Med student posing nude on reddit

[oncall77]

Yeah no joke (the link does NOT have any nudity btw):

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...door-pose-nude-exchange-Bitcoins-upvotes.html

I just wanted to get your guys' thoughts. It's some girl named Nina1987 who shows not only her body but her face as well.

Thing is if this chick went to my school she'd be expelled for an honor code violation with the reason being that the code is vague and always favors the administration (the student will never win something like this). I'd agree with it too because if it got out where she went it would likely hurt the reputation of the school which is something extremely important to everyone's future as residencies are very interested in the caliber of the school you went to (not the mention a bad reputation may hurt finances for the school). Also I would feel extremely uncomfortable if she was my or my family members' physician (as I am sure the vast majority of normal people would). She just couldn't be effective in a patient care setting. Hell teachers get fired for glamor modeling so I very highly doubt an aspiring physician could get away with posing nude on the internet.

Also, her comments in the article illustrate that she is stupid...

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[theshellyb]

I'd agree with it too because if it got out where she went it would likely hurt the reputation of the school which is something extremely important to everyone's future as residencies are very interested in the caliber of the school you went to (not the mention a bad reputation may hurt finances for the school). Also I would feel extremely uncomfortable if she was my or my family members' physician (as I am sure the vast majority of normal people would). She just couldn't be effective in a patient care setting. Hell teachers get fired for glamor modeling so I very highly doubt an aspiring physician could get away with posing nude on the internet.

Woah, woah, slow down there buddy. One consenting woman posting pictures of herself on the internet is not going to damage your school's reputation. The school wasn't even mentioned, first of all. Hell, BU had a murderer at their med school and I promise you, people are not looking at the residency applications of BU students and thinking "Hm, well, they did have that one student who murdered someone... better take the Tufts applicant instead"

Why would you feel uncomfortable if she was your physician? How on earth does this relate to her "effectiveness in a patient care setting"?

 

[Planes2Doc]

"Medical student" can mean a lot of things these days. She might not actually be in medical school as we know it.

 

[Didierdrogba]

If she were actually a physician, I'd be happy to have her as my doctor. Whether she posts nude photos of herself online is immaterial as long as she doesn't miss diagnoses and cures whatever illness i might have. Judging a woman based on this is nothing short of male chauvinism

 

[theshellyb]

Judging a woman based on this is nothing short of male chauvinism

Not to mention the OP's statement that

her comments in the article illustrate that she is stupid...

support this assessment of the situation.

 

[rodmichael82]

Yeah no joke (the link does NOT have any nudity btw):

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...door-pose-nude-exchange-Bitcoins-upvotes.html

I just wanted to get your guys' thoughts. It's some girl named Nina1987 who shows not only her body but her face as well.

Thing is if this chick went to my school she'd be expelled for an honor code violation with the reason being that the code is vague and always favors the administration (the student will never win something like this). I'd agree with it too because if it got out where she went it would likely hurt the reputation of the school which is something extremely important to everyone's future as residencies are very interested in the caliber of the school you went to (not the mention a bad reputation may hurt finances for the school). Also I would feel extremely uncomfortable if she was my or my family members' physician (as I am sure the vast majority of normal people would). She just couldn't be effective in a patient care setting. Hell teachers get fired for glamor modeling so I very highly doubt an aspiring physician could get away with posing nude on the internet.

Also, her comments in the article illustrate that she is stupid...

Your post sounds a lot stupid than her comments. How did you get into medical school? I'm thinking legacy.

 

[Didierdrogba]

Hey OP check out this thread that was just started today!

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=1003563

 

[KnuxNole]

Hey OP check out this thread that was just started today!

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=1003563

xD

She didn't associate herself with any medical school, so it's not like she's ruining anyone else's reputation. In hindsight, probably best to not say medical student for the fear of classmates going crazy and feeling like they want to report you. Or to not show your face.

And seriously? One person paints a picture for a class of 100? If I saw one student at XXX school pose nude, I wouldn't think the student body all does this, I'd just assume that ONE person does it at the very least.

Don't be hating cause you can't post nude pics of your own

 

[Sabate]

Hey OP check out this thread that was just started today!

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=1003563

Too perfect! Seriously, why the op cares about this is pretty embarrassing at best...

 

[rodmichael82]

Med students are generally very whiny and judgmental and think things should just be handed to them.In my experience most med students think the world revolves around them. They are very selfish and often think they are better than others. Thing is that they are usually good at hiding these feelings but it comes out eventually.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=1003563

OP posted that on another forum 4 minutes after posting this entire thread about the demise of a school's reputation due to the liberties of an individual and her presumed stupidity based on a couple sentences in the article.

lol unbelievable.

