme accreditation. Likely most all will, but some will hold off for a bit or never do it. There is no good reason to not do it (they get auto accepted until 2020). And then there is the fact that they don't intend to have only one match for a few years, so acgme and aoa will still exist in a certain way, as there will still be two matches in the immediate future. That's contract based and I guess we just have to wait out the contracts with the matching company.

This is well worded. I've been trying to explain this to my colleagues at school. This process isn't going to be instantaneous change with an imminent single match by any means.

Nice to have you back and posting again Doc.

 

[user3]

This is well worded. I've been trying to explain this to my colleagues at school. This process isn't going to be instantaneous change with an imminent single match by any means.

Nice to have you back and posting again Doc.

As individual AOA programs become ACGME accredited on their own timelines, would these programs then immediately move to NRMP? with gradually more and more over the years until everything is completely acgme by 2020? I have seen some people speculate that it may work like this.

Or, will these newly "osteopathic-focused" ACGME programs simply exist like current dual-accred. programs in the AOA/NMS match until the 2020 deadline?

 

[DocEspana]

A couple of classmates who are going for derm on the AOA side said that for derm, you match TRI year, THEN apply derm during intern year. On the ACGME side, you apply for all 4 years and do a prelim/transitional year.

I think there are like 30 derm programs and what I am about to say is n=2. So understand Im saying this with only knowing two programs. It does appear that the AOA programs do not *really* do TRI and then derm. They appear to all pre-select their derm people and interview them as such and then basically tell them that they are short-listed for next year. One program in specific makes you do an entire FM residency first and then you go into derm, but they interview their people for derm (not for FM) and the ones they want are told to rank the FM program. So far no one has ever been "cheated" by the program. and the other one I know does the same thing with the TRI.

Now I have no clue about the other 28.

 

[DocEspana]

As individual AOA programs become ACGME accredited on their own timelines, would these programs then immediately move to NRMP? with gradually more and more over the years until everything is completely acgme by 2020? I have seen some people speculate that it may work like this.

Or, will these newly "osteopathic-focused" ACGME programs simply exist like current dual-accred. programs in the AOA/NMS match until the 2020 deadline?

No. All of the current AOA programs, wether they apply for ACGME or not (and again, idk why they wouldnt, but some wont) are contracted with the NMS. NMS and NRMP are companies. They have long term contracts with the AOA and ACGME respectively. Switching accreditation wont break the contract and the programs/AOA are in no hurry to pay off the huge buyout sum that is probably built into the contract for early termination.

They'll exist in the NMS timeline until the contracts expire. No one here has any clue when that is, but the AOA has intimated its not any time soon.

 

[Superman DO]

KCOM Match List (not 100%)

