Match List 2016

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SynapticDoctah said:
Did you guys hear that?
...oh sorry it was just the glass ceiling shattering.
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It was ridiculous to hear traditional students who go to MDs spewing this bs about the real world. I'm a nontraditional student who has worked in the real world for 4-5 years. As you move up the ladder in your pursuit of a profession, the prestige of the institution matters less and less. It's 90% up to the individual. I'm glad to hear that hardworking students can still get where they want to go regardless of the degree.
 
navigator said:
Anesth at MGH and EM at JHU?! Does this mean that these fields are becoming relatively easier to match into (i.e. PM&R) or were these complete studs with crazy board scores, LORs and pubs??
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I don't know them personally (I'm an MS3). I assume they were rockstars. I don't believe EM and anesthesia are getting any less competitive.


AlteredScale said:
Vascular Surgery at Cleveland Clinic, nice! Can someone confirm if its the main hospital or a satellite like FL?

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Main hospital.

AnatomyGrey12 said:
The NYU IM match isn't their main hospital program right?
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I don't believe NYU Lutheran is NYU's main hospital (could be wrong... Not super familiar with IM - not a specialty I'm considering).
 
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lorettau said:
I don't know them personally (I'm an MS3). I assume they were rockstars. I don't believe EM and anesthesia are getting any less competitive.




Main hospital.



I don't believe NYU Lutheran is NYU's main hospital (could be wrong... Not super familiar with IM - not a specialty I'm considering).
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NYU Lutheran is not. The main med center is NYU Langone. That Vas Surg match is awesome!


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The Vasc Surgery is increadible! There are only a few dozen programs in the country and it's one of the most popular specialties in the country now. I'd love to see that students résumé and see what they did that put them over the top to get in that field.
 
lorettau said:
I assume they were rockstars. I don't believe EM and anesthesia are getting any less competitive.
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Anesthesia is a ton less competitive all of a sudden. There were a lot of SOAP openings this year.

EM I think is about the same as always. But has been very DO friendly for a while.


lorettau said:
I don't believe NYU Lutheran is NYU's main hospital (could be wrong... Not super familiar with IM - not a specialty I'm considering).
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NYU Lutheran I think is ATSU-SOMA's Brooklyn teaching hospital. MD place with NYU affiliation but SOMA students are based out of there.
 
CleganeBowlis4Real said:
lol I think even SGU makes that distinction on their lists. That being said I think that was from an email sent to the class. They'll probably distinguish that when they post it on their website.
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It is a very early list. I'm assuming it's one that was just sent to the 4th year class so they could see where their classmates would be. I say that b/c they haven't released that e-mail to the first or second year class yet. I'm sure there will be a more updated/accurate one coming out, probably in May.

nwciowa said:
Not sure as to the specifics, but DMU has matched 100% of their students for the 3rd year in a row. Will try to update with specific matches when the info comes out!
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100% match or 100% placement? A lot of places advertise that they have a 100% match rate when it's really the latter. Still, as long as they're getting 100% placement, it means all their students are going to be physicians.
 
SLC said:
Anesthesia is a ton less competitive all of a sudden. There were a lot of SOAP openings this year.

EM I think is about the same as always. But has been very DO friendly for a while.




NYU Lutheran I think is ATSU-SOMA's Brooklyn teaching hospital. MD place with NYU affiliation but SOMA students are based out of there.
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NYU Lutheran is far from NYU Langone, and was only added to the NYU Langone health system a little under a year ago. It was always known as Lutheran Medical Center.
 
throwaway15525 said:
NYU Lutheran is far from NYU Langone, and was only added to the NYU Langone health system a little under a year ago. It was always known as Lutheran Medical Center.
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Bingo.

Still, congrats to the person who matched there. Not meant as a dig at anyone's accomplishments.
 
navigator said:
Anesth at MGH and EM at JHU?! Does this mean that these fields are becoming relatively easier to match into (i.e. PM&R) or were these complete studs with crazy board scores, LORs and pubs??
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Ran into a few of these people on interviews at JHU and a few other prestigious places and all had top 5-10% board scores.
 
68PGunner said:
It's nice to see that the common misconception of DOs being inferior to MDs when it comes to residency application is a complete myth in the real world. Congrats to all the matched people!:highfive:
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Depends. If you are applying to something competitive, it is definitely not a myth. There is still a fair amount of DO bias, but we are finally breaking into it and will hopefully turn things around.


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Mbeas said:
Depends. If you are applying to something competitive, it is definitely not a myth. There is still a fair amount of DO bias, but we are finally breaking into it and will hopefully turn things around.


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I am starting to think this is happening in part because of the merger. I don't think I have even heard of DOs matching into some of these places in the more recent past.
 
IslandStyle808 said:
I am starting to think this is happening in part because of the merger. I don't think I have even heard of DOs matching into some of these places in the more recent past.
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Good. The DOs that matched into these pretigious programs deserve it. It's a travesty to even think that DOs with great resumes would get shut out of these programs in the first place. The line bet DOs and MDs is becoming less and less. I'm all for opening up all programs in order to get the best applicants in the best programs. I think this was the intent of the merger:

1) To open up AOA surgical residencies to MDs students
2) For all AOA and AGME programs to consider applicants based on their merits rather than the titles MD or DO
 
Mbeas said:
Depends. If you are applying to something competitive, it is definitely not a myth. There is still a fair amount of DO bias, but we are finally breaking into it and will hopefully turn things around.


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The seemingly bias is prevalent not because of the PD's prejudice but rather of the typical inferior DOs due to subpar clinical training or just below average medical applicants.

