Do you guys think I can work part time while studying for the MCAT? Is that possible and would that be a good thing to do?
Do you guys think I can work part time while studying for the MCAT? Is that possible and would that be a good thing to do?
Do you guys think I can work part time while studying for the MCAT? Is that possible and would that be a good thing to do?
I'm working 40ish hours right now at 2 jobs...personally, I turned the SN2ed schedule into a set number of 'blocks'. I currently have 109d until my exam and 75 blocks left, leaving me 34 break days or so. Of course, I work on a lot of those days, but I also have full days off where I can bust through more than one 'block'.As others have said it's largely contingent on you. FWIW I was working 25-30hrs/week while studying for it. I made a strict study schedule based in how I best learn/study and built in some wiggle room for if I got behind. I did fine. Just know your own limits and habits.
Yeah I used a block type schedule and based it around my work schedule. There are some things I would've tweaked and done differently, but overall I'd give myself an 85-90% on the plan I developed. Solid, but room for improvement; you just never know until after the fact.I'm working 40ish hours right now at 2 jobs...personally, I turned the SN2ed schedule into a set number of 'blocks'. I currently have 109d until my exam and 75 blocks left, leaving me 34 break days or so. Of course, I work on a lot of those days, but I also have full days off where I can bust through more than one 'block'.
I'm trying to figure out how to include a bunch of extra resources I got my hands on for cheap...Yeah I used a block type schedule and based it around my work schedule. There are some things I would've tweaked and done differently, but overall I'd give myself an 85-90% on the plan I developed. Solid, but room for improvement; you just never know until after the fact.
Well there are quite a few people who take the MCAT after college or have to pay their bills...There are people that actually study full time for the MCAT? Wowza...
I wouldn't be able to do that; I know I'd have burned out. But it works for some people, so more power to 'em!There are people that actually study full time for the MCAT? Wowza...
Well there are quite a few people who take the MCAT after college or have to pay their bills...
I am working full time and studying for the MCAT. It is difficult but doable.
The OP was asking about working, if they aren't working at a paid/unpaid job/internship while studying, then they are "studying full-time". This doesn't mean they are studying 9-5 every day of the week and doing nothing else, but volunteering/etc isn't work.I don't think you actually understood what I said. Read it again.
I was wondering if people actually study full time for the MCAT while doing little else. Sounds like a colossal waste of time. I can't believe that people couldn't spend a 10-20 hrs a week doing things like volunteering or working part time while studying. If anything, it would help me study.
And yeah, I worked full time when I took the MCAT. I had to retake it too. I've certainly done easier things in my life, but it wasn't all that bad...
Do you guys think I can work part time while studying for the MCAT? Is that possible and would that be a good thing to do?
The OP was asking about working, if they aren't working at a paid/unpaid job/internship while studying, then they are "studying full-time". This doesn't mean they are studying 9-5 every day of the week and doing nothing else, but volunteering/etc isn't work.
I'm working 50 hr/wk right now and study 4-5 hours a day (more on weekends). I'm already getting a little burnt out and I haven't even started my summer class yet. We can do it, it just sucks!
Your definition of work is interesting. Unpaid or internship counts as work, but volunteering isn't work.
Okay then.
Ya unfortunately most of the world does count volunteering as "work"...
Damn, respect. I'm about to be working full time, ~4 hours volunteering per week, and maybe some clinical stuff, and on top of that doing the MCAT. It worries me, but it's good to know people can do it. But... SIX MONTHS PREGNANT?! You must be some sort of super woman.You know yourself best. I could not afford to stop working. So, I worked full time, volunteered four hours per week, and kept up on my research project (about 2-8 hrs. per week) while I studied for the MCAT. Also I was six months pregnant when I took the MCAT. It worked out well, but it was very hard.
Damn, respect. I'm about to be working full time, ~4 hours volunteering per week, and maybe some clinical stuff, and on top of that doing the MCAT. It worries me, but it's good to know people can do it. But... SIX MONTHS PREGNANT?! You must be some sort of super woman.
Do you guys think I can work part time while studying for the MCAT? Is that possible and would that be a good thing to do?
So you worked full time when you studied for the MCAT, ended up doing poorly, and are also snidely remarking to people how they better be able to handle work and the MCAT at the same time (the snide remarks comment refers to a later post of yours)? That's idiotic.I don't think you actually understood what I said. Read it again.
I was wondering if people actually study full time for the MCAT while doing little else. Sounds like a colossal waste of time. I can't believe that people couldn't spend a 10-20 hrs a week doing things like volunteering or working part time while studying. If anything, it would help me study.
And yeah, I worked full time when I took the MCAT. I had to retake it too. I've certainly done easier things in my life, but it wasn't all that bad...
