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Seriously, what purpose does MDaplicants serve?

Maybe it's only because I'm sub-stellar, but I find it horribly disheartening. It's frustrating for me to see people with god-status statistics getting denied at B-level schools. People that have volunteered more hours than they've been alive, are multiple time peer-reviewed authors and have found an amazon flower that prevents rectal prolapse are getting squashed. Obviously I'm exaggerating (rectal prolapse is...).

My point is that is seems like overqualified people seem to have a tough time during application season. It makes me worry tremendously. I have found it to be motivating, as I feel like I'm way below the curve.

Doe everyone feel this way? Do some people look on MDapplicants and feel reassured that they have nothing to worry about? If so I'll cyberpunch your throat off!
 
Seriously, what purpose does MDaplicants serve?

Maybe it's only because I'm sub-stellar, but I find it horribly disheartening. It's frustrating for me to see people with god-status statistics getting denied at B-level schools. People that have volunteered more hours than they've been alive, are multiple time peer-reviewed authors and have found an amazon flower that prevents rectal prolapse are getting squashed. Obviously I'm exaggerating (rectal prolapse is...).

My point is that is seems like overqualified people seem to have a tough time during application season. It makes me worry tremendously. I have found it to be motivating, as I feel like I'm way below the curve.

Doe everyone feel this way? Do some people look on MDapplicants and feel reassured that they have nothing to worry about? If so I'll cyberpunch your throat off!

lol i feel the same way. it's kind of good though to know what you're up against, and what sort of chances and things you need to do. but yeah i feel like absolute crap when i see a guy with a 40 mcat get rejected from a mid/lower-tier state school. makes me think i have no chance in this lifetime.
 
some schools won't waste their effort interviewing someone they think will just end up going to a better school.

I used to find MDapps disheartening, but now it's a really easy way to find out someone's situation or give your own without constantly repeating numbers.

The interview threads are the worst 🙂
 
I actually find it encouraging...knowing that schools don't always take the top applicants lets me know I have a chance! There is a lot more that goes into the application process than just numbers and hours doing such and such...Doctors are people too and that is what I get from MDApps...

But yes I do get disheartened at times...competition sucks when you don't look like the best!
 
I actually find it encouraging...knowing that schools don't always take the top applicants lets me know I have a chance! There is a lot more that goes into the application process than just numbers and hours doing such and such...Doctors are people too and that is what I get from MDApps...

But yes I do get disheartened at times...competition sucks when you don't look like the best!

I'm an MDapp noob. Maybe I'm still suffering from the initial shock. Hopefully, over time, I'll be able to develop your mature attitude. Right now, it's the scariest thing I've seen in a long time.
 
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i use mdapps to keep track of which secondaries need to be finished.
 
Seriously, what purpose does MDaplicants serve?

Maybe it's only because I'm sub-stellar, but I find it horribly disheartening. It's frustrating for me to see people with god-status statistics getting denied at B-level schools. People that have volunteered more hours than they've been alive, are multiple time peer-reviewed authors and have found an amazon flower that prevents rectal prolapse are getting squashed. Obviously I'm exaggerating (rectal prolapse is...).

My point is that is seems like overqualified people seem to have a tough time during application season. It makes me worry tremendously. I have found it to be motivating, as I feel like I'm way below the curve.

Doe everyone feel this way? Do some people look on MDapplicants and feel reassured that they have nothing to worry about? If so I'll cyberpunch your throat off!

Few things to consider:

MDapps is a small percentage of the overall applicants in a given cycle. Remember that there are 16,000 spots and roughly 40,000 applicants. You can do the math. The number of those people on SDN in a given applicant cycle especially the number putting up mdapps. In fact, even a lot of SDN people don't have mdapps as they don't want info that made public that might give away their anonymity.

That being said, the applicant cycle is crapshoot as cliche as it sounds.

I know people on here who got interviewed with a 30 MCAT score at Harvard people who've gotten in with a 31 at places like UPenn and Cornell, while I know someone with a 35-43 range scores that didn't get into schools like Harvard.

What adcoms of different schools look for is often different and perhaps sometimes people who don't get in may not get in due to being weak in some area of their app or perhaps they came off as arrogant or they had a bad lor somewhere or minimal clinical work. or perhaps the school was looking for someone interested in research vs. someone who wanted to work in a rural setting.

