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So, who knows of any med schools that offer purely merit based scholarships? I know of:

Emory
Wash U
U Penn

Are there any more that I'm unaware of? Also, do you usually find out about this with an acceptance letter or later on in the process?
 
Pitt

and to answer your second question, for a lot of these (case and pitt as far as I know) you need to be "invited" to apply.
 
Njms
 
I think scholarship procedure just varies by school...some schools invite you to apply separately, others can award it to you without warning after you've been accepted.

To consolidate:
Emory - no separate app; 12 finalists interview for 7 scholarships
UPenn - no separate app
WashU - ?
Case - separate
Mayo - ?
NJMS - ?
Pitt - separate
Duke - no separate app
Vanderbilt - no separate app (good thing after the 3 pg autobiography!)
UMich - no separate app
 
I think scholarship procedure just varies by school...some schools invite you to apply separately, others can award it to you without warning after you've been accepted.

To consolidate:
Emory - no separate app; 12 finalists interview for 7 scholarships
UPenn - no separate app
WashU - 16 full tuition scholarships, invitation for application post acceptance, 1 page essay.
Case - separate
Mayo - ?
NJMS - ?
Pitt - separate
Duke - no separate app
Vanderbilt - no separate app (good thing after the 3 pg autobiography!)
UMich - no separate app
 
To consolidate:
Emory - no separate app; 12 finalists interview for 7 scholarships
UPenn - no separate app
WashU - 16 full tuition scholarships, invitation for application post acceptance, 1 page essay.
Case - separate
Mayo - ?
NJMS - no separate app...10 full rides and i think there are a few partial.
Pitt - separate
Duke - no separate app
Vanderbilt - no separate app (good thing after the 3 pg autobiography!)
UMich - no separate app
 
Emory - no separate app; 12 finalists interview for 7 scholarships
UPenn - no separate app
WashU - 16 full tuition scholarships, invitation for application post acceptance, 1 page essay.
Case - separate
Mayo - ?
NJMS - no sperate app...10 full rides and i think there are a few partial.
Pitt - separate
Duke - no separate app
Vanderbilt - no separate app (good thing after the 3 pg autobiography!)
UMich - no separate app
Tulane - ?
 
Emory - no separate app; 12 finalists interview for 7 scholarships
UPenn - no separate app
WashU - 16 full tuition scholarships, invitation for application post acceptance, 1 page essay.
Case - separate
Mayo - no separte
NJMS - no sperate app...10 full rides and i think there are a few partial.
Pitt - separate
Duke - no separate app
Vanderbilt - no separate app (good thing after the 3 pg autobiography!)
UMich - no separate app
Tulane - ?
 
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Wash U invites all female acceptees to apply for their Olin Fellowships for Women, but that includes all the females in all of their graduate schools, not just the med school. They also have the invitation-only merit scholarship described in the other posts.

Does anyone know if it's true that Emory does its invitations for the merit scholarship interview this month? I think I heard January was when you'd hear...?
 
are people who get these like 45T, 4.0's from Harvard or someone with decent stats (30s, 3.5+, etc) with a great interview/statement/etc?
(btw, I think I'm answering my own question via common sense...but it's good to hope, right?)
 
NeverGettingIn said:
are people who get these like 45T, 4.0's from Harvard or someone with decent stats (30s, 3.5+, etc) with a great interview/statement/etc?
(btw, I think I'm answering my own question via common sense...but it's good to hope, right?)
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no, just regular people with good extracurriculars.
 
Emory - no separate app; 12 finalists interview for 7 scholarships
UPenn - no separate app

WashU - 16 full tuition scholarships, invitation for application post acceptance, 1 page essay.

Case - separate
Mayo - no separte
NJMS - no sperate app...10 full rides and i think there are a few partial.
Pitt - separate
Duke - no separate app
Vanderbilt - no separate app (good thing after the 3 pg autobiography!)
UMich - no separate app
Tulane - ?
U Miami - simple separate app, most out-of-staters received last yr
 
NeverGettingIn said:
are people who get these like 45T, 4.0's from Harvard or someone with decent stats (30s, 3.5+, etc) with a great interview/statement/etc?
(btw, I think I'm answering my own question via common sense...but it's good to hope, right?)
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No, I think a 44S should be sufficient.
 
