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Do you think that the proliferation of medical shows on TV (Scrubs, ER, House, Grey's Anatomy etc) have influenced people to go into the medical field? Has it influenced you? Do you think the shows give pre-meds an unrealistic view point of what they will be doing?

(Not that any of this matters, I was just curious as to other people's viewpoints)

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yes, the todd made me want to enter medicine. in your endo :p
 
If it does influence people to go into medicine, they will certainly realize medicine isn't like TV when they get there. Also it didn't influence me mainly because I don't watch TV that much besides sports. I don't think anyone should believe information gathered from a TV series.
 
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Well, I applied to Dartmouth, and was accepted to Dartmouth last year, because of Meredith Grey. But I decided not to matriculate at Dartmouth, because, upon reflection, I realized that Meredith is in Seattle. Of course, we don't really know where Meredith will end up once she finishes her residency. So I guess the answer to your question is yes. Oh, and I don't want to work for that House guy.
 
If it does influence people to go into medicine, they will certainly realize medicine isn't like TV when they get there.

That was along the lines of what I was thinking - and had wondered if this might be part of the dissatisfaction that seems to be prevalent among residents?
 
That was along the lines of what I was thinking - and had wondered if this might be part of the dissatisfaction that seems to be prevalent among residents?
I don't think any of the post-Grey's/House/Scrubs med school hopefuls have made it that far yet. If any residents you know of now were inspired by a T.V. show it would've been E.R. Only 5-6 years from now will you start seeing any people who were "inspired" by Grey's/House/Scrubs as residents (those who make it, anyway.)

HOWEVER, I think the huge influx of premeds is likely to have been caused by the shows. And because of that I think medical school will become increasingly competitive over the next few years. :(
 
Heres my criticisms of the shows (and yes im still an undergrad, but I have a MSIII sister and an anesthesiologist father and they harbor my sentiments)

An overarching problem I see in TV is Drs on shows doing things theyre not qualified or trained for.

Greys: Obviously the lifestyle of a surgery intern will be nothing like this. Thats the main crit. I have. Also when they cut Denny's wire, none of the 5 interns had any idea about medications, or what do here and there. And when Meredith died, in the ER you had a neurosurg, an OB/gyn and some surgery residents doing stuff that obviously ER guys would do.

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House: This show is more entertaining than Greys bc its less of a soap opera. The CSI medicine they perform (going to houses, etc) is obviously over the top and one i was watching last night had the allergist removing ovarian cysts. This show is the most blatant violator of stay in your domain. And plus every case they have is a zebra.

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Scrubs: This show gets the issues- dealing with death, dealing with attendings, the stresses, etc and obviously shows them in a humorous light. I think because they generally avoid the dramatic "clear! blood!" and stick to residency issues (and the prodding between specialties) it is the clear winner.

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I dont watch ER.
 
Heres my criticisms of the shows (and yes im still an undergrad, but I have a MSIII sister and an anesthesiologist father and they harbor my sentiments)

An overarching problem I see in TV is Drs on shows doing things theyre not qualified or trained for.

Greys: Obviously the lifestyle of a surgery intern will be nothing like this. Thats the main crit. I have. Also when they cut Denny's wire, none of the 5 interns had any idea about medications, or what do here and there. And when Meredith died, in the ER you had a neurosurg, an OB/gyn and some surgery residents doing stuff that obviously ER guys would do.

Realism 3/10 Entertainment 5/10 Chick Factor 10/10

House: This show is more entertaining than Greys bc its less of a soap opera. The CSI medicine they perform (going to houses, etc) is obviously over the top and one i was watching last night had the allergist removing ovarian cysts. This show is the most blatant violator of stay in your domain. And plus every case they have is a zebra.

Realism 4/10 Entertainment 9/10 Chick factor 7/10

Scrubs: This show gets the issues- dealing with death, dealing with attendings, the stresses, etc and obviously shows them in a humorous light. I think because they generally avoid the dramatic "clear! blood!" and stick to residency issues (and the prodding between specialties) it is the clear winner.

Realism 8/10 Entertainment 10/10 Chick factor 8/10

I dont watch ER.

You can't tell me that House is more realistic than Grey's...Granted Grey's isn't Discovery Health but I watched House put a burn victim in a tank of maggots to clean his wounds.
 
