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- Dec 11, 2016
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You have so drastically changed your argument that I honestly think you are bating people. You went from this:
43% of American households make more than $80k...so yeah I don't think it is very out of touch to say that is an attainable income.
But like I said, you made one demonstrably false comment, someone calls you out on it, then you change your tune to "a lot of Americans are struggling and $80-150k is a lot." I thought only a doctor's salary was a lot? That is at least >$150k, really more like >$200k when you take out the bottom 10% or so who combine low income specialty with HCOL area. So which is it?
I have also NEVER claimed that most Americans don't struggle to make ends meet. That is one of the underlying themes of this post if you took the time to read critically. Doctors have a better financial situation than >95-97% of Americans.
Oh, do you realize most med schools give you like $1500-2000/month to live on? Most med students without help from their parents have lived a 20-30k lifestyle, myself included.
I assumed you grew up wealthy because it makes no sense for someone that is supposedly raising a family of 5 on $30k to say that you need at least $200k for a "decent and only decent" lifestyle.
Mediocre trolling attempt, but you did get me in the first half. Low pass.
So... I was planning to just drop it because I am being misunderstood and you appear to be on too much of a high horse to hear other perspectives, but I wanted to make one more attempt to clarify my position.
First off, I agree with your initial post. It is definitely very possible to make a comfortable life with the debt. I would not be going to medical school if I didn't believe that. I also appreciate the time that you put into explaining the math. I start medical school this summer and so I am not as knowledgeable on the subject as those who have already gone through medical school and accrued that debt. The perspective I was hoping to get across, and admittedly failed to, is that of one who has had to support a family in relative poverty.
My original comment was intended to be me agreeing with your main points, but also pointing out that the system in America sucks for everyone but the Uber wealthy. We need massive reform in this country and we needed it yesterday.
Even with the debt, I dont think that many doctors realize just how well off they are in comparison to the majority of people in America.
Lastly, who hurt you? You have been incredibly harsh to anyone who disagrees with you. Surely, their experience is just as valid as your own. Its disappointing really because your original post was one of optimism and hope, but your comments have been incredibly self-righteous and hostile. Rather than engage with others perspectives, you attack them for it. Its quite toxic tbh