Mcat - early, normal, late

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Usually, having a mcat score by july is considered a little late or normal...this cycle would having an mcat by july be normal, august normal/late, september - late-ish

help - need new measures metrics for this cycles timeline esp since people already have mcat scores ready to go from january and before
 
Usually, having a mcat score by july is considered a little late or normal...this cycle would having an mcat by july be normal, august normal/late, september - late-ish

help - need new measures metrics for this cycles timeline esp since people already have mcat scores ready to go from january and before
@wya2020 you're probably new here, but it's not considered good on SDN to start multiple threads asking the same question. Give a couple days for someone to respond 🙂
 
@wya2020 you're probably new here, but it's not considered good on SDN to start multiple threads asking the same question. Give a couple days for someone to respond 🙂
The registration opens today so I just wanted some insight before everyone's rushing to get new dates
 
The registration opens today so I just wanted some insight before everyone's rushing to get new dates
Get the best date you can, and the testing agency says that they will try to turn the scores around in 2 weeks rather than the usual month.
 
Get the best date you can, and the testing agency says that they will try to turn the scores around in 2 weeks rather than the usual month.
Do you think a score release of august 6 would be too late? I am aiming for a late july test date and would wait to submit to schools (besides verification) until I have my score. So other students might have their secondaries who are submitting without a score before me...would that put me at a disadvantage time-wise?
 
Do you think a score release of august 6 would be too late? I am aiming for a late july test date and would wait to submit to schools (besides verification) until I have my score. So other students might have their secondaries who are submitting without a score before me...would that put me at a disadvantage time-wise?
I ordinarily would not advise someone to submit a primary app without knowing their MCAT score, but this year I would, as long as you feel ready for the test.
Yes, those who have a score, even re-applicants, will be able to be complete sooner than you.
Each school has their own way of processing apps so there is not one answer to your question. TMDSAS will forward your app to Texas schools without MCAT scores and supporting documents, so you would be seen as submitting your primary "early" even if you are waiting on a score. I don't know the case for AMCAS>
 
I ordinarily would not advise someone to submit a primary app without knowing their MCAT score, but this year I would, as long as you feel ready for the test.
Yes, those who have a score, even re-applicants, will be able to be complete sooner than you.
Each school has their own way of processing apps so there is not one answer to your question. TMDSAS will forward your app to Texas schools without MCAT scores and supporting documents, so you would be seen as submitting your primary "early" even if you are waiting on a score. I don't know the case for AMCAS>
I do not want to submit without a mcat score as I have taken the mcat once prior and did not do so well (502) due to illness, but my gpa is a 3.9+ after this sem and sgpa is 3.88 so I do not want to be dismissed from schools based on that first mcat...so would waiting to apply until i hae that second score the first week of august make me late? Also, thank you for all your help!
 
I do not want to submit without a mcat score as I have taken the mcat once prior and did not do so well (502) due to illness, but my gpa is a 3.9+ after this sem and sgpa is 3.88 so I do not want to be dismissed from schools based on that first mcat...so would waiting to apply until i hae that second score the first week of august make me late? Also, thank you for all your help!
Submitting a primary in August would be late for TMDSAS, even this year. Texas schools will hold to see your new score before judging you. If AMCAS is your app platform, I'm not the expert on that.

adding: @gonnif is the expert on that , and I see he just answered you 🙂
 
There are NO new metrics as this year's cycle is under extraordinary circumstances that are constantly evolving. So you are looking for absolute answers where none exist


1) People dont get into medical score because they applied first, they get in because they have a strong application
2) People dont get in because they have an early MCAT score, its because they have a good MCAT score
3) Taking an MCAT before you are ready risks a bad scores that stays with you forever


