MCW 2011 part 2

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It didn't post the first time so sorry if this is a double post. I have a chronic Illness. Can someone tell me about MCW's health policy? PPO? Blue Cross??

If you choose the HMO, it's a $10 copay for office visits, no deductible, typical 3-tier drug plan and you can call the school and ask about the formulary if you're on anything funky. You'll get transferred a few times, but someone should be able to answer your questions. Humana has a pretty deep provider list in Milwaukee area, and if you choose one affiliated with MCW, they'll waive the co-pay. That part sounds good except some providers affiliated with MCW "don't see students". But still, a $10 copay is pretty manageable and i just kept my old doctor.

Humana is pretty organized and fair (as insurance companies go) as far as I have seen about approving procedures and hospitalizations (I had them for a few years as a state employee).
 
Humana has a pretty deep provider list in Milwaukee area, and if you choose one affiliated with MCW, they'll waive the co-pay.

I've never had my copay waived, and I've only been to MCW affiliated doctors, except once. That was the only time I was surprised the copay wasn't waived because the dude was a resident with my dad.
 
and if you choose one affiliated with MCW, they'll waive the co-pay.

Hey, I've never gotten it waived, and I go to Sargeant. What the hell.
 
Hey, I've never gotten it waived, and I go to Sargeant. What the hell.

Hey, that's what they told us when we were picking doctors. Now I'm feeling better about keeping mine.
 
I just saw some pretty interesting things done by a very intoxicated classmate of ours. Wow. Alcohol will really cut loose those inhibitions.


Spiderman 3 was pretty good.
 
Okay, more questions.
Do you like the exam schedule? Do you find it less stressful than an exam say every week? I know med school is going to be very hard a stressful. I'm still deciding between schools and am trying to figure out what might be best for my Lupus. How is the curriculum arranged? Topic, organ system random?

Does anyone know the average step I score? How much time off do you get to study for it?

Finally, what is the community of students like? Is there a strong sense of community even though people are living in their own apartments? How do you find a roommate for first year?
 
Okay, more questions.
Do you like the exam schedule? Do you find it less stressful than an exam say every week? I know med school is going to be very hard a stressful. I'm still deciding between schools and am trying to figure out what might be best for my Lupus. How is the curriculum arranged? Topic, organ system random?

Does anyone know the average step I score? How much time off do you get to study for it?

Finally, what is the community of students like? Is there a strong sense of community even though people are living in their own apartments? How do you find a roommate for first year?

I really loved the block exam schedule. Sure, it feels like a finals week every month, but that beats the constant spector of a test looming over you every week. It is also very nice to be able to study new material as it comes instead of playing the academic triage game by studying for the next exam at the expense of keeping up in your other classes. The second year curriculum has moved away a bit from the block exam format, so we have a basis of comparison and I think most of my classmates don't like it as much. Luckily they solicit our thoughts on things like that and I expect them to take steps to make it more in line with the M1 block exam schedule.

Curriculum is considered traditional. You take classes by subject (biochem, development, anatomy, physiology, pathology, pharmacology, etc.) and within those classes things are typically presented according to body system. I find it pretty handy in that you are refamiliarized with the important anatomical and physiological aspects of every body system multiple times over the course of your first 2 years, which might not be the case in newer organ-system based curriculums. Different strokes for different folks though.

The average Step 1 score is just over the national average. We were presented with a breakdown by subject of other MCWers most recent board exams and the only subjects where we fell below the average were in nutrition and (I think) genetics. This is probably because there are no classes or blocks devoted to those subjects--they kind of get tossed into biochem and physiology wherever they can fit them. The prep for phys, pharm, and path for the boards is pretty good, I think. You get 6 weeks between the end of 2nd year and 3rd to study for and take Step 1. Most of us are taking between 3-4 weeks to study and then a couple weeks of vacation. I haven't heard of too many schools giving more time than this to take the Step (maybe UCLA and Duke?)

The student body is great. Most everyone is pretty relaxed and ready to help each other to do well. Everyone seems to find a group of friends that they get along with really well and there are several opportunities via dances and organized parties over the course of the year for the whole class to get together.

Anyways, hope that these comments help, and I'm sure other 2009ers will be happy to provide input after we finish our last final tomorrow morning. Good luck with your decision!
 
Funk, you said it all. I can't think of anything important to add.

If I had a test every Monday, life would be absolute hell for me. I think somewhere around 80% of our class voted for a block exam schedule, so it's very popular, but there are still some that like the other way too. I think their rationale is that they won't procrastinate as much. But I know that for me, it's just not true, and I'd be cramming one subject per week.
 
Do you like the exam schedule? Do you find it less stressful than an exam say every week?
Oh, yeah. An exam every week means I'd neglect every class but that one for the week before that exam, and then be behind on everything else, and then switch to the next one. With blocks, you study everything pretty much equally, and then while it sucks for the week right before exams, the week after exams is glorious.
 
did anyone here have to choose between mcw and u of minnesota? i'd love to hear some pros and cons before i make my final decision! 🙂
 
did anyone here have to choose between mcw and u of minnesota? i'd love to hear some pros and cons before i make my final decision! 🙂

I chose between MCW and both campuses of the U of MN for med school (the Twin Cities campus is my alma mater). Aside from my wife's opinion on where we ended up, some of the things I liked about MCW vs. U of MN was that the campus is exclusively devoted to medical education and that it seemed there was a greater opportunity to do your rotations where you wanted to rather than having them decided for you. I also got a better vibe from the faculty and student body here than at the U of MN where I got the feeling there was a bit of a competitive atmosphere.