Some of these so called low tier schools might not have accepted the person due to out of state status, or maybe beause they didn't want to work with underserved but rather wanted to be academic physicians. Or perhaps they saw them as people who were most likely not going to matriculate there so there was no point in accepting them or interviewing them when they could interview someone who would be more likely attend their school.

You never know. it is a complex matter.
 
I'm an MDapp noob. Maybe I'm still suffering from the initial shock. Hopefully, over time, I'll be able to develop your mature attitude. Right now, it's the scariest thing I've seen in a long time.

I felt exactly the same way. Then someone pointed out to me that MDapps includes only 5% of the people who are admitted to medical school in any given year. Not so useful to try to extrapolate trends from it. I've made a point of reading/searching it a lot less. I figure there's no need to set myself up for certain demoralization.

It fills out the backgrounds of many of the people who post in these forums, which can be interesting.
 
Its nice to see what types of numbers get accepted to schools, but overall I'm not a huge fan. I have a profile there and every once in a while I get one of those nasty and always anonymous, "why are you bothering to apply to X school with your stats...look at an MSAR and don't waste your money" profile comments. I mean, what kind of insecure lame-o do you have to be to want to anonymously make someone else you don't know feel like crap?
 
The real problem with using MDApplicants is that there is often very crucial information missing that people tend to ignore. Saying that a person had a 34/3.8, didn't get into any of their state schools (ignoring CA), and calling it an atrocity is jumping to conclusions that people do all too often.

Here are a couple of things missing:

1) Interview: We have little to no idea what a person's interview was like. Heck, the actual person doesn't have an objectional idea of what their interview was like. Considering every school interviews applicants at one point and we don't have access to this, it's a HUGE part missing.

2) Personal statement: We never see it. This sometimes is why a person with a 32 is chosen over the guy with a 36 if the latter was cookie-cutter pre-med. Like I remember reading somewhere that Harvard could fill it's entire class with PhDs or people with above 38s if they really wanted to but they don't for good reason.

3) LORs: No access to them. They should be glowing, but even then there are different levels of "amazing".

4) Processing date: Not everyone puts down when they were complete at schools. I think everyone knows the value of having your entire application complete (primary, secondary, LORs, fee) ASAP, so there's a HUGE difference between having everything possible done and have your app complete at a school around July/August compared to October/November.

5) People LIE. 'Nuff said.


I think you can see why MDApplicants shouldn't be taken as a golden standard. While it certainly is a good resource if you take a look at trends (like what type of people get into X school), NEVER base an application to a school on one single profile. Oh, and don't get disheartened by the stats. There are way more people who don't post on SDN than those who do. 👍
 
I agree very much, TheRealMD. I've been thinking a lot about the subjectivity of going to med school, and that's an aspect that obviously isn't fully glimpsed by mdapplicants.com. Whereas with, say, law school, numbers like that, and a brief list of commitments, can be a sound indicator of where you might get in, that's really not as much the case in med school (which tells you something about the difference between lawyers and doctors...).

Of course, things like GPA and standardized test scores are probably THE most important thing of your app, you've gotta consider what just about every school's admissions committee declares is what they look for in applicants: things like leadership, integrity, sense of humanity, etc. That's stuff that doesn't appear so much in the numbers (although it does a little)--more so elsewhere.

Maybe a good rule of thumb is to enjoy mdapplicants.com if it makes you feel warm and fuzzy, and to get the f*ck out if it makes you feel bad about yourself (because it shouldn't).

Love,
Sancho
 
If MDapplicants is making you feel warm and fuzzy, chances are you're bound to start making silly mistakes because you think you are above everyone else. And then you don't get in anywhere. 🙄
 
If MDapplicants is making you feel warm and fuzzy, chances are you're bound to start making silly mistakes because you think you are above everyone else. And then you don't get in anywhere. 🙄
Sí, de veras.
 
MDapps makes me feel suicidal.
 
The real problem with using MDApplicants is that there is often very crucial information missing that people tend to ignore. Saying that a person had a 34/3.8, didn't get into any of their state schools (ignoring CA), and calling it an atrocity is jumping to conclusions that people do all too often.

