Med students have it easier...?

[Azawakh]

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I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic when he asked for your CV.

I don't feel that any threads like this have gone anywhere productive. I'm happy with that I'm doing, wouldn't want to be doing anything else as much. I'm glad others have different goals, desires, ambitions. What's the point in arguing about who has things easier or harder? Worry about yourself.

First of all I am big dork. I am usually the king of sarcasm. I echo your sentiments Dakota ;o)

You rock!!

 

[WildcatDMD]

think a dentist could fix a problem with someone's heart? unlikely
think a doctor could fix a problem with someone's tooth? Possibly

which education would be harder?

Haha. Zing! 👎

I don't think physicians could fix a "problem with someone's tooth" (unless you consider dental extraction "fixing a problem") anymore than a dentist could fix a problem with someone's heart (unless you consider administering CPR fixing a heart). That's why they are separate professions. I don't fix airplanes either.

 

[chris03333]

http://www.aavmc.org/vmcas/college_requirement.htm
http://www.aavmc.org/students_admissions/documents/enrollment.pdf
We remove 272 to correct for Tufts, Texas A M and TUS
2304/4581 =50.3%, still higher than 46.6%
4581 may include the non US schools, in which case the reality would be that there are fewer applicants in the US than 4581 and the accept rate rate would be higher than 50.3%. Since you are the vet student, I'd like too see the numbers you have.
From what I can see, there's no evidence to suggest that Vet is significantly harder to get into that Med. If anyone has any real evidence (i.e. NOT ANECDOTES) I'd like to hear it.

How can you use VMCAS and AMCAS to compare percentage of acceptances of vet vs. med students, what about the DO schools? They are med students also, correct?🙄

 

[Pemulis]

Yes and no. How you do in classes is often an indicator of how you will perform on Step 1, and is certainly relevent in terms of class rank, Honors, AOA, etc, all of which can help a little come residency choice time. And you never know when that remaining X% of course material you didn't stress about might actually have come in handy when working clinically, had you learned it. So while you certainly will become a doctor if you pass everything, you might not keep as many doors open and might not be striving to become the best doctor you can.
So I'm not a fan of the "knowing enough to respectably pass" approach. Grades, competition etc should be irrelevant at this graduate stage -- you should be striving to do your best (whatever that may be) out of motivation to be a good doctor, to learn anything and everything you can. Obviously balance it out with whatever else you have going on in life, but med school, and medicine generally is about hard work, lifelong learning, not work avoidance. Be interested, engaged. You presumably came to med school to learn medicine, and become a good practitioner, not squeak by with the least effort possible. (I hope).

Yeeesh. I was just trying to help to OP relax a little, that's all. When I say "respectably pass" I'm not referring to squeaking through by the skin of your teeth. I just mean that if you miss the honors cutoff by a few points, it's not going to break your career. The same couldn't be said when we were pre-meds. And while I certainly agree that we should all give 110% in our classes, I don't buy the argument that struggling a bit in the pre-clinical years is neccesarily going to translate into poor clinical skills down the road. The world is full of good doctors, only a small percentage of whom honored histo and biochem.

 

[Pemulis]

Originally Posted by Pemulis
"P = FP"

Fixed for you.

Well, after I get back from doing my low-ranked FP residency in the middle of nowhere, I'll be certain to never refer any patients your way, Herr Doctor Funk.

 

[Azawakh]

How can you use VMCAS and AMCAS to compare percentage of acceptances of vet vs. med students, what about the DO schools? They are med students also, correct?🙄

Don't forget to account for the Canadian schools!!!

 

[DoctorFunk]

Well, after I get back from doing my low-ranked FP residency in the middle of nowhere, I'll be certain to never refer any patients your way, Herr Doctor Funk.

That's cool. I don't plan on specializing in iatrogenic train wrecks anyway.

 

[Pinkertinkle]

How can you use VMCAS and AMCAS to compare percentage of acceptances of vet vs. med students, what about the DO schools? They are med students also, correct?🙄

Maybe you, in your infinite wisdom, can come up with a better way?

Anyway, I'm talking about the MD v. DVM degree, this is the MD forum if you haven't noticed.
If you want to talk about how hard it is to get into DO school vs Vet school, that's not my area of expertise, go to the DO forum.

Why don't you provide some data supporting your point instead of sitting there and criticizing?
I mean come on right? Every vet student knows its easier to get into an MD program, surely it can't be hard to find some data to support this.