On the other hand I think U of MN had videotaped lectures, which would be very nice. We have mp3s of each lecture on the web, but having the chance to see the powerpoint slide that the prof is on would probably be helpful. I also really like the Twin Cities culturally, and think that if you haven't spent time living there yet you could have a lot of fun (probably slightly more than Milwaukee, which is not quite as diverse in how they choose to have fun--i.e. festivals featuring beer and music are the rule).

Both schools seem to do a good job of preparing you for the clinic and each have their own advantages. Good luck on your choice!
 
Genetics was by far my best section on the boards... that's kinda funny. Oh well, you know me, always going against the grain.
 
It seems after your acceptance letter. MCW just leave you alone...why is that?

Though, i get the weekly e-mails from Mike Istwan, one expects them to start sending us stuffs like first year schedule,fin.aid buhaha,immunization/vaccination shenenegens...is this how its gonna be and for how long before they start sending us documents!
 
I think you get a mailing in June and maybe one in July. Really, there's not much else to do before coming to school besides the physical.

I don't think they send you a schedule, if I remember you get a copy on the 1st day. But if you really want to know, it'll be posted online sometime this summer.

Don't worry and enjoy your summer!
 
So my student health insurance runs out next week and if I want free immunizations, now's the time to get it done--does anyone remember which ones they require that a normal college student may not have?
 
So my student health insurance runs out next week and if I want free immunizations, now's the time to get it done--does anyone remember which ones they require that a normal college student may not have?
nothing unique. You might not have had Hep B yet, or your tetanus might need a booster. Otherwise, everything is the standard stuff that all infants/kindergarteners have to get.
 
do they give you a detailed breakdown of how you did?

Not really detailed, but they break it down into categories, and rank your performance in a given area. There is an example in the beginning of First Aid.
 
3 months from today....better start enjoying our freedom now.
 
Xandie,

I think you and I are going to have to anchor these threads for the next few weeks while everyone else is going insane.
 
Xandie,

I think you and I are going to have to anchor these threads for the next few weeks while everyone else is going insane.


Pls,Where can I get the list of books, syllabi and schedule for the incoming year. I really want to look at stuffs before I dumped myself into CANTO 5 of the Inferno.


Pls where do I get one? especially the books needed and the chapters that are most Important.
Also, which class is famous for being the hardest for M1s?
 
Got it... Anchored.

Two weeks left on general surgery, four weeks of CT, then fourth year. We're switching third and fourth year residents on Tuesday/Wednesday... 🙁
 
Pls,Where can I get the list of books, syllabi and schedule for the incoming year. I really want to look at stuffs before I dumped myself into CANTO 5 of the Inferno.


Pls where do I get one? especiallt the books needed and the chapters that are most Important.
Also, which class is famous for being the hardest for M1s?

BIOCHEM, as far as I'm concerned. The biochem department will actually mail you a copy of the syallabus and recommended texts. You'll probably need the current edition of Netter's atlas (currently 4th), and if you want to go nuts, you can get the about-to-be-current edition of Moore's Clinically Oriented Anatomy (right now it's the 6th) and read the blue boxes in the chapters. I wouldn't go nuts pre-studying Devo (human development); it's just not that bad compared to anything else.

All I did was some cursory review of a fairly light biochem textbook before biochem class. And I'm apparently a big, freakin' gunner for doing that much.

Relax and enjoy your final summer. It will all work out in the end, and burning out before you start med school is bad, bad, bad.
 
Pls,Where can I get the list of books, syllabi and schedule for the incoming year. I really want to look at stuffs before I dumped myself into CANTO 5 of the Inferno.


Pls where do I get one? especially the books needed and the chapters that are most Important.
Also, which class is famous for being the hardest for M1s?

M1 psych... hands down. My lowest grade in med school so far.

You get your syllabi during orientation -- do not worry about it before hand.

Your big sib might have books for you too, so don't worry about those either.

I just got games on my PDA!!!! yay!!!! This means I'm going to have to hide my pda from myself so I don't sabatoge my boards score like I did my MCAT by playing bejeweled all day instead of studying.
 
All I did was some cursory review of a fairly light biochem textbook before biochem class. And I'm apparently a big, freakin' gunner for doing that much.

Relax and enjoy your final summer. It will all work out in the end, and burning out before you start med school is bad, bad, bad.

Yeah, I agree biochem is the most notorious, probably followed by phys.

However, you will have plenty of time to worry about med school and how much you should study once it actually starts for you.
If you do anything at all before you start, it should only be minimal, IMHO. I didn't do anything, nor did most people I know, and things turned out fine. Stay sane for now, and enjoy your summer.
 
