Med student posing nude on reddit

[Rendar5]

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MS3 bitch lol

Attending bitch =p My only question to her on the phone would be, "so are you accepting my admission or not?"

 

[survivordo]

Comparing politicians and doctors is also not valid, since politicians are elected officials, the nature of their job calls for public scrutiny of their personal lives, and doctors are in a completely different boat.

I honestly don't think all of a sudden we become saints and everyone should look up to us since we are in medical school and have life saving duties. It's just a job

Like it or not this is unfortunately the case. Being a doctor or a lawyer or a part of any other profession brings with it the expectation that you will behave accordingly. This doesn't mean you can't be an "individual" or whatever you tell yourself to feel special, it just means that you have to act in a way that will not bring shame upon the profession. I would say posting naked pics of yourself and identifying yourself as part of the profession is at the very least toeing the line. However, in this case she is hot, so I will allow it.

Survivor DO

 

[Textbookversion]

However, in this case she is hot, so I will allow it.

👍

 

[oncall77]

Get a life OP.

Threads like this make me want to delete my account.

lol go ahead.

You have a God complex. You've posted only a few times but already dismiss the opinions of seasoned users; you are surprised that some opinions don't match your own. Any further discussion is pointless as you already have a model in your head of the way things should be rather than the way things really are.

Dude, 1. forgive me if, as a student who literally just graduated from medical school, I don't bow down to people who post on this site more often... and 2. you are pre-med and have never actually been in a setting where people are looking at you as their doctor and you would have information to provide as such (yes, patients often times don't know the difference between "medical student" vs "student doctor" vs "doctor" and no, shadowing doesn't count). As such you really have no basis in countering my points of professionalism being a integral part of being a physician with your points of doctors are humans. Both are true and both are necessary. But to be human you don't have to sacrifice your professionalism which is a point you are missing.

also your points are women wanting to feel beautiful is pretty funny. I guess Kim Kardashian is the same in how she just wanted to feel pretty so that's why she sold her sex tape. Or that 'teen mom' chick making a sex tape and then selling it trying to get famous. Both of those girls are pure trash and this med student is no different.

You said so yourself; the situations are not equivocal. Then why make the comparison?

So... if you read literally what I said just after that you would not have had to make that comment. I said this student's behavior points to a pattern of unprofessional behavior that likely can be found in many other aspects of her life. She believes that is is ok to post nude pictures online of herself (true, as other people may have the same thoughts as well) but then actually goes and posts many graphic photos on a high-traffic site (something I'd bet the vast majority of people defending her would never ever do). It points to a thought process that is not in line with what is professional as is similar to the actions of those residents. And those are just two stories. I'm a sure program directors have many others.

I have another true story I heard: a resident posted a naked picture of himself on facebook and was reprimanded by his program. He wasn't fired but the thing was that he got that mark on as app where any little thing he did wrong only gave them an excuse to get on his case. I believe he completed his training. He also took the photo down...

So you see, doing something that seems innocent will still have consequences even if it wasn't a direct result of said action. This girl did something much worse than that resident as she is essentially posting porn and identifying herself. Even if she wasn't fired/dismissed from school I can promise you that the next small thing she did would be much more significant had she not done what she had done before.



Hey if all you people want to post whatever you want on the internet because you think you have a "right" and it "doesn't hurt anyone" and it's "no one's business what you do in your personal life" then go right ahead. I assure you that other people (patients, colleagues, co-workers, etc) do care and if stuff like that gets out it'll come back to bite you at some point in your career. For example, try being the dean of a med school knowing that those pictures are all over the internet. Or try to get that professorship, or get the opportunity to edit a journal, etc etc.



on a final note, guess I understand now why all those professionalism lectures are important... Still kinda surprises at the lack of it among people on this site.

 

[KnuxNole]

Dang, that must be some hospital that had 2 different residents fired and 1 who almost was 😱

 

[Rendar5]

On a final note, guess I understand now why all those professionalism lectures are important... Still kinda surprises at the lack of it among people on this site.

sorry, but I don't remember attempts to brand scarlet letters on people on the internet to be particularly professional either. Methinks thou hast a stick inserted into thine rear.

 

[johnmendes]

Who cares? In an ideal world, this wouldn't be news.
I fail to see how this affects her ability as a future provider. But that's just what I think, you should be able to do what you damn well please in your own home.