 

[Pemulis]

That's cool. I don't plan on specializing in iatrogenic train wrecks anyway.

Your loss. One man's malpractice is another man's cash cow.

 

[chris03333]

Maybe you, in your infinite wisdom, can come up with a better way?

Anyway, I'm talking about the MD v. DVM degree, this is the MD forum if you haven't noticed.
If you want to talk about how hard it is to get into DO school vs Vet school, that's not my area of expertise, go to the DO forum.

Why don't you provide some data supporting your point instead of sitting there and criticizing?
I mean come on right? Every vet student knows its easier to get into an MD program, surely it can't be hard to find some data to support this.

Umm I am a veterinary student and I have no clue what it is like to apply to med school, regardless which degree (MD vs. DO).

I am not criticizing, just looking at the question of if it is "easier to get into med school vs. vet school" in a different way.

Seems like someone needs to pull the stick out of their a$$😡 now that's criticizing.....

 

[utorontograd]

While I can't speak for vet schools, I can say clinical psych programs are certainly more difficult to get into than medical school. They have a significantly lower acceptance rate than medical schools (~1%), and generally require outstanding stats. It is almost impossible to get into a program straight out of undergrad (you need multiple years of research experience / publications), and there is a general lack of spots open for people. I know a few individuals that chose medicine partially because it is less competitive than clinical psych.

Once you get there, not as hard as med school, but getting in the door is certainly more difficult.

A friend of mine was offered quite a few clinical psych positions straight out of undergrad. A couple of schools actually had a bit of a bidding war for him a(Rutgers and the University of Arizona). With his stats (although very good), he most likely would not have been so hot going into meds.

 

[utorontograd]

It doesn't matter who has the hardest time getting in or during school, it's who gets the hottest girlies after. That one hands down goes to the M.D. doctor of mysogeny.

 

[FenderHM]

Haha. Zing! 👎

I don't think physicians could fix a "problem with someone's tooth" (unless you consider dental extraction "fixing a problem") anymore than a dentist could fix a problem with someone's heart (unless you consider administering CPR fixing a heart). That's why they are separate professions. I don't fix airplanes either.

you're right I dont know what my point was... I usually try to make sense w/ my posts...cant win them all I guess

 

[45408]

[sarcasm]It is great that pets in America have such great access to tertiary care centers. Hey if you can afford it then why not?[/sarcasm] I saw a patient a couple of weeks ago that lost his leg because he could not afford his DM meds. He can no longer work as a roofer because he can't climb a later. I love the American way.

You offered to pay for his meds then, right?

 

[45408]

While I can't speak for vet schools, I can say clinical psych programs are certainly more difficult to get into than medical school. They have a significantly lower acceptance rate than medical schools (~1%), and generally require outstanding stats. It is almost impossible to get into a program straight out of undergrad (you need multiple years of research experience / publications), and there is a general lack of spots open for people. I know a few individuals that chose medicine partially because it is less competitive than clinical psych.

Once you get there, not as hard as med school, but getting in the door is certainly more difficult.

I doubt that. I know some people who got into clinical psych programs that probably wouldn't have gotten into medical school. They were intelligent and well-credentialed, but less so than the people in the same lab who were going to medical school.

 

[YouDontKnowJack]

I'd pay $2k for my cats, and I know I'm not alone on this one.

that looks like the stray cat i ran over the other day.

 

[Trail Boss]

I'm wondering if anyone else have been experiencing this phenonemon as a med student.


But then, I feel like an idiot when people tell me that psychology and vet schools are harder to get into than medicine, that DPT and dental students have it rougher than med students because they have a heavier workload.
😀

Psychology school. Now That is funny. Don't care who you are.

 

[Hayden2102]

Well, if you were interested, in Australia, medicine/surgery is consistenly the highest-cutoff, lowest success rate of application degree in existence. It is FAR more selective than any other course, at EVERY university.

More anecdotally, it is considered the hardest course to get through. Widely regarded OPINION, only.

 

[Azawakh]

“It is harder to get into vet school than it is to get into human medical school.”
Surprise! This is NOT a myth. There are only 29 schools of veterinary medicine in North
America and there are 160+ schools for the study of human medicine. The lack of availability of
seats for students who wish to study non-human medicine makes it very challenging to be
admitted. Each year around 15,000 students apply for about 2500 – 2600 seats for entering
DVM students.

http://www.cvm.uiuc.edu/asa/documents/MythsaboutAdmissions.pdf

 

[deleted77919]

Just because more people apply for fewer seats doesn't necessarily mean that thing is more difficult to enter than a field with fewer applicants and more seats. In many cases the applicants are self selected. A mean cumulative GPA of 3.5 and science of 3.47 (info from your link) doesn't sound absurdly more competitive than medical school.