However, you have to take a lot of things into consideration. Four to eight years ago, the MCAT and GPA to get into DOs were 3.3 cgpa/sgpa and 25-26 MCAT. Nowadays, those stats are around 3.5-3.6 cgpa/sgpa and 28-30 MCAT for the more established DOs. The quality of students going to DOs is closer to the quality of those going to MDs nowadays. Therefore, it's not surprising to see more gems coming out of DOs in recent times.
 
I would also add that the stringent requirements of medical schools nowadays cater toward traditional students. However, in some cases, the nontraditional students are usually the ones that excel in medical schools by their ability to be discipline, multitask, and work well with others.
 
bestinthewest said:
I agree with what you're saying, but what's inexcusable is when an AMG MD low passes his or her boards and still matches rads, GS, and anest from a respectable mid-tier program. I'm talking 207. While it isn't everything, it certainly says a lot about your medical knowledge on paper and drive to be a good physician. Hopefully this merger will situate them where they belong...
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It's slowly moving there based on the recent matches coming out of established DOs.
 
bestinthewest said:
I agree with what you're saying, but what's inexcusable is when an AMG MD low passes his or her boards and still matches rads, GS, and anest from a respectable mid-tier program. I'm talking 207. While it isn't everything, it certainly says a lot about your medical knowledge on paper and drive to be a good physician. Hopefully this merger will situate them where they belong...
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I think a bigger issue is that when an AMG MD gets an okay step score but absolutely rocks their third year (honors most of it) and that is packed with letters from department heads from reputable hospitals it in many ways, redeems them and allows them to get into programs that not even a DO with great step scores/clinical grades/and decent LORs can get. I really do believe it's the fact that many PDs play it safe in the sense that they trust the clinical training an AMG gets from a university medical center vs a DO student who ends up training at some no name hospital. A tough situation.
 
AlteredScale said:
I think a bigger issue is that when an AMG MD gets an okay step score but absolutely rocks their third year (honors most of it) and that is packed with letters from department heads from reputable hospitals it in many ways, redeems them and allows them to get into programs that not even a DO with great step scores/clinical grades/and decent LORs can get. I really do believe it's the fact that many PDs play it safe in the sense that they trust the clinical training an AMG gets from a university medical center vs a DO student who ends up training at some no name hospital. A tough situation.
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Also, somewhat related to this...all MDs have a home institution that's a great "fallback" option for them. Also, their school/mentor/etc. really goes to bat for them to get a residency spot by calling, emailing, whatever it takes. DO schools do not support their own students in this way and honestly don't have the connections or clout to do so anyway.
 
Cubsfan10 said:
Also, somewhat related to this...all MDs have a home institution that's a great "fallback" option for them. Also, their school/mentor/etc. really goes to bat for them to get a residency spot by calling, emailing, whatever it takes. DO schools do not support their own students in this way and honestly don't have the connections or clout to do so anyway.
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Agreed. And even so, some DO programs have departments in medicine/surgery but you never actually meet these faculty because they are at a hospital that you never actually rotate at for third year (luck of the draw for the lotto method of matching for third year)!
 
bestinthewest said:
I agree with what you're saying, but what's inexcusable is when an AMG MD low passes his or her boards and still matches rads, GS, and anest from a respectable mid-tier program. I'm talking 207. While it isn't everything, it certainly says a lot about your medical knowledge on paper and drive to be a good physician. Hopefully this merger will situate them where they belong...
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What is this crap? Step 1 doesn't tell you anything about medical knowledge or drive to be a good physician. It tests your basic science knowledge for Christ sake. It's truly amusing that you think a good doctor must have high board scores. Read this thread and see for yourself. High scorers tend to be the opposite of what you're saying since they put more efforts to buildup stats than actually learn to become a good physician. This certainly doesn't apply to everyone, but you're greatly wrong if you believe stats speak the quality of a physician. Moreover, I disagree with your statement of AMGs have easier time of matching into certain specialties. Guess what? They deserve it and they will always look better on paper when comparing to DOs and IMGs/FMGs. If you think that is unfair, then you should've went to MD in the first place. You know far too well of the disadvantage for DOs when it comes to residency application. The merge will truly place the fairness when DO schools fix their pretentious clinical educations. Until then, a few gem DOs get to crack the ceiling whereas the rest can only watch.
 
kenjixshadow said:
What is this crap? Step 1 doesn't tell you anything about medical knowledge or drive to be a good physician. It tests your basic science knowledge for Christ sake. It's truly amusing that you think a good doctor must have high board scores. Read this thread and see for yourself. High scorers tend to be the opposite of what you're saying since they put more efforts to buildup stats than actually learn to become a good physician. This certainly doesn't apply to everyone, but you're greatly wrong if you believe stats speak the quality of a physician. Moreover, I disagree with your statement of AMGs have easier time of matching into certain specialties. Guess what? They deserve it and they will always look better on paper when comparing to DOs and IMGs/FMGs. If you think that is unfair, then you should've went to MD in the first place. You know far too well of the disadvantage for DOs when it comes to residency application. The merge will truly place the fairness when DO schools fix their pretentious clinical educations. Until then, a few gem DOs get to crack the ceiling whereas the rest can only watch.
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.... define "pretentious."
 