 

[oncall77]

Too perfect! Seriously, why the op cares about this is pretty embarrassing at best...

well having just graduated I can tell you that the behavior that student exhibits is very unbecoming. While it is arguable whether this really will affect a schools reputation I do not think it is arguable that the behavior is unprofessional. Now as I said this person would not be able to teach your children in a school setting... so you think she would be allowed to treat patients????

Yes it is her personal right to do what she wishes but the behavior is suspect and would hinder her ability to be able to provide effective patient care. Imagine a patient in the hospital looking the student up on the internet and finding those pictures while the student is caring for that patient... I seriously don't think you guys who disagree with me have enough experience dealing with patients to have a truly informed opinion. Patients google you before, during, and after your interactions with them.

And yes I agree this person could be lying about who she is. A "medical student" could mean any number of things apart from what we see it as. Regardless it is unprofessional for most people who deal with patients as intimately as physicians including nurses, PT, PAs, etc.

And no I am not misogynistic... that student is stupid because she is completely oblivious to how others may view her behavior, including patients. She clearly is a 1st or 2nd year student with very little patient experience.

 

[rodmichael82]

She clearly is a 1st or 2nd year student with very little patient experience.

Time to be judgmental towards other med students lol this can only get better.
My response to you oncall is the following:-

Med student (oncall77) is generally very whiny and judgmental and think things should just be handed to them.In my experience most med students (especially oncall77) think the world revolves around them. They are very selfish and often think they are better than others. Thing is that they are usually good at hiding these feelings but it comes out eventually (05/09/2013 11:14 PM).

 

[KnuxNole]

Still though...she doesn't post her name, and it's on reddit. Do you think the average patient would even KNOW what reddit is? Other than that one random article, they technically wouldn't find her picture online, and if they Google her name, won't be able to find her nude pic. Even if her first name IS Nina...there are hundreds of chicks named Nina

 

[oncall77]

Time to be judgmental towards other med students lol this can only get better.

...I'm not being judgmental. I'm just illustrating a point that she is acting "stupid" because she does not yet have experience dealing with patients because if she did she likely wouldn't have said what she said.

Still though...she doesn't post her name, and it's on reddit. Do you think the average patient would even KNOW what reddit is? Other than that one random article, they technically wouldn't find her picture online, and if they Google her name, won't be able to find her nude pic. Even if her first name IS Nina...there are hundreds of chicks named Nina

While a 70 yr old patient may not know what reddit is I bet her 20 year old grandson does and when he shows his mom/dad it won't make for a good conversation with the healthcare team. These photos get around. Likely someone in her class has seen it. From the article it doesn't sound like she just posted one photo but is actually a frequent user.

 

[Dom D]

Everybody loves naked chicks. Don't be naive. The most seemingly uptight and conservative female doctor you know probably does stuff much nastier in her bedroom than pose nude.

 

[Didierdrogba]

yeah but the thing is med students will literally whine about pretty much everything.

OP knows best

 

[Didierdrogba]

You would change your story fast if you were dying of cancer and had little to judge her merits... but a handful of nude photos and a diploma. Like most physicians she probably won't be an award winning, well published, academic. You bet your ass you would wonder why she woudl have to resort to that and then you would request a new physician because your ass was on the line. Don't believe me... mature a little bit and learn a little bit more of human nature.

Whatever.

a c/o 2015 trying to teach a c/o 2016 about maturation and human nature, I guess MS2 year and studying for step 1 truly are life changing experiences (sarc.)

man, people are cranky today!

 

[beBrave]

well having just graduated I can tell you that the behavior that student exhibits is very unbecoming. While it is arguable whether this really will affect a schools reputation I do not think it is arguable that the behavior is unprofessional. Now as I said this person would not be able to teach your children in a school setting... so you think she would be allowed to treat patients????

Yes it is her personal right to do what she wishes but the behavior is suspect and would hinder her ability to be able to provide effective patient care. Imagine a patient in the hospital looking the student up on the internet and finding those pictures while the student is caring for that patient... I seriously don't think you guys who disagree with me have enough experience dealing with patients to have a truly informed opinion. Patients google you before, during, and after your interactions with them.

And yes I agree this person could be lying about who she is. A "medical student" could mean any number of things apart from what we see it as. Regardless it is unprofessional for most people who deal with patients as intimately as physicians including nurses, PT, PAs, etc.

And no I am not misogynistic... that student is stupid because she is completely oblivious to how others may view her behavior, including patients. She clearly is a 1st or 2nd year student with very little patient experience.

First, she's an adult; second she has every right to do as she pleases; I honestly don't see how her behavior as a medical school student is going to impact patient care; there is no proven correlation between her performance in Med school and her posting naked pics of herself. No wonder people have this God complex about Doctors, its because Doctors have a god complex about Doctors. "Doctors must rise above the rest", "Doctors must be have the greatest morale's"; all rubbish and lies that empowers sick human beings with some academic talent to commit heinous acts until the law catches up with them.