I just got games on my PDA!!!! yay!!!! This means I'm going to have to hide my pda from myself so I don't sabatoge my boards score like I did my MCAT by playing bejeweled all day instead of studying.

I'm confiscating your PDA on Tuesday.
 
Two questions. One... is it hard to find roommates? I'm considering looking for a 3 bedroom for three roommates. Second, which loan lender does MCW use? I had signed a promissory note for another school. If I withdraw does that then get cancelled?
 
Two questions. One... is it hard to find roommates? I'm considering looking for a 3 bedroom for three roommates. Second, which loan lender does MCW use? I had signed a promissory note for another school. If I withdraw does that then get cancelled?

I'll be going to MCW this fall, and I need a roommate too. I want to find a place within walking distance to school. Maybe we can be roommates if you want to live near school too?
 
I'll be going to MCW this fall, and I need a roommate too. I want to find a place within walking distance to school. Maybe we can be roommates if you want to live near school too?
There are definitely places within walking distance. There are two complexes within walking distance that I can think of (they're both right on Glenview and Harwood), and then a number of flats/small multi-plexes that go up for rent between now and July.
 
Pls,Where can I get the list of books, syllabi and schedule for the incoming year. I really want to look at stuffs before I dumped myself into CANTO 5 of the Inferno.


Pls where do I get one? especially the books needed and the chapters that are most Important.
Also, which class is famous for being the hardest for M1s?


don't don't don't!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 relax and enjoy your summer!!! its all we have left, arse!!!! i'm sure it'll be fine!!
 
Pls,Where can I get the list of books, syllabi and schedule for the incoming year. I really want to look at stuffs before I dumped myself into CANTO 5 of the Inferno.


Pls where do I get one? especially the books needed and the chapters that are most Important.
Also, which class is famous for being the hardest for M1s?

If you must study this summer, i would suggest only studying material for the first exam. There are lots of people who dont do as well on the first exam as they will on future exams just because the transition and learning curve of medical school. So if you must, just study DNA/RNA replication and anatomy of the arm/brachial plexus. Anything else would be too much in my opinion
 
Two questions. One... is it hard to find roommates? I'm considering looking for a 3 bedroom for three roommates. Second, which loan lender does MCW use? I had signed a promissory note for another school. If I withdraw does that then get cancelled?

Yeah, it automatically gets cancelled when the disbursement goes thru for MCW. I had already signed a note for another school, and kept getting mail for a little bit. It was a little confusing because on paper it looked like I was getting loans from both schools, but it was all taken care of for me.

My lender is THE. I think a lot of students use THE or US Bank, but I could be wrong. MCW used to list some "preferred" lenders on the website, I don't know if they still do. You can use whatever lender you'd like, and if you want to use the same lender as you were going to use for the other school, I think you'd have to sign a new note. You can contact the financial aid office for more info though.

As for roommates, I think everyone who wanted roommates found some, but I live alone, so I can't really comment on that much. People largely use the roommate list the school does.
 
If you must study this summer, i would suggest only studying material for the first exam. There are lots of people who dont do as well on the first exam as they will on future exams just because the transition and learning curve of medical school. So if you must, just study DNA/RNA replication and anatomy of the arm/brachial plexus. Anything else would be too much in my opinion


why do they start with the arm?
 
why do they start with the arm?
gotta start somewhere. It's easier to learn than the head and neck, and it would be hard to start dissecting the internal organs first, because that really tears the bodies up (by December, the bodies will look far, far from human).
 
When does the insurance begin for incoming students? I need to get temporary insurance and am wondering when I need to have it end. Thanks
 
Has any of you driven cross country before? I'm thinking of driving to MCW from California. Would any of you know how difficult of a drive that would be, especially the part of the trip where I'd have to cross the Rockies? Thanks.
 
which route are you planning on taking to cross the rockies? I live in Utah and will be driving on I 80 through Wyoming. It isn't as windy as I70 which goes through Colorado. Hope that helps.
 
which route are you planning on taking to cross the rockies? I live in Utah and will be driving on I 80 through Wyoming. It isn't as windy as I70 which goes through Colorado. Hope that helps.

I'm planning on taking I 80. Is it tough to go across Nevada, Utah, and so on by that route? I'll be driving a Toyota Corolla.
 
August 1st, but you won't get your insurance card until classes start.
 
Thanks for the insurance help.

Not a tough drive, but it will be a long drive. Nevada (East of the Sierras) and Western Utah will be boring (desert), but it is a very doable drive.
 
I got Golden Rule through United Healthcare for VERY cheap ($160 for four months) until my wife's insurance started. There was a huge deductible, but just don't go to the doctor. 😀 it was pretty much "disaster only" for the two months after I got married (coverage ends that day) and before my wife's insurance started.
 
Thanks, I have been using assurant, but I will look at what you had.
 
Ok, I've been sitting at work looking up possible apartments. I've got a short list of them. Does anyone have any suggestions, warnings, etc. on any of these? I'd like to stay fairly close to school considering the price of gas and my Jeep's affinity for the substance.

Fairmount Meadows Apartments
Imperial Apartments
Fischer Heights
Historic Lofts on Kilbourn
 
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