Goro, you are an Adcom if I remember correctly, but that doesn't make all of your posts correct. If that same person that you are referring to ended up scoring 3-4 points lower on the MCAT because they couldn't spend an extra 15 hours per week on studying, then I am pretty sure that would affect even YOUR opinion on their competence, when evaluating their application, more than the the "extracurricular hole" would. For example, a person that scored a 31 versus a 35 (or even a 34).Only you can answer this. On the whole, we do expect you to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time.
Goro, you are an Adcom if I remember correctly, but that doesn't make all of your posts correct. If that same person that you are referring to ended up scoring 3-4 points lower on the MCAT because they couldn't spend an extra 15 hours per week on studying, then I am pretty sure that would affect even YOUR opinion on their competence, when evaluating their application, more than the the "extracurricular hole" would. For example, a person that scored a 31 versus a 35 (or even a 34).
It's true, applicants need to be able to handle a heavy workload. Consider two identical people, one is studying for the MCAT very hard, emulating, say, a 55 hour/week workload? This person handled just as large a workload as the other identical student who studies 40 hours per week and volunteers 15. It's somewhat weird to assume that the one who is devoting less of his time to academic work is necessarily working harder. In other words, it's hard to assume that the one can handle a heavier workload than the other. It's also beyond the scope of this thread to assume that studying habits for one of the biggest tests of a wannabe physician's life can be easily compared to the studying habits of that same person in medical school; in other words, just because they recognized the importance of the MCAT, and treated it as a top priority for a few months, that doesn't mean they will treat every test in medical school as a priority over having extracurriculars going for years at a time.If an applicant can only do one thing at a time, like study for MCAT, then how would said applicant handle medical school, where s/he will be taking an MCAT every 1-5 weeks?
This indicates that you would be more likely to look favorably upon the applicant with 3-4 points less on the MCAT.Personally, I don't consider MCAT prep to be "working" in the same sense as someone taking, say, 15 credit hrs, while also volunteering in the local ER. We expect you to be able to do multiple things at once.
This indicates that you might agree that students would be better equipped to focus on the MCATThis is a really silly hypothetical. No Adcom has access to this granular level of information, and it's not a zero-sum game. We'd accept both candidates (on MCAT score) at my school, but Cornell wouldn't.
This doesn't make a lot of sense. They didn't need more time to get ready; they simply decided to use their time in a different way. They could have spent their time doing the same exact activities as their identical self (well, their clone). They simply decided that Adcoms would be more likely to look favourably upon a superior MCAT score than the other options. If you mean that the Adcoms would perceive that the applicant needed more time to get ready, then do you think that that perception would hurt the applicant more than the improved MCAT would help him/her? Nonetheless, we are considering the effect of the applicant's time spent during their summer on their chances of acceptance, rather than theoretical performance in medical school, after all.However, the latter candidate, who needed more time to get ready, while s/he might be in better med school, will more likely have trouble handling the curriculum.
Well said.You are missing the name of the game here, to be accepted nowadays you need BOTH a good mcat score and strong, continuous EC's. You can complain all day long that it isn't fair that someone has to work and that's why they got a 30 vs a 35, but end of the day all that matters is that they didn't get as strong of a score, but end of day with how many applicants there are, the number counts and maybe that person should've started studying earlier or adjusted differently to get the best score they could and maintained w.e EC they were involved in.
It is pretty wishful thinking and useless theoretical thinking to pretend two applicants are 100% the same besides study time for the MCAT and scores. In the real world there are going to be many different factors differentiating candidates, and even if not, a 30 vs a 35 is a big difference in scoring/demonstrated ability to succeed academically. The person that worked may be able to reach a 35 theoretically, but have they shown that? No.
A person who scored a 31 who could score 34 or 35 has not reached the point of diminishing returns. Also, when it comes to the MCAT, a 3 point gain pretty much never has a significant point of diminishing returns. I would bet that even a 45 MCAT would be looked at more favourably upon than a 42 MCAT. It might be less of a difference than a 34 versus a 31, but this is irrelevant. The 34 versus 31 is the situation that is relevant to the majority of applicants.There is such a thing as diminishing returns. More studying time is not necessarily better.
A person who scored a 31 who could score 34 or 35 has not reached the point of diminishing returns. Also, when it comes to the MCAT, a 3 point gain pretty much never has a significant point of diminishing returns. I would bet that even a 45 MCAT would be looked at more favourably upon than a 42 MCAT. It might be less of a difference than a 34 versus a 31, but this is irrelevant. The 34 versus 31 is the situation that is relevant to the majority of applicants.