Anesthesiology Des Peres HospitalSt. Louis, MO
Anesthesiology Northeast Regional Medical CenterKirksville, MO
Anesthesiology St. Louis UniversitySt. Louis, MO
Anesthesiology Washington UniversitySt. Louis, MO
Anesthesiology St. Louis UniversitySt. Louis, MO
Anesthesiology St. Louis UniversitySt. Louis, MO
Anesthesiology University of KentuckyLexington, KY
Anesthesiology Albany Medical CenterAlbany, NY
Emergency MedicineMadigan Army Medical CenterTacoma, WA
Emergency Medicine Darnall Army Medical CenterKilleen TX
Emergency MedicineAffinity Medical CenterMassillon, OH
Emergency MedicineAdena HealthChillicothe, OH
Emergency MedicineAdena HealthChillicothe, OH
Emergency MedicineKingman Regional Med CtrKingman, AZ
Emergency MedicineDoctors HospitalColumbus, OH
Emergency MedicineMercy MemorialMonroe, MI
Emergency MedicineMount Sinai Miami, FL
Emergency MedicineComanche County MemorialLawton, OK
Emergency MedicineMercy St. Vincent's Medical Center Toledo, OH
Emergency MedicineUniversity of Missouri--Kansas CityKansas City, MO
Emergency MedicineUniversity of Illinois, OSF PeoriaPeoria, IL
Emergency MedicineIndiana UniversityIndianapolis, IN
Emergency MedicineWestern Michigan UniversityKalamazoo, MI
Emergency MedicineWestern Michigan UniversityKalamazoo, Mi
ENTSumma Western Reserve Cuyahoga Falls, OH
ENTDetroit Medical CenterDetroit, MI
ENTNortheast Regional Medical CenterKirksville, MO
Family MedicineNaval Medical Center Camp LejeuneJacksonville, NC
Family MedicineNaval Hospital PensacolaPensacola, FL
Family MedicineDes Peres HospitalSt. Louis, MO
Family MedicineAdvocate BromennNormal, IL
Family MedicineGrandview Medical CenterDayton, OH
Family MedicineUniversity Hospitals RichmondCleveland, OH
Family MedicineLewisGale Hospital Montgomery/VCOMBlacksburg, VA
FM/NMMTexas OPTI UNTHSC-TCOM/Plaza Medical CenterFort Worth,TX
Family MedicinePromedica Toledo HospitalToledo, OH
Family MedicineCapital Region Medical CenterJefferson City, MO
Family MedicinePCOM/Williamsport HospitalWilliamsport, PA
Family MedicineGarden City HospitalGarden City, MI
Family MedicineWilliam Beaumont Troy, MITroy,MI
Family MedicineFort Wayne Medical Education ProgramFt. Wayne, IN
Family MedicineUniversity of Wisconsin - UW Health Eau ClaireEau Claire, WI
Family MedicineCox Medical CenterSpringfield, MO
Family MedicineRapid City Regional HospitalRapid City, SD
Family MedicineSioux Falls Family Medicine ResidencySioux Falls, SD
Family MedicineNorth Colorado Family Medicine Rural TrackGreeley and Wray, CO
Family MedicineMercy HospitalSt. Louis, MO
Family MedicineBanner Good Samaritan Phoenix, AZ
Family MedicineBanner Good Samaritan Phoenix, AZ
Family MedicineAlaska Family MedicineAnchorage, AK
Family MedicineUICOM-PeoriaPeoria, IL
Family MedicineMercy Hospital - St. LouisSt. Louis, MO
Family MedicineSIU Quincy Family MedicineQuincy, IL
Family MedicineRapid City Regional HospitalRapid City, SD
Family MedicineUtah Valley Regional Medical CenterProvo, UT
Family MedicineRose Medical CenterDenver, CO
General SurgeryOklahoma State University Medical CenterTulsa, OK
General SurgeryDes Peres Hospital St. Louis, MO
General SurgeryNortheast Regional Medical CenterKirksville, MO
General SurgeryPinnacle Health-HarrisburgHarrisburg, PA
General SurgerySt. Mary's/KCUMBBlue Springs, MO
General SurgeryYork MemorialYork, PA
General SurgeryUIC Mount SinaiChicago, IL
Internal MedicineWright-Patterson AFBDayton, OH
Internal MedicineNaval Medical Center- PortsmouthPortsmouth, VA
Internal MedicineSaint Michael's Medical CenterNewark, NJ
Internal MedicineConemaugh Valley Memorial HospitalJohnstown, PA