Cubsfan10 said:
Also, somewhat related to this...all MDs have a home institution that's a great "fallback" option for them. Also, their school/mentor/etc. really goes to bat for them to get a residency spot by calling, emailing, whatever it takes. DO schools do not support their own students in this way and honestly don't have the connections or clout to do so anyway.
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Schools and mentors don't go to bat for bum candidates regardless of their affiliations. However, there are certainly more opportunities for a MD to impress the right people in order to score that tough residency match. Similarly, if you're a good DO, there will still be opportunities for you to impress the right people. If you're a stud, having 3 shots vs 10 shots at impressing the right people doesn't matter jack in the grand scheme of things.
 
kenjixshadow said:
What is this crap? Step 1 doesn't tell you anything about medical knowledge or drive to be a good physician. It tests your basic science knowledge for Christ sake. It's truly amusing that you think a good doctor must have high board scores. Read this thread and see for yourself. High scorers tend to be the opposite of what you're saying since they put more efforts to buildup stats than actually learn to become a good physician. This certainly doesn't apply to everyone, but you're greatly wrong if you believe stats speak the quality of a physician. Moreover, I disagree with your statement of AMGs have easier time of matching into certain specialties. Guess what? They deserve it and they will always look better on paper when comparing to DOs and IMGs/FMGs. If you think that is unfair, then you should've went to MD in the first place. You know far too well of the disadvantage for DOs when it comes to residency application. The merge will truly place the fairness when DO schools fix their pretentious clinical educations. Until then, a few gem DOs get to crack the ceiling whereas the rest can only watch.
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You need to take a few chill pills... I have some Prozac here.
 
kenjixshadow said:
I'll calm down when you're calm down. Anyway, I can't be bothered arguing with you for pointless reasons and getting off topic. This thread title is match list 2016, not a bestinthewest's feeling thread.

This isn't unique to only MDs. Unlike you, I also know such things about DO students and MD students.

Thank you for participating son. However, shouldn't you spend more time studying to bring that GPA up since you are likely to get that 207 on step 1? Like you said, you need to care about your medical education in great length so that you can do well in the most significant exam you will ever take. Thank you for advocating for DOs, but don't get distracted or else they'll surely take over your spot.
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He said he HAD a 2.2 GPA. He is now accepted into an MD school. I'm pretty sure he got his GPA up a little higher than 2.2.


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Bandwagon1 said:
I'm looking at the allopathic thread for the match list 2016 and its mainly ppl posting the match list. Why can't this thread be like that? Can we just have at least one year where ppl stop putting down other ppl's accomplishments and make a REAL match list thread?????
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I'm just grateful its not turning into the Ross match list 2016 thread.
 
Westernu COMP
Anesthesiology
Riverside University Health Systems CA Riverside AOA
Riverside University Health Systems CA Riverside AOA
University of Chicago Medical Center IL Chicago ACGME
UT Houston TX Houston ACGME
University of Utah UT Salt Lake City ACGME

Emergency Medicine
Kingman Regional Medical Center AZ Kingman AOA
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center CA Colton AOA
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center CA Colton AOA
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center CA Colton AOA
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center CA Colton AOA
LAC-USC CA Los Angeles ACGME
Desert Regional Medical Center CA Palm Springs AOA
Desert Regional Medical Center CA Palm Springs AOA
Desert Regional Medical Center CA Palm Springs AOA
Kaweah Delta CA Visalia ACGME
St. James Health IL Chicago AOA
Saint Mary Mercy MI Livonia AOA
Promedica Monroe Hospital MI Monroe AOA
Botsford Hospital MI Farmington Hills AOA
St. Barnabas Hospital NY New York AOA
St. Barnabas Hospital NY New York AOA
Integris Southwest Medical Center OK Oklahoma City AOA
Norman Regional Health System OK Norman AOA
Kent Hospital RI Warwick AOA
San Antonio Military med center TX
Baystate/Tufts MA Springfield ACGME
UC Davis CA Sacramento ACGME

Family Medicine
Kaiser Permanente - Orange County CA Anaheim ACGME
Kaiser Permanente - Orange County CA Anaheim ACGME
Kaiser Permanente - Orange County CA Anaheim ACGME
Kaiser Permanente - Orange County CA Anaheim ACGME
Kaiser Permanente - Orange County CA Anaheim ACGME
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center CA Colton ACGME
PIH Downey CA Downey AOA
PIH Downey CA Downey AOA
UCSF Fresno CA Fresno ACGME
UCSF Fresno CA Fresno ACGME
College Medical Center CA Long Beach AOA
College Medical Center CA Long Beach AOA
Long Beach Memorial CA Long Beach ACGME
California Hospital Medical Center CA Los Angeles ACGME
California Hospital Medical Center CA Los Angeles ACGME
Kaiser Permanente - Los Angeles CA Los Angeles ACGME
Valley Family Medicine CA Modesto ACGME
Northridge Hospital Medical Center CA Northridge ACGME
Northridge Hospital Medical Center CA Northridge ACGME
Naval Hospital Camp Pendleton CA Oceanside Military
Pomona Valley Medical Center CA Pomona ACGME
Pomona Valley Medical Center CA Pomona ACGME
UC Davis Medical Center CA Sacramento ACGME
UC Davis Medical Center CA Sacramento ACGME
UC Davis Medical Center CA Sacramento ACGME
Harbor-UCLA Medical Center CA Torrance ACGME
PIH-Whittier CA Whittier ACGME
Dartmouth ME Augusta AOA
Nellis Air Force Base NV Las Vegas Military
University of Nevada Las Vegas NV Las Vegas ACGME
Ogden Medical Center NY Elmira AOA
McConville St. John's - University Hospitals Regional OH Cleveland AOA
Good Samaritan Regional Medical Center OR Corvallis AOA
Good Samaritan Regional Medical Center OR Corvallis AOA
Heart of Lancaster Regional Medical Center PA Lititz AOA
Texas Tech University Affil TX El Paso ACGME
Madigan Army Medical Center WA Tacoma Military
Puyallup Tribal Health Authority WA Tacoma AOA
Aurora St. Luke's Medical Center WI Milwaukee ACGME

General Surgery
Swedish Medical Center CO Englewood AOA
Palisades Medical Center NJ North Bergen AOA
St. Barnabas Hospital NY New York AOA

Internal Medicine
West Anaheim Medical Center CA Anaheim AOA
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center CA Colton AOA
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center CA Colton AOA
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center CA Colton AOA
Kaiser Permanente - Fontana CA Fontana ACGME
Kaiser Permanente - Fontana CA Fontana ACGME

