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Either tie should work. I prefer the pindot - it's what I wore.
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I have this
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What do yall think of the suit combination?
It is a double Windsor.
Eww, are you a former pro NFL player and/or trying to get a job at ESPN? four in hand or half windsor if you must. never go full windsor
I prefer the windsors over the 4-in-hand because of its symmetry.
I prefer the windsors over the 4-in-hand because of its symmetry.
you're wearing brown shoes on a charcoal suit?
whats wrong with the knot?
just keep the knot skinnier. I'd avoid the full windsor altogether. Every douche-wannabe, horribly styled athlete, and Donald Trump wears a full windsor. James Bond also distrusts anybody who wears a windsor knot because it shows too much vanity.
exhibit A:
http://onemansstyle.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/special02.jpg
exhibit B:
http://tokyothinktank.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/hoge.jpg
oh god exhibit C:
http://yepyep.gibbs12.com/wp-conten...vin-21st-annual-sports-spectacular-bfjtvs.jpg
brown and charcoal is fine, just don't wear brown and black
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Yeah, I exclusively rock the four-in-hand. Unless it's something casual, then sometimes I mix it up with the Eldredge or Trinity knots. (Sorry for the giant pics)

Never been a fan of novelty knots. Also the brown contrast collar in the second pic.. lolwut
If you want symmetry, you could also go with a Pratt knot or half-Windsor. Full Windsors aren't usually the way to go unless you have a spread collar to accommodate the size of the knot.
IMO, a well-done four in hand with a nice dimple can be as effective (but I recognize your preference for symmetry). The Windsor is just too much.
I'd never wear one for anything serious, but I think it's nice to try something new every once in a while. And lolwut is the perfect caption for that collar.
thank for all the feedback guys.
I rushed the tie because I was getting ready to buy the suit (I was in the changing room)
It is a double Windsor.
Im going to go to Nordstroms to pick out a white shirt and two ties. If yall want to browse their online tie list and let me know of a decent tie, I would appreciate it.
http://shop.nordstrom.com/c/mens-ties?dept=8000001&origin=topnav
.. go with a half windsor.Suggestions on suit/shirt/tie colours for an Asian guy? When I say Asian, think Chow Yun-Fat in terms of hair and complexion. I...doubt I'm going to be able to wear my standard combination of black fitted suit, black with white pinstripes French cuffed shirt, and blood-red tie/pocket square/cufflinks to a medical interview.
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Yeah, I exclusively rock the four-in-hand. Unless it's something casual, then sometimes I mix it up with the Eldredge or Trinity knots. (Sorry for the giant pics)
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If I had the pick of your schools, I wouldve taken Vandy or Pritzker 😳
UCLA gave you a full ride or something?
Sorry but these are horrible for medical school interviews. Don't do this.

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You should have made your name "Chillbro Baggins"
Full Windsor, all the time. Classic, elegant, balanced.👍
Pull it tight and you'll get the symmetry without the bulk. All of the Windsor knots in those photos were loosely tied. Try it and you'll see you can cut the bulk dramatically by tying it correctly.(tight)
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The four in hand knot is for the high school varsity team with daddy's borrowed tie.
ugh, seriously?
I'm 6'2" and wear a 46 or 48L jacket. I think I can handle the bulk of a properly tied Windsor knot. Some scrawny pencil neck kid may not be able to pull it off. YMMV, but I stand behind the high school varsity comment.
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That's what a properly tied Windsor knot can look like, as opposed to the sloppy giant wedge pics above.
The four in hand knot is for the high school varsity team with daddy's borrowed tie.
I pull it tight with each step, and again working the dimple. I wouldn't say it's super tight. It pulls right apart when I take it off.
I pull it tight with each step, and again working the dimple. I wouldn't say it's super tight. It pulls right apart when I take it off.
I agree, I only tie a full windsor, and it isn't bulky at all. I am also over 6' so maybe it works better for taller people? I need my tie to be long so I only use the most thin part of the tie. Just start with the narrow end being short and pull tight at each step.
Need some opinions here on jewelry etiquette:
I usually wear my great-grandfather's gold ring - it has one flat side, and I don't think it is too flashy, but do you think it may come across as too gaudy?
As for watches - I have two nicer watches and an everyday watch. One of the nicer ones is not any thing too expensive - gold face that you can see the movement through, and a brown leather band. The other watch is a cartier, but does not come across as very showy - just silver santos de cartier with gold accent. Here is my dilemma - I feel that the first watch may be too showy, but the cartier may come across that I come from too privileged of a background. Should I go with my steel, everyday watch, or stick with one of my dressier ones?
Any thoughts would be appreciated. I provided pictures to the Cartier and the everyday watch...the third I could not find online.
http://www.cartier.us/collections/t...tos-de-cartier-galbee-watch-extra-large-model
http://www.lefthandedwatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Victorinox-Professional-DIve-Master.jpg
Since when is that Cartier not flashy? Strike that one.
The stainless one is a sports watch - not your best bet.
Take a photo of the gold one and post it --
No one says you have to wear a watch. Cell phones tell time... Better no watch than one that works against your interests.
Yea okay that is kind of what I was thinking for the watches. I will probably end up going no watch then, but tell me what you think of the third
I just works better for bigger people, which is also why you see all those NFL players wearing it. If you are bigger, your shirt, collar, and lapels will all be a little bigger, so you need a more substantial tie width and knot
Hi guys, I was wondering if a charcoal-ish checkered (subtle) sports coat is too informal for interviews? I was thinking of wearing a white shirt, dark, solid tie, and black pants/shoes.
If it is then I guess I need to go buy a new suit..
If you don't wear a suit you will be one of the few who isn't wearing one. And it wouldn't be standing out in a good way, either. Everyone here is going to tell you to invest in a suit unless there's absolutely no way you can afford it.
For those thinking of purchasing online. Although I've never purchased one I wasn't impressed with indochino. They don't look good at all imo and I've heard they're hit or miss. And I can recall my less informed/less stylish days when I purchased my first suit from Men's Warehouse. It was buy 1 get 1, and 1 of the suits they absolutely butchered the tailoring. Waste of time and money for a bad suit.
If I'm going to take a risk on a suit nowadays, I buy my suits on ebay (Brooks Brothers Fitzgerald mostly). I know exactly how it fits me (or I can go to the store and find out off the rack) good quality suit, and it's incredibly comfortable. Plus I know my measurements so when people make a posting similar to my measurements I can be confident that it will fit well (biggest worry is the shoulders). There are tons of other quality brands on there as well but I prefer BB.
BB Fitzgerald usually runs about $1000 or $600 if there's a sale. I got mine used for $60 and made some slight alterations for $30 more. You might think used is a huge turnoff but the suit is in perfect condition, cleaned and pressed, looks brand new, and was insanely cheap. Just make sure when you browse postings that the seller is reputable. Everyone I've bought from has had crystal clear information about the suits plus plenty of pictures to determine quality. And if you feel you were misled or find a problem you can return it.
A watch is fine but all that other stuff is overkill imo. I like to keep it simple but high quality.
I can't remember the last time I had a clean shave plus clean shaven reminds me of a politician.
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Is this grey too light???
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