Having said that, I still think this is a silly discussion.

 

[diosa428]

“It is harder to get into vet school than it is to get into human medical school.”
Surprise! This is NOT a myth. There are only 29 schools of veterinary medicine in North
America and there are 160+ schools for the study of human medicine. The lack of availability of
seats for students who wish to study non-human medicine makes it very challenging to be
admitted. Each year around 15,000 students apply for about 2500 – 2600 seats for entering
DVM students.

http://www.cvm.uiuc.edu/asa/documents/MythsaboutAdmissions.pdf

Well pin a rose on your nose. You're right, vet students are absolutely spectacular. Now why don't you go back to the vet forums, instead of hanging out on the MD forums with the lowly med students that are sooo much less intelligent than you?

 

[Pinkertinkle]

"It is harder to get into vet school than it is to get into human medical school."
Surprise! This is NOT a myth. There are only 29 schools of veterinary medicine in North
America and there are 160+ schools for the study of human medicine. The lack of availability of
seats for students who wish to study non-human medicine makes it very challenging to be
admitted. Each year around 15,000 students apply for about 2500 – 2600 seats for entering
DVM students.

http://www.cvm.uiuc.edu/asa/documents/MythsaboutAdmissions.pdf

Wow is that the best you can do? A flyer that cites no sources and the author of which has clearly confused applications with applicants?

We know VMCAS covers almost all vet schools, and it tells us
Total Applicants: 4581
Average Number of Applications: 3.8
~4500x4 = 17k

But maybe you're not convinced?
Let's take a look at an individual vet school.
UC Davis Vet is regarded as one of the best and hardest to get into right?
http://www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/studentprograms/subpages/ApplicationStats2010.pdf
966 applicants, 139 offered admission. 14% accepted

UC Davis Med is a mid tier medical school.
from the 2005 MSAR
4109 applicants, ~240 offered admission. 6% accepted

This vet so much harder than med is a MYTH supported by no solid evidence, probably spread by insecure vet students and vet schools.

 

[Pinkertinkle]

Just because more people apply for fewer seats doesn't necessarily mean that thing is more difficult to enter than a field with fewer applicants and more seats. In many cases the applicants are self selected. A mean cumulative GPA of 3.5 and science of 3.47 (info from your link) doesn't sound absurdly more competitive than medical school.

Having said that, I still think this is a silly discussion.

There aren't more students applying for fewer seats. There are fewer students applying for fewer seats.

 

[RxnMan]

There aren't more students applying for fewer seats. There are fewer students applying for fewer seats.

Good citations. I want to know - most pre-med students apply to many (15-20) schools. What are the numbers like for pre-vets?

 

[Pinkertinkle]

Good citations. I want to know - most pre-med students apply to many (15-20) schools. What are the numbers like for pre-vets?

A lot of people on SDN apply to 18-20 schools. Whether or not this is the average for all amcas applicants I do not have a source to know.

For VMCAS
Total Applicants: 4581
Average Number of Applications: 3.8

 

[deleted77919]

There aren't more students applying for fewer seats. There are fewer students applying for fewer seats.

I wasn't trying to assess whether this was the case comparing vet and med applications. My point was this argument is completely irrelevant.

My point still holds that just because a lot of people apply for something and fewer get it does not make that thing by definition a harder thing to do. Consider the neurosurgery match, depending on year between 60 and 80% of people who try to match into neurosurgery will. In certain localities only 10% of applicants for new firefighter positions are accepted. Does this mean becomming a firefighter is a lot harder than becoming a neurosurgeon? No.

The only way to make a comparison of this sort valid is if the applicant pools completely overlap. Which, they don't.

 

[Azawakh]

Actually Cornell, UPENN, and Colorado State University have the best schools of veterinary medicine. UC-Davis is no longer the most competitive or even top tier.

I press you to find any veterinary school in the country that has as high an acceptance rate as any of these medical schools.

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/grad/webextras/premium/sb_med_selective.php

University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences 24.9%
University of Tennessee Health Science Center 23.6%
University of North Dakota 33.6%
University of Arizona 28.4%
University of Massachusetts--Worcester 22.8%
Oklahoma State University Center for Health Sciences 27.5%
University of Oklahoma 19.6%

Pick up any copy of U.S News and World Report.