Loma Linda CA Loma Linda ACGME
Loma Linda CA Loma Linda ACGME
St Mary Medical Center CA Long Beach ACGME
Kaiser Permanente - Los Angeles CA Los Angeles ACGME
UCLA-Oliveview CA Los Angeles ACGME
Scripps Mercy Hospital CA San Diego ACGME
Scripps Mercy Hospital CA San Diego ACGME
Harbor-UCLA CA Torrance ACGME
Community Memorial Health System CA Ventura AOA
Broward Health Medical Center FL Fort Lauderdale AOA
Mercy Medical Center IA Des Moines AOA
University of Illinois at Chicago IL Chicago ACGME
Indiana University IN Indianapolis ACGME
Louisiana State University Hospital LA Lafayette ACGME
Botsford MI Farmington Hills AOA
Darthmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center NH Lebanon ACGME
Darthmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center NH Lebanon ACGME
University of New Mexico NM Albuquerque ACGME
University of New Mexico NM Albuquerque ACGME
Valley Hospital Medical Center NV Las Vegas AOA
Valley Hospital Medical Center NV Las Vegas AOA
Valley Hospital Medical Center NV Las Vegas AOA
St. John's - University Hospitals Regional OH Cleveland AOA
Good Samaritan Hospital OR Corvallis AOA
Providence St. Vincent OR Portlandia ACGME
Legacy Emanuel/Good Samaritan OR Portland ACGME
San Antonio Military Medical Center TX San Antonio Military

Neurology
USC CA Los Angeles ACGME
Desert Regional Medical Center CA Palm Springs AOA
UC Davis CA Sacramento ACGME
University of New Mexico NM Albuquerque ACGME
Westchester Medical Center NY Valhalla ACGME
Cleveland Clinic OH Cleveland ACGME
Kaiser Permanente - Los Angeles CA Los Angeles ACGME

Neurosurgery
St. John Providence MI Southfield AOA
St. Barnabas Medical Center NJ Livingston AOA

OB/GYN
UCSF-Fresno CA Fresno ACGME
Loma Linda University CA Loma Linda ACGME
Genesys Regional Medical Center MI Grand Blanc AOA
Metro Health MI Grand Rapids AOA
Mercy Health MI Muskegon AOA
Womack Army Medical Center NC Fayetteville Military
Memorial Hospital PA York AOA
University of Tennessee TN Chattanooga ACGME
Naval Medical Center Portsmouth VA Portsmouth Military
Madigan Army Medical Center WA Tacoma Military

Ophthalmology
George Washington University D.C. Washington ACGME

Orthopedic Surgery
Riverside University Health System CA Riverside AOA
Community Memorial Health System CA Ventura AOA
Larkin Community Hospital FL Miami AOA
McLaren Oakland MI Pontiac AOA
Jersey City Medical Center NJ Jersey City AOA
South Pointe Hospital OH Cleveland AOA
Good Samaritan Regional Medical Centery OR Corvallis AOA
Good Samaritan Regional Medical Center OR Corvallis AOA
Pinnacle Health PA Harrisburg AOA

Pathology
Louisiana State University School of Medicine LA New Orleans ACGME

Pediatrics
USC CA Los Angeles ACGME
USC CA Los Angeles ACGME
USC CA Los Angeles ACGME
Kaiser LA CA Los Angeles ACGME
University of New Mexico NM Albuquerque ACGME
Akron Children's OH Akron ACGME

Pediatrics - Medical Genetics
Children's Hospital of Michigan MI Detroit ACGME

PM&R
UCI CA Irvine ACGME
UCLA CA LA ACGME
UCLA CA LA ACGME
UCLA CA LA ACGME
Larkin FL Miami AOA
Northwestern/RIC IL Chicago ACGME
University of Washington WA Seattle ACGME

Psychiatry
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center CA Colton AOA
UCSF Fresno CA Fresno ACGME
Loma Linda University CA Loma Linda ACGME
Loma Linda University CA Loma Linda ACGME
UCLA - San Fernando Valley CA Los Angeles ACGME
UC Davis CA Sacramento ACGME
NMCSD CA San Diego Military
St. Elizabeth's Hospital DC Washington DC ACGME
Allegiance Health MI Jackson AOA
University of New Mexico NM Albuquerque ACGME
Case Western Reserve / University Hospitals OH Cleveland ACGME
Vanderbilt TN Nashville ACGME
John Peter Smith TX Fort Worth ACGME

Radiology
St. James Medical Center IL Olympia Fields AOA
Grand Rapids Med Ed Partners MI Grand Rapids ACGME
University of New Mexico NM Albuquerque ACGME

Transitional/Traditional/Prelim Med
UCI CA Irvine ACGME
Kaweah Delta CA Visalia ACGME
Sky ridge Medical Center CO Lone Tree AOA
Larkin Community Hospital FL Miami AOA
Genesys Regional Medical Center MI Grand Blanc AOA
Plainview Hospital-NSLIJ NY Plainview AOA
Lewis Gale Hospital-Montgomery VA Blacksburg AOA
 
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Westernu COMP
Anesthesiology
Riverside University Health Systems CA Riverside AOA
Riverside University Health Systems CA Riverside AOA
University of Chicago Medical Center IL Chicago ACGME
UT Houston TX Houston ACGME
University of Utah UT Salt Lake City ACGME