Here are a couple of things missing:

1) Interview: We have little to no idea what a person's interview was like. Heck, the actual person doesn't have an objectional idea of what their interview was like. Considering every school interviews applicants at one point and we don't have access to this, it's a HUGE part missing.

2) Personal statement: We never see it. This sometimes is why a person with a 32 is chosen over the guy with a 36 if the latter was cookie-cutter pre-med. Like I remember reading somewhere that Harvard could fill it's entire class with PhDs or people with above 38s if they really wanted to but they don't for good reason.

3) LORs: No access to them. They should be glowing, but even then there are different levels of "amazing".

4) Processing date: Not everyone puts down when they were complete at schools. I think everyone knows the value of having your entire application complete (primary, secondary, LORs, fee) ASAP, so there's a HUGE difference between having everything possible done and have your app complete at a school around July/August compared to October/November.

5) People LIE. 'Nuff said.


I think you can see why MDApplicants shouldn't be taken as a golden standard. While it certainly is a good resource if you take a look at trends (like what type of people get into X school), NEVER base an application to a school on one single profile. Oh, and don't get disheartened by the stats. There are way more people who don't post on SDN than those who do. 👍


There's a few other things to add to this list, although this list is good.

1. We know the SDN sample size of who is applying where, but we don't know the whole sample size of the applicant pool enough to determine what everyone is up against.

Even the people you guys would like to call best of the best might not be the best applicant when compared to other applicants who might not even post an mdapps profile on here.

2. to expand on letters, sometimes with these things being confidential you don't know if someone has written you a bad letter.

3. People sometimes have lack of clinical experiences or something else the school thinks is important outside of numbers.
 
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If MDapplicants is making you feel warm and fuzzy, chances are you're bound to start making silly mistakes because you think you are above everyone else. And then you don't get in anywhere. 🙄

Again I'm in total agreement with you. I only look at mdapps insofar as I look at other SDN posters' progress. I like to know how other people are doing and if they are successful I'm happy for them but I don't look to mdapps as a database for advice in my own situation.
 
Again I'm in total agreement with you. I only look at mdapps insofar as I look at other SDN posters' progress. I like to know how other people are doing and if they are successful I'm happy for them but I don't look to mdapps as a database for advice in my own situation.

I have to say that I do look at the MDApps when posters have them available. I guess I look for the successes...especially those of nontrads.
 
I have to say that I do look at the MDApps when posters have them available. I guess I look for the successes...especially those of nontrads.

i totally do that too. i love when you see someone get into their dream school against what they believe are impossible odds.
 
i also like to get an idea of how the process goes (i.e. number of interviews, waitlists that people get) and how many schools people apply to.

i don't there's really any other place that you can do that on a case by case basis. hearing the average number of interviews etc doesn't reassure, but when you see that so and so applied to x,y, and z, and got accepted to z it makes me think that i can do this.

if you look at stats though, that's where you'll drive yourself crazy.
 
Wait are you actually implying that it might be harder to get in to a medical school over a dental school?

Isn't everything equal and great and happy in SDN land?
 
Wait are you actually implying that it might be harder to get in to a medical school over a dental school?

Isn't everything equal and great and happy in SDN land?

I was afraid a PC police was going to call me out. I guess I am saying dental school is, from everything I know, easier to get into. It's in no way meant to be disrespectful. Difficulty with getting in doesn't have anything to do with worth. I just calls them as I sees them.
 
Is it me or alot of people gotten accepted to med schools with slightly lower gpa like 3.4 with a higher mcat like 32
 
I was afraid a PC police was going to call me out. I guess I am saying dental school is, from everything I know, easier to get into. It's in no way meant to be disrespectful. Difficulty with getting in doesn't have anything to do with worth. I just calls them as I sees them.

It seems to me UMP was being sarcastic (second line)
 
Is it me or alot of people gotten accepted to med schools with slightly lower gpa like 3.4 with a higher mcat like 32
there are all combinations out there. if you look at the TX interview thread, everyone has a good GPA and several have an MCAT below 30. obviously TX cares more about GPA
 
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This may have already been said, but I think another thing about the amazing looking applicants on MDapps.com who don't get amazing acceptances is that they apply to only a small subset of schools such as high ranking ones or ones in California.