********AMCAS 2021 Timeline Summary (post count #013)************

Because of the novel Corona virus / COVID-19 and the very dynamic changes this will bring throughout society for the this year (and likely for the next 2-3 years if pandemics of the 20th century would indicate), questions will come up again and again about online prereqs, P/F courses, MCAT prep and testing, volunteering, shadowing, Physician LOR, lab requirements, virtual interviews, etc. However, there is no definitive answer as no one knows which schools will act in which ways, nor how the upcoming cycle will happen. However, as medical schools are on the front lines of this both in treating patients as well as setting appropriate behavior for community public health, it would seems reasonable that most medical schools will take into consideration over the next few years at least. In this time of crisis, we all must learn to live with uncertainty and ambiguity about the future.
-Applicants should be filling out the AMCAS 2021.
-AMCAS provides dozens of “How to” tutorial and videos, most of which are linked in my signature. Applicants should download the free 2021 AMCAS Applicant Guide when available. It should be considered the study guide on how to fill out AMCAS.
-Applicants should have the MSAR, which should be considered the text book for the application process
-Applying to medical school is a full time job from May until through September and then on call for the rest of the cycle. There is no general rule across schools when they may evaluate and review your application, possibly invite you for an interview, when the interview may be, when a decision may be reached, or when you may get off a WL. For some of you, the cycle will run until August 2021.
-AMCAS May 4, 2020, Primary application opens up. Can send formal requests for transcripts from your schools and letter requests to your letter writers.
-AMCAS May 28, 2020, Completed primary applications with all ECs, PS, and course information can be submitted.
-You enter the verification queue (“time to verify”) only when both completed primary application and all transcripts have been received.
-AMCAS does not, repeat, does not verify LOR or MCAT score. Your primary application will be verified regardless of LOR or MCAT score status
-AMCAS June 26, 2020 (delayed to due Corona/COVID-19), JULY 10 begins transmission verified applications (though some schools have secondaries sent to contact info upon submission to AMCAS)
-Verification peak is about August 1st and takes 20 days
-Most Primary Apps are transmitted early July thru early September
-Secondaries timelines can vary widely as to when to they are sent out from almost immediately upon submissions to 3 months, though most are in the range 1-3 weeks after transmission.
-Letters via AMCAS are processed/transmitted separately from primary
-Letters can be added after primary has been submitted and transmitted and are mostly not needed until secondary reviews at the earliest.
-While applications are transmitted at end of June, most schools do not start any processing until at least mid-July at the earliest; even then, most dont get up to full speed until mid-August.
-There are usually 3 main phases in processing application
----1) Initial Screening/Evaluation: A hybrid of automatic GPA/MCAT screen plus human for "quick review" of application. Used to for general priority and, in some cases, which team/subcommittee gets application. At some schools, preset criteria or informal policy can lead to II at this stage.
----2) Full Evaluation: This is where evaluator/reader/team/subcommittee will fully evaluate all sections of primary, secondary, and LOR and generally summarize in broad categories or point system. This essentially becomes your priority for adcom review and II. This function may be split up among several evaluators and may go to a team or subcommittee for II decision. Application are not typically evaluated until complete with Primary, Secondary, MCAT, and LOR
----3) Full adcom: this is where your fully evaluated application is reviewed and decided for interview invite After interview Adcom will vote on admission (acceptance or alternate WL)
-Application and candidate evaluations timeline varies widely by school may not done in a linear, chronological order. EDP, High achievers, URM, family of alumni, feeder schools, associated UG programs, linked postbaccs, and other factor may push an app forward in the process.
-Most adcoms dont start meeting for review of evaluated applicants until at least mid-August, more likely September, though some reviews may be done earlier for groups mentioned above. Evaluation may start almost immediately at some schools.
-Schools receive 5,000-10,000 application but can only evaluate several hundred applications a week. Therefore, it can take anywhere from 4-16 weeks (1-4 months) or more to be evaluated, reviewed and invited for interview after your application is complete.
-Schools must reduce several thousand applications to several hundred interviews.
At least 80% of applicants at any individual school must be rejected pre-interview.
-There are about 900,000 individual applications across 150+ medical schools with about 150,000 interview slots maximum. That means on average of 16 submitted applications only 3 will get an II.
-Applicants should check each applicant portal daily until application is marked complete, under review, or similar. After that, you should check applicant portal 2 to 3 times as week as schools may invite you for interview solely by portal; some schools do not send email for interview invite.’
-Medical Schools are deciding on Acceptance. All applicants start as “Unaccepted” or rejected. With 60% of applicants not getting a seat, all applicants must assume that may be reapplicants and start enhancing their record from the moment they submit AMCAS.
-Medical schools have no requirement to inform you of any decision other than an interview invite, an acceptance, or alternate/WL position. Some schools will never send out any rejection or other notice on your application as all start as “rejected”.
-Timing of early, on time or late refers to any impact that “lateness” may have on your chances. Being early or on time does not improve your chances but rather it means that timing will not be a factor in lowering your chances.
-Submitting Primary Application June is Early, July Medium, August Late
-Having Primary verified and transmitted to school by middle of August is normal speed
-Having Secondary and all LORs complete to school by Labor Day Mid-to-Late September (due to Corona/COVID-19) is likely early for all applicants at all schools, even highly competitive programs.
-Late September to Early October is about on time for solid candidates at most programs
-End of October is about late for almost all programs
-After that point you will generally start getting impacted by the number of applications submitted and the finite number of essentially rolling interview slots. Seats given by rolling admissions is not a big factor in this. These aren’t absolute dates nor is it a fixed timeline. It should be used as a guideline
-Medical schools focus on evaluation and pre-II review up until approximately Thanksgiving. At that time they need to start transitioning to post-interview acceptance decision. However, with the increasing number of applications per school, some fraction of interview invites will continue into the new year.
-Timing matters to getting your application in. Once you are in and evaluated, timing has little impact on your chances. It is a myth that schools fill all the seats early and then just have alternate slots.
-When you get invited for an interview is a better indicator of your interest of the school rather than when the actual interview is. Stronger candidates typically invited earlier.
-Medical schools cannot inform regular MD candidates of admission (acceptance or alternate) prior to Oct 15th. However, medical school can inform applicants of any other decision, such as rejection or hold, at any time from initial primary submission until past end of cycle. Do note that the only formal vote an admission committee need to make is for admission (acceptance or alternate/WL) and that is the only decision they must inform you about. A large fraction of applicants will never get a formal rejection; they will simply never get II or acceptance.