I agree with most of what was said above. Grey's is more of a soap opera than it is a medical drama (Think General Hospital with a prime-time slot and some special effects.) House is pretty interesting to watch, but some of the cases are so ridiculous. Plus listening to "Next week House faces his toughest case yet!" every week is annoying. And Scrubs is by far my favorite "medical" show.
 
You can't tell me that House is more realistic than Grey's...Granted Grey's isn't Discovery Health but I watched House put a burn victim in a tank of maggots to clean his wounds.

maggot therapy is a legit treatment used to debride dead tissue, if you don't believe it, wikipedia it up. You probably wouldn't do it in a tank though.
 
You can't tell me that House is more realistic than Grey's...Granted Grey's isn't Discovery Health but I watched House put a burn victim in a tank of maggots to clean his wounds.

That does actually happen.
 
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I personally like grey's the best, but not because it's "medical." Scrubs is just dumb and the other cast members on House are so utterly forgettable.

My husband, who's not American, always catches me watching grey's during the more scandalous moments. I think he's concerned that I will leave him for an attending. :laugh:
 
That does actually happen.
Yeah, I'm sure. Next you'll be telling us that we treat people by putting them in large tanks of oxygen and that we can remove gallbladders using cameras and incisions no larger than 0.5".

I've heard it all before; you can't fool me.
 
Well, I applied to Dartmouth, and was accepted to Dartmouth last year, because of Meredith Grey. But I decided not to matriculate at Dartmouth, because, upon reflection, I realized that Meredith is in Seattle. Of course, we don't really know where Meredith will end up once she finishes her residency. So I guess the answer to your question is yes. Oh, and I don't want to work for that House guy.

Yea, I keep thinking to myself, "what about dartmouth?" i have this weird desire to go there and I know nothing about the school except that it has REALLY crappy website (which might be why I know nothing about it).

it's totally because of the constant flashing of that dartmouth shirt in the show.
 
"They" say that law school apps went up during "LA Law" heyday.

Probably lots of bitter attorneys now.:D

Yeah, but there's like 8 law and orders... that has to count for something.

Yeah, I'm sure. Next you'll be telling us that we treat people by putting them in large tanks of oxygen and that we can remove gallbladders using cameras and incisions no larger than 0.5".

I've heard it all before; you can't fool me.

I don't know what resources you guys have but I can't post the full text of the article, but feel free to look this baby up:

Summers, James Bradley; Kaminski, Joseph. "Maggot debridement therapy (MDT) for burn wounds." Burns : journal of the International Society for Burn Injuries, v. 29 issue 5, 2003, p. 501-502.
 
I'm legally changing my name to Christian Troy after I get the Dr. in front of my name. Hahaha just kiddin. However, I do tend to love the medical shows; Scrubs, Nip/Tuck, Dr. 90210 etc. :thumbup:
 
Mystery Diagnosis baby! House is good too, although there's only so long I can take his cynicism. Never saw grey's, scrubs is pretty accurate from what I've heard, used to watch ER years ago, but now it's so horrible. Its hard to say whether these shows influence people to go into medicine, or whether those who watch such programs are already pretty interested in the field. There was this PBS program that aired back in 2001 called "Survivor MD". It documented the lives of Harvard med students from the mid 80's up until the present. It was an eye-opener and I recommend anyone here on SDN take a look at it http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/doctors/ This along with an anatomy and Phys. class I was taking at the time in HS influenced me to go into medicine. although, I'll have to say it wasn't until I started volunteering at a Hospital and clinic that I really knew this was what I was meant to do with my life. Experience trumps entertainment every time.
 
House didn't influence me to be a doctor - just clarified the type of doctor i want to be . . .
 
Personally more than anything I'm addicted to the "real-life" medical shows on Discovery Health like "Code Blue"
 
I personally like grey's the best, but not because it's "medical." Scrubs is just dumb and the other cast members on House are so utterly forgettable.

My husband, who's not American, always catches me watching grey's during the more scandalous moments. I think he's concerned that I will leave him for an attending. :laugh:

Scrubs gets it right. The personality types, the issues, frustrations, etc., etc.

And Jolie, you now must become a podiatrist because of the section in bold. Adcoms care about your attitude towards Scrubs.

;)
 
Scrubs is my favorite show of all time, but only seasons 1-4. I can see how someone would classify the show as "dumb" if they've only seen the newer episodes because they don't have the heart that the earliest ones did. At first, they were all newbies that made both personal and professional mistakes (with hilarious consequences) that they learned from. Now they're all mid 30s and attendings so they can't really make the same professional mistakes they used to. Now it seems like it's all about their personal issues.
 