OTOH, as demonstrated by this thread, it wasn't a very smart move career wise. This whole "higher standard" in medicine is a load of crap, but it's prevalent. It is surprising that some students are already drinking the kool aid though, i would expect this to be met with a generalized "so what?"

 

[kedrin]

Let me start off by saying I know there is a real word there. worked after college before medical school. Whereas you people who disagree with her actions just use it as an argument to somehow prove that you know better, even though you have probably no real life experience. Don't you guys have a better argument to make?

I should pity your inability to think critically, not the other way around. I am at a loss of words at how to counter your stupidity. You make assumptions and logical leaps. How does posting naked photos of yourself make you a stripper? A stripper is one who performs naked dances at a strip club for money, has she done any of that? Comparing politicians and doctors is also not valid, since politicians are elected officials, the nature of their job calls for public scrutiny of their personal lives, and doctors are in a completely different boat. OH and yes, the logic of the last sentence in the second paragraph is nonexistent as well, that is exactly what sexual objectification is. So basically you have zero valid point in your post, nice try.


I honestly don't think all of a sudden we become saints and everyone should look up to us since we are in medical school and have life saving duties. It's just a job

I'm sorry I made the mistake of having faith in your ability to connect the dots.

Maybe you should look up the definitions for chauvinism and sexual objectification. There is a big difference between the two. Someone can consider someone a sexual object and not be chauvinistic. Like a woman sleeping with a male giggalo for pleasure, is she using him as a sexual object: yes, is she chauvinistic for doing this: no.

Strippers and this girl both by choice use their appearance for personal gain (ex: money/self fulfillment/attention etc). They are not the same but do share an important common feature.

The similarity between a politician and this girl is they both choose to open their personal lives up to the public. If she wanted to have a private life maybe she should have kept it that way. I wouldn't go selling porno tapes I was in if I wanted to go to the hospital and keep my professional and personal life separate.

 

[rodmichael82]

sorry, but I don't remember attempts to brand scarlet letters on people on the internet to be particularly professional either. Methinks thou hast a stick inserted into thine rear.

Can we take the stick out of his/her rear. I would love to put "RM82" initials on there please.

 

[alpinism]

Wowwwww, I am absolutely stunned at your comments! Where do you get off on judging her like that? As if you did not do something in your life that....

oh wait, you're 23, what have you done in life?

Get over yourself. You might learn a thing or two from her by enjoying life more, relaxing, being more of a daredevil and pushing the envelope. You pronouncing judgements about people make YOU more of an ineffective doctor than her! Yes, we all have judgments but it's a far different thing than broadcasting them and expecting people to join you.

It is not our responsibility to be judging our patients. It is our responsibility to care for them, bandage them up, and then allow them to live their lives as they see fit. We are going to be caring for alot of different types of people. Judging them is not part of the role!

There are a large number of MD Students, Residents, Fellows and Attendings who begrudge not having had a personal life prior to entering medical school. This chick is fantastic, courageous and would appear to be a very gifted at playing the piano! Woo hoo!

She is probably having MORE fun as an MD student than most.
Good for her!

Oh and by the way, I have posed as well in my earlier life and it did not stop employers from hiring me, multiple schools accepting me, and priests giving me Communion. Have I encountered judgments? Yup. They were never part of my life as it was so I couldn't have cared less. If anything I strutted my stuff in front of them even moreso just to rattle them.

We all have a past, and it makes life that much more colorful.

Heck we should start a thread on "what cool / naughty skeletons do you have in your skeleton?"

I found the article Daily Mail UK about Boy George getting personal attention from the store more scandalous just b/c the shoes he/she bought did not fit him/her and he/she decided to tweet about it!

How do I get that kind of service?

Go on...

1) Meh. She kinda looks like a hispanic Sarah Silverman.
2) She is probably not a medical student anyways. Everyone likes to say they're doctors or med students.

Lol.

Yeah, I'm surprised at all the reddit hooplah (6/10 at best).

lol at all the pre-meds arguing on here.

Anyway, in real life if she was in medical school and if her administration ever got wind of something like this, you can bet they'd be bringing her in for a little "professionalism" talk. I'm not sure they'd do anything about it though...they'd probably just tell her that posting naked pictures of herself online isn't such a great idea.