 

[Dookter]

Actually Cornell, UPENN, and Colorado State University have the best schools of veterinary medicine. UC-Davis is no longer the most competitive or even top tier.

I press you to find any veterinary school in the country that has as high an acceptance rate as any of these medical schools.

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/grad/webextras/premium/sb_med_selective.php

University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences 24.9%
University of Tennessee Health Science Center 23.6%
University of North Dakota 33.6%
University of Arizona 28.4%
University of Massachusetts--Worcester 22.8%
Oklahoma State University Center for Health Sciences 27.5%
University of Oklahoma 19.6%

Pick up any copy of U.S News and World Report.

This statistics war is silly. Didn't BU get like 11,000 applications this year? I press you to find a vet school that is harder to get into than that! See how endless this is? To really statistically analyze this you'd have to look at it from all angles, and you'd have to have access to statistics that are not published [what applicants applied to what schools, etc.]. This is pointless.

Furthermore, acceptance rates do NOT matter when comparing difficulty of entry. Why don't they matter? B/c all it takes is for more people to apply [assuming # of seats is constant] to make the acceptance rates go down. This really says nothing about the people who actually did get accepted. Harvard is at the top of the med school list, but its acceptance rate is a LOT higher than it would be if everyone applied to Harvard. Harvard is no harder to get into when everyone applies than it is now with just a subset of people applying. I think the only way to really look at how difficult it is to get into a school would be to look at the applications of the students that are accepted, their stats, etc. Even then, since we don't take the same standardized tests, this is impossible.

EDIT: And it is pretty lame to use statistics from some med schools that exclude TONS of out of state applicants. No wonder their acceptance rates are higher!

 

[Pinkertinkle]

Actually Cornell, UPENN, and Colorado State University have the best schools of veterinary medicine. UC-Davis is no longer the most competitive or even top tier.

I press you to find any veterinary school in the country that has as high an acceptance rate as any of these medical schools.

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/grad/webextras/premium/sb_med_selective.php

University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences 24.9%
University of Tennessee Health Science Center 23.6%
University of North Dakota 33.6%
University of Arizona 28.4%
University of Massachusetts--Worcester 22.8%
Oklahoma State University Center for Health Sciences 27.5%
University of Oklahoma 19.6%

Pick up any copy of U.S News and World Report.

These are in state schools, so your data is pretty useless. Why don't you do a little research and compare Penn med with Penn vet, and we'll see whose acceptance rate's lower.

Bottom line is over all there are enough spots for 46% of MED applicants and 50% of VET applicants. It is NOT significantly harder to get into vet than med in terms of spots per applicant, which is what the vet schools seem to use as evidence.

 

[Azawakh]

One could argue your data is useless as well considering that 90% of veterinary schools are in-state.

This thread has gotten way more attention than this subject warrants. I have nothing else to say here.

Good luck to you all in your studies.

 

[Dookter]

One could argue your data is useless as well considering that 90% of veterinary schools are in-state.

This thread has gotten way more attention than this subject warrants. I have nothing else to say here.

Good luck to you all in your studies.

But do these vet school exclude out of state applicants? Some of the med schools you listed do [unless they come from a few select surrounding states that do not have medical schools]. Not all of them you listed are like that, but some are. Maybe vet schools are like this too. I don't know. But you selectively picked medical schools with stats that you liked to see, which is lame when presenting statistics. When it comes to medical schools with WAAAAY lower acceptance rates, you simply excluded them.

 

[Azawakh]

You are correct I only included the statistics of the schools that supported my point.

The problem with schools of veterinary medicine is that with the exception of Western University they are all in-state. They reserve 50 percent of their spots for in-state residents. In some cases where they have contracts with neighboring states that do not have veterinary schools there are even less spots for out of state applicants. There are medical schools in most states however there are only 28 schools of veterinary medicine in 26 states. So if you are lucky enough to reside in a state with a school of veterinary medicine then yes you have a 33 percent chance (Tufts University accepts 40 in-state applicants of a class of 80, 120 instate applicants this year). However if you live out of state then you are competing for 40 spots with 696 (total applicants at Tufts) other applicants.

Other schools have similar numbers. The University of Georgia for example has accepted 1-5 out-of-state applicants in the last 5 years in a classes of 96. There are years in a number of veterinary schools when no out-of-state applicants are accepted.

