Match Violations?

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    So I spoke on the phone with a PD from one of the programs i'm looking at and s/he tells me that if I rank them #1, i will definitely match there. Isn't that a match violation of some sort? Not that I care, really, just curious. I know that these sorts of statements are not to be trusted and it certainly won't affect my rank list, etc. But do these programs ever get in trouble for this kinda stuff? :rolleyes:
     

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      I thought that it was fine for either the program or the applicant to disclose how they will be ranking the other one... but it is NOT okay for the program or applicant to ASK how the other is ranking them.

      Not sure if that is true, but that's what I heard...
       

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        EMApplicant said:
        "...if I rank them #1, i will definitely match there."
        Damn, that must have been good to hear! Just to be explicit, that means if you rank them at all, you will definitely match there, UNLESS you match higher on your ROL than you listed them. In other words, where ever you rank them, you don't have to worry about matching at a program below them on your ROL. [However, just to be safe, I wouldn't end my ROL with them. :)
         
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          As I understand it, it is not a match violation to tell an applicant anything. It is a violation to ask the applicant to "do" anything. That is - you can say "Our program has ranked you #1", but you can't say "Our program will rank you #1 if you promise me that you will rank us #1" or even worse "We will rank you #1 if you only rank us and no other program".

          At least that was my understanding.

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            That makes sense. Guess I never read the fine print. Anyway, the PD that said this did so without asking for any sort of commitment. Nor did I ask them how they were ranking me. It was just an unsolicited comment. I certainly didn't take offense or anything, was just wondering if it was kosher and all.
             

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              r124c41 said:
              EMApplicant said:
              "...if I rank them #1, i will definitely match there."
              Damn, that must have been good to hear! Just to be explicit, that means if you rank them at all, you will definitely match there, UNLESS you match higher on your ROL than you listed them. In other words, where ever you rank them, you don't have to worry about matching at a program below them on your ROL. [However, just to be safe, I wouldn't end my ROL with them. :)

              Yeah, it was nice to hear. It was also a program that I had already ranked pretty highly. Anyway, i'm definitely taking it with a big grain of salt. I'm not believing anything till I see the contract get inked!
               

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                We were told by our program director that we cannot give any hint of how we are ranking a candidate nor can we discuss if they will match or not. I think it is a NRMP violation to mention anything about ranking a program. You cannot say that if a candidate ranks you #1 that he/she will match.
                 

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                  southerndoc said:
                  We were told by our program director that we cannot give any hint of how we are ranking a candidate nor can we discuss if they will match or not. I think it is a NRMP violation to mention anything about ranking a program. You cannot say that if a candidate ranks you #1 that he/she will match.

                  A resident from the program I matched called me two days before to tell me that they ranked me first. That was definetly the best call I've ever received in my life.
                   

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                    EMApplicant said:
                    So I spoke on the phone with a PD from one of the programs i'm looking at and s/he tells me that if I rank them #1, i will definitely match there. Isn't that a match violation of some sort? Not that I care, really, just curious. I know that these sorts of statements are not to be trusted and it certainly won't affect my rank list, etc. But do these programs ever get in trouble for this kinda stuff? :rolleyes:

                    I got a similar phone call from one of the Chicago programs and I didn't think it was a problem.... although I don't want to go to this one in particular.
                     
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