The truth is, with murderers, molesters and overall sicko's in Med schools all over the place, this young lady is the least of our issues as a society. This thread feels like an "OMG, doctor's have genitalia too". God bless, her. When you have women living in some countries where the idea of them becoming a Doctor is something punishable, while others are forced to wear a burka or something close, I say she has every right express herself however she chooses. It honestly is no one's business. Hey guess what! compared to so many others she's honest with herself and clearly has nothing to hide. I wonder how many others even on SDN could attest to that. I wonder if this had been a man, would people really care as much?! People (prudes) need to move on and focus on their own lives. I bet 10 years from now if someone comes into an emergency room feeling like death is saying "hello", they would beg this young woman to treat them and not even think twice about some pics of her on reddit. Also chances are no one would even know who she was.

 

[oncall77]

...LINK to her reddit profile... warning NSFW

just fyi I would delete your link because it's against the rules of the site to post links to stuff like that. And I will say after having looked briefly at the link that she's pretty much posting straight up pornography...

I think she goes to GWU from my research thus far

How did you find that out so fast?

First, she's an adult; second she has every right to do as she pleases; I honestly don't see how her behavior as a medical school student is going to impact patient care; there is no proven correlation between her performance in Med school and her posting naked pics of herself. No wonder people have this God complex about Doctors, its because Doctors have a god complex about Doctors. "Doctors must rise above the rest", "Doctors must be have the greatest morale's"; all rubbish and lies that empowers sick human beings with some academic talent to commit heinous acts until the law catches up with them.

The truth is, with murderers, molesters and overall sicko's in Med schools all over the place, this young lady is the least of our issues as a society. This thread feels like an "OMG, doctor's have genitalia too". God bless, her. When you have women living in some countries where the idea of them becoming a Doctor is something punishable, while others are forced to wear a burka or something close, I say she has every right express herself however she chooses. It honestly is no one's business. Hey guess what! compared to so many others she's honest with herself and clearly has nothing to hide. I wonder how many others even on SDN could attest to that. I wonder if this had been a man, would people really care as much?! People (prudes) need to move on and focus on their own lives. I bet 10 years from now if someone comes into an emergency room feeling like death is saying "hello", they would beg this young woman to treat them and not even think twice about some pics of her on reddit. Also chances are no one would even know who she was.

No one is saying she doesn't have the right to do what she wants. However there are professional standards that need to be met because there are very few professions that have the extremely intimate relationships with people that physicians have. As a physician you will will do things to people and people will allow you to do these things that they would never allow others to do (physical exams, giving them medications, surgery, etc). As such schools have strict honor codes because it is understood that patients would never want a med student who is a poses for porn on the side to treat them. Most patients are 50+ and want someone who is extremely professional and cares about them. It's a whole different ballgame when you are talking about peds and dealing with parents.

So bro I highly suggest you grow up. Just because a person has the right to do something doesn't mean that is is OK to do. Teachers are not allowed to pose nude. It hinders their ability to do their jobs. Now a physician is in a different situation (when finished with training) because while it may be against the policy of an institution/group to do these things there is no law against that person going into a practice situation which wouldn't care... Thing is I bet most practice institutions/hospitals/physician groups would care... and if a patient found out it would be an issue. Also this person is a medical student and as such is subject to school rules at this stage. Students very seldom win against a school's decision.

It is arguable whether this would cause her to get expelled or, if she was employed, fired for these actions unless there were specific rules in the contract/honor code. In my opinion it could constitute grounds for dismissal. I understand that others would disagree and that you could also potentially lose in court if there is nothing in the contract that could be construed as prohibiting it.

Regardless the behavior is very unprofessional and I think the very vast majority of patients would not want this person caring for them. It is what is. She is free to make her own decisions. I just think she's stupid.

 

[beBrave]

just fyi I would delete your link because it's against the rules of the site to post links to stuff like that. And I will say after having looked briefly at the link that she's pretty much posting straight up pornography...



How did you find that out so fast?



No one is saying she doesn't have the right to do what she wants. However there are professional standards that need to be met because there are very few professions that have the extremely intimate relationships with people that physicians have. As a physician you will will do things to people and people will allow you to do these things that they would never allow others to do (physical exams, giving them medications, surgery, etc). As such schools have strict honor codes because it is understood that patients would never want a med student who is a poses for porn on the side to treat them. Most patients are 50+ and want someone who is extremely professional and cares about them. It's a whole different ballgame when you are talking about peds and dealing with parents.