Also, I wouldn't think it'd be such a rare possibility for some PD or resident to have seen her on reddit...just sayin .

This.

I could care less...

However, I know of a few PDs that are on reddit and other social networking sites all the time. On top of that, nearly every PD I've met under the age of 50 lurks on sdn from time to time. All it takes is for one person at her school to recognize her and post her pics all over the internet w/ her name and school. During residency or job interviews when they google her name, guess what will be the first thing to show up?

 

[greatnt249]

So... if you read literally what I said just after that you would not have had to make that comment.

I was trying to point out to you how fallacious your argument is. What you were trying to do was equivocate her behavior to something more terrible and not at all the same situation; what she does harms no one but herself.

I said this student's behavior points to a pattern of unprofessional behavior that likely can be found in many other aspects of her life. She believes that is is ok to post nude pictures online of herself (true, as other people may have the same thoughts as well) but then actually goes and posts many graphic photos on a high-traffic site (something I'd bet the vast majority of people defending her would never ever do). It points to a thought process that is not in line with what is professional as is similar to the actions of those residents. And those are just two stories. I'm a sure program directors have many others.

Well, when you're a program director, feel free to surf all the porn you want in your screening process to make sure you don't hire "vile people" like her.

So you see, doing something that seems innocent will still have consequences even if it wasn't a direct result of said action.

No crap. If you'd read any of my posts, I said I don't endorse what she did. What I DID say is if she gets found out, it's HER problem, not yours. Thus, you should mind your own friggin business.

This girl did something much worse than that resident as she is essentially posting porn and identifying herself. Even if she wasn't fired/dismissed from school I can promise you that the next small thing she did would be much more significant had she not done what she had done before.

Dude...again with calling it porn? A couple of bare boobs is "softcore" at worst.

on a final note, guess I understand now why all those professionalism lectures are important... Still kinda surprises at the lack of it among people on this site.

Get over yourself. 🙄 Part of being professional is minding your own business, especially when said business affects neither you nor patient care.

 

[ijn]

Dude...again with calling it porn? A couple of bare boobs is "softcore" at worst.

She showed off her hoohoo too. And what a nice shaved hoohoo it is.

She clearly doesn't have the decision making capacity required for a future physician. I'm glad they expelled her for being an idiot. If she couldn't have foreseen this happening, then I'd certainly not trust her with the care of a patient.

Now she can get her rocks off by posting nudies online without professional consequence. I'm sure she'll make great medically themed hardcore pornography which there certainly is a deficit of in today's internet. Everyone wins.

 

[kedrin]

She showed off her hoohoo too. And what a nice shaved hoohoo it is.

She clearly doesn't have the decision making capacity required for a future physician. I'm glad they expelled her for being an idiot. If she couldn't have foreseen this happening, then I'd certainly not trust her with the care of a patient.

Now she can get her rocks off by posting nudies online without professional consequence. I'm sure she'll make great medically themed hardcore pornography which there certainly is a deficit of in today's internet. Everyone wins.

I like you

 

[beBrave]

lol go ahead.



Dude, 1. forgive me if, as a student who literally just graduated from medical school, I don't bow down to people who post on this site more often... and 2. you are pre-med and have never actually been in a setting where people are looking at you as their doctor and you would have information to provide as such (yes, patients often times don't know the difference between "medical student" vs "student doctor" vs "doctor" and no, shadowing doesn't count). As such you really have no basis in countering my points of professionalism being a integral part of being a physician with your points of doctors are humans. Both are true and both are necessary. But to be human you don't have to sacrifice your professionalism which is a point you are missing.

also your points are women wanting to feel beautiful is pretty funny. I guess Kim Kardashian is the same in how she just wanted to feel pretty so that's why she sold her sex tape. Or that 'teen mom' chick making a sex tape and then selling it trying to get famous. Both of those girls are pure trash and this med student is no different.

Premed yes; before this however I was a Psych Grad student. I didn't know that Medical school suddenly became the most prestigious of all post Bach schools where everyone is held higher than in all other professions. As SurvivorDO pointed out, this is the case in all professions and universities where you interact with others (regardless if you are a Doctor, Lawyer or Clinical Psychologist). You just called three human beings pure trash; you labeled the Med student as trash for no other reason than her posting pictures. Listen to yourself. You judge so easily, harshly and critically. You could care less about the person and focus more upon your judgmental beliefs.