 

[Trail Boss]

People people come now. I grew up in a agricultural community and went to a state college with a very well regarded vet school. Yes it is competitive AMONGST PEOPLE THAT WANT TO GO TO VET SCHOOL. Every tom, dick, harry and jane wants to be a vet in high school in rural areas (as opposed to docs). So yes it is competitive in the way that there are more applicants than seats, but I don't think any of you really believe that vet students are smarter or more driven that med or dental students (on average).

 

[pillowhead]

Can someone tell me why it matters if it's harder to get into vet school or med school? I mean, who cares except to soothe your ego or have bragging rights? When my dog is sick, I take him to the vet. When I'm sick, I go to my MD. As long as both are reasonably intelligent people who learned there stuff in school, I'm not going to ask them there SAT scores to see who was initially smarter than the other.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

Can someone tell me why it matters if it's harder to get into vet school or med school? I mean, who cares except to soothe your ego or have bragging rights? When my dog is sick, I take him to the vet. When I'm sick, I go to my MD. As long as both are reasonably intelligent people who learned there stuff in school, I'm not going to ask them there SAT scores to see who was initially smarter than the other.

Exactly. I think this thread has deteriorated into the dumbest thread ever on SDN. It really does show how insecure we medical students are. 🙄

 

[chaldobruin]

The average GPA for schools of veterinary medicine is 3.6 and there are no lower-tier vet schools to try for.

UC Davis's Vet School entering class had a 3.42 Cumulative GPA (http://www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/studentprograms/subpages/ApplicationStats2010.pdf)

Tufts: 3.58 (http://www.tufts.edu/vet/vet_common/pdf/admissions/v2010profiles.pdf)

Upenn: 3.56 (http://www.vet.upenn.edu/admissions/faq.html)

Michigan State: 3.45 (http://cvm.msu.edu/admis/documents/AdmittedClassProfile2010.pdf)

I can go on, but if you look up the average GPA's for the corresponding medical schools of these universities you will definitely see a disparity in average GPAs with the medical schools having higher averages.

 

[IckeyShuffle]

I have had the opportunity to compare medical school to veterinary school because I completed a master's degree in Anatomy and Neurobiology at Boston University School of Medicine before beginning veterinary school at Tufts University. The master's degree consisted in the first-year of the same courses with the medical students before diverging during the second year into research. So although I can't give a complete 4 year comparison here is some insight.

It is more difficult to gain acceptance in to schools of veterinary medicine verses medical schools because there aren't many schools like many have mentioned. Otherwise I've found my first year of veterinary school noticeably more rigorous than medical school for the following reasons.

1. Gross Anatomy is a year long course and you not only have to know the anatomy of one species but of 5 species minimally.

2. In many medical schools the first year is pass/fail. In veterinary school it is not and if you have any desire to do a residency you have to be doing well again because there aren't many residency spots.

3. At Boston University, Case Western, and Tufts Medical school you don't have to take Histology, Gross Anatomy, Physiology, and Developmental Anatomy which are all heavy courses all at the same time. At BU in particular we took Gross Anatomy and Histology together followed by Neuroscience in the winter. So the course load is heavier thus far in veterinary school.

4. However the most noticeable thing to me is that the information learned by veterinary students is the same as the material learned by medical students and quite frankly as mammals the aliments and due to animal research the treatments often times are very similar if not identical. It is more daunting to learn all this material for multiple species.

5. Finally, who cares. Graduate studies and in particular medical studies because you are responsible in many cases for saving and ameliorating the lives of your patients are extremely rigorous across the board. I am just happy to be doing something I love. I would be attending veterinary school if it was the easiest school to get into and the easiest material to learn.

very insightful, thankyou

 

[NonTradMed]

I would be attending veterinary school if it was the easiest school to get into and the easiest material to learn.

I think you applied at the wrong time. My mother remembers back in the 1980's when vet school was the backup for med school. She had people working in the lab who told her that they could not get into med school and did vet school (or dental school) as the next best thing. It's intersting to learn that it's the other way around now. I guess things have really changed from the mid-80's.

Still, I guess it's good to know that I'm not alone in my suffering.

 

[Dookter]

It's intersting to learn that it's the other way around now.

Um, it's not the other way around now, esp. with re: to dental school.

 

[NonTradMed]

Um, it's not the other way around now, esp. with re: to dental school.

I'm sorry, I think I may have misspoke here, I didn't mean to say that dental school is harder to get into than med school. I don't believe that is teh case, even though there had been quite a few dental school closings in the past two decades.

 

[tncekm]

I'd pay $2k for my cats, and I know I'm not alone on this one.