So bro I highly suggest you grow up. Just because a person has the right to do something doesn't mean that is is OK to do. Teachers are not allowed to pose nude. It hinders there ability to do their jobs. Now a physician is in a different situation (when finished with training) because while it may be against the policy of an institution/group to do these things there is no law against that person going into a practice situation which wouldn't care... Thing is I bet most practice institutions/hospitals/physician groups would care... and if a patient found out it would be an issue. Also this person is a medical student and as such is subject to school rules at this stage. Students very seldom win against a school's decision.

It is arguable whether this would cause her to get expelled or, if she was employed, fired for these actions unless there were specific rules in the contract/honor code. In my opinion it could constitute grounds for dismissal. I understand that others would disagree and that you could also potentially lose in court if there is nothing in the contract that could be construed as prohibiting it.

Regardless the behavior is very unprofessional and I think the very vast majority of patients would not want this person caring for them. It is what is. She is free to make her own decisions. I just think she's stupid.

True growth is when we are able to stop projecting our own beliefs and see beyond our own perspectives. Before you respond all high and mighty, take a moment, step down from mount Olympus and just this once, think about it. You might be amazed by the things you come to realize all on your own.

 

[deleted307836]

If she really is a medical student, I doubt she's American. I can't see how any student in this country would take that risk considering how uptight we are about this stuff in conjunction with the high cost of tuition... Just a guess.

 

[KnuxNole]

That would make sense. It also would be interesting to know if other countries are more lax and normal about these scenarios. After all, most normal people know that someone who posts nude pics is capable to being a good physician. Sadly, the highly conservative people aren't able to comprehend such facts :/

Honestly, if she didn't say she was a med student, this wouldn't even be an issue. I understand the high standards society puts on certain professions, and while my personal opinions differ, I can see where people are coming from. While I don't suggest that everyone takes pictures of themselves naked and shares them with the world, if someone feels like they do that for enjoyment...I would just shrug and continue on. After all, it's not like she's the only med student to ever do this...just one that was found!

 

[bangarang]

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[Didierdrogba]

She has the right as a human being to post her nudes. That being said, medical students are generally held to a higher standard, especially by the medical community. It's unprofessional behavior. I guarantee you no administrator would shrug off hearing about one of their students posting their nudes online. I doubt she's a medical student, but if she were, she's got to have some huge testicles to pull this off, bro. /thread

very interesting point. why are physicians and medical students held to a higher standard anyways? Teachers can't post nudes because their jobs involve working directly with children and being their role models. Likewise, obviously we can't have substance abuse problems due to us working with substances, and obviously we can't assault or compromise patients. But other than things like those, why care about what we do in our personal life? it should really be non of other people's business. Just because our job is to cure illnesses doesn't and shouldn't mean that we are highly moral beings who are children's role models. We are professionals, and in essence we are no different from professionals in other fields. Professionalism should end at whenever we clock out. IMHO

 

[bangarang]

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[thepoopologist]

I think it'd be awesome to have some hot big boobed doctor correctly diagnose and treat me, and then be able to go onto reddit and check out her photos. $40 copay? Whatever, sign me up.

 

[534455]

Also, her comments in the article illustrate that she is stupid...

Wowwwww, I am absolutely stunned at your comments! Where do you get off on judging her like that? As if you did not do something in your life that....

oh wait, you're 23, what have you done in life?

Get over yourself. You might learn a thing or two from her by enjoying life more, relaxing, being more of a daredevil and pushing the envelope. You pronouncing judgements about people make YOU more of an ineffective doctor than her! Yes, we all have judgments but it's a far different thing than broadcasting them and expecting people to join you.

It is not our responsibility to be judging our patients. It is our responsibility to care for them, bandage them up, and then allow them to live their lives as they see fit. We are going to be caring for alot of different types of people. Judging them is not part of the role!

There are a large number of MD Students, Residents, Fellows and Attendings who begrudge not having had a personal life prior to entering medical school. This chick is fantastic, courageous and would appear to be a very gifted at playing the piano! Woo hoo!

She is probably having MORE fun as an MD student than most.
Good for her!

Oh and by the way, I have posed as well in my earlier life and it did not stop employers from hiring me, multiple schools accepting me, and priests giving me Communion. Have I encountered judgments? Yup. They were never part of my life as it was so I couldn't have cared less. If anything I strutted my stuff in front of them even moreso just to rattle them.

We all have a past, and it makes life that much more colorful.

Heck we should start a thread on "what cool / naughty skeletons do you have in your skeleton?"

I found the article Daily Mail UK about Boy George getting personal attention from the store more scandalous just b/c the shoes he/she bought did not fit him/her and he/she decided to tweet about it!

How do I get that kind of service?

