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Mean SDNers

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noshie said:
So I posted my MD applicants profile for this cycle and at first I was getting really encouraging comments, but then I started going over to the Allo side to read stuff and started getting very hateful rude comments. Anyways what is up with that? I mean they weren’t just like "try again this year, your stats suck." These people leaving these comments are saying that I am stupid, should never even think about being a physician, and if I do get accepted should turn it down because I would not make a good doctor. Anyways, anyone else getting stuff like this? I'm just about ready to pull my profile from my signature just to stop getting rude comments. And NO I am not complaining, I am just letting off steam. I can truly take critism, I have no problems with getting critical comments. But I really don’t feel that attacking someone’s character counts as constructive critism.
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You realize that some people post these kinds of comments because they too want to get into a particular program you are applying to? The less competition for them, the better. Medical school itself is hard enough, don't get beaten before you even get there. Keep your goal in mind, your head down and screw the rest of the world.

UFC SDN? Little piece of DMU history: we have former UFC contendent here and I sooo want to fight him :laugh: . I think he would kill me...🙁
 
DropkickMurphy said:
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How clever.
 
Dr.Inviz said:
northerner, couldnt come up with somethin better huh? clear sign of being a loser in life.
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No, a clear sign of being a loser in life is getting amusement from messing with people from the Pre-Osteopathic board. Guilty.

Another is responding to things like the hand post at all. Especially considering it doesn't apply, as I am typing responses, not speaking them. I'll draw a diagram to explain it better and post it here later.

DoctorMom78 said:
LMFAO!!!! THAT IS THE FUNNIEST THING I EVER SAW!!!!
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Seriously?
 
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My advice is to get away from md apps, disable your account, not b/c u are a baby, but b/c its a distraction, nothing that anyone can post on there will be that helpful (besides positive stuff).

Even the positive stuff can only help you so much, in my opinion, you need to do the hard work and motivating yourself. You should buckle down, put your social life on hold for the next few months, and I would cut out all other distractions if possible (again this is coming from someone who doesnt know you, only you know best what you need to do increase your chances of getting a high score).

I'll share with you my experience

I enrolled in the princeton review for mcat classes exactly a year ago from june to about april and i planned to take the april MCAT. I scored a 13 on my first diagnostic, and i was scoring low 20's the rest of the way, and i was unhappy with my score. I was taking biochem 2, phyio 2, and some other upper level classes, on top of that i had two positions for two diff clubs, and i didnt read through all of the material in the review books. I decided not to take it, after finals week i took exactly 3 days off and I cracked opened the books again and started from page 1.

I studied all summer, I even traveled with my family to India and Pakistan, and while they went out and shopped and met with family I locked myself in the room and forced myself to study. I didnt leave the house sometimes for a week at a time. In August I felt I did pretty much all I could for the MCAT and when i got my scores back I was ok with it, all 9's, I wish I could have gotten one point higher on each section, but honestly I gave it my all, studied my butt off and dint let myself get distracted.

Sorry for the long rant, but my point was dont give up hope, figure out how you study, and dedicate yourself to it, and hopefully things work out. Goodluck !! I would reccomend while you study not to log onto sdn that much as its a time waster for the addicts (like me)
 
noshie said:
So this was the last post I got:

"ugh don't you get it? we ARE being supportive - by telling you that medicine is not for you!! why would you want to be stuck in a career that will make you miserable? or, if it doesn't make you miserable, makes your *patients* miserable because you're so inept? seriously, you're NOT CUT OUT FOR MED SCHOOL. find something else! peoples' LIVES ARE ON THE LINE and we have enough problem with healthcare as it is, we need to stop hiring incompetent doctors who barely made it into medical school!"


I would like to discuss this posting. What is the deal with people thinking that grades have anything to do with being smart? It has very little to do with being smart and it has alot to do with time management and understanding how to approach the technicality of the tests format. I admit that I am absolutely a B student. I have never made any D's and have less then 10 C's (mostly business classes, only 2 science classes). I have to say that when you get out of medical school you only know the basics. That is when you go out and learn by using hands on experience to gain knowledge. I am a hands on person for sure. I am not completely "book smart” but I am much smarter then many of the people I have met that are book smart. I am overly confident because I have to be, I don’t think anyone would take an unconfident person seriously. I am half book smart and half life smart. I like it that way honestly, I would rather be both then ignore my surroundings and just gain all of my knowledge from reading and memorizing. In my experience with doctors they are not the "all knowing gods" that everyone makes them out to be. They know what they need to know and they are aware that they will always be able to look for the rest if they need to in books, internet or by asking other docs. Everyday I have to google crap for the doctors I work with, and most of them graduated in the top of their med school classes. About 80% of the time they tell me “I have no clue what is wrong with this patient, just make it up.” It does not mean that someone is going to die just because someone does not know exactly what is going on with them. Most of the time people don't die instantly when there is no trauma involved, sometimes you have to make a split second decision, but you get the ability to make these decisions by practice not by reading it in a book. Besides, technology and medicine change rapidly, there is no way for anyone to be able to keep up. It’s like calculus, yeah on the test you memorize the formulas, but when you go out and get a job you can just look them up. I don’t think that having a 3.0 makes you stupid. I am not going to beat myself up for not having incredible grades. I can’t change that, I can only look forward. I appreciate all of the advice posted here, Its very helpful. Thank you for not kicking me when I am down.
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as someone else already said, I think that you should use the horrible criticism tha you are receiving to motivate you to prove these people wrong. Grades do have a lot to do with time management and being able to tackle different testing formats so go into your MS program with the mentality that you are going to get a 4.0. If you go in thinking that you are "absolutely a B student" you may not be able to ever train yourself to study and have the mentality of an A student.