Just because you graduated from Med school does not give you the right to solidify your opinions as fact. Was it the best decision she could have made, no however it was hers to make; if her school dismissed her for something like this then she would have an incredible case and btw students are students; Med school does not make you a Doctor; As I explained above, a Resident has signed a contract so they agree to follow the apporiate code of conduct as specified by their employer. This is the same situation where a news reporter went to a bar and disrobed; her employer then fired her; or when Layla Kayleigh (a famous tv hostess) posed for a photo shoot and did an interview for maxim magazine and was dismissed by Current TV for violating their ethics policy. No matter where you work, ethics is always to be expected. Med school students are not special. People are people and nothing is simply just black and white; most things exist in shades of gray.

 

[calvnandhobbs68]

Premed yes; before this however I was a Psych Grad student. I didn't know that Medical school suddenly became the most prestigious of all post Bach schools where everyone is held higher than in all other professions. As SurvivorDO pointed out, this is the case in all professions and universities where you interact with others (regardless if you are a Doctor, Lawyer or Clinical Psychologist). You just called three human beings pure trash; you labeled the Med student as trash for no other reason than her posting pictures. Listen to yourself. You judge so easily, harshly and critically; first she was an idiot and now she is trash. You could care less about the person and focus more upon your judgmental beliefs.

Just because you graduated from Med school does not give you the right to solidify your opinions as fact. Was it the best decision she could have made, no however it was hers to make; if her school dismissed her for something like this then she would have an incredible case and btw students are students; Med school does not make you a Doctor; A resident I explained above has signed a contract so they agree to terms of conduct. This is the same situation where a news reporter went to a bar and disrobed; her employer then fired her; or when Layla Kayleigh (a famous tv hostess) posed for a photo shoot and did an interview for maxim magazine and was dismissed by Current TV for violating their ethics policy. No matter where you work, ethics is always to be expected. Med school students are not special. People are people and nothing is simply just black and white; most things exist in shades of gray.

lol a case based on what exactly?

 

[beBrave]

lol a case based on what exactly?

Based on dismissing a student legally for something that has no direct relation to her performance, interaction or conduct in the actual university itself or while performing responsibilities related to patient care or academic integrity.

 

[circulus vitios]

Yes it is her personal right to do what she wishes but the behavior is suspect and would hinder her ability to be able to provide effective patient care.

No it wouldn't.

You are insufferable.

 

[Wordead]

Go on...



Lol.

Yeah, I'm surprised at all the reddit hooplah (6/10 at best).



This.

I could care less...

However, I know of a few PDs that are on reddit and other social networking sites all the time. On top of that, nearly every PD I've met under the age of 50 lurks on sdn from time to time. All it takes is for one person at her school to recognize her and post her pics all over the internet w/ her name and school. During residency or job interviews when they google her name, guess what will be the first thing to show up?

Most of the PDs I know (to be fair, not that many) would invite her for an interview based on this alone. Then again, I think I tend to get along with dirty old men so....

 

[lsu8601]

She's pretty brave to do this as a med student, considering how uptight some people are ...even though this has nothing at all to do with her competency as a doctor. I honestly wouldn't care if my doctor did this. She has her own personal life and if she likes to show nude photos to people online, who cares??

 

[ijn]

She's pretty brave to do this as a med student, considering how uptight some people are ...even though this has nothing at all to do with her competency as a doctor. I honestly wouldn't care if my doctor did this. She has her own personal life and if she likes to show nude photos to people online, who cares??

There's nothing brave about this. She probably has some really ****ed up psychiatric history to lead to such disinhibited behavior and abnormal sexual fetishism. I'd have a field day with her on my private consult couch.

 

[umean2tellme]

She's pretty hott.

 

[SFU]

Bebrave, I like your level-headedness, seems like you're one of few in this thread that I would want to associate with. Others seem to be quite close minded.

 

[JP2740]

She's an ugly medical student. Probably doing this to get the attention she doesn't receive in real life. Sad

 

[Beargryllz]

If this is unprofessional, I intend to change the definition of professionalism

 

[CDI]

She's an ugly medical student. Probably doing this to get the attention she doesn't receive in real life. Sad

Sour grapes?