 

[kedrin]

very interesting point. why are physicians and medical students held to a higher standard anyways? Teachers can't post nudes because their jobs involve working directly with children and being their role models. Likewise, obviously we can't have substance abuse problems due to us working with substances, and obviously we can't assault or compromise patients. But other than things like those, why care about what we do in our personal life? it should really be non of other people's business. Just because our job is to cure illnesses doesn't and shouldn't mean that we are highly moral beings who are children's role models. We are professionals, and in essence we are no different from professionals in other fields. Professionalism should end at whenever we clock out. IMHO

I've read through your comments thus far and find you lacking in the logic department, especially this post. Your need for personal morals and ethical responsibility as a physician is much higher than other professions. We are much, much different than other professions. Also note that while our private lives should not be any of our patients business this woman is posting up her self naked on a website viewed by millions each day. She is making her private life into a public life by choice just like politicians do.

You call someone a male chauvinist for judging a female who posts naked pictures of herself? seriously? If you post up naked pictures of yourself, become a stripper, and anything of the sort I am pretty sure you are fair game to be looked at based on your appearance. There is no male superiority implied behind this, if a female looked at a magazine and thought oh hey that dude is hot or blah blah blah that is not chauvinism either.

This is the real world here, let me welcome you to it.

 

[deleted480308]

This isn't a Nathaniel Hawthorne novel, it's a young woman's life...leave the poor girl alone

 

[ijn]

She is an idiot. Yeah, in the ideal world we should be able to post our junk online without consequence. I'd be all for that, in fact. But we are a conservative profession by nature and **** ain't changing. Since she is completely incapable of grasping that reality, it is doubtful she has the maturity to become a doctor. Good riddance. Stone her!

Stick to sexting your boyfriend naughty photos (preferably without your head visible).

 

[SlickNickMD]

She shouldn't have been dismissed for this. We live in a world where people are judged harshly based on how they choose to express themselves sexually. The bottom line is if she is in good academic standing, and has earned and paid for a spot in med school these aren't grounds to take that away from her.


Those who claim there are male chauvinistic undertones in this are looking at it on the surface. It is males not females that traditionally dictate what is acceptable female expression of sexuality or not, and more times than not we do this hypocritically. In some places like Europe this may not have been as big of a deal, in very conservative nations in the middle east this behavior could get you stoned.

 

[tiedyeddog]

Don't you have more important things to worry about?

 

[greatnt249]

And...Burnett's law rears its ugly head once again.

Regardless, mind your business, OP. If she wants to post her goods and personal information for the world to see, so be it; she has to deal with the ramifications.

 

[Salinas]

Yeah no joke (the link does NOT have any nudity btw):

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...door-pose-nude-exchange-Bitcoins-upvotes.html

I just wanted to get your guys' thoughts. It's some girl named Nina1987 who shows not only her body but her face as well.

Thing is if this chick went to my school she'd be expelled for an honor code violation with the reason being that the code is vague and always favors the administration (the student will never win something like this). I'd agree with it too because if it got out where she went it would likely hurt the reputation of the school which is something extremely important to everyone's future as residencies are very interested in the caliber of the school you went to (not the mention a bad reputation may hurt finances for the school). Also I would feel extremely uncomfortable if she was my or my family members' physician (as I am sure the vast majority of normal people would). She just couldn't be effective in a patient care setting. Hell teachers get fired for glamor modeling so I very highly doubt an aspiring physician could get away with posing nude on the internet.

Also, her comments in the article illustrate that she is stupid...

To the OP, how do you know about this? Was this chick an ex gf that dumped you or something? Seems like a lot of effort to go about posting this without some sort of reason.

While I would never put up pics like this on the internet, I cannot speak out against girls showing off their boobs. That would just be too hypocritical. Godspeed Nina, and good luck with surgical rotations--you're gonna need it.

 

[CDI]

She is an idiot. Yeah, in the ideal world we should be able to post our junk online without consequence. I'd be all for that, in fact. But we are a conservative profession by nature and **** ain't changing. Since she is completely incapable of grasping that reality, it is doubtful she has the maturity to become a doctor. Good riddance. Stone her!

Stick to sexting your boyfriend naughty photos (preferably without your head visible).

Best response yet...

 

[CDI]

Funny ppl get so worked up over a person without clothes on...we are in medicine, right?

I wonder how the response would be if she was much less attractive...or if any response at all.

 

[Chemdude]

Wow. I'm shocked. I'm 99% sure that this girl goes to my school. I've seen her on campus.

Edit: I take that back. I'm imagining things. I checked the directory and there are no Nina's at our school.

 

[GUH]

1) Meh. She kinda looks like a hispanic Sarah Silverman.
2) She is probably not a medical student anyways. Everyone likes to say they're doctors or med students.