I think Mayo gives scholarships to everyone. some get 1/2 tuition.. and others get full.
 
Emory - no separate app; 12 finalists interview for 7 scholarships
UPenn - no separate app
WashU - 16 full tuition scholarships, invitation for application post acceptance, 1 page essay.
Case - separate
Mayo - no separte
NJMS - no sperate app...10 full rides and i think there are a few partial.
Pitt - separate
Duke - no separate app
Vanderbilt - no separate app (good thing after the 3 pg autobiography!)
UMich - no separate app
Tulane - given w/ acceptance
U Miami - simple separate app, most out-of-staters received last yr
 
Crazy Eyes--By whom are you nominated for the Baylor scholarship?? Not that I have a prayer, but what the heck🙂

Oh, and to whoever asked before about how much stats matter: I think Erica Black told us that the Woodruff scholarships are chosen almost exclusively on character and commitment to service, etc. rather than scores. I could be wrong, but that's what I remember her saying...
 
can somebody explain to me why case western is listed as 'separate' in terms of applying for merit scholarships? i was under the impression that they considered everyone who submitted their FAFSA.

😕
 
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CalicoKat said:
Crazy Eyes--By whom are you nominated for the Baylor scholarship?? Not that I have a prayer, but what the heck🙂

Oh, and to whoever asked before about how much stats matter: I think Erica Black told us that the Woodruff scholarships are chosen almost exclusively on character and commitment to service, etc. rather than scores. I could be wrong, but that's what I remember her saying...
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Well schools like Baylor, Emory and other excellent institutions that are bubbling beneath the massive weight of the top 10 use scholarships to lure excellent students from considering their schools. And so, while character and other immeasurable factors are considered in these scholarships, lurking in the backdrop are the more quantifiable things like number of publications, MCAT and grades that distinguish applicants and make them attractive to the top 10 schools. Do not forget that the likelihood of a top candidate getting accepted to the top schools is not subject to classical statistics but is in fact Bayesian. That is to say a candidate who gets into a WashU will likely get into the other schools in that class. This reasoning isn't lost on the schools that offer full rides. Again, my opinion.
 
superdevil said:
can somebody explain to me why case western is listed as 'separate' in terms of applying for merit scholarships? i was under the impression that they considered everyone who submitted their FAFSA.

😕
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sd, my bf got this scholarship 5 yrs ago. they made him turn in some super short essay so there is a separate scholarship. he said that it was really easy and wrote it the afternoon it was due and then faxed it in.
 
wxl31 said:
sd, my bf got this scholarship 5 yrs ago. they made him turn in some super short essay so there is a separate scholarship. he said that it was really easy and it wrote the afternoon it was due and then faxed it in.
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sweeeet! 😀

by the way, was it one of the "Case Dean's Scholarships" (which are $30,000-full tuition per year), or one of the more specific scholarships like the Alumni or Amici Scholarships? i can't blame you for not knowing this, but i'm just curious.

thanks,
sd
 
yeah, it was a dean's scholarship. he's now at stanford doing his residency. sorry, just had to brag a little bit about him. 😀

superdevil said:
sweeeet! 😀

by the way, was it one of the "Case Dean's Scholarships" (which are $30,000-full tuition per year), or one of the more specific scholarships like the Alumni or Amici Scholarships? i can't blame you for not knowing this, but i'm just curious.