Emergency Medicine
Kingman Regional Medical Center AZ Kingman AOA
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center CA Colton AOA
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center CA Colton AOA
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center CA Colton AOA
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center CA Colton AOA
LAC-USC CA Los Angeles ACGME
Desert Regional Medical Center CA Palm Springs AOA
Desert Regional Medical Center CA Palm Springs AOA
Desert Regional Medical Center CA Palm Springs AOA
Kaweah Delta CA Visalia ACGME
St. James Health IL Chicago AOA
Saint Mary Mercy MI Livonia AOA
Promedica Monroe Hospital MI Monroe AOA
Botsford Hospital MI Farmington Hills AOA
St. Barnabas Hospital NY New York AOA
St. Barnabas Hospital NY New York AOA
Integris Southwest Medical Center OK Oklahoma City AOA
Norman Regional Health System OK Norman AOA
Kent Hospital RI Warwick AOA
San Antonio Military med center TX
Baystate/Tufts MA Springfield ACGME
UC Davis CA Sacramento ACGME

Family Medicine
Kaiser Permanente - Orange County CA Anaheim ACGME
Kaiser Permanente - Orange County CA Anaheim ACGME
Kaiser Permanente - Orange County CA Anaheim ACGME
Kaiser Permanente - Orange County CA Anaheim ACGME
Kaiser Permanente - Orange County CA Anaheim ACGME
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center CA Colton ACGME
PIH Downey CA Downey AOA
PIH Downey CA Downey AOA
UCSF Fresno CA Fresno ACGME
UCSF Fresno CA Fresno ACGME
College Medical Center CA Long Beach AOA
College Medical Center CA Long Beach AOA
Long Beach Memorial CA Long Beach ACGME
California Hospital Medical Center CA Los Angeles ACGME
California Hospital Medical Center CA Los Angeles ACGME
Kaiser Permanente - Los Angeles CA Los Angeles ACGME
Valley Family Medicine CA Modesto ACGME
Northridge Hospital Medical Center CA Northridge ACGME
Northridge Hospital Medical Center CA Northridge ACGME
Naval Hospital Camp Pendleton CA Oceanside Military
Pomona Valley Medical Center CA Pomona ACGME
Pomona Valley Medical Center CA Pomona ACGME
UC Davis Medical Center CA Sacramento ACGME
UC Davis Medical Center CA Sacramento ACGME
UC Davis Medical Center CA Sacramento ACGME
Harbor-UCLA Medical Center CA Torrance ACGME
PIH-Whittier CA Whittier ACGME
Dartmouth ME Augusta AOA
Nellis Air Force Base NV Las Vegas Military
University of Nevada Las Vegas NV Las Vegas ACGME
Ogden Medical Center NY Elmira AOA
McConville St. John's - University Hospitals Regional OH Cleveland AOA
Good Samaritan Regional Medical Center OR Corvallis AOA
Good Samaritan Regional Medical Center OR Corvallis AOA
Heart of Lancaster Regional Medical Center PA Lititz AOA
Texas Tech University Affil TX El Paso ACGME
Madigan Army Medical Center WA Tacoma Military
Puyallup Tribal Health Authority WA Tacoma AOA
Aurora St. Luke's Medical Center WI Milwaukee ACGME

General Surgery
Swedish Medical Center CO Englewood AOA
Palisades Medical Center NJ North Bergen AOA
St. Barnabas Hospital NY New York AOA

Internal Medicine
West Anaheim Medical Center CA Anaheim AOA
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center CA Colton AOA
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center CA Colton AOA
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center CA Colton AOA
Kaiser Permanente - Fontana CA Fontana ACGME
Kaiser Permanente - Fontana CA Fontana ACGME

Loma Linda CA Loma Linda ACGME
Loma Linda CA Loma Linda ACGME
St Mary Medical Center CA Long Beach ACGME
Kaiser Permanente - Los Angeles CA Los Angeles ACGME
UCLA-Oliveview CA Los Angeles ACGME
Scripps Mercy Hospital CA San Diego ACGME
Scripps Mercy Hospital CA San Diego ACGME
Harbor-UCLA CA Torrance ACGME
Community Memorial Health System CA Ventura AOA
Broward Health Medical Center FL Fort Lauderdale AOA
Mercy Medical Center IA Des Moines AOA
University of Illinois at Chicago IL Chicago ACGME
Indiana University IN Indianapolis ACGME
Louisiana State University Hospital LA Lafayette ACGME
Botsford MI Farmington Hills AOA
Darthmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center NH Lebanon ACGME
Darthmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center NH Lebanon ACGME
University of New Mexico NM Albuquerque ACGME
University of New Mexico NM Albuquerque ACGME
Valley Hospital Medical Center NV Las Vegas AOA
Valley Hospital Medical Center NV Las Vegas AOA
Valley Hospital Medical Center NV Las Vegas AOA
St. John's - University Hospitals Regional OH Cleveland AOA
Good Samaritan Hospital OR Corvallis AOA
Providence St. Vincent OR Portlandia ACGME
Legacy Emanuel/Good Samaritan OR Portland ACGME
San Antonio Military Medical Center TX San Antonio Military

Neurology
USC CA Los Angeles ACGME
Desert Regional Medical Center CA Palm Springs AOA
UC Davis CA Sacramento ACGME
University of New Mexico NM Albuquerque ACGME
Westchester Medical Center NY Valhalla ACGME
Cleveland Clinic OH Cleveland ACGME
Kaiser Permanente - Los Angeles CA Los Angeles ACGME

Neurosurgery
St. John Providence MI Southfield AOA
St. Barnabas Medical Center NJ Livingston AOA

OB/GYN
UCSF-Fresno CA Fresno ACGME
Loma Linda University CA Loma Linda ACGME
Genesys Regional Medical Center MI Grand Blanc AOA
Metro Health MI Grand Rapids AOA
Mercy Health MI Muskegon AOA
Womack Army Medical Center NC Fayetteville Military
Memorial Hospital PA York AOA
University of Tennessee TN Chattanooga ACGME
Naval Medical Center Portsmouth VA Portsmouth Military
Madigan Army Medical Center WA Tacoma Military