 

[oncall77]

To the OP, how do you know about this? Was this chick an ex gf that dumped you or something? Seems like a lot of effort to go about posting this without some sort of reason.

While I would never put up pics like this on the internet, I cannot speak out against girls showing off their boobs. That would just be too hypocritical. Godspeed Nina, and good luck with surgical rotations--you're gonna need it.

dude I have no idea who this girl is, whether she's a medical student, a podiatry student, a nursing student, a stripper... I just saw the article on that website and saw that one of the favorites was a "medical student".

Also I will say I am surprised by some of you people here supporting this kind of action. While a physician does not equal a teacher necessarily we are definitely held to higher standards. You think parents would expect more of their child's teacher than their child's pediatrician? Hahaha give me a break man. As I said people allow physicians to do life changing things to them no one else can (e.g. surgery) and it is important to patients that their physician is not only knowledgeable but also mature and professional. The behavior this girl exhibits is neither of the latter.

Again she has a right to do what she wants. It is not against the law to post naked pics of yourself online if you are of the right age. However I do question the level of professionalism she possess when she does. She does not appear to have thought of the consequences this could have if a patient saw them. And I can assure you the large university system I will be doing residency at would not tolerate this behavior from one of its physicians for better or worse. The medical school definitely would not tolerate it from one of its students.

And why is this even important? Why is this an issue? Because physicians are in a place of power and control over their patients and unprofessional behavior is unacceptable. Two stories of behavior which have resulted in severe penalties for residents: 1. a pgy5 surgery resident took a picture of a guy's tatoo on his penis during an operation and posted it to facebook. Resident was severely repremanded though allowed to complete his training. 2. an obgyn resident bovied her initials in a patient's uterus during an operation. The resident was fired.

Now does posting nude pics of yourself online equate to either of the prior two examples? Well not necessarily. But what it does point to a pattern of behavior which is considered unprofessional and a result calls into question her judgment and ability to be professional for her entire career (many many years likely) in a patient care setting.

 

[DrEnderW]

Get a life OP.

Threads like this make me want to delete my account.

 

[beBrave]

She is an idiot. Yeah, in the ideal world we should be able to post our junk online without consequence. I'd be all for that, in fact. But we are a conservative profession by nature and **** ain't changing. Since she is completely incapable of grasping that reality, it is doubtful she has the maturity to become a doctor. Good riddance. Stone her!

Stick to sexting your boyfriend naughty photos (preferably without your head visible).

I thought about it before referencing this and decided that it was worth bringing up. If you read the mothers description of her daughter, she sounds like she would have been on the path to becoming a distinguished physician. Despite appearing happy, she described being depressed all her life until she ultimately ended it. You along with OP would crucify Nina if you could. You don't know any other details about her life, and for you the other details apparently wouldn't matter.

Part of being a Doctor is being a human being; the Doctor's who forget this are the one's that you see slumping miserably around the hospital (they look like all hope has faded). Being a Doctor is a profession, not a path into an order of those sworn to be model citizens, and uphold truth, Justice and the American way. If physicians actually upheld that last part, then they would easily break the Hippocratic oath as American ideals are far from unbiased. Depression in Med school and during residency is so predominant that there is study after study monitoring this because it affects patient care.

I remember an episode of scrubs where Elliot began criticizing Carla (the experienced nurse) and implied that her behavior (the way she acts and dresses) may affect her ability to treat patients. Carla cut her down quickly and explained that there was no correlation between the way she dress and behaves with the way she treats patients and pointed out that maybe she needed to do something spontaneous (in her case where a thong) every so often because she needs it especially working in an environment where she does.

If you understand women, then you know that all women want to look and feel beautiful; attending medical school does not remove the ovaries, result in a mastectomy, hysterectomy and hormonal therapy to strip away their humanity. This girl has a long path ahead of her, maybe posting pictures like these help her to remain confident about herself and still feel like a human being; It's easy to feel abandoned while on the path to Medicine; you often lose contact with friends and family for long periods of time even if they live close by because of the nature of the profession. When seeing a Doctor, I prefer someone who is not a total stuck up a**hole. Most people on here know the kind of Doctor that I am talking about, they come into the room looking like doom and gloom and then tell you that that there nothing wrong with you while using the kind of tone and demeanor you might expect if someone was dying. A good Doctor is a person that values life and above all else their own life.