Internal MedicineUniversity Hospitals RichmondCleveland, OH
Internal MedicineFreeman Health SystemJoplin, MO
Internal MedicinePCOM/Geisinger Medical CenterDanville, PA
Internal MedicineMercy Medical CenterDes Moines, IA
Internal MedicineCorpus Christi Medical CenterCorpus Christi, TX
Internal MedicineLake Cumberland Regional Medical CenterSomerset, KY
Internal MedicineSkagit Valley HospitalMount Vernon, WA
Internal MedicineSan Antonio Military Medical CenterSan Antonio, TX
Internal MedicineUniversity of Missouri-ColumbiaColumbia, MO
Internal MedicineUniversity of Missouri-ColumbiaColumbia, MO
Internal MedicineSumma Health SystemAkron, OH
Internal MedicineUniversity of ArizonaTucson, AZ
Internal MedicineSt. Mary's Health CenterSt. Louis, MO
Internal MedicineUniversity of Missouri-ColumbiaColumbia, MO
Internal MedicineLegacy Emanuel/Good SamaritanPortland, OR
Internal MedicineCleveland Clinic FoundationCleveland, OH
Internal MedicineUniversity of Massachusetts Worcester, MA
Internal MedicineUniversity of KansasKansas City, KS
Internal MedicineUniversity of South AlabamaMobile, AL
Internal MedicineLoma Linda UniversityLoma linda, CA
Internal MedicineGundersen Health SystemLa Crosse, WI
Internal MedicineMercy HospitalSt. Louis, MO
Internal MedicineBanner Good Samaritan (University of Arizona)Phoenix, AZ
Internal MedicineUniversity of Iowa Hospitals and ClinicsIowa City, IA
Med/PedsUniversity of Missouri-ColumbiaColumbia, MO
Med/PedsNewark Beth Israel Newark, NJ
NMM/OMM
Neurological SurgeryAdvocate BromennNormal, IL
Neurology University of MinnesotaMinneapolis, MN
OB/GynRowan University 🙂Stratford, NJ
OB/GynMWU/OPTI ResurrectionChicago, IL
OB/GynSt. John's Providence MacombWarren, MI
OB/GynHenry Ford Wyandotte Wyandotte, MI
Ophthalmology
OrthopedicsSt. Mary's HospitalBlue Springs, MO
OrthopedicsDes Peres HospitalSt. Louis, MO
OrthopedicsMercy St. Vincent's Medical CenterToledo, OH
OrthopedicsSt. Anthony HospitalOklahoma City, OK
OrthopedicsValley Regional Medical CenterLas Vegas, NV
OrthopedicsGarden City HospitalGarden City, MI
Pathology University of IowaIowa City
PediatricsMadigan Army Medical CenterTacoma, WA
PediatricsSan Antonio Military Medical CenterSan Antonio, TX
PediatricsPCOM/GeisingerDanville, PA
PediatricsPBCGME/Palms WestLoxahatchee, FL
PediatricsPBCGME/Palms WestLoxahatchee, FL
PediatricsUniversity of KentuckyLexington, KY
PediatricsUniversity of LouisvilleLouisville, KY
PediatricsAkron Childrens Hospital/ NEOMEDAkron, OH
PediatricsEast Tennessee State UniversityJohnson City, TN
PediatricsChildren's Mercy Hospital / UMKCKansas City, MO
PediatricsChildren's Hospital of Illinois/ UIC St. FrancisPeoria, IL
PM&RCase Western Reserve/MetroHealth Med CenterCleveland, OH
PM&RUniversity of WashingtonSeattle, WA
PM&RUniversity of Texas SouthwesternDallas, TX
PM&RBeaumont HospitalRoyal Oak, MI
PM&RUniversity of Missouri Columbia - Rusk Rehab CenterColumbia, MO
Preliminary Medicine
Psychiatry
RadiologyTripler Army Medical CenterHonolulu, HI
RadiologyHuron Valley-SinaiCommerce Twp, MI
RadiologySt. James HealthOlympia Fields
RadiologyMcLaren OaklandPontiac, MI
RadiologyUniversity of Southern CaliforniaLos Angeles, CA
Transitional YearSan Antonio Military Medical CenterSan Antonio, TX
Transitional YearArrowhead Regional Medical CenterColton, CA
Transitional YearManatee Memorial Medical CenterBradenton, FL
Transitional YearManatee Memorial Medical CenterBradenton, FL
Transitional YearSt John Providence HospitalSouthfield, MI
Transitional YearPeconic Bay Medical CenterRiverhead, NY
Transitional YearAdena Medical CenterChillicothe, OH