You are clearly very motivated and it seems that you have the drive to get into medical school. If you want it badly enough kick ass in the MS program and perhaps wait to take the mcat after you gain confidence in your study skills. I am looking forward to seeing a post from you next year that will say something like..."hey everyone...remember me? the person who you all thought would never get into med school? well guess what...i got a 4.0 in my MS program and I took the mcat again and received a 30R. I have several acceptances under my belt so F**K all of you who discouraged me from pursuing my dream." Good luck!
 
I have been accused of being a mean SDNer. The problem is that people call me mean when all I do is read the average acceptance numbers for schools to them.

It is in the best interest of schools to make everybody think that they have a chance so that they can roll dough in from secondaries, but there are a ton of people here who blanket apply with unacceptable numbers and then wonder why I rain on their parade when they cry about late interviews, waitlists, or rejections. I'm just trying to save fellow SDNer's some money!

As for being mean, I get tons of abuse cries from people who've never been properly berated by a surgeon. I'm actually quite gentle.
 
To the OP, my suggestion to you is to re-evaluate what you are doing wrong in terms of MCAT. You mentioned you are doing well in school right now so I'm assuming whatever reason you did poorly before (fulltime work perhaps?) is now resolved.

I'm also going to have to disagree with people who say that really low stats don't mean anything.....of course, there are outliers who will have horrible stats, make it into med school and become top of the class, but statistically, you are more likely to do well in med school if you did well as an undergrad and did well on your MCAT.

The same skill sets which made people good premeds also makes good med students. I did know one girl who blew off her undergrad (she went to a tough high school and a not as tough college) and lost her good studying skills, ended up withdrawing from med school b/c she failed all of her exams. But most people did not follow that example. Most used the work ethic and study habits that they had in undergrad and built upon that for med school.

Your MCAT and GPA are indicators to the adcoms on whether you can hack med school. And you can also use that as a personal indicator as to how good your study skills are.

My suggestion to you is to stop worrying about what people on annoymous boards think and focus on improving your stats. Your most immediate concern is your MCAT. Keep taking practice exams until you hit the mid-20's. You will need that much, given your GPA, to have a shot. Also, work on taking as many upper level science courses to up your GPA.

Good luck.
 
As for being mean, I get tons of abuse cries from people who've never been properly berated by a surgeon. I'm actually quite gentle.
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Bingo. If you've never had a trauma surgeon or an orthopod ream your ass for something you may or may not have done- something as simple as asking a question- then you don't know the definition of degradation or abusive treatment. If you can't stand the heat, then stay out of the kitchen. If you can't stand having your ego battered, crushed and otherwise kicked around for the sake of the amusement of your superiors, don't go into healthcare.
 
NonTradMed said:
Your MCAT and GPA are indicators to the adcoms on whether you can hack med school. And you can also use that as a personal indicator as to how good your study skills are.

My suggestion to you is to stop worrying about what people on annoymous boards think and focus on improving your stats.
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Listen to NTM! She has a much nicer rep than me. 😍

They say that I'm being self-righteous when I say stuff like this.
 
Type of Comments given by people on MDAPPs...
Constructive +: Looks like you've got it nailed because of (insert whatever)!
Constructive -: You need to improve (insert whatever stat, EC, activity, etc.)
Destructive +: You'll get into every medical school with a 2.5 and 15 MCAT, just think positively!
Destructive -: What business do you have applying? You need a 3.8 and 39 MCAT to get in. You wasted your money you fool!
 
LifetimeDoc said:
Type of Comments given by people on MDAPPs...
Constructive +: Looks like you've got it nailed because of (insert whatever)!
Constructive -: You need to improve (insert whatever stat, EC, activity, etc.)
Destructive +: You'll get into every medical school with a 2.5 and 15 MCAT, just think positively!
Destructive -: What business do you have applying? You need a 3.8 and 39 MCAT to get in. You wasted your money you fool!
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Way too much Destructive + on this board...
 
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TerpDO said:
I agree with that comment but I think it's mostly in the pre-osteo forum. The Pre-allo forum on the other hand is another battlefield...
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Fair enough. If I were a pre-D.O., I would get soooo damn sick of people on the allo forum posting "Oh man, I have a 2.0 and just got a 15 on my MCAT, but I've always known I wanted to be a doctor, and have lots of shadowing experience via Grey's Anatomy." And then, there's the invariable response of "Oh, you're fine, you'll get into a D.O. school." That's why I think there's too much destructive + out there.
 
HumbleMD said:
Fair enough. If I were a pre-D.O., I would get soooo damn sick of people on the allo forum posting "Oh man, I have a 2.0 and just got a 15 on my MCAT, but I've always known I wanted to be a doctor, and have lots of shadowing experience via Grey's Anatomy." And then, there's the invariable response of "Oh, you're fine, you'll get into a D.O. school." That's why I think there's too much destructive + out there.
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HumbleMD said:
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For once, I'm not trying to pick a fight with y'all over here on the D.O. board. I'm talking more about the gross ignorance many have about D.O. school and admissions.
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I was actually just trying to say, "cool, now let this thread end, it needs to die."

Thanks.
 
I guess I would have done a service to those who received infractions in this thread by closing it earlier but I didn't.

Personal attacks are not tolerated on these moderated forums, if someone is harassing you please report their post so that a moderator can deal with it.

I will close this now before more people get sucked into the flame war
 
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