 

[Planes2Doc]

Here's what blows my mind... Pre-meds put up a grand pony show for the ADCOMs that is so fake that it's completely sickening.

So how do you go from a completely fake righteous Mother Teresa robot to this? It just doesn't make sense.

I have no problem with what she or anyone does in their own personal time. Even if she were an escort, it wouldn't hinder patient care. Somehow before social media was born, people had a work and private life that remained separate. These people managed to do just fine at work. All of a sudden, employers are checking Facebook and other sources on potential applicants all the time now. Even though we don't have any issues with what she does, I don't think prospective employers would feel the same way. If people will be turned down employment for harmless things like photos of them getting drunk or profanities, then imagine what nude photos will do to you.

Never forget the pony show we put on to get here.

 

[K31]

My only question to her on the phone would be, "so are you accepting my admission or not?"

I'd like for her to accept my admission, if you know what I mean. 😉

 

[Slack3r]

Also, I wouldn't think it'd be such a rare possibility for some PD or resident to have seen her on reddit...just sayin .

Probably move her up on the rank list, if anything.

 

[oncall77]

No it wouldn't.

You are insufferable.

Insufferable because you disagree with me? Ah the hypocrisy of those touting to be so open-minded is actually hilarious to me. In any case I'm not wasting my time discussing this with someone who is pre-med with no actual experience.

 

[NJDevilsFan]

To the OP,

Your Job is to be an Intern and get your paperwork together to start residency, not judge people. If she gets in trouble it will be her school's admin doling out punishment or her patients that ultimately decide if they would see her as a physician (if they have ever heard of reddit or even care about her past). So get off your soapbox and get a life "BRO" or would ou rather be called "DUDE".

never understood why people even use that word is it meant to condescend?

 

[circulus vitios]

Insufferable because you disagree with me? Ah the hypocrisy of those touting to be so open-minded is actually hilarious to me. In any case I'm not wasting my time discussing this with someone who is pre-med with no actual experience.

Thanks for the feedback, 23 year old who went straight from kindergarten to medical school.

muh school's reputation
muh life experience
muh perpetual virginity & stick up ass syndrome

 

[Kevin Baker]

Who cares? Have you checked her comment history? She sounds like some stressed out 1st or 2nd year finding an anonymous way to escape and get some positive attention. I can think of a lot worse things classmates have done to cope with the stress. Have some empathy.

That's not to say posting nudes should be wrong

 

[ijn]

Who cares? Have you checked her comment history? She sounds like some stressed out 1st or 2nd year finding an anonymous way to escape and get some positive attention. I can think of a lot worse things classmates have done to cope with the stress. Have some empathy.

That's not to say posting nudes should be wrong

You seriously are as socially inept as she is if you think there's nothing to care about with her behavior. It is so far outside the bounds of social norms within the medical community. It defies belief that anyone can stand up and defend her actions. Keep that **** headless if you truly want anonymity. That's the thing. She didn't want to be anonymous. This is how she gets off sexually. She likes knowing little 11 year old boys are playing with themselves over the internet to her vag and tit pics.

 

[circulus vitios]

You seriously are as socially inept as she is if you think there's nothing to care about with her behavior. It is so far outside the bounds of social norms within the medical community. It defies belief that anyone can stand up and defend her actions. Keep that **** headless if you truly want anonymity. That's the thing. She didn't want to be anonymous. This is how she gets off sexually. She likes knowing little 11 year old boys are playing with themselves over the internet to her vag and tit pics.

Is it hurting anyone?

 

[Chemdude]

Is it hurting anyone?

She's hurting herself.

 

[beBrave]

Insufferable because you disagree with me? Ah the hypocrisy of those touting to be so open-minded is actually hilarious to me. In any case I'm not wasting my time discussing this with someone who is pre-med with no actual experience.

I would say its because you show a complete inability to see beyond your limited scope. You rebuke comments from other Med students that don't agree with you (flaunt that you have already graduated as though it gives you some additional insight and opinions additional weight) and completely disregard comments from residents. You see the word Pre-med and simply assume that it refers to an individual who has no practical clinical experience or Post Graduate education.