For ones who apply to low ranking ones too it could be any number of reasons why they didn't get accepted, but I think it seems logical that adcomms wouldn't want to waste seats on people who had applied to a bunch of high ranking schools and seem to be only using their school as a backup.

...or they have no social skills, applied late, poor PS, poor LORs, crooked teeth, whatever
 
I was afraid a PC police was going to call me out. I guess I am saying dental school is, from everything I know, easier to get into. It's in no way meant to be disrespectful. Difficulty with getting in doesn't have anything to do with worth. I just calls them as I sees them.

Having been familiar with UMP, I can say that he is being sarcastic so totally and completely.

And yeah Dental is easier to get into because for one, the DAT is a much easier test to pass then the MCAT as the only hard part is the PAT portion.

The science sections are straight recall and not as complicated as the MCAT science sections.
 
This may have already been said, but I think another thing about the amazing looking applicants on MDapps.com who don't get amazing acceptances is that they apply to only a small subset of schools such as high ranking ones or ones in California.

For ones who apply to low ranking ones too it could be any number of reasons why they didn't get accepted, but I think it seems logical that adcomms wouldn't want to waste seats on people who had applied to a bunch of high ranking schools and seem to be only using their school as a backup.

...or they have no social skills, applied late, poor PS, poor LORs, crooked teeth, whatever

You make a great point. If you apply to schools like HMS and Hopkins and don't balance it out with a few lower tier schools chances are you'll get in few places sometimes because even really good applicants may not be the best of the applicant pool at a given school.
 
I've heard that schools will reject significantly "over-stat" applicants because they know they're a safety school for them, which pretty much dashes the whole safety school concept. If you'll look at those high stat people, they tend to apply top heavy, and those top heavy schools are crapshoots as far as anything goes, so they end up with a lot of rejections.
 
i also like to get an idea of how the process goes (i.e. number of interviews, waitlists that people get) and how many schools people apply to.

i don't there's really any other place that you can do that on a case by case basis. hearing the average number of interviews etc doesn't reassure, but when you see that so and so applied to x,y, and z, and got accepted to z it makes me think that i can do this.

if you look at stats though, that's where you'll drive yourself crazy.

i totally agree. i read previous year applicants' comments about when they completed their PS, their secondary, when they got their interview, and when they heard back etc. it makes the whole application thing easier to visualize in my head (like a timeline). i guess when i read the website, it's not necessarily the end result (accept/reject) I am comparing, it's the process.
 
MDapps used to really stress me out, but I think now I realize each applicant is so different when looking at the "whole package"...there's no point in comparing myself 🙂
 
I am getting frustrated with MDApps just because people don't ever seem to have anything positive/constructive to say (on my profile, at least). I've gotten a zillion comments telling me to add more schools, when I have clearly indicated that I have a lot of (personal) reasons that caused me to apply to the number of schools I did. I think a lot of people who comment on MDApps like to THINK they know everything about the process, and like to THINK that what they say is the golden truth, but in reality I don't think anyone can really know. People seem to think that the number of schools you get accepted to is ALWAYS directly proportional to the number you apply to, when in my opinion it may be just as correlated with the amount of time and effort you put into your secondary essays and into preparing for your interviews.

Just had to vent, sorry, as I just received ANOTHER disparaging comment. I just wish that someone would have something positive to say, or would offer words of encouragement every once in a while....

Sorry about the rant. Hope I didn't offend anyone. 🙂
 
It is nervewracking to see people with 40+ scores waitlisted at JHU and rejected at Harvard. But MDapplicants does not include some important information on the profiles- essays and LORs (unless I missed them [typical], which would not surprise me).

On the other hand, it was a little useful to look at the profiles of people who applied from my specific college. It gave me a couple of things I hadn't thought of in terms of research/volunteering.

