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So this is my third and last post today (sorry for over doing it). I've been looking everywhere, just out of pure curiosity (I know that any formula isn't entirely accurate). Is there an acceptance DO formula out there that accounts for Science and non science gpa as well as the mcat. Thank you!!
 
In all honesty, no. Formulas are thrown around (ie LizzyM) but stats only tell you so much. Stats can at least give you an idea of where to apply if you look at the Osteo handbook. However, try not to get so wrapped up in the numbers like so many people on this site do, be optimistic, and inevitably things will work out if you want it bad enough.
 
So this is my third and last post today (sorry for over doing it). I've been looking everywhere, just out of pure curiosity (I know that any formula isn't entirely accurate). Is there an acceptance DO formula out there that accounts for Science and non science gpa as well as the mcat. Thank you!!

Yes, there is a more comprehensive formula I came up with a couple years ago to help quantify more factors for competitiveness and ease my neurosis 😛

I have updated it for the new DO matriculant stats, however the adjustment factors at the bottom may still need some tweeking


General applicant formula:

cGPA * 10 + sGPA *10 + MCAT = applicant score

3.43 * 10 + 3.32 * 10 + 25.73 = 93.2 average applicant

3.51 * 10 + 3.42 * 10 + 26.85 = 96.2 average matriculant

This is based on the observation that osteopathic schools seem be more holistic when evaluating applicants and a little less concerned with numbers, specifically MCAT scores, than their allopathic counterparts. This is shown by the larger percentile difference in MCAT scores (26.8 vs. 31.1) than GPA (3.51 vs. 3.67) It places equal weighting between science GPA, cumulative GPA and MCAT score.


The following modification will be made to account for students who have a graduate degree in the natural sciences or have done a postbacc with 24 or more credit hours completed (one year full time) to account for the weighting of recent coursework in returning students.

(cGPA + grad cGPA) * 5 + (sGPA + grad sGPA)*5 + MCAT = graduate student applicant score

(cGPA + postbacc cGPA) * 5 + (sGPA + postbacc sGPA)*5 + MCAT = post bacc student applicant score


To determine the criteria for an underdog we can utilize the 10th / 90th percentile rule from the MSAR and apply it as +/- 1 std deviation, or the 16th / 84th percentile to keep the calculations simple. So the true underdog would have at least one of the three academic categories below the 16th percentile with the other two average or below as well. By using the cGPA as the statistical outlier, and probably the most common one for successful underdogs, we come up with the following score for an underdog:

(3.51 - .28) * 10 + 3.42 * 10 + 26.85 = 93.4 underdog threshold (or ~ the average applicant is a slight underdog)

(3.51 - .28) * 10 + (3.42 - .33) * 10 + (26.85 - 3.19) = 86.9 long shot


However, outliers cause issues. A 3.7 cGPA, 3.5 sGPA with an 22 on the MCAT will be a underdog, but according to a simple formula it will compute as a competitive score. To combat this we will add several modifiers to compensate for people with unbalanced stats.

-1 point MCAT overall 24
-2 points MCAT overall 23
-3 points MCAT overall 22
-1.5 points Every section on the MCAT that scores a 7
-3 points Every section on the MCAT that scores a 6
-1 point cGPA 3.00 - 3.19
-3 points cGPA 2.85 - 2.99
-5 points cGPA 2.75 - 2.84
-1 point sGPA 3.00 - 3.09
-3 points sGPA 2.85 - 2.99
-5 points sGPA 2.75 - 2.84


Additional factors:
MCAT overall scores < 22 will be screened out by nearly every school and will not be rated
MCAT sectional scores < 6 will be screened out by nearly every school and will not be rated
cGPA or sGPA < 2.75 will be screened out by nearly every school and will not be rated

Finally, there is a large difference in the admission statistics between osteopathic schools, DMU has an average matriculant score over 100 while Pikeville is around 91. So a 3.2/3.1 with a 24 MCAT may be a big problem at one school but halfway decent at another.
 
Yes, there is a more comprehensive formula I came up with a couple years ago to help quantify more factors for competitiveness and ease my neurosis 😛

I have updated it for the new DO matriculant stats, however the adjustment factors at the bottom may still need some tweeking


General applicant formula:

cGPA * 10 + sGPA *10 + MCAT = applicant score

3.43 * 10 + 3.32 * 10 + 25.73 = 93.2 average applicant

3.51 * 10 + 3.42 * 10 + 26.85 = 96.2 average matriculant

This is based on the observation that osteopathic schools seem be more holistic when evaluating applicants and a little less concerned with numbers, specifically MCAT scores, than their allopathic counterparts. This is shown by the larger percentile difference in MCAT scores (26.8 vs. 31.1) than GPA (3.51 vs. 3.67) It places equal weighting between science GPA, cumulative GPA and MCAT score.