Ophthalmology
George Washington University D.C. Washington ACGME

Orthopedic Surgery
Riverside University Health System CA Riverside AOA
Community Memorial Health System CA Ventura AOA
Larkin Community Hospital FL Miami AOA
McLaren Oakland MI Pontiac AOA
Jersey City Medical Center NJ Jersey City AOA
South Pointe Hospital OH Cleveland AOA
Good Samaritan Regional Medical Centery OR Corvallis AOA
Good Samaritan Regional Medical Center OR Corvallis AOA
Pinnacle Health PA Harrisburg AOA

Pathology
Louisiana State University School of Medicine LA New Orleans ACGME

Pediatrics
USC CA Los Angeles ACGME
USC CA Los Angeles ACGME
USC CA Los Angeles ACGME
Kaiser LA CA Los Angeles ACGME
University of New Mexico NM Albuquerque ACGME
Akron Children's OH Akron ACGME

Pediatrics - Medical Genetics
Children's Hospital of Michigan MI Detroit ACGME

PM&R
UCI CA Irvine ACGME
UCLA CA LA ACGME
UCLA CA LA ACGME
UCLA CA LA ACGME
Larkin FL Miami AOA
Northwestern/RIC IL Chicago ACGME
University of Washington WA Seattle ACGME

Psychiatry
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center CA Colton AOA
UCSF Fresno CA Fresno ACGME
Loma Linda University CA Loma Linda ACGME
Loma Linda University CA Loma Linda ACGME
UCLA - San Fernando Valley CA Los Angeles ACGME
UC Davis CA Sacramento ACGME
NMCSD CA San Diego Military
St. Elizabeth's Hospital DC Washington DC ACGME
Allegiance Health MI Jackson AOA
University of New Mexico NM Albuquerque ACGME
Case Western Reserve / University Hospitals OH Cleveland ACGME
Vanderbilt TN Nashville ACGME
John Peter Smith TX Fort Worth ACGME

Radiology
St. James Medical Center IL Olympia Fields AOA
Grand Rapids Med Ed Partners MI Grand Rapids ACGME
University of New Mexico NM Albuquerque ACGME

Transitional/Traditional/Prelim Med
UCI CA Irvine ACGME
Kaweah Delta CA Visalia ACGME
Sky ridge Medical Center CO Lone Tree AOA
Larkin Community Hospital FL Miami AOA
Genesys Regional Medical Center MI Grand Blanc AOA
Plainview Hospital-NSLIJ NY Plainview AOA
Lewis Gale Hospital-Montgomery VA Blacksburg AOA
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Any idea if that's all Pomona or p-town + NW?
 
IslandStyle808 said:
LECOM seems to be the most impressive to me, but kinda want to avoid a whole debate. They all seem to have really good matches so far. Waiting to see more.
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Agree, not trying to start a debate. But, I'm very impressed with LECOM too (but I'm biased as that'll be me next year). Last year's match was pretty stellar as well. LECOM gets a lot of hate on here and not all of it is warranted. I've had a fine experience as a medical student there. Get your work done and don't break any of the (widely known) rules and you'll have no issues. Happy to see that the students above me are doing so well!
 
More students are self reporting and if I get the chance I'll add to the current list (need to remove all the personal info - not going to be the jerk that shared the private spreadsheet). Otherwise LECOM will publish their 2016 match list in the next couple of months (it varies every year)
 
Cubsfan10 said:
Also, their school/mentor/etc. really goes to bat for them to get a residency spot by calling, emailing, whatever it takes. DO schools do not support their own students in this way and honestly don't have the connections or clout to do so anyway.
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This is another really great point that I don't think I realized before the match. It's pretty amazing to see the amount of support some of the MD schools get from their faculty. They will really do everything they can to help you get a spot, especially for the smaller competitive specialties where everyone in the field knows each other. Also, for the SOAP, they is tremendous support as well, where you can sit down with your dean and figure out a plan. After 2nd year, you really don't hear much from DO schools anymore and you are basically on your own. Also, it is pretty amazing to hear the lack of knowledge from some of the DO clinical coordinators/mentors about the ACGME match. You really learn most of it on your own.

For the people complaining that they just want to see match lists, that's fine but what we are discussing is still related to the thread topic. Everyone wants to hear that going to a DO school is awesome and that everyone is going where they want for residency, but it is important to understand that there are negatives that need to be highlighted, just as the positives need to be highlighted. Also, you really shouldn't interpret these posts as "negative", but it is the reality and the sooner you realize these things, the better.
 
Stagg737 said:
It is a very early list. I'm assuming it's one that was just sent to the 4th year class so they could see where their classmates would be. I say that b/c they haven't released that e-mail to the first or second year class yet. I'm sure there will be a more updated/accurate one coming out, probably in May.



100% match or 100% placement? A lot of places advertise that they have a 100% match rate when it's really the latter. Still, as long as they're getting 100% placement, it means all their students are going to be physicians.
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Everyone has a place to go, from what I understand. Lotsa doctas.
 
Definitely impressed with the match lists. The glass ceiling is getting higher, but it's definitely not broken... anybody else notice how few Derm matches we're seeing in these lists?
 
Mbeas said:
This is another really great point that I don't think I realized before the match. It's pretty amazing to see the amount of support some of the MD schools get from their faculty. They will really do everything they can to help you get a spot, especially for the smaller competitive specialties where everyone in the field knows each other. Also, for the SOAP, they is tremendous support as well, where you can sit down with your dean and figure out a plan. After 2nd year, you really don't hear much from DO schools anymore and you are basically on your own. Also, it is pretty amazing to hear the lack of knowledge from some of the DO clinical coordinators/mentors about the ACGME match. You really learn most of it on your own.