On a side note, how important is student research to the schools that are more primary care than research (i.e. not Harvrard et al)
 
I am getting frustrated with MDApps just because people don't ever seem to have anything positive/constructive to say (on my profile, at least). I've gotten a zillion comments telling me to add more schools, when I have clearly indicated that I have a lot of (personal) reasons that caused me to apply to the number of schools I did. I think a lot of people who comment on MDApps like to THINK they know everything about the process, and like to THINK that what they say is the golden truth, but in reality I don't think anyone can really know. People seem to think that the number of schools you get accepted to is ALWAYS directly proportional to the number you apply to, when in my opinion it may be just as correlated with the amount of time and effort you put into your secondary essays and into preparing for your interviews.

Just had to vent, sorry, as I just received ANOTHER disparaging comment. I just wish that someone would have something positive to say, or would offer words of encouragement every once in a while....

Sorry about the rant. Hope I didn't offend anyone. 🙂

Don't worry. I've got 4 interviews and the negativity is non-stop and has possibly increased.
 
People on MDapps with good numbers who get rejected are just idiots. You can be intelligent and have good stats and still be an idiot.

It takes a certain amount of tact to write good essays and interview well. Have you ever hung around typical premeds? A lot of them are lacking in this department. Think about the kind of people that would go around flaunting their numbers like that. They're awkward people that medical schools probably wouldn't want being doctors.

Apply with the numbers you have and try not to be an idiot. That's my advice.
 
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I've gotten a zillion comments telling me to add more schools, when I have clearly indicated that I have a lot of (personal) reasons that caused me to apply to the number of schools I did.

I get a lot of those comments too. Everyone keeps telling me to more schools to my list, when I have no desire to actually go to those schools. Why would I apply if I don't want to go in the first place? It just costs more money, and it's being thrown down the drain. Some of the schools on my list I don't particularly want to go to, but I'd be more comfortable at those schools than schools not on my list.
 
Most of my comments have been positive. I realize I don't have ideal stats for some schools and accept that. I guess we'll just see what happens.
 
I am getting frustrated with MDApps just because people don't ever seem to have anything positive/constructive to say (on my profile, at least). I've gotten a zillion comments telling me to add more schools, when I have clearly indicated that I have a lot of (personal) reasons that caused me to apply to the number of schools I did. I think a lot of people who comment on MDApps like to THINK they know everything about the process, and like to THINK that what they say is the golden truth, but in reality I don't think anyone can really know. People seem to think that the number of schools you get accepted to is ALWAYS directly proportional to the number you apply to, when in my opinion it may be just as correlated with the amount of time and effort you put into your secondary essays and into preparing for your interviews.

Just had to vent, sorry, as I just received ANOTHER disparaging comment. I just wish that someone would have something positive to say, or would offer words of encouragement every once in a while....

Sorry about the rant. Hope I didn't offend anyone. 🙂


I think you have a good shot at your home state school. I think the clinical experience could hurt you a bit but I think that can be remedied if you do some in the coming year and update admissions offices with new things you've done. There was a girl out at Vandy med who had a 42 MCAT or something like that with a 4.0 and only got into Vandy. Didn't get into any other school and she says it in part was due to her lack of clinical experience. it wasn't her interviews or even lack of experiences in other areas but there was a significant lack of clinical experience on her app. Not saying this to scare you. Just to think about. Its one of the reasons are telling you not to shoot yourself in the foot and apply out more places. However, I think you have a good shot at your home state school with your other experiences so that probably won't be as much of an issue.

But in the end its better to talk with adcoms and see what they tell you regarding your chances. With your scores and other experiences as long as your essays and LORs are good then you'll be ok.
 
I get a lot of those comments too. Everyone keeps telling me to more schools to my list, when I have no desire to actually go to those schools. Why would I apply if I don't want to go in the first place? It just costs more money, and it's being thrown down the drain. Some of the schools on my list I don't particularly want to go to, but I'd be more comfortable at those schools than schools not on my list.

People keep telling me the same, but I feel the same way as you. I get a lot of people telling me I can't get into an MD and to go DO (which I would prefer not to do), and that frustrates me considering that I've specifically noted on my profile that I don't want to go that route. A lot of people just can't post something respectful.
 
