$200 million since 2004 is only 50mil/yr.
That ain't much.
Why don't thye target things that actually decrease costs...like people who don't change their behavior.
Like the Medicaid pt who has Cystic Fibrosis and receives home infusions and is hospitalized...but continues to smoke and drink!!!
There is no reason my tax money should pay for this idiots health when they don't care enough about themselves to stop smoking.
An affluent college educated professional student hates poor people who are unwilling to pull themselves up by their bootstraps?! I'm shocked. I mean, you've had it tough, right? Why can't those damn poor people just get a job? Let's all hold hands and go read Atlas Shrugged now.I hate welfare.
An affluent college educated professional student hates poor people who are unwilling to pull themselves up by their bootstraps?! I'm shocked. I mean, you've had it tough, right? Why can't those damn poor people just get a job? Let's all hold hands and go read Atlas Shrugged now.
that's the point of the article. Many of these older drugs never had to be officially studied. So their safety profiles rely on anecdotal experience because there's no money in investigating further.
So you do, in fact, have at least an ounce of compassion. That's good, you can work on that.I'm fine with covering children, they shouldn't be made to suffer because their parents couldn't get it right. That's the only part of public policy I'll lean left with.
Better than a no-tax and spend Republican, right? You're dreaming if you think cutting this $200 million is going to do anything to improve our infrastructure. You're also dreaming if you think we can gut any of the entitlement programs without serious problems. A better way to pay for the stuff you clearly want is to gut military spending. But no one wants to talk about that.I mean, the things we could do with that money making our lives better. We can have fantastic transportation, better roads, airports, etc... Ok I sound like a tax and spend democrat now, but whatever.
So you do, in fact, have at least an ounce of compassion. That's good, you can work on that.
I should be able to enjoy my financial rewards not be punished, God I am a cold hearted bastard.
3. I rather have that family get help so then they can become a productive citizens (like many of us), rather than somebody who might be an undeservable and one day endanger my life trying to rob me for a few dollars so they can either feed their baby, or fuel their next addiction.
You guys realize colchicine was grandfathered in, right? As well as ASA? I hate government waste as much as the next guy, but when we're talking about health-care we're talking about an annual budget on or around $1 trillion. $200 million over four years is incredibly small potatoes. Am I saying it's ok that Medicaid pays for carbofed? Not really, but we're not going to fix the system by starting at the bottom.
psu, you're just an ignorant *******. You realize Medicaid covers children, right? And the disabled? Yes, tell six year old Johnny he has to get a job by the time he's in third grade or we'll cut off his health-care. That makes sense. Or tell Jimbo to suck it up, he may have terminal cancer but goddammit, get a job. Right.
Uncle Bob, you gonna eat that bacon...you just had that "googol bypass" last month?
Ehh, I got me this Lipitor...I'm all set!
I'm more concerned with the behavioral ignorance of pt's. Medicaid or not.
Just like the CF pt I saw a few days ago...people should not be provided healthcare funded by taxpayers if they are unwilling to change their habits and could care less about their own health.
You have CAD and eat McDonalds everyday? You die next MI.
You have CF and you smoke? You die next time you get pneumonia.
You have Diabetes and don't take your meds? You get gangrene and die...no amputations for you...too expensive.
I think it has alot to do with the inefficiencies of the US healthcare system. Pt's are not held responsible enough for their own healthcare.
2 cents.
psu, you're just an ignorant *******. You realize Medicaid covers children, right? And the disabled? Yes, tell six year old Johnny he has to get a job by the time he's in third grade or we'll cut off his health-care. That makes sense. Or tell Jimbo to suck it up, he may have terminal cancer but goddammit, get a job. Right.
Medicaid fraud is real and is terrible, I agree with you there.medicaid should cover up to 18 and tats it (but if mentally disabled, etc, can be on it forever), but other than tat , a person can only be on it for 6 months and no more....when i see a Rx billed thru Access yet the person rolls in a 30 grand SUV, the math there doesnt add up, when i see Access people telling me they dont have $$ for the copay yet have 10 packs of cigs in their car, the math doesnt add up, and i go on
See, now you're sort of getting off the reservation. You realize everyone does stupid crap like you're listing, right? I mean, should we not treat people if they break their arm skiing, I mean they knew the risks right? You make it sound so simple when it really is anything but. There are better ways of eliminating waste.Im all for medicaid, but with restrictions, its hard for me to post them all in one post, but i just thought of another one:
non-complaince, if u miss md appoints and dont care for your condition, any consequence will not be covered by the rest of us...its not my fault a person with a diabetic wound doesnt take care of it and misses clinic appointments and gets hospitalized every 3 months for wound treatment...same with smokers, if u smoke, u cant get govt help
medicaid should cover up to 18 and tats it (but if mentally disabled, etc, can be on it forever), but other than tat
Yup, totally agree. Then those crazy liberals would respond with, "You're blaming the victim!" Well...it's their fault! Eating well and exercising doesn't require insurance or physicians. Ugh.