"They" say that law school apps went up during "LA Law" heyday.

Probably lots of bitter attorneys now.:D

This was subject of a lot of articles and is likely fact. So it doesn't seem hard to buy that the same thing has or could happen in medicine. Which is why schools are now so cautious in asking "why medicine?" at every opportunity and requiring folks to get clinical experience before applying.
 
our musculoskeletal exam lecturer pointed out that House limps the wrong way (and holds the cane with the wrong hand) considering which leg is injured.
 
SCRUBS rules my life. I want to be just like Dr. COX!!!!!!!
Mystery ER!!! LOVE IT
 
There have been medical shows and doctor characters on TV forever.

Ben Casey
Dr. Kildare
Medical Center
Julia (her boss was an occupational medicine specialist, she was the nurse)
Marcus Welby, MD
The Donna Reed Show (husband was a doc, had an office in their home)
M*A*S*H
St. Elsewhere
Quincy, ME
Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman
Doogy Howser
Northern Exposure (original premise was a NYer paying back med school loans by serving in rural Alaska)

I'm sure ya'll can think of some others. Suffice to say that every generation from the 1960s onward have seen TV-doctors.
 
i've watched some of grey's. it's all right, i mostly like it for the drama. for some reason, when i think of watching scrubs, i despise it. then i catch an episode (last year's housemate watched it constantly), and i love it. ER's okay, but sometimes I feel a little embaressed watchign it. I don't watch House because the actor reminds me of this guy i knew a while back who gave me the creeps.. :(
 
I just bought a book about maggot therapy. It was $35 even though its really short, but the pictures are awesome.

There is a doctor who reviews the House TV show and analyzes each episode for how realistic the medicine is. Apparently it is good overall, with the only reoccurring criticisms being that a) all the characters do all of the work (ie, labs, surgery, etc) and b) As another poster commented earlier; all of the cases are zebras.

You can find the link to the reviews here:

http://www.politedissent.com/house_pd.html
 
Nothing pissed me off more during my freashmen year then being in the library the night of a Grey's Anotomy episode. I studied near my classmates during days before the exams, and everything was going great: people were helping each other, questions were beign answered, etc, etc. But then suddenly books began to slam all around me as honestly 50 or so of the 80 people that were there began packing up to leave. "Greys is on tonight! OMG!!" was echoed across the study room.
Honestly now, it felt like high school. You would think people in college taking classes like Genetics and Molecular Bio would know that life isn't like Grey's. Don't ever mention that to one of the fans though. If you do, be prepared to be attacked by girls on the verge of crying saying things like "parts of it are true" and "You're just bitter because your not part of it" Honestly, grow up people.

At least House and Scrubs don't try to be realistic, they just set out to make people laugh.
 
Nothing pissed me off more during my freashmen year then being in the library the night of a Grey's Anotomy episode. I studied near my classmates during days before the exams, and everything was going great: people were helping each other, questions were beign answered, etc, etc. But then suddenly books began to slam all around me as honestly 50 or so of the 80 people that were there began packing up to leave. "Greys is on tonight! OMG!!" was echoed across the study room.

This would be why god invented DVRs :laugh:
 
I know that my school started a minor in forensic science due to the increased demand for it, presumably from the success of CSI: Boise, Hoboken, and Shreveport. (according to the professor who is in charge of the program)

As for the maggots, we just put some on a patient yesterday. No where near as dramatic as on House, considering we cage them into the wound with chiffon fabric and leave them be for 2-3 days. No tanks here.

I grew up watching M*A*S*H and Quincy re-runs. I now own every eason of MASH on DVD, too.
 
i watch the real shows on discovery health..like code blue explains and shows what doctors really do..also untold stories of er, mystery diagnosis..n u learn a lot..but school just started n it completely cut my time out from watching tv..there all recorded though..also niptuck lol in oct..
 
House = Favorite:thumbup:
Scrubs = also Favorite but less Favorite:)
Grey's = Not Favorite
Medical School = Short post no TV:(
 
Grey's is the worst show ever.

Nip/Tuck S: 1-3 were fantastic, 4 meh/bleh

Scrubs is good.

House is good.