Doctor's are human beings; they have pay taxes (or go to jail), have relationships with the opposite sex (supposedly some may have them in the hospital while the patients are there) and every couple hours experience the need to urinate and have bowel movements. They receive no special training in psychology. People trust honesty; someone who is honest with themselves will be honest with others. Someone like Nina may be able to connect on a personal level with patients, give reassurance and smile from time to time while someone who wears a white coat even when they sleep might be someone who carelessly see's patients as charts and nothing more. When you get older you discover how imperfect the world is, if you don't carve out something for yourself, then someone else will take your place and you will be left just existing. Nina posting nude pics might also help her work through limiting beliefs that so many people place upon themselves. As long as its not hurting anyone or directly affecting her ability to perform her profession, then its irrelevant. Have some respect, you have no business calling her an idiot or anything of that nature. You don't know her personally and you really need to spend more time looking at your own life instead of judging the lives of others.

dude I have no idea who this girl is, whether she's a medical student, a podiatry student, a nursing student, a stripper... I just saw the article on that website and saw that one of the favorites was a "medical student".

Also I will say I am surprised by some of you people here supporting this kind of action. While a physician does not equal a teacher necessarily we are definitely held to higher standards. You think parents would expect more of their child's teacher than their child's pediatrician? Hahaha give me a break man. As I said people allow physicians to do life changing things to them no one else can (e.g. surgery) and it is important to patients that their physician is not only knowledgeable but also mature and professional. The behavior this girl exhibits is neither of the latter.

You have a God complex. You've posted only a few times but already dismiss the opinions of seasoned users; you are surprised that some opinions don't match your own. Any further discussion is pointless as you already have a model in your head of the way things should be rather than the way things really are.

 

[Chemdude]

You have a God complex. You've posted only a few times but already dismiss the opinions of seasoned users; you are surprised that some opinions don't match your own. Any further discussion is pointless as you already have a model in your head of the way things should be rather than the way things really are.

Are you unaware of the consequences of posting nude pictures of yourself online? Unless you work in the adult entertainment industry, posting nude pics of yourself is never a good idea. It has nothing to do with her being a medical student. She is dumb; she's ruining her professional life by making stupid decisions in her personal life.

 

[greatnt249]

Also I will say I am surprised by some of you people here supporting this kind of action.

I didn't say I supported it; I said it was no business of yours, and that she's the one who bears responsibility for her actions.

1. a pgy5 surgery resident took a picture of a guy's tatoo on his penis during an operation and posted it to facebook. Resident was severely repremanded though allowed to complete his training. 2. an obgyn resident bovied her initials in a patient's uterus during an operation. The resident was fired.

You said so yourself; the situations are not equivocal. Then why make the comparison?

 

[beBrave]

Are you unaware of the consequences of posting nude pictures of yourself online? Unless you work in the adult entertainment industry, posting nude pics of yourself is never a good idea. It has nothing to do with her being a medical student. She is dumb; she's ruining her professional life by making stupid decisions in her personal life.

Wow, well I'm glad you're honest. You make it clear that this goes far beyond the profession of medicine and is something that no person should do whatsoever because its just socially unacceptable. Stop and listen to yourself for a moment. I'm beginning to see why older people avoid these discussions. You can only learn some lessons through living. This girl doesn't have a lot to worry about for a couple of reasons; first most people will never see the pics, secondly in the rare case someone does, she simply says "oh its not me"; most people would be too scared to even touch upon the subject. She is not dumb, getting in Med school means you aren't dumb; now maturity on the other hand is something that med school doesn't always do a good job of screening for; don't get me wrong though, I don't think she's immature, rather I think closed minded individuals are the most immature.

 

[Chemdude]

Wow, well I'm glad you're honest. You make it clear that this goes far beyond the profession of medicine and is something that no person should do whatsoever because its just socially unacceptable. Stop and listen to yourself for a moment. I'm beginning to see why older people avoid these discussions. You can only learn some lessons through living. This girl doesn't have a lot to worry about for a couple of reasons; first most people will never see the pics, secondly in the rare case someone does, she simply says "oh its not me"; most people would be too scared to even touch upon the subject. She is not dumb, getting in Med school means you aren't dumb; now maturity on the other hand is something that med school doesn't always do a good job of screening for; don't get me wrong though, I don't think she's immature, rather I think closed minded individuals are the most immature.

You seem to have a pretty fantasized image of medical school. People in medical school may be intelligent, but they don't always make the right decisions. Online behaviour can have a huge impact on your professional life.

 

[ebbandflow83]

She is an idiot. Yeah, in the ideal world we should be able to post our junk online without consequence. I'd be all for that, in fact. But we are a conservative profession by nature and **** ain't changing. Since she is completely incapable of grasping that reality, it is doubtful she has the maturity to become a doctor. Good riddance. Stone her!

Stick to sexting your boyfriend naughty photos (preferably without your head visible).

Are you unaware of the consequences of posting nude pictures of yourself online? Unless you work in the adult entertainment industry, posting nude pics of yourself is never a good idea. It has nothing to do with her being a medical student. She is dumb; she's ruining her professional life by making stupid decisions in her personal life.