The following modification will be made to account for students who have a graduate degree in the natural sciences or have done a postbacc with 24 or more credit hours completed (one year full time) to account for the weighting of recent coursework in returning students.

(cGPA + grad cGPA) * 5 + (sGPA + grad sGPA)*5 + MCAT = graduate student applicant score

(cGPA + postbacc cGPA) * 5 + (sGPA + postbacc sGPA)*5 + MCAT = post bacc student applicant score


To determine the criteria for an underdog we can utilize the 10th / 90th percentile rule from the MSAR and apply it as +/- 1 std deviation, or the 16th / 84th percentile to keep the calculations simple. So the true underdog would have at least one of the three academic categories below the 16th percentile with the other two average or below as well. By using the cGPA as the statistical outlier, and probably the most common one for successful underdogs, we come up with the following score for an underdog:

(3.51 - .28) * 10 + 3.42 * 10 + 26.85 = 93.4 underdog threshold (or ~ the average applicant is a slight underdog)

(3.51 - .28) * 10 + (3.42 - .33) * 10 + (26.85 - 3.19) = 86.9 long shot


However, outliers cause issues. A 3.7 cGPA, 3.5 sGPA with an 22 on the MCAT will be a underdog, but according to a simple formula it will compute as a competitive score. To combat this we will add several modifiers to compensate for people with unbalanced stats.

-1 point MCAT overall 24
-2 points MCAT overall 23
-3 points MCAT overall 22
-1.5 points Every section on the MCAT that scores a 7
-3 points Every section on the MCAT that scores a 6
-1 point cGPA 3.00 - 3.19
-3 points cGPA 2.85 - 2.99
-5 points cGPA 2.75 - 2.84
-1 point sGPA 3.00 - 3.09
-3 points sGPA 2.85 - 2.99
-5 points sGPA 2.75 - 2.84


Additional factors:
MCAT overall scores < 22 will be screened out by nearly every school and will not be rated
MCAT sectional scores < 6 will be screened out by nearly every school and will not be rated
cGPA or sGPA < 2.75 will be screened out by nearly every school and will not be rated

Finally, there is a large difference in the admission statistics between osteopathic schools, DMU has an average matriculant score over 100 while Pikeville is around 91. So a 3.2/3.1 with a 24 MCAT may be a big problem at one school but halfway decent at another.

Excellent post! Thank you!!
 
Yes, there is a more comprehensive formula I came up with a couple years ago to help quantify more factors for competitiveness and ease my neurosis 😛

I have updated it for the new DO matriculant stats, however the adjustment factors at the bottom may still need some tweeking


General applicant formula:

cGPA * 10 + sGPA *10 + MCAT = applicant score

3.43 * 10 + 3.32 * 10 + 25.73 = 93.2 average applicant

3.51 * 10 + 3.42 * 10 + 26.85 = 96.2 average matriculant

This is based on the observation that osteopathic schools seem be more holistic when evaluating applicants and a little less concerned with numbers, specifically MCAT scores, than their allopathic counterparts. This is shown by the larger percentile difference in MCAT scores (26.8 vs. 31.1) than GPA (3.51 vs. 3.67) It places equal weighting between science GPA, cumulative GPA and MCAT score.


The following modification will be made to account for students who have a graduate degree in the natural sciences or have done a postbacc with 24 or more credit hours completed (one year full time) to account for the weighting of recent coursework in returning students.

(cGPA + grad cGPA) * 5 + (sGPA + grad sGPA)*5 + MCAT = graduate student applicant score

(cGPA + postbacc cGPA) * 5 + (sGPA + postbacc sGPA)*5 + MCAT = post bacc student applicant score


To determine the criteria for an underdog we can utilize the 10th / 90th percentile rule from the MSAR and apply it as +/- 1 std deviation, or the 16th / 84th percentile to keep the calculations simple. So the true underdog would have at least one of the three academic categories below the 16th percentile with the other two average or below as well. By using the cGPA as the statistical outlier, and probably the most common one for successful underdogs, we come up with the following score for an underdog:

(3.51 - .28) * 10 + 3.42 * 10 + 26.85 = 93.4 underdog threshold (or ~ the average applicant is a slight underdog)

(3.51 - .28) * 10 + (3.42 - .33) * 10 + (26.85 - 3.19) = 86.9 long shot


However, outliers cause issues. A 3.7 cGPA, 3.5 sGPA with an 22 on the MCAT will be a underdog, but according to a simple formula it will compute as a competitive score. To combat this we will add several modifiers to compensate for people with unbalanced stats.