 

[DOFutureEM22]

KCOM Match List (not 100%)

Anesthesiology Des Peres HospitalSt. Louis, MO
Anesthesiology Northeast Regional Medical CenterKirksville, MO
Anesthesiology St. Louis UniversitySt. Louis, MO
Anesthesiology Washington UniversitySt. Louis, MO
Anesthesiology St. Louis UniversitySt. Louis, MO
Anesthesiology St. Louis UniversitySt. Louis, MO
Anesthesiology University of KentuckyLexington, KY
Anesthesiology Albany Medical CenterAlbany, NY
Emergency MedicineMadigan Army Medical CenterTacoma, WA
Emergency Medicine Darnall Army Medical CenterKilleen TX
Emergency MedicineAffinity Medical CenterMassillon, OH
Emergency MedicineAdena HealthChillicothe, OH
Emergency MedicineAdena HealthChillicothe, OH
Emergency MedicineKingman Regional Med CtrKingman, AZ
Emergency MedicineDoctors HospitalColumbus, OH
Emergency MedicineMercy MemorialMonroe, MI
Emergency MedicineMount Sinai Miami, FL
Emergency MedicineComanche County MemorialLawton, OK
Emergency MedicineMercy St. Vincent's Medical Center Toledo, OH
Emergency MedicineUniversity of Missouri--Kansas CityKansas City, MO
Emergency MedicineUniversity of Illinois, OSF PeoriaPeoria, IL
Emergency MedicineIndiana UniversityIndianapolis, IN
Emergency MedicineWestern Michigan UniversityKalamazoo, MI
Emergency MedicineWestern Michigan UniversityKalamazoo, Mi
ENTSumma Western Reserve Cuyahoga Falls, OH
ENTDetroit Medical CenterDetroit, MI
ENTNortheast Regional Medical CenterKirksville, MO
Family MedicineNaval Medical Center Camp LejeuneJacksonville, NC
Family MedicineNaval Hospital PensacolaPensacola, FL
Family MedicineDes Peres HospitalSt. Louis, MO
Family MedicineAdvocate BromennNormal, IL
Family MedicineGrandview Medical CenterDayton, OH
Family MedicineUniversity Hospitals RichmondCleveland, OH
Family MedicineLewisGale Hospital Montgomery/VCOMBlacksburg, VA
FM/NMMTexas OPTI UNTHSC-TCOM/Plaza Medical CenterFort Worth,TX
Family MedicinePromedica Toledo HospitalToledo, OH
Family MedicineCapital Region Medical CenterJefferson City, MO
Family MedicinePCOM/Williamsport HospitalWilliamsport, PA
Family MedicineGarden City HospitalGarden City, MI
Family MedicineWilliam Beaumont Troy, MITroy,MI
Family MedicineFort Wayne Medical Education ProgramFt. Wayne, IN
Family MedicineUniversity of Wisconsin - UW Health Eau ClaireEau Claire, WI
Family MedicineCox Medical CenterSpringfield, MO
Family MedicineRapid City Regional HospitalRapid City, SD
Family MedicineSioux Falls Family Medicine ResidencySioux Falls, SD
Family MedicineNorth Colorado Family Medicine Rural TrackGreeley and Wray, CO
Family MedicineMercy HospitalSt. Louis, MO
Family MedicineBanner Good Samaritan Phoenix, AZ
Family MedicineBanner Good Samaritan Phoenix, AZ
Family MedicineAlaska Family MedicineAnchorage, AK
Family MedicineUICOM-PeoriaPeoria, IL
Family MedicineMercy Hospital - St. LouisSt. Louis, MO
Family MedicineSIU Quincy Family MedicineQuincy, IL
Family MedicineRapid City Regional HospitalRapid City, SD
Family MedicineUtah Valley Regional Medical CenterProvo, UT
Family MedicineRose Medical CenterDenver, CO
General SurgeryOklahoma State University Medical CenterTulsa, OK
General SurgeryDes Peres Hospital St. Louis, MO
General SurgeryNortheast Regional Medical CenterKirksville, MO
General SurgeryPinnacle Health-HarrisburgHarrisburg, PA
General SurgerySt. Mary's/KCUMBBlue Springs, MO
General SurgeryYork MemorialYork, PA
General SurgeryUIC Mount SinaiChicago, IL
Internal MedicineWright-Patterson AFBDayton, OH
Internal MedicineNaval Medical Center- PortsmouthPortsmouth, VA
Internal MedicineSaint Michael's Medical CenterNewark, NJ
Internal MedicineConemaugh Valley Memorial HospitalJohnstown, PA