You're not alone. I'd pay $2k for my damn rats if I had the money. People shouldn't have pets if they're going to treat them like toys. (And yes, I eat plenty of meat.)

 

[kesse]

You're not alone. I'd pay $2k for my damn rats if I had the money. People shouldn't have pets if they're going to treat them like toys. (And yes, I eat plenty of meat.)

if only people would take the money they spend on toys, clothes and medicines for pets and send them to help children in third world countries...

 

[Doctor Bagel]

if only people would take the money they spend on toys, clothes and medicines for pets and send them to help children in third world countries...

Yes, now I feel guilty. I'm sure you send all your spare money to Malawi. 🙄

 

[tncekm]

if only people would take the money they spend on toys, clothes and medicines for pets and send them to help children in third world countries...

Great idea. Lets lose all the worlds wealth so that we can give each poor kid enough money to buy a slice of bread.

Listen Kesse (have a little baking soda to slow down that bleeding heart): you make it sound so simple because your incredibly naive and ignorant of the difficulties that come with "saving the world".

Get off of your high-horse and let me spend my two fwcking grand on my animals without you indirectly calling me a third-world-baby-killer. 👎

 

[helpfuldoc2b]

I'm wondering if anyone else have been experiencing this phenonemon as a med student.

I had to struggle to get into med school. I'm not one of those "yikes-I-have-five-full-rides-to-med-school-which-one-should-I-choose" types. I had a hard time getting into med school (although probably no harder than many other med students). I had to retake the MCAT after it expired, and quit my job to study for it and take bio classes, and I had to apply to 20+ schools for the hope of a handful of interviews and maybe an acceptance or two. I don't think I had it rougher than any other premed, but I always thought it was a pretty rough application process. And once I got in, it's been a rough semester, mainly becaues I feel like I'm drowning in coursework and (I feel) I'm always in danger of failing.

But then, I feel like an idiot when people tell me that psychology and vet schools are harder to get into than medicine, that DPT and dental students have it rougher than med students because they have a heavier workload.

Yikes, does that mean that med school is the 'easier' choice then? Does anyone get this a lot? That people tell you, "Don't worry, you may think med school is hard, but tons of students have it much rougher than you". It makes me feel worse since I had a hard time getting in and (now) staying in.

So first semester of med school is almost over and I'm feeling like I've been run over by a big truck. There's no doubt in my mind that it's an intense few years for me.

However, am I just thinking in a very narrow realm here? Medicine has consumed my life these past year and a half. I dont' have time to talk with students from other professions and ask them how their programs compare, or how hard it was to get into the program/what sacrifices they had to make for it. I'm wondering what other people think their med school program as compared to other professional training....is it true that med school is pretty laid back as compared to other professions? Are we all a bunch of whiners (or maybe just me?)? 😀

Does it matter which is harder. Unless you study all the programs you really cant say which is harder. A dental student is going to tell you studying dentistry is harder, same with a DPT, etc... I guess difficulty is in the eye of the beholder. It all depends, if you hate something its going to be 10000000 times harder to do. But in the end they are all difficult and require time commitment. As for Dental and DPT, they have heave load schedules and credits, etc... but i doubt the expectations of the massive amount of knowlege is comparable to that of medical students (correct me if I am wrong everyone). I mean in dental school you study head and neck anatomy, in med school you got to know all the human body in and out in a very short time, it may only be 6-8 credits but the amount of information you need to know for those 6-8 credits is enormous.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

Get off of your high-horse and let me spend my two fwcking grand on my animals without you indirectly calling me a third-world-baby-killer. 👎

Yep. 🙂

 

[indo]

if only people would take the money they spend on toys, clothes and medicines for pets and send them to help children in third world countries...

Why not help kids in America? Not as trendy?

 

[Droopy Snoopy]

if only people would take the money they spend on toys, clothes and medicines for pets and send them to help children in third world countries...

Oh those billions and billions of dollars spent on Santa hats for Sparky, just crippling the world's economy 🙄

My avatar just flew away to tell PETA about you.

 

[45408]

if only people would take the money they spend on toys, clothes and medicines for pets and send them to help children in third world countries...

Go sell your Macbook, iPod, plasma TV and your car. Send that money abroad, and stop worrying about what other people use their discretionary income for. Some vet tech somewhere has a job because of them.

 

[want2beadoc]

SDN is the only place that a degenerate DVM vs. MD thread can degenerate even more into a discussion about market economics and altruism. 🙂