Getting primary in on time does matter because of all the other items that follow it. But applicants often see the beginning and not understanding how it flows from there. Additionally, how each school then opens a file, reviews them on GPA, MCAT, and other factors, and what order they wind up in a queue has less to do with when the primary arrives then when the secondary is completed and received. Since the majority of schools, I dare say, send out pre-transmission, unscreened, or minimal cut off screened secondaries, this is probably a larger factor in where you wind up in the queue for 1) reading an application and 2) decision on interview invite. As I have said previously, and will undoubtedly say dozens of time during this 2021 application cycle (see count above) review of apps is not simply done in a linear chronological order. High achievers, URM, family of alumni, feeder schools, associated UG programs, linked postbaccs, and other factor may push an app forward in the process.

You said:
-Submitting Primary Application June is Early, July Medium, August Late
-Having Primary verified and transmitted to school by middle of August is normal speed

If I submit my primary before my MCAT in say June or July to a single throwaway to have it verified, and then add schools in August early when I have my MCAT score, when would those schools get my primary transmitted? Would that allow me to have my app transmitted to schools by mid-August even though my score is not released until August 6 so I can still have things done at a "normal speed"? Or is there a delay in adding schools later?
 
Submitting a primary in August would be late for TMDSAS, even this year. Texas schools will hold to see your new score before judging you. If AMCAS is your app platform, I'm not the expert on that.

adding: @gonnif is the expert on that , and I see he just answered you 🙂
By "submitting a primary" do you mean turning in the primary and then waiting for it to be verified in August would be late...or having a verified primary already from an earlier submission but adding schools in August would be late? I am interested in a lot of Texas schools so wanted to confirm
 
By "submitting a primary" do you mean turning in the primary and then waiting for it to be verified in August would be late...or having a verified primary already from an earlier submission but adding schools in August would be late? I am interested in a lot of Texas schools so wanted to confirm
Submitting your TMDSAS app, with a fee paid, is considered submitting your primary. They will pass on the test scores and letters to the schools as you turn them in. Your transcripts are due later when they ask for them.
 
So if I already had my primary verified by applying to a throwaway earlier and only needed to submit it to/add a texas school once my score came out august 6 so it would then be sent over that day or the next...would I still be late?
Dude, send it to all the Texas schools.
 
My mcat for this year got cancelled and rescheduled twice and I no longer feel like this is the year I should apply for med school and try again next year. But I also dont want to try to reschedule my current mcat date without knowing if I can get another one in a few months. I'm unable to tell till when is the exam being offered this year and should I stick to my date in a month or try to reschedule?
 
My mcat for this year got cancelled and rescheduled twice and I no longer feel like this is the year I should apply for med school and try again next year. But I also dont want to try to reschedule my current mcat date without knowing if I can get another one in a few months. I'm unable to tell till when is the exam being offered this year and should I stick to my date in a month or try to reschedule?
Whether or not you want to take the test is totally up to you. You can go on the MCAT website and see all possible dates remaining in the testing year, which ends in September. There are never any tests from October-December. You can then go into the scheduling website and see what is available for you to reschedule into without losing your date before deciding whether or not to move your date. Due to the situation, you can reschedule or cancel for no charge, whereas there is normally a penalty for making any change after signing up. Good luck!!!
 
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