Your views are close minded and reflective of an individual whose reality would likely shatter if they were ever presented with indisputable counter evidence arguing against your views that could not be challenged. If and when you begin a residency, please leave your ego at the door. The only thing that you have proven in this thread is that there are individuals with personal issues that could affect patient care. In my humble opinion, your arrogance makes you one of these individuals. I would much rather be seen by a Doctor that post pics of herself online than an arrogant know it all intern.

I really hope your arrogance doesn't get someone killed as you debate that you were right and a nurse, chief resident or attending was wrong. I'm scared thinking about how you may even judge your patients. If someone comes in with a weird object lodged in their colon, does this mean that they are perverted trash clogging up the medical system and do not deserve your attention as much as someone injured in a car accident? or is the term trash only reserved for Physicians that go outside of what you define as acceptable and unacceptable in regards to the way they live their lives and the decisions they make? I wonder if you truly understand the Hippocratic oath. The oath is not designed to hold Doctors to a higher moral standard, its designed to hold Doctors accountable for patient bias and ones inability to see beyond there own views when treating a patient.

"I swear to fulfill, to the best of my ability and judgment, this covenant:

I will respect the hard-won scientific gains of those physicians in whose steps I walk, and gladly share such knowledge as is mine with those who are to follow.

I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures which are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism.

I will remember that there is art to medicine as well as science, and that warmth, sympathy, and understanding may outweigh the surgeon's knife or the chemist's drug.

I will not be ashamed to say "I know not," nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient's recovery.

I will respect the privacy of my patients, for their problems are not disclosed to me that the world may know. Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. If it is given me to save a life, all thanks. But it may also be within my power to take a life; this awesome responsibility must be faced with great humbleness and awareness of my own frailty. Above all, I must not play at God.

I will remember that I do not treat a fever chart, a cancerous growth, but a sick human being, whose illness may affect the person's family and economic stability. My responsibility includes these related problems, if I am to care adequately for the sick.

I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure.

I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm.

If I do not violate this oath, may I enjoy life and art, respected while I live and remembered with affection thereafter. May I always act so as to preserve the finest traditions of my calling and may I long experience the joy of healing those who seek my help."

 

[greatnt249]

She's hurting herself.

Yes, and she has to live with the ramifications; none of us do.

 

[circulus vitios]

She's hurting herself.

Thanks, I realize that.

 

[Chemdude]

Thanks, I realize that.

And that's what makes her dumb...she doesn't realize the negative consequences of her actions.

 

[circulus vitios]

And that's what makes her dumb...she doesn't realize the negative consequences of her actions.

The thread is more about 1) are medical students insufferable, judgmental douchebags and 2) should her actions have negative consequences i.e. are her actions harming anyone.

 

[greatnt249]

And that's what makes her dumb...she doesn't realize the negative consequences of her actions.

She probably does, actually; she just chooses to buck convention and do what she wants because, hey, why not?

Still doesn't take away from the fact that public shaming is not our business to handle.

 

[sonofva]

Yeah no joke (the link does NOT have any nudity btw):

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...door-pose-nude-exchange-Bitcoins-upvotes.html

I just wanted to get your guys' thoughts. It's some girl named Nina1987 who shows not only her body but her face as well.

Thing is if this chick went to my school she'd be expelled for an honor code violation with the reason being that the code is vague and always favors the administration (the student will never win something like this). I'd agree with it too because if it got out where she went it would likely hurt the reputation of the school which is something extremely important to everyone's future as residencies are very interested in the caliber of the school you went to (not the mention a bad reputation may hurt finances for the school). Also I would feel extremely uncomfortable if she was my or my family members' physician (as I am sure the vast majority of normal people would). She just couldn't be effective in a patient care setting. Hell teachers get fired for glamor modeling so I very highly doubt an aspiring physician could get away with posing nude on the internet.

Also, her comments in the article illustrate that she is stupid...

i would say that you should go look at the actual nude gonewild photogs...theyre pretty much the bomb. haha

 

[JP2740]

The thread is more about 1) are medical students insufferable, judgmental douchebags and 2) should her actions have negative consequences i.e. are her actions harming anyone.

Insufferable because we don't think medical students and doctors should be posing nude online? She doesn't have to be in med school for me to slam a slut/bitch/hoe like that. Guys do it on a daily basis to girls who do far less than that. Lol we're insufferable though! I think you're insufferable because you think this should be tolerated just because! Acceptance everyone!