For the people complaining that they just want to see match lists, that's fine but what we are discussing is still related to the thread topic. Everyone wants to hear that going to a DO school is awesome and that everyone is going where they want for residency, but it is important to understand that there are negatives that need to be highlighted, just as the positives need to be highlighted. Also, you really shouldn't interpret these posts as "negative", but it is the reality and the sooner you realize these things, the better.
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I think the advising issue needs to be addressed in accreditation, if it isn’t already. Schools should have to demonstrate that they provide career advising at least once on a semester-to-semester basis during 3rd and 4th year. This could be accomplished by distance education or video conference, if necessary. In the third year, students who have picked their specialty of choice should be able to have ready access to a faculty member who is board certified in that specialty. Since the merger is a done deal, the requirement should also state that advisors need to demonstrate some minimal competency regarding the specifics of the ACGME and NRMP processes.

The problem is that with the size of some of these schools, the logistics of providing this type of advising would be difficult. The biggest logistical hurdle would be getting everyone back for this advising, given the disparate geographical distribution of rotations at some DO schools, which is why it may be easier to funnel students interested in certain specialties through departmental rotations in late third year or early fourth year, right around the time applications need to start heading out. Each school could maintain academic affiliations with several residency programs proportional to the demand for that specialty and mandate students rotate through these programs in the very first part of their 4th year. While there, they would complete a structured clinical curriculum and receive a crash course on applying to that specialty. A home letter could be provided, especially in those specialties where these academic letters are already so important. Advisors could meet with each applicant individually. If you set just one month aside for this, it wouldn’t greatly disrupt the normal audition season and it’s essentially what happens in the MD world anyway (students typically rotate through their home institution first, followed by away rotations). I also think that as auditions become more important in certain fields, accreditation requirements should mandate so many weeks of available audition time early in 4th year. Additionally, ample time should be required for interviewing as part of the normal process of applying to residency. DO students often have to interview at many more residencies than do their MD counterparts, and the reality of this situation should be recognized by COCA.

These few changes would go far to reduce the remaining small differences seen between DO and MD applicants. The biggest surprise of my time as a rotating medical student has been seeing how different individual schools (on both sides) are at addressing the very real hurdles of what is really one of the ultimate professional goals of medical school: matching a residency. Some schools provide incredibly laid back rotation scheduling and amazing support in professional development. As other people have pointed out, some do virtually nothing at all. Much of this should be addressed with some minimal standard.
 
IslandStyle808 said:
LECOM seems to be the most impressive to me, but kinda want to avoid a whole debate. They all seem to have really good matches so far. Waiting to see more.
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lorettau said:
I'm very impressed with LECOM too (but I'm biased as that'll be me next year). Last year's match was pretty stellar as well.
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Out of curiosity what impresses you about LECOM's match list? Is it because the names "Johns Hopkins" and "MGH" appear on the list? The ACGME vascular surgery match? Just wondering how you guys are looking at these lists? Seems like it's all about scanning for "big name" institutions anywhere on the list then counting the number of matches into "competitive" fields, particularly on the ACGME side? Seems a little strange to make such a sweeping generalization based on the match outcome of 3 students out of ~500 (< 1% of the match list). I hope this isn't how pre-meds are picking where to go to med school.

I've quoted what's available of the list below for reference...

lorettau said:
Here's some of LECOM's matches for this year:
*Only 100ish students are reporting, out of approx. 500 students btw the 3 campuses. LECOM hasn't released its official Match data.

Anesthesiology
Allopathic:
Massachusetts General - Boston, MA
Cleveland Clinic - Cleveland, OH (x4)
Ohio State University - Columbus, OH
University of Florida - Gainesville, FL

Emergency Medicine
Allopathic:
Johns Hopkins - Baltimore, MD
Mercy St. Vincent - Toledo, OH
Allegheny General Hospital - Pittsburgh, PA
Atlantic Health Systems/Morristown Medical Center - Morristown, NJ

Osteopathic:
St. Elizabeth’s - Boardman, OH
St. Barnabas - Bronx, NY
Henry-Ford Macomb - Clinton Twp, MI
Doctors Hospital - Columbus, OH
Oakwood Healthcare System - Detroit, MI
St. Vincent - Erie, PA

Dual:
Lehigh Valley Health Network - Bethlehem, PA
Genesys Regional Medical Center - Grand Blanc, MI (x2)

Family Medicine
Allopathic:
Albany Medical Center - Albany, NY
MedStar Franklin Square - Baltimore, MD
HonorHealth Scottsdale Osborn Medical Center - Scottsdale, AZ
Siouxland Med Ed Foundation - Sioux City, IA

Osteopathic:
New Hanover Regional Medical Center - Wilmington, NC

Dual:
UPMC Altoona - Altoona, PA
Montana Family Medicine Residency - Billings, MT
Heritage Valley Beaver - Beaver, PA
Lakeside Medical Center - Belle Glade, FL
Henry Ford-Detroit - Detroit, MI
St. Vincent - Erie, PA
Allegheny Health Network - Forbes Hospital - Monroeville, PA
Guthrie/Robert Packer Hospital - Sayre, PA
Washington Health System - Washington, PA

Military:
Jacksonville Naval Hospital - Jacksonville, FL

General Surgery (Categorical)
Allopathic:
Allegheny General Hospital - Pittsburgh, PA
Christiana Care - Newark, DE

Osteopathic:
Care Point Health - Bayonne, NJ
Western Reserve - Cuyahoga Falls, OH
Grandview - Dayton, OH
Pinnacle Health - Harrisburg, PA
Allegiance Health - Jackson, MI
St. James Health - Olympia Fields, IL
Memorial Hospital - York, PA

