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To accept the fact that we shouldn't get rich doing this. Even if private practice pathologists have their incomes slashed from 400 k to 225k that is still a great living and 4x the median income.
To accept the fact that we shouldn't get rich doing this. Even if private practice pathologists have their incomes slashed from 400 k to 225k that is still a great living and 4x the median income.
To accept the fact that we shouldn't get rich doing this. Even if private practice pathologists have their incomes slashed from 400 k to 225k that is still a great living and 4x the median income.
Obama is solely committed to reversing the Reagan revolution. Reagan redistributed wealth from the poor to the rich and now Obama is filtering it back
How does one redistribute wealth from the poor? That does not make any sense. The poor is poor, aka they have no wealth, how do you take something that does not exist? If you know how to take something that does not exist please let me know, Id like to get on this kind of action
By making the poor porrer and the rich richer. That us what has happened the lAst thirty years. The era od Reagan is over
To accept the fact that we shouldn't get rich doing this. Even if private practice pathologists have their incomes slashed from 400 k to 225k that is still a great living and 4x the median income.
225k after taxes IS a great living IF you haven't sacrificed 12+ years of your life and incurred hundreds of thousands of dollars in student loans OR if you aren't trying to live in a halfway decent neighborhood in a major metropolitan area.
I didn't choose to become a pathologist for the money. There are plenty of other ways for me (and just about anyone else) to make way more money than I do as a pathologist.
I just can't figure out what your overall argument is, though.
Do you somehow think that we as pathologists do not provide a valuable service? Why should our income be slashed in half while other professions with less education and training see their incomes increase?
The medicare reimbursement for the professional component on an 88305 is approximately $40. That's ridicuously cheap for the amount of expertise that goes into a diagnosis. $40 is a pedicure. $40 isn't even enough for a good steak. I can't even get my lawn mowed for $40.
Without pathology, the majority of medicine is essentially lost. A surgeon can biopsy as many moles or colon polyps as they want, but what the patient really wants to know is if it is cancer or not. And yet somehow no one knows what the heck a pathologist even is. That's pathetic.
What do you think the fair market value for our services should be? If a medical malpractice suit for a wrong diagnosis is hundreds of thousands of dollars, how much is a correct diagnosis really worth?
The medicare reimbursement for the professional component on an 88305 is approximately $40. That's ridicuously cheap for the amount of expertise that goes into a diagnosis. $40 is a pedicure. $40 isn't even enough for a good steak. I can't even get my lawn mowed for $40.
On another note people keep posting on my thread its way better, more diversity of opinion.
For me to stop posting my inane drivel in this forum.
pathstudent said:Well the country is now broke and 45 million people don't have insurance. ...
Until the democrats are out of power wealth redistribution is our future like it r not
I just can't figure out what your overall argument is, though.
Do you somehow think that we as pathologists do not provide a valuable service? Why should our income be slashed in half while other professions with less education and training see their incomes increase?
The medicare reimbursement for the professional component on an 88305 is approximately $40. That's ridicuously cheap for the amount of expertise that goes into a diagnosis. $40 is a pedicure. $40 isn't even enough for a good steak. I can't even get my lawn mowed for $40.
To accept the fact that we shouldn't get rich doing this. Even if private practice pathologists have their incomes slashed from 400 k to 225k that is still a great living and 4x the median income.
I guess you could opt out of medicare and try to negotiate with insurance companies to pay you 100 for an 88305. But hospital based pathologists kind of have to take it like it is unless your admin agrees not to admite medicare patients to the hospital. Even if you don't accept medicare, the federal govt has a law that you can only charge so much to a medicare patient.
The future will have to be a two tier system. Medicare-based hospitals and a handful of elite private ones where patients will pay 100 for PC on an 88305.
This is exactly what I am going to do.
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So the Warhol Obama avatar wasn't doing it for you? What does John Merrick have to do with anything?
How does one redistribute wealth from the poor? That does not make any sense. The poor is poor, aka they have no wealth, how do you take something that does not exist? If you know how to take something that does not exist please let me know, Id like to get on this kind of action
So...the country is broke, by your admission, and instead of objecting we should just accept it and move on...
I don't buy "inevitibility" as a principled position of support...like you're admitting the country is being financially run to the ground and you'd rather just get a free ride to the bottom than make a stand.
That's such a cop out...you have no principled argument to support the financial ruin of the country (other than speaking in terms of comparison to past presidents), just a complacent attitude to accept it.
Well then no hospital based group will hire you nor any reference lab. And like I sort of explained you won't be able to charge seniors fee for service. The federal govt has some law that limits the max you can charge geezers. It says in effect "If we only give you 30 for an 88305, then you can only charge them 35 if you opt out of medicare" or something like that. In other words you can't bilk geezers. And to make it worse, I believe the govt gives the medicare rate to the patient and then you have to go try to collect it from the patient, and the geezer is probably saying "Screw it, I am going to die anyway, so I'll just keep the $30. Screw that pathologist guy, who the hell is he anyway. I never saw no Dr. Nilf. Is he even a real doctor? Don't pathologists just do autopsies and solve crimes".
You could try to start your own path lab and take only outpatient stuff and send out the medicare cases.
Or you could go into pediatric pathology.
And >75% of those are innane cheerleading continue-posts wherein you beg people to add more posts.
No S%$# Douche Its also gotten 1400 views and 44 replies, Im encouraging those 1400 views to post. Get a life instead of doing stats on SDN pathology.
(Sorry Yaah if you see this post this guy punched first I had to pummel him, he should also be banned for the lamest name on sdn ever)
57% of those 1400 views were you.
Im rarely on this site, .
Sorry I dont have time for that, .
Just like Chuck Norris, the very first surgical pathologist ever.
I was just checking to see when Chuck Norris references were last in, and it was over 4 years ago.
This thread is amazingly intellectual and stimulating. Just like politics.
To accept the fact that we shouldn't get rich doing this. Even if private practice pathologists have their incomes slashed from 400 k to 225k that is still a great living and 4x the median income.
I didn't bust my ass through high school, undergrad, med school, AND a top-notch residency for a mere 4x median. Sorry. ObamaCare owes me more than that.
I didn't bust my ass through high school, undergrad, med school, AND a top-notch residency for a mere 4x median. Sorry. ObamaCare owes me more than that.
and salt (what a lame name) will do his stats for him
Maybe it's time to accept the fact that we shouldn't get rich doing this. Even if private practice pathologists have their incomes slashed from 400 k to 225k that is still a great living and 4x the median income.
I'm less concerned about whether doctors should or should not "get rich" plying their trade than whether "slashed" physician income affects quality of care. Having undergone multiple delicate surgeries with high risk, I do not begrudge my doc one penny of his fee.
It would be great if I could count on the same quality of care for a fraction of the cost, but unfortunately I also believe you more or less get what you pay for.