Ah yes. I think it is unlikely for someone not to benefit from 15 hours of extra studying per week. For a peripheral example, in an easy major, or even in a difficult major, someone is likely to start doing better on their class exams if they start studying 15 hours per week more. Bottom line is that it is safe to assume that an extra 15 hours per week will most likely improve your score; this assumes that you are spending this 15 hours per week studying in an organized fashion.No, my point is that for some people more study time does not equal a higher score. In that case, they experience diminished return (no score improvement) for their increased studying.
So you worked full time when you studied for the MCAT, ended up doing poorly, and are also snidely remarking to people how they better be able to handle work and the MCAT at the same time (the snide remarks comment refers to a later post of yours)? That's idiotic.
Your MCAT is the most important part of your application, by far. It's not a "colossal waste of time" to proportionately distribute time to reflect that. Your example, ironically, proves it.
Funny...I was going to say it was far more doable if you work 10s or 12s, so you have multiple days completely free in a week!People study for the MCAT while working all the time. I have to work full time while studying. It's definitely doable, especially if you only work eight hour shifts
I work, come home, eat, shower and study for about there hours and sleep. When I have a day off, I take about half the day to relax and then study hard for the rest of the day. It's doable. With a part time job it should be completely doable.
Yes if you score 30, you scored poorly; you have to make up for a below average MCAT with above average other things. How is my reading comprehension atrocious?Your reading comprehension really is atrocious, isn't it?
I got a 30. Is that doing poorly?
I knew I could do better, so I retook and got a 34.
I worked full time in both scenarios, but I studied smarter and had more of a life the second time.
Look kid, you're trying to prove something here. I have no idea what it is, but I'm pretty sure it's wrong. If your point is that the MCAT is the most important thing in the application, then you're highly mistaken.
Yes if you score 30, you scored poorly; you have to make up for a below average MCAT with above average other things. How is my reading comprehension atrocious?
Note that I never said you were stupid, so I it is not as though I am surprised that you were able to retake and score higher. I will note the common wisdom that retakes are looked down upon by admissions committees; I don't really know if this is true, but it's a moot point anyway. You should have taken it more seriously the first time, and cut down on your work schedule, and you wouldn't have had to (presumably) study for the MCAT a second time, thus wasting time. Also, if you studied the same "smart way" that you did the second time, the first time, would you have scored a 34 still? Do you think the first time, in other words, did not help your score at all? If it did, then the point that you can score a 34 while working full time is slightly weakened, because you didn't simply study while working full time; you studied twice while working full time. Your example alone, then is not enough to prove that you can score well while working full time (but of course, many others before you have anecdotally proven this exact thing).
Yes, my point is that the MCAT is the most important part of your application, at least the most important part of your application that you can influence over the period of one summer. I firmly believe this is correct
My posts to you indicate that I support the fact that working full time is not more beneficial to your medical school application than scoring a few points better on the MCAT, and working less. The only reason I even replied to your posts in the first place is because you were making somewhat disparaging remarks to the people who take a full-time approach to studying for the MCAT (as well as the reason stated after the quote). For example:A 30 is scoring poorly? I'll tell my friends who got into good MD schools with scores in that realm that they should have retaken.
The common wisdom is that it looks bad if you retake and don't do much better and taking it 3 times is looked down upon.
Yeah, I studied twice while working full time a year apart. I had already decided that I wanted to spend more time working before I received my first score back so it was moot anyway. And of course my damn example isn't enough, but there are plenty of people that have worked full time while studying, some even had families (hello non-trads!). I credit my second time to using better study material (TBR vs EK) and to better study habits that TBR forced on me.
Again, I still don't understand what you're trying to say because my freaking point is that you need to be able to handle more than just studying for 3 months straight if you want to do well in med school. Additionally, a blank summer between school years looks really really bad because you have to explain the gap. If you're not doing anything else but studying all summer, then you're doing it wrong. You've come here with a hypothesis and are trying to fit data to that view. Your post to Goro's comments referring to the difference of the two applicants 31 vs 34-35 or whatever reflects that.
Again, I have no idea what you're trying to prove because plenty of people do well while working full time and plenty of people don't. Just like plenty of people do well on the test in general and plenty of people don't. Just based on the pure fact that more people score under 30 than above it, of course you're going to find more people that did worse if they worked full time vs those that didn't. That's just the effect of a normal distribution. The same could probably said of the people that took an entire summer off to study, except now they have a meh MCAT score and no ex-currics for that summer.
I'm glad you believe that the MCAT is the most important part of the application given your seemingly made up data. I can't speak to it because I have no idea which hat you pulled that information out of. I can't comment on your firm beliefs as beliefs can't really be argued with.
I have no idea what we're talking about here anymore and there's so much baseless hand wringing over nothing, so I'm done. What I have learned is that you're incorrigible. So kudos to you.