Internal MedicineUniversity Hospitals RichmondCleveland, OH
Internal MedicineFreeman Health SystemJoplin, MO
Internal MedicinePCOM/Geisinger Medical CenterDanville, PA
Internal MedicineMercy Medical CenterDes Moines, IA
Internal MedicineCorpus Christi Medical CenterCorpus Christi, TX
Internal MedicineLake Cumberland Regional Medical CenterSomerset, KY
Internal MedicineSkagit Valley HospitalMount Vernon, WA
Internal MedicineSan Antonio Military Medical CenterSan Antonio, TX
Internal MedicineUniversity of Missouri-ColumbiaColumbia, MO
Internal MedicineUniversity of Missouri-ColumbiaColumbia, MO
Internal MedicineSumma Health SystemAkron, OH
Internal MedicineUniversity of ArizonaTucson, AZ
Internal MedicineSt. Mary's Health CenterSt. Louis, MO
Internal MedicineUniversity of Missouri-ColumbiaColumbia, MO
Internal MedicineLegacy Emanuel/Good SamaritanPortland, OR
Internal MedicineCleveland Clinic FoundationCleveland, OH
Internal MedicineUniversity of Massachusetts Worcester, MA
Internal MedicineUniversity of KansasKansas City, KS
Internal MedicineUniversity of South AlabamaMobile, AL
Internal MedicineLoma Linda UniversityLoma linda, CA
Internal MedicineGundersen Health SystemLa Crosse, WI
Internal MedicineMercy HospitalSt. Louis, MO
Internal MedicineBanner Good Samaritan (University of Arizona)Phoenix, AZ
Internal MedicineUniversity of Iowa Hospitals and ClinicsIowa City, IA
Med/PedsUniversity of Missouri-ColumbiaColumbia, MO
Med/PedsNewark Beth Israel Newark, NJ
NMM/OMM
Neurological SurgeryAdvocate BromennNormal, IL
Neurology University of MinnesotaMinneapolis, MN
OB/GynRowan University 🙂Stratford, NJ
OB/GynMWU/OPTI ResurrectionChicago, IL
OB/GynSt. John's Providence MacombWarren, MI
OB/GynHenry Ford Wyandotte Wyandotte, MI
Ophthalmology
OrthopedicsSt. Mary's HospitalBlue Springs, MO
OrthopedicsDes Peres HospitalSt. Louis, MO
OrthopedicsMercy St. Vincent's Medical CenterToledo, OH
OrthopedicsSt. Anthony HospitalOklahoma City, OK
OrthopedicsValley Regional Medical CenterLas Vegas, NV
OrthopedicsGarden City HospitalGarden City, MI
Pathology University of IowaIowa City
PediatricsMadigan Army Medical CenterTacoma, WA
PediatricsSan Antonio Military Medical CenterSan Antonio, TX
PediatricsPCOM/GeisingerDanville, PA
PediatricsPBCGME/Palms WestLoxahatchee, FL
PediatricsPBCGME/Palms WestLoxahatchee, FL
PediatricsUniversity of KentuckyLexington, KY
PediatricsUniversity of LouisvilleLouisville, KY
PediatricsAkron Childrens Hospital/ NEOMEDAkron, OH
PediatricsEast Tennessee State UniversityJohnson City, TN
PediatricsChildren's Mercy Hospital / UMKCKansas City, MO
PediatricsChildren's Hospital of Illinois/ UIC St. FrancisPeoria, IL
PM&RCase Western Reserve/MetroHealth Med CenterCleveland, OH
PM&RUniversity of WashingtonSeattle, WA
PM&RUniversity of Texas SouthwesternDallas, TX
PM&RBeaumont HospitalRoyal Oak, MI
PM&RUniversity of Missouri Columbia - Rusk Rehab CenterColumbia, MO
Preliminary Medicine
Psychiatry
RadiologyTripler Army Medical CenterHonolulu, HI
RadiologyHuron Valley-SinaiCommerce Twp, MI
RadiologySt. James HealthOlympia Fields
RadiologyMcLaren OaklandPontiac, MI
RadiologyUniversity of Southern CaliforniaLos Angeles, CA
Transitional YearSan Antonio Military Medical CenterSan Antonio, TX
Transitional YearArrowhead Regional Medical CenterColton, CA
Transitional YearManatee Memorial Medical CenterBradenton, FL
Transitional YearManatee Memorial Medical CenterBradenton, FL
Transitional YearSt John Providence HospitalSouthfield, MI
Transitional YearPeconic Bay Medical CenterRiverhead, NY
Transitional YearAdena Medical CenterChillicothe, OH