Even with the overwhelming support for this girl in the thread, I still find the perspective of the OP and others who support the OP aggravating. The line that gets me the most is, if I can paraphrase, sure it should be ok, but it's not accepted, so it's not ok. This is the most dishonest side you can take in an argument. If it should be ok, fight for it. Speak out against systemic injustice. Don't hide your disapproval behind societal acceptance, or lack thereof. Don't assume that your cynicism absolves you from doing the right thing.

Should a med student be kicked out of school for cheating on a significant other? Making a sex tape with a girlfriend that is leaked onto the internet? Would that breach some sort of vague "professionalism" code. Or would it actually have nothing to do with how that person acts when they are in the hospital, and more to do with your own personal views on morality? Nudity, male or female, is nothing to be ashamed of. If she did/does receive any disciplinary action for this, I hope that she takes the offending institution to court.

And I won't even respond to the attempt to conflate an obvious HIPAA violation and unnecessary procedure with what this girl did because of how ridiculous the comparison is.

 

[beBrave]

You seem to have a pretty fantasized image of medical school. People in medical school may be intelligent, but they don't always make the right decisions. Online behaviour can have a huge impact on your professional life.

Lets avoid letting this become a flame thread. You call my image of medical school as fantasized however you are speaking about life in general and not limiting your opinion specifically to medical school. I could just as easily say that you have a "pretty fantasized image" of life. I made the same argument that medical school may equate to measuring intelligence but it doesn't always measure maturity however as I further stated, how one defines maturity will vary from person to person.

Online behavior can (key word is can not will) have a huge impact on professional life however Medical school is still a school; just like a student is unlikely to get kicked out of Harvard because she poses nude pics online, a Med school student is unlikely to be kicked out for the same reason. A Medical school student and Resident are two very different things; one has signed a contract and has certain legal obligations to the employer while the other is paying a significant amount of money to complete their education. A medical school student may have some exposure the patients but they are student Doctors and there to observe not diagnose.

Being direct, you have no right to judge her; It bugs me that you don't really seem to see her as a person because she doesn't meet your ideals. You easily belittle her; insult her and have no consideration for who she is as a person. You express nothing but arrogance and intolerance. It's her life and she should live it to the fullest, so many of us are so miserable with our own lives, if it makes her happy, or feel confident or helps her get through her day or is simply something she does when she's bored, then good for her. You should keep your closed minded thoughts to yourself. If you cannot openly discuss things from an unbiased perspective, then debating is pointless as you will just keep arguing one point over and over.

 

[Didierdrogba]

I've read through your comments thus far and find you lacking in the logic department, especially this post. Your need for personal morals and ethical responsibility as a physician is much higher than other professions. We are much, much different than other professions. Also note that while our private lives should not be any of our patients business this woman is posting up her self naked on a website viewed by millions each day. She is making her private life into a public life by choice just like politicians do.

You call someone a male chauvinist for judging a female who posts naked pictures of herself? seriously? If you post up naked pictures of yourself, become a stripper, and anything of the sort I am pretty sure you are fair game to be looked at based on your appearance. There is no male superiority implied behind this, if a female looked at a magazine and thought oh hey that dude is hot or blah blah blah that is not chauvinism either.

This is the real world here, let me welcome you to it.

Let me start off by saying I know there is a real word there. worked after college before medical school. Whereas you people who disagree with her actions just use it as an argument to somehow prove that you know better, even though you have probably no real life experience. Don't you guys have a better argument to make?

I should pity your inability to think critically, not the other way around. I am at a loss of words at how to counter your stupidity. You make assumptions and logical leaps. How does posting naked photos of yourself make you a stripper? A stripper is one who performs naked dances at a strip club for money, has she done any of that? Comparing politicians and doctors is also not valid, since politicians are elected officials, the nature of their job calls for public scrutiny of their personal lives, and doctors are in a completely different boat. OH and yes, the logic of the last sentence in the second paragraph is nonexistent as well, that is exactly what sexual objectification is. So basically you have zero valid point in your post, nice try.


I honestly don't think all of a sudden we become saints and everyone should look up to us since we are in medical school and have life saving duties. It's just a job

 

[calvnandhobbs68]

lol at all the pre-meds arguing on here.

Anyway, in real life if she was in medical school and if her administration ever got wind of something like this, you can bet they'd be bringing her in for a little "professionalism" talk. I'm not sure they'd do anything about it though...they'd probably just tell her that posting naked pictures of herself online isn't such a great idea.

Also, I wouldn't think it'd be such a rare possibility for some PD or resident to have seen her on reddit...just sayin .

 

[KnuxNole]

ITT: People get mad at something that would never affect their life