As a crazy liberal, you agree with me!!! ahhh hahaha
You're getting us liberals (regular Democrats) confused with the ultra left hippe liberals of the LEFT COAST...like Pelosi and Waxman.
I support the right to carry, a large defense budget, and basic healthcare for all...these are common sense type of things.
Good for you. Medicaid exists precisely because of situations such as your own. The government should not be in the business of kicking people when they're down, but trying to turn everyone into a productive member of society and to help everyone reach their potential.story
Not sure a machete would be appropriate, but I don't really disagree with anything you said. Although, as I'm sure you're aware, Medicaid fraud is quite rampant in Orange County, CA. (I should know, I worked in a retail pharmacy there for five years and saw more CalOptima patients with Mercedes Benz keychains than I'd care to remember.) Be sure to remember this when you condemn wide swaths of society as being a drag on us all.raaarrr let me backpedal like mad from my original short statement of "I hate welfare."
Good for you. Medicaid exists precisely because of situations such as your own. The government should not be in the business of kicking people when they're down, but trying to turn everyone into a productive member of society and to help everyone reach their potential.
Not sure a machete would be appropriate, but I don't really disagree with anything you said. Although, as I'm sure you're aware, Medicaid fraud is quite rampant in Orange County, CA. (I should know, I worked in a retail pharmacy there for five years and saw more CalOptima patients with Mercedes Benz keychains than I'd care to remember.) Be sure to remember this when you condemn wide swaths of society as being a drag on us all.
This is SDN, not CNN. If i wanted to be PC and tip toe around everyone like a little *****, I would be on the latter. So, thus, I stand by "I hate welfare and want to go through it with a machete."
See, now you're sort of getting off the reservation. You realize everyone does stupid crap like you're listing, right? I mean, should we not treat people if they break their arm skiing, I mean they knew the risks right? You make it sound so simple when it really is anything but. There are better ways of eliminating waste.
Oh ok you're just talking in hyperbole and not really meaning what you say, got it.
My pharmacy is heavy medicaid and a good number of those cases are BS.
Ive got one guy on the caid that rolls up in an S500 and another woman in a new vette drop top. Ever notice how the book of scrips that comes through your pharmacy is always from that dirt ball medicaid patient? The same one that doesnt do a damn thing all day but watch TV and slam beers while the rest of the country works their ass off to allow them to live such a lifestyle and keep them alive.
Ill agree that some cases are legit- like the single mother of children who works her ass off to put food on the table should be given assistance, but for people who have no children, are physically and mentally able to work should be made to work.
Sink or swim.
You mean like eating fast food? Drinking alcohol? Smoking? Where do you limit it? What is the threshold of "we will treat you for your MI" vs. "sorry duder you smoked a couple weeks ago time to writhe around on the floor in extreme pain"?nope, unless a patient goes sking everyday, that analogy is flawed and cannot be made...accidents like those cannot be compared to a deliberate habit which has been repeatedly shown to negatively affect every organ of the human body
xactly, single working mothers can have it, the elderly woman can have it, kids up to 18, im ok with tat
What about people over 18 that go to college? I didn't have health insurance for 7 years. I wasn't some loser that did nothing...I worked hella hard. 21 credit hours of school plus 32 hours of work each week during undergrad...no health insurance. Yet other kids that came out of some other vagina got health insurance through their parents until age 23 and only worked because they needed the intern hours. That **** is ****ed up.
5. There are more wastes than 200 mil over 4 years in the government. Lets start with military lunacy instead.
yeah both my undergrad and pharm school mandated students have health insurance...they required proof of private insurance or else they just added it to your tuition bill. how common is this outside of the east/west coast? i always thought this was standard practice.
i thought colleges mandated kids to have health insurance?
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