Trauma: Life in the ER is awesome, although it is a documentary series.
 
I know that my school started a minor in forensic science due to the increased demand for it, presumably from the success of CSI: Boise, Hoboken, and Shreveport. (according to the professor who is in charge of the program)

As for the maggots, we just put some on a patient yesterday. No where near as dramatic as on House, considering we cage them into the wound with chiffon fabric and leave them be for 2-3 days. No tanks here.

I grew up watching M*A*S*H and Quincy re-runs. I now own every eason of MASH on DVD, too.

M*A*S*H is great.
 
So you want to be an internist, neurosurgeon, radiologist, gastroenterologist, emergency physician, and every other specialty combined?

:laugh:

By your powers combined, I am Captain Doctor!

GOOOO DOCTOR!
 
I personally like grey's the best, but not because it's "medical." Scrubs is just dumb and the other cast members on House are so utterly forgettable.

My husband, who's not American, always catches me watching grey's during the more scandalous moments. I think he's concerned that I will leave him for an attending. :laugh:

Oh man...you helped me on my essay and everything, but still, after that, i don't know if we can be friends...:p

I think I've seen the first 5 seasons of scrubs like...three-four times through already.
 
Oh man...you helped me on my essay and everything, but still, after that, i don't know if we can be friends...:p

I think I've seen the first 5 seasons of scrubs like...three-four times through already.
Kill her!!!!
She has displeased the Scrubs god! KILL HER!
Lol. Ive also watched scrubs several times over.
 
You guys are all Scrubs newbies!

I own seasons 1-5 on DVD and 6 on my computer and have watched every episode a minimum of 4-5 times.

My goal is to one day be able to recite every line from every episode, word-for-word. It'll be awesome. :thumbup::thumbup:
 
There have been medical shows and doctor characters on TV forever.

Ben Casey
Dr. Kildare
Medical Center
Julia (her boss was an occupational medicine specialist, she was the nurse)
Marcus Welby, MD
The Donna Reed Show (husband was a doc, had an office in their home)
M*A*S*H
St. Elsewhere
Quincy, ME
Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman
Doogy Howser
Northern Exposure (original premise was a NYer paying back med school loans by serving in rural Alaska)

I'm sure ya'll can think of some others. Suffice to say that every generation from the 1960s onward have seen TV-doctors.

Hey Lizzy... Don't forget:

The Flying Doctors

:laugh:
 
Heres my criticisms of the shows (and yes im still an undergrad, but I have a MSIII sister and an anesthesiologist father and they harbor my sentiments)

An overarching problem I see in TV is Drs on shows doing things theyre not qualified or trained for.

Greys: Obviously the lifestyle of a surgery intern will be nothing like this. Thats the main crit. I have. Also when they cut Denny's wire, none of the 5 interns had any idea about medications, or what do here and there. And when Meredith died, in the ER you had a neurosurg, an OB/gyn and some surgery residents doing stuff that obviously ER guys would do.

Realism 3/10 Entertainment 5/10 Chick Factor 10/10

House: This show is more entertaining than Greys bc its less of a soap opera. The CSI medicine they perform (going to houses, etc) is obviously over the top and one i was watching last night had the allergist removing ovarian cysts. This show is the most blatant violator of stay in your domain. And plus every case they have is a zebra.

Realism 4/10 Entertainment 9/10 Chick factor 7/10

Scrubs: This show gets the issues- dealing with death, dealing with attendings, the stresses, etc and obviously shows them in a humorous light. I think because they generally avoid the dramatic "clear! blood!" and stick to residency issues (and the prodding between specialties) it is the clear winner.

Realism 8/10 Entertainment 10/10 Chick factor 8/10

I dont watch ER.

I agree with you to a certain extent, however you have to rate the shows on how "medically" relevant they are..

-Grey's anatomy- Medically relevant many times however the interns have committed several incidents in which if real life interns were to commit they would loose their jobs!

The thing with Denny, if that would've been in real life I guarantee the hospital would have taken some legal precautions that would have left the interns liable for his death and on top of this they would have lost their jobs and possibly making it next to impossible to get another residency position.
Thus making Grey's anatomy completely unrealistic in the liability aspects of medicine.

-House- Although many times they completely exaggerate and blow minor things out of proportion they do reflect a certain medical relevancy that's "serious" to a certain extent.