I only have a couple med school buddies. Most of my buddies esp ones I hang out with aren't even in med school, I don't think they think I'm insufferable, and I know they would agree that this is out of line. I wouldn't even speak to a girl like this except for one night stand purposes (IF THAT). That's all the respect I'd ever give someone like this, sorry I choose to be insufferable.

 

[beBrave]

Insufferable because we don't think medical students and doctors should be posing nude online? She doesn't have to be in med school for me to slam a slut/bitch/hoe like that. Guys do it on a daily basis to girls who do far less than that. Lol we're insufferable though! I think you're insufferable because you think this should be tolerated just because! Acceptance everyone!

I only have a couple med school buddies. Most of my buddies esp ones I hang out with aren't even in med school, I don't think they think I'm insufferable, and I know they would agree that this is out of line. I wouldn't even speak to a girl like this except for one night stand purposes (IF THAT). That's all the respect I'd ever give someone like this, sorry I choose to be insufferable.

The idea of having someone like you as future colleague who expresses conservative biased beliefs and then goes on to demean another human being solely on their own judgement of someones personal conduct makes me laugh. I would much rather work with the woman that you find intolerable. BTW learn some respect, referring to a woman as a "slut/bitch/hoe" is disgusting. It shows your immaturity and inability to see the person and not just individual actions and behaviors.

When a patient comes in and test positive for HIV who has a history of prostitution and you have to break it to her that the viral load in her body has now progressed into full blown AIDS, does she deserve to die because she is a "slut/bitch/hoe", does her life matter any less? Will you sit there and think to yourself that she deserves it? Can you actually argue that your opinion of her and the patient care you provide will not be affected by your personal feelings towards her. Can you guarantee that you will spend as much time with her as you would another patient in similar shoes that acquired the disease in a less promiscuous way? Does a woman who sleeps with men of her choosing and feels free expressing her sexuality justify her being labeled a "slut/bitch/hoe" in comparison to a man, possibly one of your friends or even colleagues who sleeps with various women of his choosing and expresses his sexuality freely; who is labeled a legend? Do people who don't meet your expectations only exist as a shell of a person in your eyes?

 

[Didierdrogba]

Who cares? In an ideal world, this wouldn't be news.
I fail to see how this affects her ability as a future provider. But that's just what I think, you should be able to do what you damn well please in your own home.

OTOH, as demonstrated by this thread, it wasn't a very smart move career wise. This whole "higher standard" in medicine is a load of crap, but it's prevalent. It is surprising that some students are already drinking the kool aid though, i would expect this to be met with a generalized "so what?"

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There is way too much ego going on on this thread and sdn in general. Medical students always feel like they are better than any body else, and SDN makes it seem like physician is the only real career in the whole world, and we are always the people who have a bad bargain.

Honestly I can't care less if my family physician is a part time porn star.

 

[Chemdude]

The idea of having someone like you as future colleague who expresses conservative biased beliefs and then goes on to demean another human being solely on their own judgement of someones personal conduct makes me laugh. I would much rather work with the woman that you find intolerable. BTW learn some respect, referring to a woman as a "slut/bitch/hoe" is disgusting. It shows your immaturity and inability to see the person and not just individual actions and behaviors.

When a patient comes in and test positive for HIV who has a history of prostitution and you have to break it to her that the viral load in her body has now progressed into full blown AIDS, does she deserve to die because she is a "slut/bitch/hoe", does her life matter any less? Will you sit there and think to yourself that she deserves it? Can you actually argue that your opinion of her and the patient care you provide will not be affected by your personal feelings towards her. Can you guarantee that you will spend as much time with her as you would another patient in similar shoes that acquired the disease in a less promiscuous way? Does a woman who sleeps with men of her choosing and feels free expressing her sexuality justify her being labeled a "slut/bitch/hoe" in comparison to a man, possibly one of your friends or even colleagues who sleeps with various women of his choosing and expresses his sexuality freely; who is labeled a legend? Do people who don't meet your expectations only exist as a shell of a person in your eyes?

Get off your high horse and stop assuming that everyone who disagrees with your views is a backwards misogynist. It is equally stupid for a man to post nude pictures of himself online. You're turning this into a discussion of women's rights and empowerment. Objectifying women by advocating promiscuity as a form of "liberation" is just as bad as limiting women's rights.