I think you have a good shot at your home state school. I think the clinical experience could hurt you a bit but I think that can be remedied if you do some in the coming year and update admissions offices with new things you've done. There was a girl out at Vandy med who had a 42 MCAT or something like that with a 4.0 and only got into Vandy. Didn't get into any other school and she says it in part was due to her lack of clinical experience. it wasn't her interviews or even lack of experiences in other areas but there was a significant lack of clinical experience on her app. Not saying this to scare you. Just to think about. Its one of the reasons are telling you not to shoot yourself in the foot and apply out more places. However, I think you have a good shot at your home state school with your other experiences so that probably won't be as much of an issue.

But in the end its better to talk with adcoms and see what they tell you regarding your chances. With your scores and other experiences as long as your essays and LORs are good then you'll be ok.

I guess the reason people are telling you that is because applying to few schools means it's very hit/miss. You might be qualified for the schools you applied to but they might just simply like someone else better (possibly b/c of the clinical exp) I know a girl who applied to one school only in the 2006 admissions cycle (UCSF). She had 4.0/38 and was URM, so that wasn't probably that risky, but im sure she would have been crushed if she hadn't gotten in.
 
I get a lot of those comments too. Everyone keeps telling me to more schools to my list, when I have no desire to actually go to those schools. Why would I apply if I don't want to go in the first place? It just costs more money, and it's being thrown down the drain. Some of the schools on my list I don't particularly want to go to, but I'd be more comfortable at those schools than schools not on my list.

I don't think people who ask that question about why one is not applying to more schools does it with intention of being annoying or anything like that. It is just that sometimes you can't predict whether you'll get in especially if people are hell bent on applying to top heavy schools. Having the stats and even decent ECs don't always win you a spot in a big top 20 med school when there may be people who've gone to IVY leagues, people who'v starred on broadway, people who've been first authors in research, etc. competing with you. When people say apply to more schools it usually means one of two things:

1. They are either warning you of applying to too many top heavy schools because its so crapshoot.

or

2. In cases of people like you and Rachel they may be wondering why you are considering one school over another when your stats could get you past initial screenings in certain top schools. This is especially true of those who have severely high scores and great ECs and profiles but choose to apply to lower tier state schools.

But yes I do see where it could be annoying. What I find more annoying is going on someone's MDapps and finding an anonymous poster posting insulting comments and then not having the guts to identify themselves. Some people in the past have proven to be racists, bigots, amongst other such things on people's mdapps when they've been jealous.
 
I used to use MDapplicant's as a tool, just to get a general sense of where everyone was. They took out the averages, which I liked to use to get a sense of numbers (GPA,MCATs). But it was up until my friend told me that (s)he had made a fake MDapplicants profile, as sort of a joke, knowing that everyone would take it seriously. At the point, I've stopped even going to that website, other than to put my own profile so I can link to others. I should've realized that looking at other profiles, makes me feel like poo while at the same time, wastes time that could otherwise be put into my own application.

Allen

lol i feel the same way. it's kind of good though to know what you're up against, and what sort of chances and things you need to do. but yeah i feel like absolute crap when i see a guy with a 40 mcat get rejected from a mid/lower-tier state school. makes me think i have no chance in this lifetime.
 
I think that, for the most part, MD apps is used by SDN members (gunners) that have something to really be proud about (the gunners of the gunners). Most people with average EC's and stats have no reason to put up a profile on MDapps cause frankly, they got nothing to brag about (im one of those people). And for those with 40's and 3.8's more power to you, you worked hard for those grades, show it off if you want, (its really not overly boastful since the site is anonymous anyway), I'd be proud of myself too.

All in all, dont let mdapps discourage you, those who use it are a tiny minority of the application process, and there is alot more to gaining entrance than numbers and EC's. ie. having a great conversation with your interviewer.
 
My point is that is seems like overqualified people seem to have a tough time during application season. It makes me worry tremendously. I have found it to be motivating, as I feel like I'm way below the curve.

Doe everyone feel this way? Do some people look on MDapplicants and feel reassured that they have nothing to worry about? If so I'll cyberpunch your throat off!

Do I know you? haha... sorry, just saw the location and though you might be one of my friends.
 
Don't let mdapplicnats discourage you-- instead use it as motivation. I remember first looking at all of the stellar applicants and thinking to myself " oh S***." I would have been happier with much less had I not seen the caliber of other past applicants, so I think in the end its helped me become a somewhat competitive applicant at my dream schools.
 
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