MCAT Miracles??

[Catman21]

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No, I did not.

you................... kinda did

 

[Catman21]

He also thinks his personal statement will absolve him.



You made a pretty big leap to that conclusion, didn't you?

by leap you must certainly mean forceful push....at gunpoint

sigh these sdn elitests...

 

[Catman21]

For those of you who actually received miracles, would you suggest sacrificing a chicken or just go all the way with a goat or something?

Cow or why even bother

 

[Ismet]

by leap you must certainly mean forceful push....at gunpoint

sigh these sdn elitests...

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A high MCAT score does not make up for the fact that this person has a criminal offense on his record from less than 6 months ago, in addition to an IA from before. Not going to waste time by finding the other thread, but @southernIM didn't say he can't be a doctor. He certainly should not apply this coming cycle, though, no matter what the MCAT score is. A criminal offense takes years to overcome when applying to medical school, and depending on what it was, it might never be overcome.

 

[ProbablyAPenguin]

Cow or why even bother

+1

 

[Greasy Pete]

what was the IA and the offense.?

 

[Catman21]

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A high MCAT score does not make up for the fact that this person has a criminal offense on his record from less than 6 months ago, in addition to an IA from before. Not going to waste time by finding the other thread, but @southernIM didn't say he can't be a doctor. He certainly should not apply this coming cycle, though, no matter what the MCAT score is. A criminal offense takes years to overcome when applying to medical school, and depending on what it was, it might never be overcome.

Your reading comprehension is poor.

I said nothing about the OP's deservedness of being a doctor, nor did I say anything to the extent that someone who has made a previous mistake is undeserving of a second chance.

What I did say, is that the OP is deluded in thinking that a high MCAT will somehow make up for for having a blemish like an IA or criminal charges on their application.

You both will have to forgive me for misunderstanding and choking on the awfully thick air of pretentiousness in both of your responses.

 

[ski89]

you say that like people who make a mistakes are never allowed to be doctors.....?

Lol no. He didn't.

 

[ski89]

You both will have to forgive me for misunderstanding and choking on the awfully thick air of pretentiousness in both of your responses.

Dr's have this thing called a DEA license. If in the hands of someone who has a track record of criminal behavior, can make for a very bad situation. Medical schools are not comfortable with this (rightfully so) especially when there is an overabundance of highly qualified, felony free applicants

 

[AlphaKY1]

I averaged around a 29 on my practice, got a 32 on the real thing. I couldn't focus during the practice tests; the adrenaline helped me.

 

[Catman21]

Like I said, your reading comprehension is poor.

When a school has an applicant with a prior institutional action or a criminal offense, they have to weigh that very seriously. In many cases yes, they will ultimately determine that the applicant is deserving of a second chance.

In some other cases, unfortunately, they will deem the offense significant enough to disqualify the applicant entirely.

But the point you seem to be missing is that you can't "make up" for an IA or criminal record with an MCAT score. No school is going to be like... "Well they have a record. But damn that 42 MCAT is amazing!"

The entire point of my post was that you can't expect strength in one aspect of your application to magically wipe the slate clean on gross deficiency in another aspect.

I may be wrong here, but i couldnt find out what the criminal offense was from this thread, if it was said, and it was major then sure, but theres loads of minor criminal offenses that wouldnt impede any sort of COM acceptance.

 

[Catman21]

Not my point, once again.

My point is - you can't simply "make up" for a criminal offense with stats. It isn't like a GPA where a high MCAT score can help make up for a lower GPA.

Things like criminal offenses and IAs are in an entirely separate domain of the application. The offense will be weighed by the adcom, and will either be bad enough to preclude admission, or not.

thats fairly ridiculous to be talking about absolutes in terms of admissions... the admissions is the most subjective process on the planet. How exactly do you know what the adcom will think of an unknown criminal offense. And how it will be handled.


I know of a matriculant to a top 20 school, that had stellar grades, and a stellar mcat that had a X mark on record. Didnt change the fact that he was an overly qualified applicant that had a made a mistake at some point. Sure you can't be a convicted felon, and get a unrestricted medical license that would be absurd, but sit behind your computer knowing virtually nothing about this persons case, and dismissively condescend to him is rather childish. Let the guy work hard and prove that hes dedicated to the field and the job, and let the adcoms figure it out. Thats not SDN's place.

 

[ridethecliche]

Because IA's and Criminal records matter for rotations and residency placement. Why would they bring in an applicant that is not going to be successful due to their history.

The only person that's trying to be an absolutist is someone that has no idea what the system looks like. Jeebus.

Others have seen what the IA and offense were, just because you haven't doesn't mean that they don't know.

 

[Catman21]

Not my point, once again.

My point is - you can't simply "make up" for a criminal offense with stats. It isn't like a GPA where a high MCAT score can help make up for a lower GPA.

Things like criminal offenses and IAs are in an entirely separate domain of the application. The offense will be weighed by the adcom, and will either be bad enough to preclude admission, or not.

last post on this nonsense, you keep saying "oh thats not my point." Stfu, that is exactly you're point.

 

[mcloaf]

last post on this nonsense, you keep saying "oh thats not my point." Stfu, that is exactly you're point.

Pretty much everybody else reading this thread understood his point fine. You're the only one having trouble.

 

[Ismet]

thats fairly ridiculous to be talking about absolutes in terms of admissions... the admissions is the most subjective process on the planet. How exactly do you know what the adcom will think of an unknown criminal offense. And how it will be handled.


I know of a matriculant to a top 20 school, that had stellar grades, and a stellar mcat that had a X mark on record. Didnt change the fact that he was an overly qualified applicant that had a made a mistake at some point. Sure you can't be a convicted felon, and get a unrestricted medical license that would be absurd, but sit behind your computer knowing virtually nothing about this persons case, and dismissively condescend to him is rather childish. Let the guy work hard and prove that hes dedicated to the field and the job, and let the adcoms figure it out. Thats not SDN's place.

You do realize you are speaking to people who currently serve or served in the past on admissions committees, right?

Congratulations, you have an n=1 example. I, too, see applicants with IAs and even criminal offenses on their records, and they can certainly be successful, but you want to know what is in common with all of those successful applicants? TIME (usually in years) and MATURATION since the offense. Sometimes even a character letter of recommendation to demonstrate this. People make mistakes, yes. But an applicant needs to demonstrate that they took responsibility for the mistake, learned from it, and took steps to make sure it never happens again. That takes time. Not 6 months. Not a stellar MCAT score. Not sure why that is so hard to understand. No one is speaking in absolutes about his chances or the chances of anyone with a background. We are being quite general about it given the fact that we don't know what the actual offense is. But one thing is for certain, that a stellar MCAT score itself does not make up for ANY offense. OP needs to own it, learn from it, and SHOW that he learned from it.

 

[TexasSurgeon]

I realize that I know the personal lives and achievements of some of you better than I know most of my friends' business.

 

[listener23]

Medical school is a lie

 

[lisi326]

Medical school is a lie

...like how the cake is a lie?

I can't vouch for the cake, but I say with 100% certainty that medical school does, in fact, exist.

(As long as we're working under the assumption that reality actually exists. If we're not, I can't help very much.)