thanks,
sd
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GuyLaroche said:
Well schools like Baylor, Emory and other excellent institutions that are bubbling beneath the massive weight of the top 10 use scholarships to lure excellent students from considering their schools. And so, while character and other immeasurable factors are considered in these scholarships, lurking in the backdrop are the more quantifiable things like number of publications, MCAT and grades that distinguish applicants and make them attractive to the top 10 schools. Do not forget that the likelihood of a top candidate getting accepted to the top schools is not subject to classical statistics but is in fact Bayesian. That is to say a candidate who gets into a WashU will likely get into the other schools in that class. This reasoning isn't lost on the schools that offer full rides. Again, my opinion.
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You make an interesting point. By "other schools of that class", do you mean "numbers ******" or just top 5's? I'm guessing you mean the former, because plenty get into a place like WashU but not lower ranked schools like Yale and Cornell, who look more at "soft" factors.
 
wxl31 said:
yeah, it was a dean's scholarship. he's now at stanford doing his residency. sorry, just had to brag a little bit about him. 😀
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damn! don't worry, that's some well-deserved bragging! :laugh:

(and thanks again, btw). 😉
 
wxl31 said:
yeah, it was a dean's scholarship. he's now at stanford doing his residency. sorry, just had to brag a little bit about him. 😀
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So he did take up the offer? I hope so... I know someone who turned it down for a higher ranked school (which is something I would never do, but to each his own, I suppose).
 
leechy said:
You make an interesting point. By "other schools of that class", do you mean "numbers ******" or just top 5's? I'm guessing you mean the former, because plenty get into a place like WashU but not lower ranked schools like Yale and Cornell, who look more at "soft" factors.
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Hmmn, hard to answer. In my judgment, I find that all the top 20 schools are to an extent number ******. I was speaking unofficially with a faculty member in an unnamed medical school (clue: one of the schools you suggested), who is also on the admissions committee. Out of his mouth fell the words: "and what is your MCAT score?" Yeah, there will always be the applicants who have very distinguished attributes that are not numbers-based, but a large portion of the applicant pool will be viewed through the harsh prism of numbers, numbers, numbers.
 
crazy eyes said:
Upon what are you basing these remarks?
CE
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Well not one to shy away from a vigorous debate, I'll attempt to address some of the concerns you've raised. I was at Yale recently, and one of the interviewers spoke to me in confidence about recruitment of top candidates. I believe his words were: "Harvard does very well, but the rest of us do about the same." He was speaking to the fact that many of the schools in the top 10 have a hard time securing the matriculations of the students they judge to be the top candidates.

Regarding your membership on - which is it, Baylor's - admissions committee, and how you've never heard it mentioned that students are offered scholarships so they do not go elsewhere.... Well, do such things need to be explicitly stated? When I received a call from a school recently to offer me one of these merit scholarships, the dean said quite clearly: "I hope you realize that this means that we want you to really come to our school."

My argument is largely anecdotal, but that hardly makes it false. I did try to qualify my argument by saying it is my opinion. My opinions do not matter to a similar extent as anyone's opinion in these forums. These are largely hear-says or evidence of the personal. I'm sorry my posting appears to have offended you that much. I stand, however, by all of my posts.

I wish you lots of luck as well.
 
I'm sure this isn't the case for all of Case's scholarships, but I know that when my roommate got her acceptance there, included with her letter was another page telling her that she was one of 60 students who was chosen to vie for one of the 16 Amici, Alumni, Dean's or something called the Satcher-Pamies (but don't quote me on that name🙂) scholarships. She said they didn't send an application, but that they send them separately in Feb or March or somewhere thereabouts.

Thanks for your help on the Baylor system Crazy Eyes🙂
 
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yes, he did take it. case is an excellent school. i had to do some sweet talking to get him to rank stanford's residency program over case's. sure glad i did!

leechy said:
So he did take up the offer? I hope so... I know someone who turned it down for a higher ranked school (which is something I would never do, but to each his own, I suppose).
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Is Duke's merit scholarship a full ride?
 
does uchicago have a merit scholarship? there tuition is outrageous, but i absoutely loved the school. however, there is probably no way i can choose it over baylor, which is about 4 times cheaper.
 
VeggieGal said:
does uchicago have a merit scholarship? there tuition is outrageous, but i absoutely loved the school. however, there is probably no way i can choose it over baylor, which is about 4 times cheaper.
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Uchicago, GuyLaroche, rejected. Stung.
 