Vascular Surgery
Allopathic:
Cleveland Clinic - Cleveland, OH

Internal Medicine:
Allopathic:
U of South Florida - Tampa, FL
Penn State - Hershey, PA (x2)
Sinai Medical Center - Baltimore, MD
NYU Lutheran Medical Center - Brooklyn, NY
Albany Medical Center - Albany, NY
Lenox Hill Hospital - New York, NY
University of Florida - Gainesville, FL
New Hanover Regional Medical Center - Wilmington, NC

Osteopathic:
West Anaheim Medical Center - Anaheim, CA
Doctors Hospital - Columbus, OH
Largo Medical Center - Largo, FL
Northside Hospital Tampa Bay Heart Institute - St. Petersburg, FL
Community Memorial Health System - Ventura, CA

Dual:
Allegheny General Hospital - Pittsburgh, PA (x4)

Military:
Walter Reed National Military Medical Center - Bethesda, MD
Naval Medical Center Portsmouth - Portsmouth, VA (x2)

Internal Medicine/Emergency Medicine
Osteopathic:
Aria - Philadelphia, PA

Internal Medicine/Peds
Allopathic:
University of South Florida - Tampa, FL

Neurology
Allopathic:
Kaiser Permanente - Los Angeles, CA
Albany Medical Center - Albany, NY
Penn State Hershey - Hershey, PA
University of Cincinnati - Cincinnati, OH

Dual:
Michigan State University/Sparrow Hospital - Lansing, MI

Neurosurgery
Osteopathic:
Advocate Bromenn - Bloomington, IL
St. Barnabas - Livingston, NJ

Ob/Gyn
Allopathic:
Spectrum Butterworth/GRMEP - Grand Rapids, MI
St. Barnabas - Livingston, NJ
Orlando Health - Orlando, FL
Rutgers - Newark, NJ
Nassau University Medical Center - East Meadow, NY

Osteopathic:
Doctors Hospital - Columbus, OH

Ophthalmology
Osteopathic:
St. John's Episcopal - Far Rockaway, NY
St. John Health System - Warren, MI (x2)

Orthopedic Surgery
Osteopathic:
Doctors Hospital - Columbus, OH
Nassau University Medical Center - East Meadows, NY
Pinnacle - Harrisburg, PA
Largo Medical Center - Largo, FL
York Hospital - York, PA

Otolaryngology
Osteopathic:
PCOM - Philadelphia, PA

Pathology
Allopathic:
Duke University - Durham, NC
Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center - Lebanon, NH

Pediatrics
Allopathic:
Johns Hopkins - Baltimore, MD
Emory - Atlanta, GA
Cleveland Clinic - Cleveland, OH
Nicklaus Childrens - Miami, FL
UT Memphis - LeBonheur Children's - Memphis, TN
DuPont Childrens - Wilmington, DE
Helen DeVos Children's Hospital - Grand Rapids, MI

Dual:
St. John Providence - Detroit, MI
Sparrow - Lansing, MI
Cooper University Medical Ct - Camden, NJ

Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation
Allopathic:
Case Western/Metro Health - Cleveland, OH

Psychiatry
Allopathic:
University Hospitals - Case Medical Center - Cleveland, OH (x2)
University of Texas Health Science Center - San Antonio, TX
University of Florida - Gainesville, FL

Radiology
Allopathic:
University of Cincinnati - Cincinnati, OH
St. Vincent's - Bridgeport, CT
Milton S. Hershey Medical Center - Hershey, PA
Allegheny General Hospital - Pittsburgh, PA
UF Jacksonville - Jacksonville, FL

Osteopathic:
Hemet Valley Medical Center - Hemet, CA
St. James Health - Olympia Fields, IL
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MeatTornado said:
Out of curiosity what impresses you about LECOM's match list? Is it because the names "Johns Hopkins" and "MGH" appear on the list? The ACGME vascular surgery match? Just wondering how you guys are looking at these lists? Seems like it's all about scanning for "big name" institutions anywhere on the list then counting the number of matches into "competitive" fields, particularly on the ACGME side? Seems a little strange to make such a sweeping generalization based on the match outcome of 3 students out of ~500 (< 1% of the match list). I hope this isn't how pre-meds are picking where to go to med school.

I've quoted what's available of the list below for reference...
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I try my best to see which ones are top tier residencies from what is given on SDN. It's nearly impossible to find out unless you have a face to face with a PDs. From threads I have read, MGH for Anesthesia is considered top tier in the Anesthesia forums. What more should I do to get my facts straight?
 
MeatTornado said:
Out of curiosity what impresses you about LECOM's match list? Is it because the names "Johns Hopkins" and "MGH" appear on the list? The ACGME vascular surgery match? Just wondering how you guys are looking at these lists? Seems like it's all about scanning for "big name" institutions anywhere on the list then counting the number of matches into "competitive" fields, particularly on the ACGME side? Seems a little strange to make such a sweeping generalization based on the match outcome of 3 students out of ~500 (< 1% of the match list). I hope this isn't how pre-meds are picking where to go to med school.

I've quoted what's available of the list below for reference...
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Isn't that how anyone reads any match list? Which is why they are basically all useless trash as far as gleaning information from them
 
MeatTornado said:
Out of curiosity what impresses you about LECOM's match list? Is it because the names "Johns Hopkins" and "MGH" appear on the list? The ACGME vascular surgery match? Just wondering how you guys are looking at these lists? Seems like it's all about scanning for "big name" institutions anywhere on the list then counting the number of matches into "competitive" fields, particularly on the ACGME side? Seems a little strange to make such a sweeping generalization based on the match outcome of 3 students out of ~500 (< 1% of the match list). I hope this isn't how pre-meds are picking where to go to med school.

I've quoted what's available of the list below for reference...
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But... But... You said that it was impossible for DOs to get into top tier programs regardless of their achievements bc of their degrees.

Why do you care how people interpret the facts？You have issues.
 
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