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Dr Dazzle

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Did you guys have to buy instrument kits and stethoscopes for your classes? If so, what quality do you guys suggest for incoming students? Is it worth it to get expensive instruments which include warranty, or get something cheaper.
 
Sphygmomanometer, stethoscope, tunning fork, percussion hammahr, otoscope, ophthalmoscope.
Survivor has some nice links but I forgot his webpage👍

EDIT: Found the blog. I knew it was somewhere: Survivor's Blog
 
Invest in a good stethoscope. Try and find a good deal for the other stuff.
 
We were heavily encouraged to buy a $1800 kit with ophthalmoscope, otoscope, Bp cuff, forks, reflex hammer, etc. unfortunately most of us did it which I would now prefer to have invested that money otherwise.
 
We were heavily encouraged to buy a $1800 kit with ophthalmoscope, otoscope, Bp cuff, forks, reflex hammer, etc. unfortunately most of us did it which I would now prefer to have invested that money otherwise.

So not worth it then I guess...Survivor recommends just buying a $99 diagnostic kit... and a nice cardio stethoscope
 
So not worth it then I guess...Survivor recommends just buying a $99 diagnostic kit... and a nice cardio stethoscope

Whatever stethoscope you get, make sure it has a good diaphragm and a bell. Words of wisdom from my cardio professor whose mentor was Dr. W. Proctor Harvey. 😎
 
One thing I would advise, however, is pay the extra $3-4 for a Queen's Square hammer instead of the Taylor hammers. If your white coat has an inside pocket, I find that mine fits perfectly in it. The only downside is one day I'll fall to that side and give myself a pneumo.

Also a great guide to the different types of hammers...

http://drgrumpyinthehouse.blogspot.com/2011/03/secrets-of-jedi-masters.html
 
Sweet lord, that is one good-looking hammer.


Which one? This one?

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This is brilliant and answers so many questions I've had since being a medical student.

Phlame217 said:
We were heavily encouraged to buy a $1800 kit ...

$1800? Good lord that's way way way way way too much. For a medical student all you need is a good stethoscope ($100-200 if you get fancy), a good BP cuff ($100 on amazon if you get fancy), an otoscope/opthalmoscope combination ($100; maybe more if you go for the panoptic head), and a small variety of hammers/lights, etc (sum total $25).

So, under $500 will get you the fancified versions of the things you need... but you can get it all for a lot less if you want (really for medical students, a $50 stethoscope will serve you just as well as a $200 one).

$1800? That's just crazy talk. Someone at your school must be getting a kickback from the supply company.
 
We were heavily encouraged to buy a $1800 kit with ophthalmoscope, otoscope, Bp cuff, forks, reflex hammer, etc. unfortunately most of us did it which I would now prefer to have invested that money otherwise.

I would never fall for that. That's just ridiculous.
 
Hey

Did you guys have to buy instrument kits and stethoscopes for your classes? If so, what quality do you guys suggest for incoming students? Is it worth it to get expensive instruments which include warranty, or get something cheaper.

Stethoscope - Yes. Love it. Cherish it.

Oto/ophthoscope - It obviously depends on your school but most schools will have ophtho and otoscopes as well as BP cuffs in the clinic rooms and SP rooms. Most people I know bought all that junk (myself included) and then never used them except to unpack them on day 1 of delivery. If your school has standard exam rooms you can get by with only a stethoscope.

Reflex hammer - I don't use mine for testing reflexes. I use it to establish for myself on a nearly hourly basis that I can, in fact, still bend over to pick up an object that inexplicably falls out of my pocket while leaning even at a 45* angle from vertical. I now keep it in my backpack and rarely use it. You can use your stethoscope for DTRs if you practice. The ones with the disk-shaped tops are pretty nifty... but thats just more big stuff you have to carry around.

Pen light - maybe.... the otoscope attached to the wall has a light and works pretty good for checking pupils and such. That said, I still have one.... somewhere...

sphyngomomomo... sphyna.... BP cuff - again, it should be on the wall in most places. Rural volunteer clinics will usually have a few they keep with their supplies. In most hospitals the nurses will do vitals when they come in (for outpatient) or they will be hooked to a machine that does it at intervals (inpatient). I only recheck BP if I have some reason to doubt the machines reading. I have yet to find a situation where I have been in need of a cuff and didnt have one nearby.