I mean what is up with a Neurologist (Not a Neuro-Surgeon) performing Nero-Surgery??? Thats not possible, yet on House it happens.

How do all of Houses subordinates enable themselves with the capability of committing anything having to do with surgery if none have ever completed a day of surgical residency? It's simply not possible.

House is more of an entertainment show trying to embrace the seriousness of medicine through the use of unorthodox methods.

However there are times that medical relevancy on House rates an 8/10, but many times they take something as simple as a cold or a sneeze and exaggerate it by taking it to the next level..

For example, the symptoms of a cold and nothing more would be completely taken and blown out of proportion and converted into the possibility that these are not only symptoms of a cold but of a "deadly" disease/virus...

I still like house though...:cool:
 
Mildy related: The trauma center game for the Wii is just as dramatic as these shows. I mean, I was "doing" an operation when all of a sudden a glass shard erupts out of the patient's body like Godzilla rampaging some town. Not to forget the healing power you acquire. And how about that "Let's begin the surgery!" routine where he throws out his arm. (Its all still entertaining, haha).
 
House is probably one of the most intelligent shows I've seen in a while! The "Houseisms" are hilarious, and the characters are really interesting. Granted this show exaggerates and doesn't represent reality, it's just really entertaining.. I mean IT IS FICTIONAL. I don't think the purpose of the show was to represent what medicine is all about. The show presents some medical mysteries with a dose of fun twists and mishaps. Usually it does get dramatic and shows a lot of ironies and problems in our human condition. Honestly, they do a good job integrating all of these elements.

I used to watch Scrubs a lot, and I thought it was so hilarious. I've started to lose interest because the freshness of the jokes aren't very fresh anymore.. Not only is it not novel, but it just gets childish after awhile..

I've never watched a full episode of Grey's Anatomy. It just seems like another soap opera taking place in a hospital setting..

Dr 90210 and Nip/Tuck seems like they are just crude, superficial shows...trash..

Who's with me??
 
House is probably one of the most intelligent shows I've seen in a while! The "Houseisms" are hilarious, and the characters are really interesting. Granted this show exaggerates and doesn't represent reality, it's just really entertaining.. I mean IT IS FICTIONAL. I don't think the purpose of the show was to represent what medicine is all about. The show presents some medical mysteries with a dose of fun twists and mishaps. Usually it does get dramatic and shows a lot of ironies and problems in our human condition. Honestly, they do a good job integrating all of these elements.

I used to watch Scrubs a lot, and I thought it was so hilarious. I've started to lose interest because the freshness of the jokes aren't very fresh anymore.. Not only is it not novel, but it just gets childish after awhile..

I've never watched a full episode of Grey's Anatomy. It just seems like another soap opera taking place in a hospital setting..

Dr 90210 and Nip/Tuck seems like they are just crude, superficial shows...trash..

Who's with me??

I love House. The beginning of season 3 was kind of bad, they went way over the top with his cynicism and he just wasn't likable anymore, but they managed to fix that half-way through. Which is good, because I'd stopped watching by then...I started watching again by the end of the season. Like you said, it's FICTIONAL, so I don't expect everything on a tv show to be accurate (like how all the doctors do all the procedures and lab work, that always makes me laugh).

Funnily enough, my small college mentor at my medical school says she likes House because she likes how they solve cases. She says it's not accurate all the time, but the thought process and the differential diagnoses they work through are interesting, and not so unlike what any internist should do.

Scrubs was funny during the first season, maybe the second one. The new seasons are just very lame, the jokes aren't good anymore, and the characters all seem flat and unfunny.

As far as the others, hate watching Dr 90210 because I can't stand people who would put themselves through a major surgery just because they're unhappy with their boob size.

I also used to watch Grey's, but it's gotten bad (not sure it was ever good to begin with). The first season was funny because the characters were more fresh, Dr. Bailey, Cristina, etc, were hilarious. Now it's just too stupid.




Wow...now I realize how much free time I had in college, seeing how many shows I used to watch. :(
 
I can't believe no one's mentioned Trauma: Life in the ER. If any medical show has inspired me to go into medicine it's that one. Even though I know Grey's is unrealistic, I secretly hope that that's what being a doctor is like :hardy:
 
So you want to be an internist, neurosurgeon, radiologist, gastroenterologist, emergency physician, and every other specialty combined?

:laugh:

Ha! i meant more like brilliant and smartassed and addicted to pills

... wait what?
 
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