KCOM + SOMA look strong this year. There's definetely a regional bias in match lists. Nonetheless, AT Still University is representin'

 

[user3]

No. All of the current AOA programs, wether they apply for ACGME or not (and again, idk why they wouldnt, but some wont) are contracted with the NMS. NMS and NRMP are companies. They have long term contracts with the AOA and ACGME respectively. Switching accreditation wont break the contract and the programs/AOA are in no hurry to pay off the huge buyout sum that is probably built into the contract for early termination.

They'll exist in the NMS timeline until the contracts expire. No one here has any clue when that is, but the AOA has intimated its not any time soon.

well that is too bad. thx for clearing that up though. I wonder where the newly planned ones (like CUSOM's or ACOM's) would fall into this though.

 

[DocEspana]

well that is too bad. thx for clearing that up though. I wonder where the newly planned residencies (like CUSOM's or ACOM's) would fall into this though.

most likely AOA by the nature of the AOA was in the process of creating them and they are affiliated with AOA/COCA medical schools. The contract with NMS is for all of the AOA's programs. So even though they may be ACGME from the moment they start (im assuming they dont start until next year) they werent created and guided by the ACGME guidelines. and as such they identify more as AOA and would have all the AOA-things we discussed apply to them. They'd apply for ACGME. Have until 2020 to make all the required changes. And have the NMS contract until whenever that runs out.

But this is just my guess. Thats a novel point.

 

[Superman DO]

KCOM + SOMA look strong this year. There's definetely a regional bias in match lists. Nonetheless, AT Still University is representin'

"I don't know how to put this, but [we're] kind of a big deal."

 

[DrEnderW]

As individual AOA programs become ACGME accredited on their own timelines, would these programs then immediately move to NRMP? with gradually more and more over the years until everything is completely acgme by 2020? I have seen some people speculate that it may work like this.

Or, will these newly "osteopathic-focused" ACGME programs simply exist like current dual-accred. programs in the AOA/NMS match until the 2020 deadline?

As was said above, no one knows. I am personally not expecting a combined match for my year of 2017, but that remains to be seen. I sure hope there is.

From what I speculate and understand, the transition of AOA programs to ACGME is a parallel process to having a combined match. Wish I could give you a better answer but it's anyone's educated guess at the moment.

 

[hallowmann]

most likely AOA by the nature of the AOA was in the process of creating them and they are affiliated with AOA/COCA medical schools. The contract with NMS is for all of the AOA's programs. So even though they may be ACGME from the moment they start (im assuming they dont start until next year) they werent created and guided by the ACGME guidelines. and as such they identify more as AOA and would have all the AOA-things we discussed apply to them. They'd apply for ACGME. Have until 2020 to make all the required changes. And have the NMS contract until whenever that runs out.

But this is just my guess. Thats a novel point.

At that town hall meeting, I remember hearing them mention that a lot of new programs that were getting setup might end up simply applying for ACGME accreditation as opposed to AOA accreditation, as it would be easier to start as one type of program and not have to transition in a few years. But like you said, we're all guessing at this point. Its possible they'll still become ACGME accredited with an AOA focus/certification, just as any new program probably could after 2015.

Also, if user3's concern is whether or not CUSOM affiliates would still have a preference for DOs over MDs, even if they start out as ACGME programs, I don't think he needs to worry. Most places take people they're familiar with first ahead of others. If all the CUSOM students are rotating at those programs, chances are they'll be taking plenty of CUSOM grads.

 

[Temperature101]

If you apply to a residency that requires a prelim year, you apply to both a prelim year (PGY-1) and your residency (PGY-2) at the same time and match both at the same time. If you match a PGY-2 spot in neurology, anesthesiology, radiology, etc., then you need to also match a prelim year (unless you get a categorical spot). There are some people who only match a prelim/TRI/TY in which case they would be applying for the next year as a physician applicant, which some specialties have reserved spots for these applicants. Look at the NRMP data from this year, they are denoted as *R positions.

What TRI stands for?

 

[a runner]

What TRI stands for?

TRI=traditional rotating internship. It's sort of like the osteopathic version of a transitional year.

 

[Temperature101]

TRI=traditional rotating internship. It's sort of like the osteopathic version of a transitional year.

Can someone be fully licensed as general practitioner after doing the TRI?