Tuning fork - a greater escape artist than the reflex hammer. There is usually one around if you need it, and there are other things you can quickly do without one to determine if you need one or not.

My white coat usually contains my stethoscope, my EKG caliper (the cheapo from amazon), a couple cheat sheet cards that Ive been given along the way, a couple pens and a highlighter, a small notebook, and my folding clipboard (which has cool stuff on it, but I haven't used it for much other than writing on during histories). I've found that a good majority of the stuff you need for physical exam is either on the wall in the exam room, in a drawer in the room, or in a secret stash in the department that a nurse could point you to.
 
Stethoscope - Yes. Love it. Cherish it.

Oto/ophthoscope - It obviously depends on your school but most schools will have ophtho and otoscopes as well as BP cuffs in the clinic rooms and SP rooms. Most people I know bought all that junk (myself included) and then never used them except to unpack them on day 1 of delivery. If your school has standard exam rooms you can get by with only a stethoscope.

Reflex hammer - I don't use mine for testing reflexes. I use it to establish for myself on a nearly hourly basis that I can, in fact, still bend over to pick up an object that inexplicably falls out of my pocket while leaning even at a 45* angle from vertical. I now keep it in my backpack and rarely use it. You can use your stethoscope for DTRs if you practice. The ones with the disk-shaped tops are pretty nifty... but thats just more big stuff you have to carry around.

Pen light - maybe.... the otoscope attached to the wall has a light and works pretty good for checking pupils and such. That said, I still have one.... somewhere...

sphyngomomomo... sphyna.... BP cuff - again, it should be on the wall in most places. Rural volunteer clinics will usually have a few they keep with their supplies. In most hospitals the nurses will do vitals when they come in (for outpatient) or they will be hooked to a machine that does it at intervals (inpatient). I only recheck BP if I have some reason to doubt the machines reading. I have yet to find a situation where I have been in need of a cuff and didnt have one nearby.

Tuning fork - a greater escape artist than the reflex hammer. There is usually one around if you need it, and there are other things you can quickly do without one to determine if you need one or not.

My white coat usually contains my stethoscope, my EKG caliper (the cheapo from amazon), a couple cheat sheet cards that Ive been given along the way, a couple pens and a highlighter, a small notebook, and my folding clipboard (which has cool stuff on it, but I haven't used it for much other than writing on during histories). I've found that a good majority of the stuff you need for physical exam is either on the wall in the exam room, in a drawer in the room, or in a secret stash in the department that a nurse could point you to.

While the above is correct for when you're in clinic, some schools require students to purchase/obtain and use their own equipment. At least at my school, most of those items are in the standardized patient exam rooms, but we are required to bring our own crap for clinical skills exams and standardized patient encounters. It's annoying to stuff my coat pockets with everything, but that's the way it is for me. The practical use of having your own stuff is for when you're in physical diagnosis lab and you're practicing on each other. Also, my school requires us to do rural rotations, and those clinics may or may not have everything on the above list.
 
While the above is correct for when you're in clinic, some schools require students to purchase/obtain and use their own equipment. At least at my school, most of those items are in the standardized patient exam rooms, but we are required to bring our own crap for clinical skills exams and standardized patient encounters. It's annoying to stuff my coat pockets with everything, but that's the way it is for me. The practical use of having your own stuff is for when you're in physical diagnosis lab and you're practicing on each other. Also, my school requires us to do rural rotations, and those clinics may or may not have everything on the above list.

I realized that, which is why I said it would be school specific. the TL;DR for my post is basically "if your school has it sitting around for you already, don't buy your own... except the stethoscope because nobody wants to share ear boogers".
 
Hey

Did you guys have to buy instrument kits and stethoscopes for your classes? If so, what quality do you guys suggest for incoming students? Is it worth it to get expensive instruments which include warranty, or get something cheaper.

Buy a good stethoscope. Everything else can be cheap. You'll never use most of it after your second year.
 
Worth it to get a long term warranty on the cardio stethoscope?
 
Buy a stethoscope, maybe a hammer. Nothing else.

No one needs a thousand dollar otoscope/opthalmascope kit. The only time I've used mine was on my girlfriend at home.
 
Buy a stethoscope, maybe a hammer. Nothing else.

No one needs a thousand dollar otoscope/opthalmascope kit. The only time I've used mine was on my girlfriend at home.

:naughty:
 
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