-1 point MCAT overall 24
-2 points MCAT overall 23
-3 points MCAT overall 22
-1.5 points Every section on the MCAT that scores a 7
-3 points Every section on the MCAT that scores a 6
-1 point cGPA 3.00 - 3.19
-3 points cGPA 2.85 - 2.99
-5 points cGPA 2.75 - 2.84
-1 point sGPA 3.00 - 3.09
-3 points sGPA 2.85 - 2.99
-5 points sGPA 2.75 - 2.84


Additional factors:
MCAT overall scores < 22 will be screened out by nearly every school and will not be rated
MCAT sectional scores < 6 will be screened out by nearly every school and will not be rated
cGPA or sGPA < 2.75 will be screened out by nearly every school and will not be rated

Finally, there is a large difference in the admission statistics between osteopathic schools, DMU has an average matriculant score over 100 while Pikeville is around 91. So a 3.2/3.1 with a 24 MCAT may be a big problem at one school but halfway decent at another.

I agree with most of what you said. But I have seen a friend who had a sub 2.9-3.0 gpa with a great MCAT score (35) get into a great DO school. Had a very unique non-clinical list of activities. School he matriculated in averaged approximately a 98 based on your scoring chart. Also your averages seem a little different then the ones I found. I guess you are including people who have pursued graduate school. The average gpa I saw hovered around 3.45-3.53 and a 3.35-3.45 science. Ranging differently for certain races.

In my opinion, a 35+ MCAT would probably help a weaker applicant (3.0-3.3 cgpa/sgpa) in the osteopathic cycle than one in the allopathic cycle.

Lowest statistics I know of who got into a MD based on your scaling was a 95.

I would say based on your scale anyone with a 3.3/3.3/28 is competitive for example. I would consider a 94+ a decent applicant who has a great cycle if he/she applied early enough.

As of now without the MCAT I personally stand at a 67 (applying June 2015).

I do like that equation a lot more than the Lizzy M. However, an adcom at an MD has told me they still use Lizzy M. If you get an interview, then questions may be asked about a low science gpa the interivewer may have obtained.
 
I'll be honest, any formula of this sort will just tell you how much of a crapshoot the whole process is in its entirety.

Agreed. No formula is exact. There are always exceptions to the rule. A person in the admissions department may have just gotten a speeding ticket and hate the world. Who knows! I just like to see the generalities to get an idea of what's going on!

Thanks for all the posts guys!
 
I have a 83.5 matriculant score based on the above and have an acceptance already...so don't be discouraged if you are below the average from the above.

I'm not a URM.*
 
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I have a 83.5 matriculant score based on the above and have an acceptance already...so don't be discouraged if you are below the average from the above.

I'm not a URM.*

what are your numbers?
 
I got verified 10/17 and did lots of secondaries been complete for a week at some school or a tad more. According to that formula I have a 97 hoping I get an ii soon 😀
 
I think that formulae are too generalized. How on earth could a formula account for a person's bedside manner, service experiences, and overall personality? As has been said over and over again, DO schools look at the total applicant. You could be a stellar applicant on paper, but a complete antisocial idiot in person during an interview.

I know it is human nature to compare and rank ourselves with others. It gives us a sense of entitlement or satisfaction to know others are similarly miserable, happy, etc, or even worse off than us. Of course, we also make excuses when we see those who appear (based on a one-dimensional formula) to be better-qualified than us. We might say: "Oh, they had more opportunities in life---money, better schooling, rich uncle, more talents, blah, blah, blah, etc." Or worse yet, we throw a pity party for ourselves and make excuses for our weaknesses.

As has been said, adcom committees are all very subjective because they use some stats guidelines mixed with their own human judgment. Just use the published matriculation averages for each school. That will be good enough. But, if a formula helps you bite your nails less, by all means----calculate away. 🙂
 
What are your EC like, if you don't mind me asking?
 
3.13 cgpa, 2.90sgpa, 27 MCAT (9/9/9)

P.S. I am at 3 total acceptances now, and again I am not URM.
What was so special about your application though? it wasn't simply by chance you got accepted, let alone accepted at Three schools! (congrats btw)
 
That is actually 87, which is bit higher than 83...
and according to the formula: "(3.51 - .28) * 10 + (3.42 - .33) * 10 + (26.85 - 3.19) = 86.9 long shot"

sorry my calculations are a little off. I am not a mathematician.
 
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