Those Baylor folks sure have pride, don't diss 'em.

Anyhow, thought I'd just mention that in addition to advertised scholarships, every med school dean has a surprisingly large discretionary fund of money thats available to lure applicants. Even if you're the last guy accepted off the wait list, if you complain enough about money they'll cough some up. It may not be a ton, but you may get more than you expect. So even if they didn't offer you any dough, just start complaining to them about "tuition is so high and i just got this offer from my state school," and I bet you'll get something out of it. Just goes to show you how those tuition hikes are such a scam.
 
i honestly didn't mean to come off as though i was dissing baylor. i actually have tons of friends who go there, but i just liked chicago's program better. either way, i know that i am lucky to go to anyone of those schools.
 
crazy eyes said:
Do we try to lure students? Not any more than Wash U (which to my knowledge offers more money than does Baylor) or any other top 10 school. In fact, it is my opinion (as someone who was accepted to multiple top 10 schools), that the top 10 schools offer more scholarship/financial incentives than those not in the top 10.
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Not to stoke the flames of controversy - I think Baylor is a fantastic school, and quite likely offers a better quality of education than so-called "Ivy Leagues", but there is a definite geographic pattern to the schools that offer merit scholarships. I can't help but feel that part of the reason these schools offer merit scholarships is to get candidates who would otherwise go to northeast or california schools. It wouldn't be uncommon for a person who got into WashU and Cornell, for example, to pick the latter (ostensibly "lower ranked"), for the glamor of the location, or just to stay in the area where they went to college.

Also, top tens can be generous, but their aid (other than WashU, UMich) is purely need-based.

To answer someone else's question, I believe there is a Chicago school that offers merit scholarships... I'm not sure if it's Northwestern or UChicago, though (or another).
 
leechy said:
To answer someone else's question, I believe there is a Chicago school that offers merit scholarships... I'm not sure if it's Northwestern or UChicago, though (or another).
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Not likely to be Northwestern. Northwestern is ALL about loans!
 
I would like to add that UVA also offers merit scholarships.
 
UT Memphis offers 5 scholarship at $20K each. This covers tuition (~$18K) plus some.

I also had a half ride scholarship at DMU. About a $15K scholarship but required a minimum GPA, etc...
 
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When considering a candidate for a need-based scholarship, if the student is married do they still report their parents' income? And if the student has a spouse currently in med school, is that taken into consideration? The debt issue is a big one for me -- I'd like to minimize it as much as possible but I'm not going to let it stop me if I can't. And although I have okay stats, I don't think they're in the range of merit scholarships!
 
GuyLaroche said:
Not likely to be Northwestern. Northwestern is ALL about loans!
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Actually, I believe Northwestern did say something about giving merit-based scholarships, but they didn't go into much detail...
 
tigress said:
When considering a candidate for a need-based scholarship, if the student is married do they still report their parents' income? And if the student has a spouse currently in med school, is that taken into consideration? The debt issue is a big one for me -- I'd like to minimize it as much as possible but I'm not going to let it stop me if I can't. And although I have okay stats, I don't think they're in the range of merit scholarships!
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For need-based aid, I'm pretty sure they almost always consider parental income, even if you're married, age 40, with three kids, etc. It's kind of unfortunate for those of us who can't really expect parents to cover the bills, even if they are theoretically able, but I understand that schools need to differentiate on some basis when allocating funds.
 
tigress said:
When considering a candidate for a need-based scholarship, if the student is married do they still report their parents' income? And if the student has a spouse currently in med school, is that taken into consideration? The debt issue is a big one for me -- I'd like to minimize it as much as possible but I'm not going to let it stop me if I can't. And although I have okay stats, I don't think they're in the range of merit scholarships!
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Yes, you have to report your parents' income. A spouse currently in med school would be taken into account.
 
Vanderbilt also offers some merit, full-ride scholarships, and the scholarships address different criteria (e.g. leadership, academic, service, etc). There is no separate application, at least it wasn't the case for the one that I got.
 
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