 

[circulus vitios]

Get off your high horse and stop assuming that everyone who disagrees with your views is a backwards misogynist. It is equally stupid for a man to post nude pictures of himself online. You're turning this into a discussion of women's rights and empowerment. Objectifying women by advocating promiscuity as a form of "liberation" is just as bad as limiting women's rights.

Posting nude pictures of yourself isn't promiscuity, brah.

 

[beBrave]

Get off your high horse and stop assuming that everyone who disagrees with your views is a backwards misogynist. It is equally stupid for a man to post nude pictures of himself online. You're turning this into a discussion of women's rights and empowerment. Objectifying women by advocating promiscuity as a form of "liberation" is just as bad as limiting women's rights.

What business is a woman's promiscuity of yours? What business is it of yours to judge her? Do you understand that as a Doctor you take an oath to protect patient privacy and not judge them. Doctors are human beings, at some point every Doctor will also be a patient.

I will respect the privacy of my patients, for their problems are not disclosed to me that the world may know.

If Doctors were even held to the same standards as politicians, then they would also be required to defend the rights to privacy of all people and provide equal consideration to all regardless of what someone has done in their personal and or professional lives. Politicians are servants of the public so even when holding Doctors to the highest standards possible, they are still required to treat each and every single person equally and give them respect and consideration regardless of their background.

This isn't about women's rights, it really just comes down to a handful of students with God Complexes who have no practical life experience but still feel entitled to profess their biased opinions because they believe that the potential of having their name on a piece of paper gives them the right to do so. You are likely younger than I am, I have plenty of life experience working with clients, providing and auditing insurance coverage for people in different professions including medicine. I had plenty of opportunities to remind Physicians that a name on a piece paper means nothing if you don't have insurance to back you up (don't follow the rules and the state will fine you $30,000 and potentially arrest you). A name on a piece of paper does not make you more or less than anyone else. Is she representing the profession in a great way no, however put her alongside the numerous medical school students abusing prescription medications or contemplating suicide and suddenly she's an afterthought.

 

[KnuxNole]

Posting nude pictures of yourself isn't promiscuity, brah.

This. I know people aren't dumb enough to think that someone who did this has legs like 7/11. Same with the person who called her a B word...it's not like only mean people do this stuff.

 

[oncall77]

What business is a woman's promiscuity of yours? What business is it of yours to judge her? Do you understand that as a Doctor you take an oath to protect patient privacy and not judge them. Doctors are human beings, at some point every Doctor will also be a patient.

Doctors judge a patient's behavior as part of their job... promiscuity is associated with many negative health consequences regardless of whether or not the physician agrees with such actions on a moral standpoint. As a result any physician should advise their patients (male or female) against unsafe sexual practices.

Is she representing the profession in a great way no, however put her alongside the numerous medical school students abusing prescription medications or contemplating suicide and suddenly she's an afterthought.

This is a good statement because I think most of us likely agree more than we disagree. I agree with you that compared to what other physicians/medical students have done, do, and will do her actions don't come extremely high on the list of possibilities of bad actions to commit. Regardless her actions are still unprofessional and do point to the potential for further unprofessional behaviors. However I know of students who have done illegal drugs on a regular basis (not just marijuana btw) and in my opinion that is far more unprofessional in every way.

I think for some reason be it your past experiences having dealt with arrogant physicians (of which there are many) or just some preconceived notions, you have this sense that we all have God complexes when we say an idea or action is "wrong" and you happen to disagree. I'm not going to get into a religious/political discussion but this whole thread illustrates a point that is analogous to how many people view, say, abortion. Many people oppose the idea and action because they feel it is "wrong" while many others disagree and say they have the right to do as they please. Again the people who oppose will simply say that just because you have a right to do something doesn't make it ok. The people who support it say that others have no business in their personal affairs.


And to take the point one step further it is important to draw a line at some level about what is "right" and what is "wrong" because failure to do so will make everything be acceptable. It is important for a society/profession to have standards to live by. It is ok to say ideas and actions are wrong without passing judgment on an individual.



Anyway bro I think you'll be a good doctor and do what is best for your patients. But you do need to learn how to articulate a respectful disagreement because you will work with many med students, residents, attendings, nurses, midlevels, etc who will freely express views you will vehemently disagree with.